Nes Collector and Pi-head here. Playing old Nes/FC games on a proper console is the pinnacle of enjoying the hobby vs emulation. The NT preserves the ritual of the NES, and provides intrinsic value of ownership, and gaming purity to your collection. I really want one, but I'm settling for an AVS. If one comes around cheap enough, I'll score one. Great video. FYI you need Splatterhouse Wanpaku Graffiti, Downtown Special, Crisis Force, and Recca Summer Carnival 92 in your collection.
I remember when Analogue Nt made the Neo Geo AES system covered completely in a wooden shell, instead of plastic. They make cool stuff, but they're definitely catered towards collectors with deep pockets. (which ain't me...lol)
Honestly, for a diehard NES fan $500 starts placing you close to the range for a brand new original NES. However, for the Diehard NES fan....this thing is like an NES on a whole bunch of steroids. One heck of a package. If a SNES version hits the market, I would really have to restrain myself from picking one up. Great vid!
When you play through Double Dragon 3, get in the habit of moving diagonally instead of in straight horizontal lines. If you move in straight horizontal lines, you get your ass kicked. Moving diagonally and vertically means the enemies have to walk up/down to you to attack and gives you an opening. Also, when you get Chin use him for trash enemies. His regular punches take out trash quick, and when you use his claws it takes out bosses really quick.
No problem man. DD3 is one of my favorite games on the NES, and ever since it came out people have shit on it relentlessly. Anything I can do to give it some of the credit it deserves. If you need any help with the bosses or anything else really, get with me. I beat the game dozens of times and I pretty much know it backwards and forwards.
DD3 has multiple characters that each play differently, more stage and enemy variety, less annoying platforming elements and a more satisfying end boss fight. I played both DD2 and DD3 and beaten each multiple times, and I just prefer DD3.
One great thing that I immediately noticed over the AVS is that you don't have to exit the game to access the menu to change options. Nice to know that light guns aren't forgotten either.
Shawn, you forgot to mention one of the best things about this neat system. You can almost totally make the artifacts dissapear when scrolling to the right, left, up or down (example: the green artifacts at the right side of your screen in Mario Bros 3 will dissapear). You need to go to settings, cropping sides and make the sides another value. Your games will look 10x better. This would be THE REASON for me to buy it.
RetroUSB is my preference. People complain about the price but it is really not that expensive when you consider what you get and how much other products like some Everdrives or SD2SNES go for. All of which are worth it!
This is way outta my price range as well. It's really cool that one of your patreon supporters let you review it though. I'm happy with my retrousb avs. The jail break thing is cool, and apparently it's going to support more 8bit systems in the future.
pretty sure quadralords is based off the 1980 arcade game 'warlords' Here is a few famicom games I recommend: Gradius 2, King Kong 2, Goonies, bio senshi dan, cosmo police galavan, mr gimmick, JJ: Tobidase Daisakusen 2 (sequel to 3D world runner)
Thought this was way beyond what I was willing to spend but with the recent news that there'll be other stuff released for the FPGA in this thing I'm definitely interested.
Tommy Pheap u can really hack an nes classic? I thought I read somewhere that Nintendo put an anti hacking program in it. a message comes up basically saying u fucked it up in a nice way, and it's fried.
Wicked Dick Of the West you're not good at reading are you? The abridged version.... no... there is no anti hacking program its an unsecured customized install of linux running a specialized nes/famicom emulator. The message found in the famicom version was a request for people who were reading it to be respectful and not make a mess when playing with the files.
I don't understand the demand for the NES Mini. If you want a cheap device that can play NES games, then get a Raspberry Pi. If you want a more authentic device, (for example, sound emulation is noticeably off on the NES Mini) then get an original NES off eBay. The cool thing about the AVS is that it can be used for either; emulation is 100% accurate (outside any visual enhancements, if you choose to use them) and you can play old NES cartridges on it, but can still output in HD. $500 is a tough sell though.
the famicom games i imported were Gradius 2, holy diver, parodius, Recca, super mario bros 3 is more difficult, because if you get hit once you shrink all that way down. no matter how many powerups you have. I also got a famicom disk system, which can be hooked to the nt or avs, and so i got smb 2 as well as doki doki panic. i also have kid drac, thats a great one.
