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So true...do you know so many tears later it has been proven the over 90...nine out of 10 used some sort of banned drug?...not defending lance...but you have never been there..all the bikes pass the cars...stop bashing if you dont know the whole truth.
I'm not gonna lie, these days were incredibly exciting. Armstrong, Ulrich, Basso, then Vinokourov, Schleck, Contador, but honestly, how does anybody expect these drivers to do it without doping? The Tour de France is just inhumane, absolute lunacy!
It would be great sport and spectacular, even if nobody would do doping. Maybe 20 minutes longer for one stage. Who cares? Any maybe drivers would more often have a bad day, because of a hard tour. So even more exciting.
Why would you lie? They were exciting! They say ignorance is bliss. Now we looked back, and at one point or another those top guys were caught doping. I wouldn't say they needed to for the grueling competition, but just to be able to compete. We all know how Miguel Indurain abandoned the race in 1996. For whatever number of reasons but he was being smacked by many of the competitors. 32yrs old Bjarne Riis flew thru that tour, and later admitted he was doping. A 23 yrs old Ulrich, on his same team came in 2nd; clean? He won it the next year. Pantani won it in 1998, and died of health problems due to the use of drugs. It was in 2000 when I saw Pantani destroyed the field in a mountain event, and then he quit the tour because of some health issue. I didn't know exactly how doping worked at that time, but I remember thinking, what in the world did this guy take? Did I love watching Panatani? Heck yeah! But he died as a direct consequence of drugs overuse. He still shows as the 1998 TDF winner. Ulrich as the 1997 winner. Lance punishment came as a result of his asshole personality (I loved him as an athlete but couldn't be his friend) and all the shit he did to others. So doped guys, we're doped guys competing against each other. We didn't know about it, and we enjoyed it.
The German Rider in Teal Green ( Jan Ullrich ) waited for Lance Armstrong to catch up after his fall because Lance Armstrong did the same once to wait for Jan Ullrich when he fell down in one other race >>> That's the Mark of a Fair & True Champion! 🌷🌿🌍💖🇺🇸🇩🇪
Doping or not, all these riders were on another level either way. Nobody can deny the tremendous amount of training and work they all put in for years.
@@SheepDog1974 It could never be an even playing field, because people react differently to PEDs, they can take different PEDs, and none of it is regulated.
I agree. They were all doping and Armstrong was the clear champion. I live cycling but the doping has not and never will change. What they do is superhuman
They still are. They are still on a crazy other level. Watch Icarus. Dope doesn't just make you win the tour. I could train my whole life , take all the dope in the world. I still would finish dead last against these guys.
I came here to verify that Pogacar is reminding me of my childhood Lance Armstrong memories. Meaning, the fact that Lance was on the juice, showing unhuman performances....nothing but despite for him.
No it was not. It was always the same thing. He would always win, whatever happened. In the mountains, he would let everybody standing on their pedals like salt statues, while he remained seated on his bike, rushing like he was riding harley davidson. The cheating was obvious to anybody knowing the sport, obvious to anyone knowing the tour. The UCI and the tour would shut up because he was bringing usa fans. But he was not even subtle, his cheating was vulgar, and he was a bully to anyone standing up to him, including the great Greg Lemond. A true champion who had us cheering for him in the late eighties, earning everybody's respect the hard way.
When I was a kid we never wore helmets on our bikes or skiing or mini-biking or skateboarding. At the time Evel Knievel was doing crazy jumps and we would all be making ramps and doing jumps over all kinds of crazy stuff, no helmets. We didn't wear seatbelts in the car either. We would ride 6 kids in the way-back of the Ford Gran Torino Wagon unrestrained with the tailgate window wide open. And it's not like nothing bad ever happened. I am not making any of this up. The 60's and 70's were hardcore. You either survived or you died. I knew a few who died.
I can say as kid here in Australia many years ago riding a bike you couldn’t wear a helmet because there wasn’t any in those days , never seen a helmet really until they made it law here to wear one otherwise no one used them.
Tyler Eaton ... that’s how life was back then , there wasn’t the rules we all have today, life was way more relaxed, now we can’t fart with out a permit. No permit you get find lol yes a bit over the top but that’s how it’s getting these days.
Dude got dropped out of the crash. Got back up, and is dropping dudes that can't hold his wheel left and right while spending 90% of the time out of the saddle. UNREAL. I remember being little and so proud of my fellow countryman!
How sad it must be to be proud of one of the greatest cheats in the history of sports recognized by himself. It's like being proud of the one who wins playing with children.
@@pedrilopez6588 If Lance was competing against Children maybe this would be true. But the reality is, he was racing against Super Humans who most of which were doping the same as him.
@@jonhowland4985 hahahahahaah , It seems that you forget when he appeared on television crying, acknowledging that he was a cheater, you are the ones who have to overcome him and know that he had nothing of superman, they put him as superman because he came out of a serious illness and did what he did, until what we all already knew was shown, THAT HE WAS A FUCKING CHEATER.
Lance made me start watch cycling. Jordan had just quit the Bulls so no more basketball for me. But following Lance was almost as exciting as watching the Bulls.
@@FraudkovicIt’s a race man. You are watching a ball going back and forth for hours. You can make any sport sound stupid… Respect sports, you don’t have to love it.
