THE MOST EXPENSIVE SIMRACING PEDALS IN THE WORLD, WORTH IT? | Simucube ActivePedal First Impression

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First look at the Simucube Active Pedal. This is not the full review but I wanted to get my first impressions after using them for about 12 hours out!
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0:00 - Intro & Disclaimer
1:06 - Specs
1:53 - Software Setup
3:00 - Throttle Curves
6:28 - Throttle Damping
9:30 - Throttle Effects Overview
9:57 - Brake Curves
12:18 - How to "2 Stage"
14:26 - Brake Damping is insanely useful
16:15 - Brake Deadzones or Force Input Range
17:48 - Brake Effects Overview
18:36 - Are they too loud?
21:06 - On The Track with ACC 1.9
23:38 - On Track - Effects
27:40 - Early Verdict
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@cruffatinliveth Год назад

i love how nonchalantly you started the pedal rest position adjustment, i had to scratch my eyes and rewind when i saw the pedal moving in real time

@intothefuture1.618 Год назад

Mind blowing stuff, I love to see it. Props to Simucube for choosing to go their own way with the innovation.

@DENSU Год назад

Love to see your also hyped about these great Pedals. I also like that - absolute gamechanger

@danielmorad Год назад

You are too kind, sir 😂. Great video, yet again!

Год назад

Nice video! Keep up the good work!

@ag7468 Год назад

Thanks for first impressions. Some wishes: -Show, how they are mounted -Try them as a Clutch - Use them in iRacing -Can you use them in a flight Simulator as Rudder Pedals?

@imromano2448 Год назад

Oh shit, them as rudder pedals would be amazing. I bet it's possible with the hardware they have, probably not with the current software tho.

@ScottOmatic Год назад

+1 for Rudder Pedals. Would help justify the cost if they also doubled up as a high-end set of rudders, for those that dip both into sim racing and flight sims.

@Leo2dr Год назад

+1 for the rudders!

@-Ola-. Год назад

God dammit, i almost conviced myself i don’t want these pedals, and then you go come along and mention rudder….

@hcdiZee Год назад

Dan i have so much respect for you. Its been a 30 minutes Video and you have like 2 or 3 cuts in it. Great to see that you are able to give us your opinion. Thanks to simucube for making that happen!

@DanSuzuki Год назад

You just have to be good in hiding the cuts ... 😅

@hcdiZee Год назад

@@DanSuzuki ah i See. Than you did s great job.

@grayzedynamics Год назад

Great review as always. $5000 first gen. I'll wait a while. Thanks for the review.

@mr.episouls Год назад

Nice pedals. You will be unstoppable in the next All-Star race! 😎

@Luka-N Год назад

Would love to see a comparison of these vs VRS pedals with tactile transducers/rumble motors like the sim-3d’s added

@mannyfresh7065 3 месяца назад

Just ordered mine! The active + passive throttle + baseplate. Man simucube support is awesome. Baseplate is out of stock so I asked if they can just send the pedals over for now and they said yes!

@holgerm420 Год назад

First of all thanks for the first impressions video and kudos to your new pedals :) I'd like to know, if the simucube software offers a feature to export and import the configurations and if the configurations are human readable, so one could use version control like git to keep track on changes.

@liorlevi9296 Год назад

I've been watching this pedal since it came out, your review made me even more excited... I do understand the technicality of getting a signal (ABS) from the system and then activating the pedal servo, but I would like to know what is the feedback on NON ABS cars. In the real world, in a non abs car, once you brake then you feel a certain resistance in the pedal, and then when it locks up you would feel kind of a little drop of the pedal, is this true with the Simucube active pedal? Dan, could you give us your impressions of non abs cars? Also maybe some rain conditions testing. Great video btw!!

@Facarwi Год назад

id love this answered also

@rickywylde8137 Год назад

this is exactly the question I have

@wayne5ww 7 месяцев назад

From what I understand they can't support that in iRacing as iRacing does not send wheel rotation telemetry. I wish they did. For non ABS cars I am having a hard time seeing the benefit of this as a brake pedal.