Ten years ago, I'd have definitely recommended Holy Diver. It was my first import, completely on impulse for cheap, and I wasn't disappointed. But god damn it got expensive. Priced perfectly for an Analogue Nt owner now, I guess.
I think it would be better if they ditched the Famicon port, and added SNES. Now, I know the console would have to be bigger, as the Famicon and NES work on the same board, but still, I rather have an NES and SNES slot, instead of NES and Famicon. If you wanted to play Famicon, you could just buy an adapter. But whatever. Cool system, but still too much for me.
It wouldn't need to be physically bigger. The console core is an FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array), and while a higher capacity FPGA needs to be chosen for SNES than for NES/Famicom, a simple hidden end switch in the sockets could switch the firmware IC or address line that the system boots from. FPGA is essentially a RAM-like device where each cell's stored data determines where it takes two signals from, and what logic function to apply, so it acts like a huge breadboard of millions of simple logic chips, but the wires are determined by software. You can simulate any sufficiently slow and sufficiently simple digital circuit with it, and basically all 16-bit consoles are all within realm of possibility, but as opposed to emulators running on general purpose processors, it can be done exactly with the same timings as the original hardware, no latency, potentially absolutely exact. As opposed to general purpose processors that are predominantly sequential in execution model, the FPGA can also represent fully parallel hardware units and behaviours, and the signal latency from one end of the FPGA to another is very comparable with switching speeds of transistors in older processors, making them so suitable for classic hardware recreation. Since an FPGA doesn't have internal permanent storage, it's loaded up with the wiring diagram of sorts, the program, by an external microcontroller or a special-purpose flash ROM IC on powerup, and that's when you can choose to give it a different program to have it simulate different hardware. But development of FPGA software is a very difficult and slow process, much slower than developing an emulator for a general purpose processor, and there aren't many console recreations written for FPGAs that you can just port, so i guess they just had to release what they already had rather than keep working on it with no money rolling in for another year. It's possible that they could provide a SNES adapter (only a handful of simple components) and firmware upgrade to SNES later.
Siana Gearz Further, since the NES has the most pins of any Nintendo cartridge, one could use a pin converter that also contains a microcontroller that tells the FPGA to use a different system architecture, and effectively run all Nintendo cartridges through a single slot.
I wonder... what are the major contributors to success for an emulation or recreation system? And what system would be most in demand, now that NES is probably covered the best it could be? What system would you like to see recreated personally?
I have a vague impression that a honest, cycle exact N64 may very well be very close to impossible to recreate. It might not seem like it, but its complexity is an order of magnitude higher than anything before it. The main processor alone is like well over a million transistors, while playstation is less than 150000, exotic memory, and a second processor of again similar complexity, that if not emulated fully will break some games, like Golden Eye. Then again, N64 is also so slow, that getting it exact may not at all be the goal, and getting games to play can be done with some hacks. I'll try to think of something, but ultimately this would be a project that I'd lack resources to really implement. Too recent, too complex.
Ignoring price is tough though. Is it "better" than the AVS? In terms of graphical and audio adjustments you can make, for sure. It has way more options in those departments, whether they are worthwhile or not, than the AVS. The Nt also is 1080p, AVS is 720p
RGT 85 I just picked up a GPD XD and I'm really enjoying it. Have you seen it yet? I posted up a video on it. That's my Retro game solution. I was just curious if you saw one since you love Retro games like I. Take care!
FC cartridge imports you need in your life? So many. But here are 2: Crisis Force and Over Horizon. I really want an NT Mini but it's SO unnecessary. I got as far as the "place order" button, but shipping to Japan is $100.
Wow! Great review, I play enough NES that it would be worth the purchase... if I had the $$! Dig those custom output settings and all the video standards.
Your video is getting me fired up to order the new analoge nt noir. I hope I can save up the money by JULY. It'll take that long to get it. Thank you for this review.
You like Konami games. Look out for Wai Wai World 2 on the Famicom. You get to play a bunch of different Konami characters like Goemon, Bill Rizer, Simon Belmont, and some others. It's easy, but it's worth getting.