@@markuspetersen5510 lol a 10 hour race is just a stupid idea . A race should be short and sweet and gripping . Not something that you turn off for 5 hours and then put it on again for 5 mins just to check the standings.
Last years TdF battle between Vingegaard and Pogačar was pretty epic! But I first got hooked on grand tour cycling in the Armstrong era. It was all so exciting, particularly this very race! I have since read all the books, watched all the interviews and docs, and to be honest, in my opinion, Lance IS a 7 CONSECUTIVE times TdF winner! I doubt if that will happen again in my lifetime. Love or hate the person, he was an absolute beast on the bike!
Couldn't agree less. Former anti-doping director thinks he had a motor hidden in his bike. He was no legend. Just really good at cheating and bullying.
Dope or no dope, he was exciting to watch, however…I’d have maintained a lot more respect for the man if he hadn’t tried to ruin the lives of those who spoke out against him for cheating when he knew fine well he was the ringleader and those people were speaking the truth.
I agree he was a beast on bike. One doesn't simply win 7 Tours only with dopping. It takes a lot of very hard training, sacrifices, 365 days per year preparing mentally and physically for this race.
Something that has always fascinated me is how they can deliver 300-400 watts of power for +-1 hour with such "thin" legs. Just imagine, you are 180cm tall and 65-70kg cyclist. At that height and weight your legs aren't bulky and can't even be very muscular (muscle is heavier than fat) if you want to sustain that kind of power for a long time. Crazy.
@@rosetallon1162No, it's called being a freak of nature. That's like saying Usain Bolt wouldn't be fast without drugs lmao, and he's obviously taking drugs too btw. He still would be the best regardless. Its the same with Lance.
I dont care what other people say. Lance Armstrong is still my favorite Tour de France rider. That man won 7 years after each other. One of the best and there will be nobody who can beat him on that.
it's a fact that being "doped" is more healthy for your body than not being doped if you wanna ride the TdF. the race is so gruesome, people burn 3KG+ off their muscles from start to finish. Feel free to ride a single 200km stage with a 45km/h. you can maybe do that in the peloton, but you won't come up the mountains anymore. neither would you produce 10W/KG after those 200km. kudos on you
Just watched the Lance docu on iplayer. Very interesting. Basically he was told if you don't dope up you ain't winning shit. The human body without dope couldn't cope with the relentless demands of the tour. If you can't beat em then you had to join em.
Колкото и да го оплюват бил е невероятен.Взимал е всякаква химия но и другите са взимали.Просто е бил много добър.И днес не е по различно колоезденето.
@@slumdogpreacher6964 not just back then but from the very beginning if it wasn’t cocaine it was amphetamine and after it was hormones era and the testo era the EPO era and now the electric engine era
They all cheated. Every single one of them were doped up, Armstrong just had some different level dope combined with insane genetics. Yes he was a cheat but he was the best of a whole bunch of cheats.
@@DurianriderCyclingTips People that think you could conceal a motor that had that big of a charge and that much power with no sound way back in the late 90s and early 2000s or just ridiculous. It’s like they don’t even remember what the technology was like back then. Now? Possibly, back then, come on. Shit was archaic. Don’t forget that Lance was still using a downtube shifter for his big ring to save weight and shift more accurately. That’s how pathetic the top of the line tech was and some still think they had a battery powered motor? Come on
Without doping it would have been Ulrich with 7 titles. Lance was more disciplined in doping. Ulrich on the other hand often peaked before the Tour or after.
Its worth watching the Move, where Lance, George and the rest of the Blue Train talk openly about each race, including the drugs. On this one his bike was broken, he was not in the races until he fell, then he went for it, worth seeing his real open view point on things, he and the rest discuss these races, doping , during training he would put out 495 for 30 mins. We need to remember everyone else was on the same sauce, teams changed riders and continued on the same sauce, it was around before and after lance. All this, he took more epo is rubbish. its not that simple.
Exactly right. We don't demonise Schwarzenegger for doing Steroids - they are still legal in weightlifting. Just because something used by everyone in cycling became illegal later should not diminish his achievements, let alone strip him off his titles, let alone cause him to be demonised for the rest of his life... if his time was after those drugs became illegal he would still be the best thanks to his massively oversized heart and willpower
Pro cycling courtesy protocol. If your in a breakawy lead and a fellow rider goes down your slow and allow them to catch up. Jan Ullrich did not give Lance that courtesy and he paid for it in the end. You van see the determination and anger in Lance's eyes. He was not going to lose.
according to Tyler Hamilton's book, Jan Ulrich slowed down a bit but not a lot as didn't quite know what was going on; Hamilton told him to slow down (which Ulrich did) then Armstrong bridged back and then took off and rest is history; despite by that time not being on the same teams and competing Armstrong messaged Hamilton's wife to thank him for taking that step that night - if I remember this was the year Hamilton had a broken shoulder but still got 4th and had the huge breakaway a couple of days after this
wdym dope or not lmao, his performances was good because of the dope and the reason he was better than the other guys was because he had the best doctor at that time to tell him exactly when and how to use the drugs he provided.
@@bobmiller4343 Read the comment again dipshit "dope or not, the dude put in some amazing efforts, most of those guys use the same" bla bla bla. He was cheating, so was the others he was just better at cheating cause of dr ferrari so he won. The early 2000s is literally known as the dark years of cycling.
