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THE most EFFICIENT way to sand body filler | BLK ICE pt.10

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@davidallum2728 12 дней назад

I've just discovered your channel. I've been spreading g body filler all my life but not on cars I'm a propmaker for movies. I've just started a restoration of my Lada Niva so am watching your episodes intently, picking up some great tips. I'm coming up for 70 years old and dead keen. I'm also glad you refer to it as body filler ( like we do in UK) not bondo.

@kauaisfinest14 23 дня назад

I am amazed where I live that much hardener will have the filler stiff as a board before getting to the panel

@jimmykeeys7669 16 дней назад

Hi guys, we visited your shop back in the day when Bill Papke (RIP) took us around to one of your open days. Good to see you’re still at it. Cheers. Jimmy, New Zealand.

@user-fy2qz4ho6e Месяц назад

I just retired from being a pipeline inspector. I am restoring older pickup trucks, and was blown away by your content ! Super quality, and you explain your moves perfectly ! New subscriber and am super happy I found you !!

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

Thank you for sticking around. And we really appreciate the feedback. 🤝

@Braveheartman123 Месяц назад

I’m recently retired and bought a 68 Galaxy fastback that’s all steel but has dings and scrapes and lots of old paint cracking and wear. I bought a DA and a paint gun and watching lots of videos. I want to prep my car for the painter as best as I can, but he says he might guide coat and block the bigger areas before he paints the car, since I am a novice to say the least. I’m not too bad at spreading filler and then cheese grating and sanding it down but I don’t want waves or fisheyes so I will pay the painter/bodyman to do the final work. A 68 Galaxy fastback is not a 100k car even when perfect so I’m not too concerned about perfection. If it’s a very glossy “2 footer” I will be happy.

@jeffalvich9434 Месяц назад

Especially with roofs hoods and trunks.... large flat areas.... Drywall knives are the most effective and efficient tools use to apply plastic filler to a panel..... And they come in widths up to 24"..... This automatically makes the application much smoother and more consistent to the shape.

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

Seen any flat panels recently?

@richarddahlgren4775 25 дней назад

i have always added fiberglass resin to bondo as it makes the product so much better.

@charliejones7574 24 дня назад

That's fairly old school too. And it WORKS

@garysgarage.2841 Месяц назад

I'll take it down more personally I like seeing the high spots. Not so their actual proud but just to the point there's a transparent micro layer of filler over the high spot. I'm satisfied I've left the minimum amount of filler needed at that point.

@bobweber8640 Месяц назад

I have a 65, K10 Suburban. I call it my Bondo sculpture!! This process was done to it, minus the powder coat, a few years before I bought it. I made the mistake of filling minor cracks in that body filler and then painted it again. Today the filler is dropping off in sheets. I suppose if the vehicle is kept out of the sun as much as possible it will probably fair okay?!

@highlander5934 11 дней назад

cant believe you done all that in rage gold... stuff is the worst sanding filler iv tried

@jeremyalbert2069 Месяц назад

thats alot of mudd ,, arent you worried about it cracking and blistering back out after a few years ?? my dad had a collision shop for 30 years , and i dont ever remember him useing that much filler in any project , a collision job or a restoration .. usually we would have a body blasted , or dipped , and then replace any rust with new metal , and just work the metal make it as straight as possible and use the least amount of mudd as possible ...please explain your process and why you are doing what your doing , everyone does things different , not saying your wrong would like to learn new stuff !!!

@byronn.2885 Месяц назад

It looks like a lot but it’s a very thin coat. It’s easier to get the panel flat this way versus the fill the dents method. It’s basically the same thing as spraying multiple coats of high build primer and then blocking. I was taught his method years ago by a friend that did amazing restoration work and it made a huge difference in the results I can get now.

@123suzukisamurai Месяц назад

It’s not how much you put on it’s how much you leave when done. Any remaining is in the low spots. Metal was previously brought to as correct shape as possible beforehand but there are always irregularities left. This is corrected by filler. Note he keeps sanding till he hits metal so the majority would be sanded off.

@chevy35c Месяц назад

Auto collision shops mainly only repair a body panel or two and they are not doing a restoration on a full car. Plus by the time it's done there's very little left of filler.

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

Get er dun, get paid. Who cares what happens 6+ yrs from now.

@waterlover Месяц назад

Cracking was in the old days . New products have changed the game .

@Steverinomeister Месяц назад

Interesting stuff. 2:58 Wings not Fins. 59 Chevys have Wings as in Batwings. 57’s have fins.