Had to return mine, to get any clean game to work had to pull it out and put back in many times till it worked. They all worked fine on NES have no idea why. For 450.00 Id expect a flawless system. But they will send me another, once they get mine. Fingers crossed.
awesome video made my shitty day a little better,,,loved the "rgt85 the video game" segment I've noticed how large your channel has become ,,keep up the great work
Dammit Shawn, I hated your opening theme song first time I heard it, but then it got stuck in my head and it won't get out........ and I absolutely love it.
Is the Analogue Nt better then the AVS USB other then one plays in 1080p and the other plays at 720p which is probably pointless. How well does it play the EVERDRIVE-N8. I want more information about that jailbrake thing your talking about. Can you put the whole collection on the sd card???
I'd say if you are BIG on graphical adjustments and audio adjustments, it's better. And yes, you can put pretty much everything, although there are compatiblity issues.
Was doing some research and found some forums for more info about the last 2 questions for the ever drive compatibility issues witch there working on fixing krikzz.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=luvkab0mmke32mkg9bqbbpc5n2&topic=5127.75 and for the jailbrake which they may add more systems in it.( maybe emulation maybe IDK) I found this on another youtube video. reading into this soon. atariage.com/forums/topic/242970-fpga-based-videogame-system/page-42#entry3687219
As good as the Analog Nt look or how many advance features it had, paying $500 for an Famciom/NES is just wrong. You can pretty much buy an original NES, a RetroUSB AVS, a Raspberry Pi, and a NES Mini altogether for cheaper than the Analog Nt.
thanks for letting us know what this thing was all about, It sure picks up fingerprints like no other. I still think I would go with the cheaper Retro AVS should my original NES crap out on me.
this was such an awesome video dude. I want to buy one of those now. thanks for showing us and a shout out to your buddy for giving it to you so you could share it with us.
For me, playing games on the Nt Mini is a better experience than on the AVS thanks to a couple of small things. One, it's top loading. It's so much easier to switch out carts on a toploader. There is a lot of wiggle room on the Nt Mini however, so if you accidentally bump your system, you may reset your game. Two, the 8bitdo receiver is powered even if the system is turned off. This means when I'm switching games or leaving the system off for a long period, my 8bitdo controller doesn't lose it's bluetooth connection. Maybe it was user error on my end, but I constantly had to re-establish my bluetooth connection using the AVS, even when I just switched out carts. All I really want now from the Nt Mini are the Game Genie codes built in like they are on the AVS. Someone make that happen.
What actually makes this system $500 besides how heavy it is? Can you plug it into a crt and play light gun games? What is the compatibility percentage vs a clone like the Super Retro Trio? Now I know the trio has problems playing Castlevania 3 but is close to 100 percent compatibility.
This is a hardware clone, and it supports most everything. Not sure if it's exactly 100%. It can be hooked into a crt, but I'm not sure about light gun support.
This is an awesome product but the price is a lot to ask for. I'd rather get the AVS for the price but if I had $500 to spend I'd get the NT- looks so fuckin sexy and the wireless gamepads a great addition
I agree, I'm not quite enough of a Nintendo fanboy to pay that much money. However,.....the jailbreak with all the 8bit consoles (and rumored 16bit coming) does definitely sweeten the deal. "The Lamborghini of NES clones" is perfect. All the reviews give props that it's the best one. I'm doing PSTV w/RetroArch to hold me over. Not a little kid-friendly interface but all the games run as good/better as anything else I've tried. I even found a scanline setting too!!! Yay! Take care good video.
Awesome review Shawn! I was hoping the 'mini' would be somewhat cheaper...nope! lol. I was shocked to see that Analogue got rid of their CMVS line. I was hoping to pick one up at some point with my tax return money :-/ They also got rid of the regular NT.
So, what's up with the graphical anomalies on Double Dragon II in this vid? I see play tests on that title on an Analouge that don't have the odd duplication of the level graphics on the top/bottom of the screen. Is that from bad cropping settings in system or the capture card used in this vid?
Double Dragon 3 was best game on the NES. It was garbage in the Arcade, and overall DD2 was a better game in the arcade, extremely fun, but it's a different game DD3 NES.
Famicom game worth importing? Famicom Wars! if you love Advance Wars like i do having FW is a must to complete the collection. The Japanese menus are a bit of a chore at first but you memorize them quickly. Story is pretty nonexistant.
