The "thugs" from the other games kinda sounded like poor guys from Gotham trying to get by and getting into the wrong line of work to do it. The thugs in Arkham Asylum sounded like genuinely messed up people.
@@tadeocaputo2036 it was the only convenient place they could go since blackgate got burned down, but this group of goons definitely belong in an asylum.
@@thatboifreedom well we are talking about something that is a characteristic to a person, like it's normal for Mary to eat strawberries, now while it isn't normal to kill , for joker is like a daily basis, it's normal FOR Joker to kill,also I meant to joke with the commentor
I remember hearing this as a kid and being really disturbed lol. Made me feel like Joker and his goons were some seriously messed up dudes and not just goofy villains. This game had such a great tense atmosphere overall.
Yeah, one of the guards in the sewers couldn’t find Batman so Joker threatened to kill the dude’s wife. Joker made the guy start begging and pleading, so he only settled with breaking both her legs. Aside from the grim circumstances, a bit wholesome to see a thug being considerate towards family
I'm honestly surprised some of these guys even have wives... One minute they brag about how they kill innocents and sell their organs (it's an actual dialogue) and the other they beg Joker to not kill their loved ones
I like how an anime character like Goku that has taken on and beaten galactic emperors and extremely powerful beings that can turn beings into chocolate knows about stuff like Batman and The Joker alone.
Even the setting eise but also make sense since they're prisoners in arkham asylum so you suspect them to be screw up then the things outside in the other games.
@@iancruz6617 I mean, so is City no? City fs has an unsettling atmosphere, but for whatever reason, even though there are higher stakes, something feels slightly lighter than in Asylum
Me too man. I thought Batman was cool but I never got much into him before I played these games now I'm such a big fan of him. He's my favourite superhero. These games are the only ones where I have 100% in all of them. They're amazing.
Joker's thugs always had the most disturbing dialogue for any the gangs you fought in the Arkham series. You know for a fact that Joker, being Joker, purposefully looked for the most depraved, sociopathic lowlives he could find to hire them.
I still remember that conversation. Where that college kid, highly educated goes to Arkham City to try and help the gangs and just anyone in need - but Joker’s crew break his legs and throw him in a smelting chamber.
I like to think Joker has the most disturbed mooks because they're the only people that are willing to put up with his depravity (or enjoy it). Penguin or Two-Face's goons, I could at least picture them being down-on-their-luck crooks trying to make a buck. But Joker's crew? You HAVE to be really screwed up if you're on his team.
The lack of reaction from the one guy when it was revealed Joker told another person the same thing even though he didn’t have a sister really gets me. He wasn’t lying or pretending to be hard when he said he killed her and didn’t like her anyway, he meant that shit. That’s some scary loyalty right there.
I love the duality of Joker from the perception of this inmate, he says, One minute he’s all random and crazy, and the next he’s all serious and plans” .. something along those lines.. ANYWAY, the point is, the Joker is literally unpredictable to everyone except for Batman, & even then, Batman can’t always figure out what Jokers doing, but he’s the only one that can usually figure most of it out. And it’s scary to think about, imagine a creepy guy in clown make up that’s super goofy and jokey one moment, and then the next, he’s breaking someone’s neck with his bare hands. Like, could you ever really feel comfortable or safe with someone like that around you? I wish they delved deeper into it, but Joker could definitely be a horror character
ye i feel like the arkham games don't show enough of the deprived and irredeemable evil that he inflicts in the games (although there are exceptions like jokers display of his killings in the arkham games which look like torture corn and i especially feel like the arkham games wouldve benefited from lots of blood in gameplay and even gore like the 'Assault on Arkham' movie) since many ppl love the joker and laugh when he even speaks but in the arkham comics, you'd see how fucked arkham joker is
There was also disturbing lines of dialogue from Joker’s goons in “Arkham City” as it showcased the thugs discussing about possibly raping Harley Quinn if Joker died. This of course led to Harley killing them and referencing them in the DLC “Harley Quinn’s Revenge”. She literally uses their fate as threat while communicating with the rest of the thugs and reminds them all that she’s “not easy”.
This is up there with the “Man, you must have really hated your mother.” dialogue from the Steel Mill in Arkham City, when you’re going down the elevator shaft.
ok maybe i was wrong about the arkham games having them to go deeper in the dark and evil shit that the thugs say because majority of the time, the thug's dialogue are funny and kinda lighthearted with the situation that they're in but at the same time not every thug is going to be an irredeemable scumbag like the these ones or the even the Arkham Origins ones where joker kills both of his henchmen in front of batman and where jokers says that 'those TWO were very VERY bad men, the things they've done, you really don't want to know' - which what joker refers to their what they did is up for your interpretation but someone like the thug who was concerned for his wife when joker said that he was going to kill her until he begged in which joker said that he'll only break both of her legs is someone who isn't irredeemably evil and just someone who lived a bad life but are not evil because of it
@@godzillazfrictionBtw in Arkham City there were a lot of thugs that were expressing to want to rape Harley if Joker died due to his illness, they were saying the same thing about doing it to Stacy Baker (the doctor that was sent to cure Joker in the stell mill) and Catwoman aswell.
