The Most Hated Cards in Commander | EDH | Saltiest Cards | Magic the Gathering 

Nice deck tech, looks like a really fun deck.

Obviously the most salty card in commander is Island, when someone plays it everyone just whines

I like to recur Kindslaver, so I can replace irritating opponents with nicer ones.

I've only played one game in which a Theives' Auction was resolved, and I will never forget how funny it was. I was at very low life, and the guy directly after that turn decided to kill me with my own commander... to which, I said "okay" and began picking up all my lands... which were on his board.

I love how only like two cards ready see play in cedh and everything else just drops off because there's so much free counter play to them

Lowered playing speed to 0,75. Nice and calm speech, and he sounds a bit tipsy.

Sensei's Divining Top because a lot of players don't know how to use it and it makes the game much longer.

Something that causes a bit of salt but a ton of laughs is watching a beatdown player take the game. There's always at least 1, usually 2 combo players that don't have a problem losing to an infinite combo but heaven forbid they take a few hits from 8+ power creatures.

As someone who plays on MTGO often, Sensei's Divining Top is my absolute most hated card. The person who plays Top is often 30 minutes into their clock when everyone else is hardly past 5. I get that it's powerful but man it slows down games to much, constantly waiting for the Top player to pass priority, and lorde forbid that they actually activate it!

"I play Cabal Coffers." "Wake of Destruction, naming Swamp."

If it gives you extra turns its hated

I remember when I use to play slivers and got targeted 100%

This is why I'm reluctant to play commander sometimes. When playing there's always something to complain about for some people. There are mean things to do in this game but when it comes to playing against people with different decks we have to accept the fact that they can be hard to beat.

Void Winnower. I’m the only one in my pay group who has one, and even I understand how annoying it is to play against.

My playgroup HATES the mill archetype. Even when I am not even attempting to mill for the kill, people just hate seeing cards end up in the graveyard. It is kinda like people hate their creature becoming counter vs killed. At least if someone murders it, it lived, but it just getting countered or ending up in the graveyard without being played just hurts something extra.

In this video: Jim's favourite cards in Commander. - Jim

I love land destruction. Especially when you stick stax pieces on top of that

I would say the the throughline on these cards is that most of them, if left unanswered, effectively end the game--but many don't, in fact, end the game on the spot. If you don't like to/know when to concede, you won't like playing against most of these. Well, that, plus cards that can allow a less sophisticated third actor to hand your opponent a win (e.g. Rhystic Study)

With the land destruction, I do run some of it. Green is very strong in EDH, and one of the main reasons is that greens main game plan (land ramp) isn’t punished. Most other colours do have hate for their main themes but because so many people hold lands as a sacred resource, green gets a free pass for doing a lot of broken stuff. I’m quite happy to have some land hate especially if our playgroup is going green heavy.

You know which card grind mi gears? Wayfarer's Bauble... its so cheap and goes in any budget deck... disgusting. On a serious note i hate Stasis... a lot... that goddamn clown...

Anything that says infect on it, (Although i like infect, only when im playing it, not when anybody else is, because when i play it, i build it wrong) 😂😂

I'm not adverse to MLD as long as they have a follow up to it. Don't destroy everyone's lands then pass the turn, you better win the game.

Surprised Nekusar wasn't on the list of commanders that make people salty.

Not sure if this will be read... "Rising Water" is a blue enchantment (3U) that reads: " Lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps. At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps one land that player controls." If you want a white version on a stick: "Holori, Dust Drinker" (2WW) does the same on a 2/2 body. This slows everybody down if you don't have a way to untap all your lands with other means, like "Prophet of Kruphix", "Wilderness Reclamation", "bear umbra", "Magus of the Candelabra" or "Nature's Will". You could even make all lands creatures and add an "Intruder Alert"

Decree of annihilation and teferi's protection combo. Now that's going to make people mad.

Grave Betrayal, whenever a creature dies, on the next end step it enters on your battlefield under your control with an additional +1/+1 counter. If you can get it out fast, and get some good quick kill spells, you can just steal everyones things and I love it

Chaos is Too Chaotic Category *Timesifter not shown* Timesifter: Am I a joke to you?