@frankderks1150 2 месяца назад

There is a new effect in the software brake threshold vibration where you can set feedback as percentage of the game input. It's not giving feedback from a wheel lockup but it's handy to get feedback when you hit for example 75% in iRacing to feel when you approach 80%.

@falklude7787 Год назад

„This will make you quicker“… The holy grail for every sim gear company 😇

@bbogdanmircea Год назад

I don't see the purpose of a gas pedal with this system, but the brake for sure should be a game changer. Also the clutch makes sense as every car has a different clutch feeling I guess. But you should get around only with the brake and improve your times a lot if this is really supported properly in the simulator. They should offer profile for cars/games that you can optimize.

@DrR1pper Год назад

Damping adds an additional resistive force that scales linearly with the speed of the pedal travel. So you only feel/notice it when you try to change the pedal position quickly enough. Increasing the damping will increase the magnitude of the resistive force and bring on the starting point of noticeability of it at a lower pedal travel speed. Friction adds a constant level of resistive force whenever the pedal has non zero speed. It does not increase or decrease in strength depending on how quickly the pedal moves though (but that's what damping does) except if/when the pedal stops traveling and then it instantly drops to zero. So Friction is an understandably difficult one to notice how it is affecting things because of its binary nature.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

thanks, that sounds way more scientific than my "explanation" 😅

@Rhythmic_Hammer Год назад

Damn so until these become more mainstream, you can pay to win to some extent. Great first video Dan. Kinda glad they’re so expensive. Less iRacing drivers can afford them. 😅

@johnfitzgerald4456 Год назад

Owww, nice pedals, outta me price range but i love the socks. Where can I get me some? Love your videos Dan ❤

@Dub3God 10 месяцев назад

Same. I got rhe HE Ult. Probably get one of these for the brake. Sell the HE brake and keep the throttle

@leo.apollaro Год назад

Just thought about something. In the music production industry there are like mics that can emulate any other mic. This pedals could basically achieve the same emulating other pedals

@DanSuzuki Год назад

absolutely!

@dirtyjerz32 Год назад

Would love these, especially the brake, but like you Dan, my OCD would trigger if I had a Simucube brake and HE+ throttle.

@moshieracing Год назад

Thanks Dan for your first impression of the simucube pedals, i currently have IMSIM Talento pedals, if i was to purchase a simucube active pedal for the brake can i still use the Imsim throttle and clutch pedal? i know you mentioned that mismatching pedals is something that you would rather not think about :-) but would be great to know if it can and how it would be done.. thanks again.

@Tigerratcat 6 месяцев назад

The brake press/release damping seems so advantageous that whenever you hop into any sim without this exact setup, you perform poorly I hope Simucube can make this more affordable eventually!

@RealLagoose Год назад

Thank you as always. But I would never get just one and two at full price is just too much for me. Looks fantastic though

@f1o7x9 Год назад

Can we do back to back with this pedals and different pedals to see how much faster or slower you are

@Badnaj Год назад

Hello a big thank you for your work I have a question for you about iracing is that we smelled traction control I understood that it didn’t work on iracing Thanks to you

@joshuahill3618 Год назад

Would a bass shaker mounted to your pedal deck with ABS effect in SimHub or similar software give you the same ability to brake to 100% at high speeds and trail off as downforce is reduced?

@Rene_Bo Год назад

Yes it can.. Or rumble motors. Sim3d for example

@atIas-hugged Год назад

NEEEED

@one6xiii1 Год назад

Im a Simucube guy and was really hoping to get these pedals to pair with my cube, but unfortunately they priced me out of the market,, I'm now really hoping that Simagic copy them since they copied everything else and bring them to the market for the masses at an affordable price

@DJ_NR6 Год назад

How do they make the ABS useful for Iracing? SIm hub can communicate a single pulse based on the ABS flag but due to latency and a basic flag it is just not very useful.

@aviatoFPV Год назад

There is a DIY version in the works for us mere mortals. It's very simple hardware actually.

@DriftNick Год назад

Software is what makes the pedals great and is much harder to get right.

@happyracing3359 Год назад

Got to try them at Simracing Expo, and as everyone said there, they are REALLY amazing, but the price is too steap for a lot of people. Tried the Rally setup they had, and it was a lot of fun!