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the Analogue NT Mini is a good investment for future resale purposes? The price is ridiculously high, but I might actually consider buying one if I knew I could get my money back out of it in the future. Not to make a profit, but just to have it for a while and still be able to sell it without taking a big loss if ever something better comes along.
ScoobTube I'm going to say no. All this will do is drive FPGA based clones down in price. When someone comes to market with something similar for less than this that does the same thing, it will just ignite a price war and a market flood. Stay far away if you're looking for good resale.
+DaneSaysStuff Thanks for the reply. I'm inclined to believe these things will hold their value, due to their limited supply and the increasing value of NES consoles on the secondhand market. I know clones are being made, but none have the build quality of this thing. Of course I could be wrong.
Why did you not test controller latency (this is where FPGAs shines against emulation), also I would say lon.tv has a better review, it's worth a watch.
hi RGT, great video, that's an amazing piece of kit. but it's like anything, you get what you pay for. I've just picked up a retron 5, haven't tried it yet, having way too much fun with my Genesis and cursed. 😀 👍 👍 👍
Yeah it's worth pointing out that 1080 scales better on 1080/4k TVs. Also you can install an unofficial firmware on this (made by the creator of this) to play other 8 bit consoles simulated on the FPGA.
It is not a clone system it is an FPGA based system. a clone system would be all in hardware. It is similar because the NES circuits are cloned in the FPGA but not the same as a clone system.. The only other thing that would compare to this right now is the Retro USB AVS.
okay good deal... The great thing about the FPGA is that is is programmable to clone exactly the original hardware functionality which is a far closer representation to the original than a hardware clone with better compatibility. This one is the current king on the block because it can do 1080p but the retro usb AVS is great too.
Update on this comment. The Analogue NT Mini has a jailbreak firmware available directly from Kevtris for free that allows the FPGA to be re-programmed on the fly to different 8-bit system cores. Kevtris is adding systems and is constantly developing the firmware to add cores.
Hi RGT 85.. Congrats for your NES game... it's a nice hack... responding to your question about good Famicom games... I would recommend you to check out Game Dave's RU-vid series called "Famicorner".. you will get to see very good gems on the Famicom that are actually language friendly... meaning... they don't require you to know japanese to play them... you might find a couple of games there that are actually worth buying... Thanks for all the work you do... we enjoy it a lot... hope your channel keeps growing... Regards...
Some other good Famicom games are one called Twin Bee by I believe Konami there was even a Famicom McDonald's game also Sky destroyer was another good Famicom game there was one this hacked version of the game Columns called Magic Jewelry there were two versions of it Magic Jewelry 1 and Magic Jewelry 2 they were both pretty much the same game just that Magic Jewelry 2 had a little more options than Magic Jewelry 1 and there also was a game called B-Wings for the Famicom and another game called Gyrodine and and also one called Flipull An Exiting Cube Game that one I believe was from Taito and one called Flappy (which may or may not have made it to North America) and I think Flipull made it to North America on Gameboy but I'm not sure if it made it on to the North American NES system though oh and also there is a good Famicom game called Challenger and in North America we got Arkanoid but there is a Famicom game called Arkanoid 2 and we got Dig Dug 2 Trouble In Paradise by Naco but the fort Dig Dug is only on Famicom and we got Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man in North America but there is a Famicom game called Pac-Land which I don't believe we got in North America so those are just a few Famicom games that I know of
One more game I think I forgot to mention in my last comment actually 2 this first one in North America we got a game called Mappyland but there was a Famicom game that was just called Mappy and this other one may have made it to North America but I'm not sure it was called Circus Charlie by Konami not sure who made Mappy and Mappyland though oh and a third game which also may or may not have made an appearance in North America was another Konami game called Road Fighter and this other game that I am like 99% sure never made a North American appearance was a game called Pooyan but it just so happens that for that Magic Jewelry game I told you about in the previous comment and for Pooyan and for Circus Charlie there are iPhone game apps for them I think there I there is one for Road Fighter as well but I am not 100% sure on that one there is even an iPhone game app for a game which again may or may not have made it to North America called Yie Ar Kung-Fu these game apps could be available on Android but I personally am an iPhone IOS user so I'm not sure if they are or not