Normally I'd say island, but forests are actually degenerate

One of the guys who goes to one of my locals is basically salt embodiment. One of his favorite decks is Empress Galina, and he gets mad when we won't let him take our commanders, either through shroud, or outright scooping when he tries. If he gets salty enough, he pulls out a highly competitive deck as a sort of "vengeance for not letting him play how he wants". We now make it a goal in our locals to ensure he does not get to play in any game he's in, he leads to such unfun games.

Always great to get some new recommendations for cards to use

Land destruction... Friends don't let friends play land destruction. That said, that is why I play artifacts... But if they blow everything, they're kinda a lost cause... As for Back to Basics, teaches players the power of basic lands. Zen Triplets I'm ok with, as long as I'm playing my clone tribal deck. And because it is clone tribal, whatever they can do, I can probably do better. Atraxa, she is #2 on my kill-on-sight list.

I played Iona once (when she was still legal to play), never again, my playgroup hated me for few weeks for that, no fun was had because I literally stopped 3 players for playing because I choose optimally and banned black color.

In my last game I had Mystic Remora out (but I always try and ensure that I get Solemnity out ASAP after it 😃) I also had Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study...so it was...do you want to pay 4 and 2 and 1...for some reason the game turned into archenemy...😆

A friend of mine had a blue/black "your deck is mine" deck with lasav mastermind as the cmdr. Anything you played to tried to do was either countered or stolen. NO ONE would play against that deck, and the only way I could even attempt to fight it was with geist of st traft cmdr damage, and that only worked a couple times. He decided to eventually scrap the deck cuz no one would fight it. I am a little surprised though that he didnt put kalia of the vast on the list. In my circles, if anyone pulled her out as their commander, they were enemy #1.

I'm still really just a noob with MTG but I thought this video would be a laugh, interesting to see what mad stuff is out there... Yeah I use Jokulhaups, did not expect anything I use to even get mentioned lol

I like how they hit practically every card that I’ve ever seen people groan at in commander. There is not a single card on this list that I have not seen used to murder a game. And with the cards in commander always expanding, there’s always a new annoying commander card that comes out.

Our group likes to do decks with limits on deck price. Sometimes well do a 200$ deck limit and we'll get that guy with loads of 50$ cards "but it's in damaged condition dude" but most of the time it really spices up the weekends

Mine is Thieving Amalgam. Its a pain in the neck in any game I play, but what really took the cake was when Thieving Amalgam was combo'd with an ability to manifest ALL of the creatures in my graveyard. So rather than being killed traditionally, my friend took 8 creatures and played them as morphs, those died to board wipe, I took 16 damage and he gained 16 life, he then recovered the card from graveyard, played it *again,* another board wipe from a different player trying to survive dealt 16 more damage and killed me. 😒 I don't hold grudges between games, but as soon as Thieving Amalgam or Smothering Tide comes out, all bets are off hahaha

My sins, by category Stax and Tax: 1. Stasis: I did that once. In Gaybros group hug. There was apparently a betting pool on howl long it'd take me to put Stasis in there. Someone one a draft set. 2. Winter Orb: In Urza. Everybody hates it, especially when I tap it to float a blue at the end of the round. 3. Static Orb: In Urza. Ditto. 4. Back to Basics: In Urza. Unfair advantage: 1. Elesh Norn: Yep. In Gaybros Hugs 2. Cyclonic Rift: Every Blue deck I've built. 3. Aura Shards: Gaybros had some enchantment themes at one point. Aura Shards was nice there. 4. Consecrated Sphinx: I ran it in Baral. And then one time I managed to Windfall with it down. Woof. 5. Seedborn Muse: Gaybros Hugs. 6. Avacyn, Angel of Hope: Gaybros Hugs. Rules changes: I have a Gaddock Teeg, but I've never used it. I hosted a draft, and it was in the box. Chaos: 1. Warp World. It and its cousin The Great Aurora appeared in Gaybros. Buying your wins: 1. The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale: It's in Urza. Elves players hate it. 2. Gaea's Cradle: It's in Ayula. It's what I pull out for a casual game. Oddly, while Cradle is very good in this deck, this deck isn't really doing much ridiculous bullshit with it. 3. Mana Drain: It's in Urza. Players with Ulamog in their libraries hate it. 4. Ugin, the Spirit Dragon: I've run him in Baral and Gaybros. I have a playset from drafting a ton of Fate Reforged. I win: 1. Omniscience: in Gaybros 2. Blightsteel Colossus: I did that in a Baral variant. 3. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre found itself in my Gaybros deck, but I wasn't intending to cast it. It was anti-mill tech, but it came out the moment I Oath of Druids'ed into it. In "That's just annoying": 1. Rhystic Study: Did you pay the 1? (I've put it in every Blue deck I've ever built.) Annoying Commanders: 1. I've actually played the Atraxa precon. I bought it when it came out. But I've kept it stock all these years.