I love how when you listen to Joker's session tapes, he gets a different diagnosis from each psychiatrist. He's not crazy, he's a calculated genius who can fake different conditions. Amazing.
I remember hearing this as a kid and it took the persona off of the edgy cartoon thugs we knew from most batman related things and it made the thugs seem so much more gruesome and evil. Mentally unstable people who really belonged in that asylum. The kinds of people you'd wanna separate from basic society because they are dangerous. And I remember these lines making those thugs seem so real it didn't feel corny.
I played the first game so many times that once actually two rooks attacked me... i was in panic mod and got hit... When i played arkham city and found out that, now, they actually do that and that you can actually counter attack them... it just blew my mind
This is part of what made Arkham Asylum so unique. Unlike the other games, these guys weren't just some poor bastards who were trying to get by in the worst way possible. They were mentally ill people who were locked in an asylum and worked for the most deranged dude alive.
In the witcher 3 a group of guys were talking about how they ransacked a town. One of the guys said he saw a child who he had beaten then proceded to rape. Said the child was a crying, bloody mess after he was done. But also noted that the child was so flat chested, he couldn't tell whether it was a boy or a girl but stated that he really didnt care either way. That was the most messed up gaming dialogue Ive ever heard....
@@gelothegogang pretty sure it's the group of guys in the white orchard village tavern.... witcher is very fucked as a whole which is why so many ppl love it and is why many love berserk since both don't shy away from the things that happen in real life
@@godzillazfrictionMy thoughts exactly, lately i've come to move on from "family friendly" stuff and start to become a fan of stories like Berserk, The Witcher, Batman or Spawn; as an adult I feel more invested in the story when it feels more grounded and serious in how it portrays evil as a whole and doesn't sugarcoat it, not for the sake of being edgy and bleak, but for the sake of a story with more emotional weight, higher stakes and that feels relatable to real life.
@@godzillazfriction I was going to agree with this until you mentioned Berserk. Yeah I get it it's an uplifting story of Guts who goes from a childhood of torture and brutal living, to an adult with consuming rage and a want for Griffiths head for what he did to Casca and betraying him. Granted, some I've seen, have stupidly tried to argue that Femto was controlling Griffith and that is what lead him to doing what he did to them, but no, Griffith knew what he was doing when he r*ped her. He wasn't even doing it because of wanting her, she was just another way to hurt Guts and to control him, but what Griffith didn't know was that that would lead him to fight for his life with a vengeful Guts on his tail. He wanted to punish Guts for what he didn't accept, but he didn't account for the fact that Guts wouldn't stop until Griffith/Femto was dead. It's never going to get better now that the creator is dead and no longer the primary heart of the story. I imagine it how he was thinking about it ending, with where he were still around now, he'd have finished it and started working on the sequel which is actually Guts and his corrupted son working together and eventually coming out on top, against all odds, and defeating Griffith and his followers. Including killing Casca if it meant for her to be at peace. But I don't read or watch anything, fiction or real, with any kinds of r*pe or even attempted r*pe. Especially if they're underage . I've been into a few different Shouji Ai manga at the moment, so I completely have dropped Berserk and even Goblin Slayer. I just don't like those stories that glorify r*pe in those ways.
"Joker told me to kill my sister." "Did ya do it?" "Hell yeah, never liked her anyway." Wow, the things people do for the Joker order them to do. Damn! My older brother and I don't get along but even that I would be so against.
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Man, I wonder who is crazier. The Joker for telling that guy to kill his sister, even though he said he didn't have one, or them, that keep working for him in the first place!
They are all crazy, but joker will always be the crazier one. I know that people say that the goons don’t have any other options, but here’s a good option: don’t join the damn joker, and you’ll live longer probably.
I loved the NPC’s in the Arkham games. It really helps to build this idea of what Gotham really is. Just a messed up place with messed up people thrown in with the normal ones
@@eren34558 Well, they did and it was on Arkham City where he’s like “this place is tighter than my mother on Prom Night” and the other two thugs are like “the hell is that supposed to mean?” And the other thug “Yeah” and then he goes and says “You don’t want to know” then second thug goes and says “Yeah, I think I do” and then the third thug says “Awwww, was your mommy the town bike?” And then the first thug says “no” and then the second thug is like: “I think she was” then the first thug says “Ah, you know what just forget I said anything” then they keep teasing him “No, now you have to tell us” then the first thug says: “If you must know, she killed her date on Prom Night” then the 2nd or 3rd thug (surprised/not expecting that) is like “What?” Then the First Thug goes and says: “So, on Prom Night, she gets out of control, so we tie her up to make sure she doesn’t, happy?” The second thug: “I guess”
Arkham Asylum is a masterpiece. Great dialogue, great animations, cool setting, good characters, amazing voice acting, iconic music… not exactly the most complex or innovative game ever made but it comes together greater than the sum of its parts. I don’t have anything against the later games, but the first one really takes the cake for me. What a classic
@@jacopom.7477 “not exactly the most complex or innovative game ever made but it comes together greater than the sum of its parts” kinda different yknow
Arkham Asylum seemed to feel like a place where madness comes to fester and grow rather than a place to get rid of it. On my first time viewing the full asylum (after getting out of the place we started out in) between the view and the music I felt as if I could smell the madness, as if it was trying to burrow its way into my skin. I have heard that Arkham Asylum is based off of world from H.P. Lovecraft. From what I have seen here and what I have heard of Lovecraft's works, I can see that.