@gtifury310 Год назад

Sorry if I missed it. What's MSRP for these?

@Circletakesthejake Год назад

Do you get to keep these dan?

@Hooper- Год назад

These are gorgeous! Will these be your new daily pedals? Sorry if already asked & answered :) or possibly a dumb question lol

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Oh absolutely!

@Specialkaos 11 месяцев назад

Think I’m gonna just get one pedal i got the vrs pedals i just want a nice brake pedal

@RingoFreakingStarr Год назад

11:40 This is what initially got me really excited for these petals. I've always wanted a longer traveling brake pedal but you really cannot do that with traditional sim racing pedals because you are constrained to the way they are all constructed and how you get the input/outputs out of the pedal. If you want a stiffer pedal you almost always get less travel out of it. I would 100% get one of these pedals just to have a brake set up the way I want it but it's just too much for me to be ok putting down on a hobby item. Maybe in the future.

@amigoz3201 Год назад

What nonsenses you speak? You can not get big travel on traditional simpedals? You wanna have brake travel from Miami to Paris?:))) just get VRS or Meca hydraulics and forget this shit from simucube, watch some videos from guys those have problems with this pedal and it is not what they like! Damn those stupid peoples nowadays are killing me, huminity is getting stupid day by day 😂

@DanSuzuki Год назад

I tested a lot of pedals, typically if you want really high forces on the brake you need to go shorter travel, especially on elastomer pedals otherwise you will break the elastomers. so I'd say on most pedals you can just do miami to lisbon only.

@_xndrzt Год назад

hey dan, unrelated question : are you still using your td paddock profile for acc 1.9? big thanks

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Yep, ffb didn’t really change

@MondoRockable Год назад

You said other pedals could be set up to give you a similar feel, but the convenience of setting up the Simucubes electronically is of major benefit to you. What other pedals provide a similar feel?

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Well, you can pretty much make the active pedals behave like any pedalset

@wullxz Год назад

Can you set the accelerator pedal up in a way that it feels like there's a kickdown resistance in the end (like in automatic cars)?

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Yes, you can basically do whatever you want

@wullxz Год назад

@@DanSuzuki I just wonder how "good" that feeling would be because I imagine replicating that "clicky" feeling of a kickdown implementation would still be hard to nail? I know it has no use in ACC or iRacing but I'd still like to know how "good" you could implement that (for shits and giggles)

@zzmadd Год назад

Is the ABS feeling on the brake comparable to a transducer under the pedal plate or so? Thanks...

@DanSuzuki Год назад

it is more noticable, but a tranducer controlled with simhub and abs signal goes in the same direction definitely.

@srt5490 Год назад

Are we still waiting to see the durability of this pedal set? I would love to have them, but the price is too damaging (unless you are a youtube or pro racer). Excellent video.

@mannyfresh7065 3 месяца назад

I would think these come with 5 year warranty like their other products

@user-lf9oc9nu2v Год назад

wow

@MikkoRantalainen Год назад

Another reviewer commented that the pedal input felt more like actual hydraulic pedal when he added 50% friction smoothing and 10-30% friction. Do you feel similar effect?

@DanSuzuki Год назад

The friction feels absolutely horrible and I can highly recommend to not touch that setting 😅

@MikkoRantalainen Год назад

@@DanSuzuki Thanks for the feedback. It sure seems that there's a lot of potential for future improvements.

@whitepatch8897 Год назад

are the graphics settings Dan is using on ACC online somewhere ?

@DanSuzuki Год назад

it's just the epic preset with volumetric fog disabled

@andrewfarquhar9083 Год назад

Can u heal and toe please?

@youngyingyang Год назад

I hope Moza is working on a much cheaper version :)

@jesusada Год назад

Damping for brake release seems like cheating, Nice video!

@1027hristo Год назад

But that piece on the pedals is in the high position, while in the picture it is in the low position?