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

You’re absolutely right about that whoops 😬

@jeffp862 21 день назад

Use Icing, block spray a polyurethane primer K200 or ultimate primer surfacer sprayed out of a pressure pot goes on like cake frosting. Cover the whole car uniform .Block it off spray a guide coat and final block and have the straightest Job you’ve ever seen

@timfisher77 15 дней назад

nicw work. I allways start by puting the on jackstands and I allways do the bottoms of the rockers first

@MackeysHotRodShop 13 дней назад

Great advice. I like that option also.

@stephenjewitt9009 Месяц назад

To me, it looks like you've got a good little system down. In Australia, I worked with a Nigel, and I like his style the way he did things but called it smoothing cream. When I worked in Indiana on Indy cars, it was the same but a bit different. I had the theme from James Bond, but it changed out to Bondo, James Bondo. The bit I am interested in is the sanding blocks and different grits you use. I have a 1949 Ford convertible that is going to get the smoothing cream treatment soon. From what I see, you're very efficient in getting a good job done.

@MG-gs4uu Месяц назад

A good autobody man removes the old paint before applying filler

@alelectric2767 11 дней назад

Exactly!

@jasongraham8140 20 дней назад

Been doing filler work for 25 years, NEVER let it fully harden before shaping it with 40 grit, you'll work your ass off. Only in the final putty coats do I let it set up fully

@MackeysHotRodShop 13 дней назад

Agreed. 🤝

@charliejones7574 24 дня назад

I still have a flat file I baught 45 years ago. Still have my first DeVilbis too

@michaelmaher4328 24 дня назад

ive got my jga 502 with an 80 air cap. got a mbc 510. binks 7 and a 2001 and a 62. ive still got my sioux buffer. they were good tools that made me some money, my hutchens da got stolen of id still have that too

@charliejones7574 24 дня назад

@@michaelmaher4328 mine is a JGA I believe. Baught it used in "77" When I left the body shop, I gave my student my D.A sander ( baught used) and a Snapoff dual piston line sander. Kept my hand tools, hammers & dollies, Binks 7, FITZ &FITZ look alike. Sharp 60 series. All wrapped up waiting for me to pull them all out some day. Maybe my Son will get a feel for it, who knows

@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 21 день назад

Good work man !

@ss0073 Месяц назад

Good stuff right there. Went through a 3g bucket of this stuff when I skimmed my entire car. Guys think it’s a lot of mud, but 3/4 of it ends up on the floor. It’s at most 1/8-3/16 thick at a few spots, other spots not much left at all. Polyester high build (liquid filler) on top before final blocking. Straight as an arrow.

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

More than .060" demands better sheet metal work. But who cares what happens in 6+ yrs from now.

@peterantonopoulos2572 Месяц назад

Nice work ethic! Cheers guys!

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

Much appreciated!

@alelectric2767 11 дней назад

Uhhh remove the paint first folks. It will stick to the paint but better to apply it to the steel or epoxy primer.

@youtube-handle-are-a-joke 21 день назад

I used to do body filler, but I developped an allergy to it, I suspect the styren that's in there. It's a burning sensation and hyper sensitivity to the touch on some areas of my body and it can last for up to 3 days. So now I only do the metal work and stay away from even someone applying bondo because it will affect me.

@samknaak 19 дней назад

Great educational video!

@MackeysHotRodShop 16 дней назад

Thank you

@glennwilbur2546 Месяц назад

New subscriber and I enjoy your rationale when describing the why for nuances during you commentary !

@FINfinFINfinFINfin Месяц назад

Great video. I can't wait to dig into your other videos. I think one thing that separates the pros (you) from the joes (me) is being able to get that filler mixed so thin. I'm always worried I will mix it too thin and run into a curing issue (like shrinking) sometime down the road.

@JohneeB Месяц назад

Thanks for the play by play, I am paying attention! Almost to 5k subs! I will be expecting my sweatshirt! ; )

@Bee7Gee Месяц назад

Cheese grader for the win

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

🫡🧀

@jessemontgomery60 22 дня назад

Proper cheese grater use. Not many do or show that.

@MrToddsimmers Месяц назад

Subscribed! Awesome show, you do great work!

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

Awesome, thank you!🙏

@user-xo3wb7yu9e Месяц назад

Excellent! How much fun IT IS, to learn Something

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

Agreed. Thanks for watching.

@leesydneyharry7958 15 дней назад

The bat car if he cut and shut in the right place, oh then “block it out” right on.

@johnfisher7716 26 дней назад

Really amazing work...loved it. 👍👍

@allangoodger969 19 дней назад

Very interesting UTE.