They're all actually really dark. Especially when you get into the realm of implication. I think that Arkham Asylum mainly feels darker because it has the least subtle writing of the series and not because it's actually darker than City or Knight. But in City and Knight there are a lot of moments where they just stop short of stating something in simple terms, and what's implied is often just as dark as anything in Asylum. Personally, I think that Knight goes the furthest in terms of the kinds of things that are suggested. But Arkham Asylum can definitely be shocking from how bluntly it states things.
@@rakkasaniron1696 Arkham Asylum probably has the most grounded of all the games. Sure the villains have their comic book quirks, but the Atmospher, the “patient interviews”, and the thugs banter are a stark reminder that there are screwed up who are really capable of doing shit like this in real life.
@@griz312 na the same thing goes to all the other arkham games... Arkham Origins feels the most grounded since the Jokers thugs that joker himself kills were Black Masks former henchmen but joker mentions that they're very VERY bad men and the things they've done, you really don't want to know
The first time when you encounter thugs with firearms in this game is when you see some security guards get shot, and there’s one alive pleading the inmates not to kill him. “You don’t have to do this”.. after the goons execute him as well you hear one of them say “you’re right, I don’t have to. I WANT to..” I always thought that was so brutal and really made the game seem like it had strong horror elements
Jesus, this makes me pore over the golden age of Rocksteady. Truth be told, Insomniac Spiderman's dialogue makes me grate my teeth with how fucking corny and unnatural it is. People like to compare the two series, but I think we all really know that insomniac isnt brazen enough to include shit like this.
When they mentioned how sometimes Joker would hold auditions to join his crew but every now and then he'd do stuff like set them all on fire or something
The phone one was messed up too where the random lady called in to Arkham and the Joker answered if you walk by it "Hi, I'm trying to reach Steve, is he there?" "One second, I'll try to find him..." "Oh thank you so much" "...I'm sorry, all I could find was his head!"
I remember taking a break from playing Asylum for a couple of months when I was 14, because I was too scared to do the Killer Croc mission in the sewer 😂😂😂
It is intense for usual relation of Batman (PC) being the hunter and goons being prey (dangerous prey you don't toy with) is reversed. Killer Croc is calling the shots and wants Batman dead and uses same methods of stealth and homefield advantage.
Reminds me of dialogue from City (I think) about a guy’s mother committing a massacre on prom night, and in the same conversation is referred to as “the town bike”. Funniest shit.
My Mom threw a dish drying rack at my Aunt because she called my brother a f*gg@ţ They fought each other physically soon after that. She then hit my Aunt with a Fruitninja. This all happend on Thanksgiving 😅
This is actually a very accurate depiction of the corrupted human mind. People do talk and think this way in real life. Batman Arkham Asylum is definitely underrated.
It is not underrated. It just looks weaker when compared to Arkham City. Arkham Origins was good and Arkham Knight had some issues despite story not being one of them.
@@kobi7955 It had way bigger hurdle to cross. For Batman's final appearance it was solid and I found it interesting. Wasn't as forced as Asylum's story was despite mystery identity being quite lazy choice.
@@vksasdgaming9472 I just think that Jason shouldn't have been included at all and Hush should've had a much bigger part to play, if I were to give the Arkham Knight an identity at all it would've been a descendant of Amadeus Arkham who wants to destroy Batman.
@@kobi7955 Hush was sidequest so he didn't matter. Why would someone related to A. Arkham want to destroy Batman? Jason Todd was plausible choice and he had a grudge. Too bad there were not many so guessing who Arkham Knight was easy.
It's like in The Dark Knight: Joker attracts these crazy mfers. But also, having his goons kill somebody close to them, or kill a completely innocent stranger to get him off their back, makes sure that his goons will do whatever he says, no matter how depraved
There's a part in Arkham City where these two Joker goons are explaining to a tied up Two Face dude what witnessing a human being being burned alive is like in detail whilst they're playing to do the same thing to him.
I played this game without knowing how good it was and I believe that's why it made such an impact on me. Also, as a testament of its greatness even my brother who doesn't play games all that much (he only plays FIFA and some racing games) ended up finishing it.
The reason why thugs sound more disturbing in the first game , they let actual prisoners do the voice for the thugs. They laughed at the script that they were given and the voice directors let the prisoners adjust the lines. So some of these lines have some truth to them
There's also an incredibly disturbing tape found near the beginning of the game in which a doctor interviews the Riddler and he makes a particularly unsettling "joke" about a baby.
Batman criminals he has to deal with is extreme criminals, willing to move up in their gang no matter what their told to do. Messed up, but they signed up for that life, so when their sent to do a task they gotta do it, Gotham and Arkham criminals are insanely crazy
