The Most Exciting Probe that No-one is Talking About | ESA JUICE Jupiter Icy Moons Explorer 

Far from it friend

You're not alone buddy, and there's no shame in that, only pride =D

You're not alone, friend

I'm not a grown man but yes, it makes me cry. It's not really crying tbh. I feel this weird emptiness within me while imagining the cosmic vastness and suddenly my vision gets blurry and I realise- I'm happily sad.

A shared experience, my friend

NASA is doing another Europa probe, called the Europa Clipper. Despite not having launched yet, it is scheduled to arrive at Europa first. The two missions will be at Jupiter together for 18+ months.

SpaceX is rocket company, they don't do science...

Uh JPL is making europa clipper, we're talkin a lot about europa. Also juice is focusing more on ganymede.

@@toadtws Funnily enough, JUICE and Europa Clipper kind of began life as a joint mission between NASA and ESA under the name Europa Jupiter System Mission (although Europa Clipper was an earlier proposal in 1997, but it was rejected at the time), with a Europa and a Ganymede orbiter component. It was proposed in 2008 and effectively canceled in 2011 due to budget issues. But ESA decided to make JUICE based on the Ganymede orbiter which was their part in the joint mission. And then in 2015, the Europa Clipper mission got the go-ahead and funding

@@kukuc96 Aaah, that explains why the missions have so much overlap! It almost feels like how Hollywood studios hear about an interesting script and rush out a competitor (Armageddon/Deep Impact; The Prestige/The Illusionist) so the other one doesn't get all the revenue for moviegoers interested in {genre}. But in this case, I love the way the missions will actually complement each other.

I commented something very similar when Osiris rex launched, really cool to see it through (almost back, I think it returns late 24)

@@jadenantal1652 Accourding to NASA it will return sept 24 2023.

@@JacobBax nice to know I was wrong, that's only a few months out

Well, I'll be 80, so this exploration may be one of the last I witness. It's important to me on many levels. I'm certainly hoping there are no mission ending problems, now that getting into space has gone well. 👍

and with the problems with the antennae, etc., on this vehicle that stress must be peaking about now

Well at least you’ll get to see two moon landings in your life and maybe confirmation that we aren’t alone in the solar system you’ve had a good set of experiences so far!

At 73, I'm hopin we both get to see this happen.

OJ Simpson can't believe his luck. After all that happened, they've named a spacecraft after him.

@@skarecrowster I didn't make that connection I guess because of my age, 73, so OJ came along much later in my life to notice.

I really hope I get to see the results of juice and I’m 54

Same here😊😊😊

Europa's already certified amazing - no need to wait! From the light/poetic style of Carl Sagan in Cosmos, to the statistical findings of Voyager, there's already a wide range available in terms of how you want to look further. Europa is fascinating, and carries a ton of promise. Even though the outer moons get very little love, there's still enough info out to occupy an human lifetime. Enjoy!

I can wait. Those moons are not disappearing anytime soon. 😄

Ditto!

I thought i was the only one. It's so nice to fall asleep with

And I thought I was the only one too! Good night

True… this guys voice can make the most stressed out person drift away in moments 👍👍👍

Astrum sleepers unite 🤝💪

They will when it reaches it's destination. Even more people will know about it when it finds something ground-breaking.

Yeah I think ESA has a serious publicity problem, especially compared to NASA. I mean they rarely ever get mentiond while every time NASA anounces they gonna buy a new fax machine an army of youtubers covers it. (That's obviously a joke, but still kind of true...)

Good luck, I believe in you!

could be a forward planetary protection problem. There are no stable orbits there, so if something breaks: it's going into the ice, hot and dirty. The requirement is no bacteria replication for 10,000 years. While they can clean the outside, the inside they can't, and with no atmosphere, it's getting cracked open when it hist Europa, and that RTG is going to make a nice warm puddle for 80 years.

We will meet back here in a decade.

Dude, I'll be 50 in 2031 😟

Europe should drop its inferiority complex in space exploration and start launching crewed missions by themselves. ESA has the knowledge, technology, resources and manpower to do great things in space.

​@@pragma5282 Europe is not giving much money into such projects.investing money in infrastructure rather than space

Where is your university

@@methamphetamineaddict5217 Aberystwyth, in Wales

That's why NASA will always be better than SpaceX.

@@sulijoo spacex works with NASA

Cooperation isn’t profitable though, and so yet another capitalist lie hinders the advancement of science and mankind.

However, they are actually still “competing” in a manner of sorts against NASA and their other contemporaries. Cooperating and competing can take place simultaneously.

@@sulijoo the irony of your comment is hilarious. NASA wins the competition because they focus on cooperation?

I hope it doesn't! A subsurface ocean would be awesome.

A strong name 💪

@@astrumspace ..i was gonna say that..😂😂👊👊💪💪

everyone only cares about NASA and Elon Musks SpaceX with their showoffs while ESA is actually sending important stuff up there that actually help with scientific reasearch :D

Gonna be a tough landing! 😆

Outside of Europe and/or outside the countries participating in ESA, you're unlikely to have heard about Juice unless you are a huge space exploration enthousiast with dozens of subscriptions, or following whatever space exploration related news medium. Even I, living in the Netherlands, an active ESA member with two (former) active astronauts didn't see or read much about it in the media. I expect NASA's upcoming Europa Clipper mission, planned for launch in October 2024, will get significant more media attention...