@DanSuzuki Год назад

yes, should be in the high ... but that only really affects the displayed values, i'll fix it for the review 😅

@finnlbr Год назад

Dan sitting there, casually pushing 150kg with one leg :D

@CooterBrownRossi Год назад

Damn. ACC, iRacing, RF2 etc..none of them send an ABS signal through the actual pedals, do they? You still have to set the point at which vibration comes through the pedals.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

IRacing and ACC ABS works well, haven’t tried any other game yet

@OhItsThat Год назад

I really wanna know how these pedals are for driving something other then gt3 cars.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Come on, we are simracers, we only drive GT3 cars :P

@OhItsThat Год назад

@@DanSuzuki Pretty much Dan. I’d say obsessed.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

did GTE today, so no effects there, feels like a well dialed in "conventional" pedalset

@zeroskillsJussi Год назад

Love the product but the price is way out there to be any way possible to justify the investment... 4450 for two...

@stoops417 Год назад

Just a quick 26 min!

@chrisc3825 Год назад

Seems like a hack almost. Can these pedals actually pull back when you hit TC and ABS? And then they smooth out when you lift as well?This is pretty crazy.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Automatically? Haha no 😅

@chrisc3825 Год назад

@@DanSuzuki lol...I guess we'll have to wait until a dev throws something up on Git to make that a reality...awesome pedals though. How bout I buy a pair and get free coaching with them ;)

@DDuck777 Год назад

Question: Dan is the throttle as smooth as other leading pedals or can you feel the worm gear/motor travelling up and down the shaft.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

You can slightly feel it, especially if you run no damping, but at no point it’s really “distracting”

@DDuck777 Год назад

@@DanSuzuki Thanks Dan that was my concern about the throttle.

@empii911 Год назад

I wish you could test them out beforehand. Its so much money you shouldn't have to buy them straightaway without testing them beforehand.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

Oh absolutely, would be awesome if there were more "simracing stores" around the world.

@johnnybanana8004 Год назад

i was hoping so hard that these would be around 1200-1500 per padle, saddly now i need to sell my liver to get these😂

@BobbyDuwitz Год назад

If you’re selling your liver you might not even get a chance to try your new pedals

@derodge Год назад

Sounds great. But, what happens when they break? My Heusinkveld sprint pedals , I can fix myself with easy to acquire parts. To me it just seems like over-engineering and does not really add that much to the immersion for the cost . Pedals need to be mechanical as much as possible.

@vt6020 Год назад

I agree that it’s over-engineered for the average sim racer, but I can see how they could be useful for someone who races irl, and wants to replicate the car they’re driving.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

with this mindset we would still be using wheels without direct drive 😅 or probably drive with a keyboard or joystick 🤪

@vt6020 Год назад

I think these are game changers, for sure. The ability to make changes to the pedal feel, position etc. with a mouse click is insanely useful. The downside is that they are way beyond the budget of most sim racers. Hopefully this technology will be available at less cost in the future, similarly to how direct drive technology is now more available to more people.

@jeffmattel7867 Год назад

Cant afford it? Got it!

@danielmalka8884 Год назад

Thank you for the video but I think that it is just heusinkveld sprint with rumble motors… maybe it’s because I’m broke and can’t afford moza r5

@regibson23 Год назад

17:25 this acts more like a real brake pedal. Real brakes don't have a hard stop unless they've gone to the floor.

@DanSuzuki Год назад

True, but real doesn’t have to mean better 😊

@seb-kun Год назад

MY WALLET DO NOT THANK YOU. But thanks for the video.

@baccattack Год назад

The danger of these is that you'll be forever chasing nirvana instead of actually driving. And PC gaming is bad enough for this already 😅

@bmwM3M5M6 Год назад

@baccattack Man you take the words out of my mouth 😅 Indeed I’m more busy with settings: DD, pedals, windows 11, Nvidia, graphic settings, game settings, this setting that setting and at the end I look and realize I didn’t race. And then it’s becoming frustrating. Also it depends on which person you are, I’m like: I want to take the best performance from everything I have and do BUT sometimes this can be a good character and Sometimes don’t caring anything and just do whatever it is, is the best way 😀

@srt5490 3 месяца назад

Yeah, I found myself lost in adjusting and setting up the Buttkickers (4 minis) and (4 large). No regrets, just saying you are right, you will spend a great deal of time fiddling with settings. Just to put it in perspective, it may take a month or two to experiment, another two months to get the feel of it and possibly two or three months of fine tuning. This is the reality of a product as such.