@dbc105 Месяц назад

Lord I hope you get big money for all this hard work.

@30psi.4g63 Месяц назад

Looking good. Whats the reason for using powder coat versus an epoxy?

@rcamoonpie648 Месяц назад

Exactly what I was thinking! I use epoxy religiously Seems like the powder coat would be like sanding concrete and no adhesive qualities between filler and powdercoat. Maybe I’ve been doing it wrong for all these years🤨

@Handlehandlebars 28 дней назад

The rage ulta specifies NOT using honey. Maybe the gold is diff. Just a heads up in case anybody wants to get super techy lol. Great vid tho Question....whats your shop temp when your spreading on that quarter panel?

@LemanRvss1982 9 дней назад

What is the orange car in thr back ?

@s.godbur3589 17 дней назад

How do you attach the sandpaper to the transparent block?

@MackeysHotRodShop 13 дней назад

Sticky back paper

@smerd1 25 дней назад

Liked and subbed from the UK 🤙

@MackeysHotRodShop 24 дня назад

🤘

@slayercrawford9694 27 дней назад

Heres me in 30° heat wondering how cold it must be in there for that filler not to kick in 2 minutes flat.

@RaymundoEspinoza-m9x Месяц назад

Is ok😢 but I'm seeing to much waste expensive material and time 😅😢

@tonydiesel3444 Месяц назад

If the panel is already almost perfect why not just spray some high build in the spots and block it in then maybe spray the entire panel and reblock and you're done especially since it's almost perfect to begin with

@charliejones7574 24 дня назад

Over the paint....ok,THAT'S a first for me

@truthinadvertising2702 23 дня назад

If you read the TDS of most filler over paint is okay but over-epoxy primer is not an acceptable practice.

@mjb242 Месяц назад

Great Video Mackey!

@MackeysHotRodShop 13 дней назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@GMCTIM 29 дней назад

😂 Hold my Beer I'm going in ! 😂

@toddclark332 Месяц назад

Great job Brian thanks guy's allways appreciate your time have a great weekend aee ya later 😎💪🏼🔥

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

Thanks! You too!

@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas Месяц назад

Great video and info !!👍👍

@Keith-ou9su Месяц назад

Im curious why the whole panel is body filler instead of just doing the areas that were bad

@dreamworksmarc Месяц назад

because its safer . this way you will have no high or lower aera's. wenn the metal comes back with sanding. that part will be to high.

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

Gonna be a garage queen with $$$ paint.

@AaronMagri Месяц назад

YES PLEASE !

@davidpetrus1748 25 дней назад

new subscriber here i also do serious mud jobs on occasion but im getting lazier the older i get lol

@thomastaylor2450 Месяц назад

I watched Bad Chad do complete floods like that on a entire bodies and it really seems like a whole lot of extra work he said he much prefers doing this way, is it really necessary to get the perfect finish? Is it a time saver overall? You look like you are putting in a lot labor into shaving down the flood of filler to get it to a thin coat when finished?

@lawncuttingplusdelta Месяц назад

You are one of the biggest trolls on chads channel …. This guy double floods and u are so polite ? ….. tons of shops do this but it costs !! …id rather just fill low spots and rely on hi fill primer

@bozly209 Месяц назад

What is the purpose of putting so much body filler is it to take out the waves of the panel

@brettresler142 Месяц назад

That’s the only way to get them old cars straight

@allenpp6748 Месяц назад

@@brettresler142 These skim coats will crack in 10-15 years. Better to get the metalwork nearly perfect and use a minimal amount of filler. Blocking out high build primer will fix the wavieness.

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

@@brettresler142 Well, kinda sorta. More than a credit card thickness should be sheet metal worked.

@Rob-do9dy Месяц назад

If you can still stand you can still sand. Rob Ormiston

@DemopVWgarage Месяц назад

Why not use a power file? They work so fast cutting down the 40 grt

@bigblocklawyer 29 дней назад

It must be cool where this was shot. If I mix that much conventional filler here in Central Florida right now, it would go off while Im mixing it. I've gone exclusively to Rage Ultra and Ultra Extra. They're mixed together at different ratios to change cure times. A 50/50 mix gives a solid 10 minute spread time no matter how hot it is in the shop. The best part is they sand so easily, I use 120 to knock down and 150 or 180 to finish. Eliminating 80 grit scratches is a big deal.