@@Emdee5632 It was on BBC news too.

Just the beginning

Wahrscheinlich sprechen nicht viele in den USA über ESA Missionen ;)

I'd say I get 20 NASA did X videos recommended for every ESA did Y so I think it's kinda true. Obwohl ich nur 15km con Lampoldshausen weg wohne und die Test hören und sehen kann ;)

@@Aligartornator13 dann könntest du die Tests auf YT stellen? Das sind doch bald Prometheus-Tests für die nächste Generation LCH4 Motoren, oder?

We better hope We don't.

@@curiositycloset2359 and why is that?

@@deadlypyre fermiparodox. If we find life. It means it's common. But Intelligent life isn't. So, we are probably doomed.

@@curiositycloset2359 damn your point is more intelligent as I thought at first

That means you think life emerges at every place it can possibly emerge?

The problem with nuclear RTGs used on missions like the ones used on Voyager is that they are incredibly expensive compared to much cheaper solar panels. That's why NASA used solar panels for its Juno Jupiter orbiter and will use solar panels on its upcoming Europa Clipper mission. They were able to use the money they saved on scientific instruments or on other missions. Also, solar panels produce more power than RTGs. For example, the ISS, which uses more power than any other object launched into space, is completely solar powered. There are proposals to make nuclear reactors that could outdo solar (e.g., sterling reactors) but they are years away. Generally, RTGs are used when solar isn't readily available (e.g., the surface of Mars where there are dust storms and it's nighttime 50% of the time) or the light levels are too low (e.g., at Saturn and beyond).

@@bbartky how expensive is it exactly? Once the tech has been develloped what drives up the cost of subsequent RTG enough that it significantly impacts a $2B project? At face value the tech doesnt seem incredibly complicated. On the other hand we're running out of plutonium 238 since its not longer produced at scale

@@bbartky Europa Clipper will even use the exact same solar cells, because they have been so thoroughly analyzed for these extreme conditions.

@@bbartky Well Its Jupiter and not Saturn, but still as said in the video the solar panels need to be several times as large as they would have to be on Earth or Mars. And this then quickly becomes very costly as well, especially considering they have to be controlled, rotated, folded/unfolded, protected during inner solar system flybys, so its a lot more points of failure with them than with a RTG. Personally I think they worry about the PR issue more than cost. The public does not really like nuclear so much and the idea that there will be plutoium on a rocket that could explode or there could be some uncontrolled re-entry of the thing scares people.

The standard MMRTG simply might not be powerful enough for this mission. The solar panels on JUICE produce almost 8 times the power of one of those standard RTGs, even out at Jupiter.

I think that if your first language is English, braincells giving attention to pronounciation of other languages just atrofy...

They’re just so _far_

In that case let's hope NASA's Europa Clipper mission launching in 2024 will get more coverage! Which I'm sure it will get...

I think what is hard is to be trap in those plante's gravitational influence and orbit them. Juice will not do that though

apparently getting to orbit of Venus is not as difficult as that of Mercury. A lot of mission to Venus happened in 1960-1980 Galileo, Cassini, Messenger, and other probe also maked a gravity assist swing from Venus it's just that after Venus was discovered to have the hellish atmosphere and landscape, the interest went elsewhere

Nah, planet mercury is the only one hard, venus isn’t so bad, you see, planet Venus is the closest planet to distance to us so yeah, meanwhile planet mercury is way harder because it’s further away, sometimes more then mars to us Actually it’s easier to go to venus then mars as it requires less fuel Also, Juice is a very heavy spacecraft, 5 tons in weight, and thus requires way more Delta-V (the amount of speed to give) No, it’s not because it reach’s beyond max weight and now rocket can’t lift it, no, it’s just it needs enough speed in order to reach certain planets And thus, instead of using larger rockets, they use gravity assists in order to carry the heavy spacecraft towards Jupiter with minimal fuel consumed in order to spend its fuels exploring its moons and eventually orbit Ganymede

Thus even a lot of planetary missions spacecrafts use Venus/earth as gravity assists to reach planet mercury like messenger probes or Jupiter and so on

@@tsuribachi thank you for the info

hello. why do you have swastikas in your title? are you a Hindu nationalist? perhaps you are an Indian Muslim that likes to mix symbolic metaphors. perhaps your belief system is non of the previous. could you please clarify?

@@timkbirchico8542 Im not from india, but i love indian history.

The hooked cross is an ancient symbol, used by different cultures. Really only in the Western culture does it have extreme negative connotations since the middle of the 20th century.

Jupiter Icy Moons Explorer or shortened, Juice.

@@Emdee5632 Yeah, the austrian painter.

Good point… RTGs seem to last forever… whereas solar degrades over time

Whats that all about anyway?.

@@winstonmcintosher2702 they are talking about the dominion payout. I'd just say, stop using electronic voting systems, like a real country. Then there wouldnt be any doubt in the reliability of your results. It's worth noting that the democrats have said he same thing in at least two elections I can remember. But they seem to be aloud to without court cases.

Obsessed much? Its a space channel, not a political platform for you to spew your opinions out

​​@@curiositycloset2359 oh so just stop using machines to count the votes? So how would you suggest 350 million votes be sorted? All "real" countries use this kind of tech