@MackeysHotRodShop 13 дней назад

Oh man I feel for ya with that humidity

@carlhanna8429 Месяц назад

Real nice job 👏👍👍

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

Thanks 🤝

@bobjons7 Месяц назад

Wow the best tutorial…it was a satisfying to watch. Awesome job guys!! Haha I subscribed before I even knew about the giveaway…maybe I’m too late now matter. Love this channel!

@middletownman6278 Месяц назад

That looks exhausting. I think could live with some waviness myself.

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

Flat black paint works !!!

@budd1814 Месяц назад

a bondo bucket. gallons of bondo. Do you wait a couple of months for all that filler to cure before any paint?

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

Nope. As long as it looks good now.

@drawingconclusions9156 29 дней назад

Hack and pack! Find the high spot and fill to it.

@rongamble9884 Месяц назад

That evercoat has went up so much in price

@MackeysHotRodShop Месяц назад

I know right!! Tell me about it!

@rongamble9884 Месяц назад

@@MackeysHotRodShop I started using usc pro gold because I had to cut back

@geo611 Месяц назад

That's why they consider it "gold" ( for them)

@timbartley5678 Месяц назад

Yes on price I don't see how they get so much work time I follow what they say and I get about 1/2 the time

@rongamble9884 Месяц назад

It's ridiculous the mark up on this stuff because I know it doesn't cost them that much to make it

@jump4j Месяц назад

we used to call those bondo buggies now it seems to be the norm and metal finishing is almost gone

@kennethbrown5784 Месяц назад

Powder coat?

@keithsclassicgarage1133 Месяц назад

This will ad some weight to the car?

@kingtut5923 Месяц назад

I prefer a 12 in spreader

@hellkell8693 Месяц назад

That’s one way to do it.

@intheshoptv 29 дней назад

Love building cars but LOATHE body work

@RubyCustom Месяц назад

Vids are killer

@skipisibbe 3 дня назад

Why do Americans always use so goddamn much body filler? they just fill the whole panel and sand it down, wasting material and time. I understand on some panels its neccesary but they used the whole 3kg rage gold :O. A good example at 7:40 he explains he is gonna use another whole layer of rage gold just to fill in the 40 grit scratches... there might still be some things that need a layer of filler, but filling the whole panel with rage gold is mental to me. I have been using rage gold for years and its great but there are simply better products to use in that situation. or couldve used just switched to 80 and than 150 grit at the end? If someone can explain to me these american ways of working, i would love to hear it.

@mst8688 26 дней назад

This video is the reason to not buy cars from the USA 😂😂😂

@MackeysHotRodShop 13 дней назад

Buy from China

@dannydkasel8296 Месяц назад

cheapest way to get plane, even surfaces ... but boy, real proper work uses bodyfiller just where needed. Normally you spray bodyfiller and sand it down

@user-zp9yx9kq8k Месяц назад

click bait where is the efficiency????

@jimthomas1989 Месяц назад

I found the BEST way to sand Body filler (Puddy ) ! Don't apply it in the first place 😂 You put that on any of my vehicles and I'll break your fingers 😂

@larrywilliams3858 Месяц назад

Yeah. Sure!

@user-ff1hn7ve9e Месяц назад

He's up there with bad chad

@bstevermer9293 Месяц назад

You don’t own any old cars do you?

@user-ff1hn7ve9e Месяц назад

@@bstevermer9293 yes i do but I have repaired them without filler. It's not hard. Maybe put the camera down and spend more time practicing on metal work.

@traviskoa Месяц назад

Alot of rookies in hear that don't know shit😂

@hotrodray6802 Месяц назад

I've seen lots of $ 15,000 paint jobs that were shit underneath... Guys always said: "they're garage queens anyway!"

@thomasstott527 Месяц назад

you said when you hit bare metal you have to stop.... either tap the spot down... or ad more filler... you left out a very important step... you must epoxy prime any bare metal break threws.... you should never... ever apply filler over bare metal

@bstevermer9293 Месяц назад

It literally says on the can, apply over bare metal. This epoxy primer thing has gotten out of hand.

@thomasstott527 Месяц назад

@bstevermer9293 lol one of those guys 🤦... it's been proven way after they " put it on the can" that is not correct... body filler is porous... very porous... moisture can leach threw and cause corrosion between the bare metal and filler... happens here in Florida all the time due to the moisture in the the air... and just so you know... when you use a real filler.. not bondo brand 🤣... it doesn't say to apply over bare metal " on the can " ... some people 🙄

@lawncuttingplusdelta Месяц назад

WRONG !!!!

@thomasstott527 Месяц назад

@@lawncuttingplusdelta .... what's wrong?

@lawncuttingplusdelta Месяц назад

@@thomasstott527 you