Oh boy, had a deck that I feel bad about looking back. One of my first commander decks when the format was relatively new was a Jhoira of the Ghitu deck. Gameplan was suspending a giant eldrazi and then using extra turn spells to tick the time counters faster. As soon as a beefy creature was suspended, you would use the land destruction and board wipes to buy time before the big boys dropped. It was horrifying. As soon as I started playing it I realized the salt was warranted. The playstyle just didn't fit the casual nature of my playgroup and the format in general.

I mostly agree with this list. Though I also feel that people just tend to complain about everything. Yes, setting up a bunch of cards that freeze/lock out the game are worthy of making people salty. But then there are other cards listed here that people really just need to learn how to play around. By no means am I some skilled player, (i'm actually pretty mediocre) but I'm not going to get salty over someone having expensive cards or mildly annoying effects. People get so upset about others using proxie cards, but then if they are gonna still be upset about expensive cards either way, then really all it is is them being jealous they cannot afford the better versions of things themselves. Avacyn is annoying, not salty. A simple and budget cost card like Path to Exile deals with her. Mass removal such as Merciless Eviction deals with her. Forced sacrifice deals with her. She is really strong no doubt, but she has many openings. Other than stax and land destruction effects, I feel that everything else is tolerable in reasonable amounts. Again, I just think players like to find something to complain about.

watching this, like every card is in a deck of a friend or myself. yes, one friend even has a foreign tabernacle he paid $350 for. didn't know the level of toxicity that exudes from our table. I used to run atraxa but have toned down the hate a bunch. I now run Rashmi for some fun double casts. rhystic study is in that deck, along with time stretch, ulamog, and a few others in this video. My atraxa was AIDS compared to Rashmi though.

I knew a guy with a tabernacle winter orb deck, and since it is taboo to use land removal, nobody could deal with it and it usually ended with everybody conceding and requesting that he doesn't play that deck in the next game. His deck had no creatures and would kill everybody with enchantments and artifacts while they could do literally nothing but draw and discard on their turn.

I pulled a Vorinclex from a GameStop's only IMA booster not knowing how much of a threat it can be. I put it in my deck, mainly focused on the mana doubling aspect while thinking "Eh, someone always has a method of removal, this can't be bad." I was wrong about that in our PG's meta. Whenever I summon Vorinclex, the table goes on full alert to Avengers Level Threat and jumps me lol

5:51 I just got the last cards for your Emrakul, the Promised End deck in the mail today

I made a fun killing combo with smothering tithe and Jace beleren, Jace's uptick ability makes everyone draw a card, which means all but me has to either pay 2 mana of any color or give a treasure token for a extra mana.

My top: 1: Ciclonic rift (nearly obligatory in any blue deck, and is not cheap) 2: Flash (turn one cheap win whithout any chance of interaction some times) 3: gaia cradle (way to mandatory in any green deck for its price) 4: winter orb, stasis, back to basics (if you are going to make ma play a 1:30 hour game untaping 1 land per turn, just infinite comboo and win me on the spot, its just boring, and for 2-3 mana, sometimes you cant interact with it) 5: thieves auction, hall of gemstone, reality twist, naked singularity, scrambleverse (20 min resolving one spell and you didnt advanced the game in any way, is just a waste of time) 6: mindslaver (a card designed to target just one player, making the others dont targeting it, and you and up with no window to respond, and you cant surrender at sorcery speed, making it rude to not leaving a game you havent played in 9 turns...)

Thanks a lot for this guide! It's time to build my new "fun't" deck!

I was always hated at my store, because my Golos deck is just named Answers.dec and had a very hard time losing. However, everyone enjoys my new Yidris deck, that just basically throws everything, everywhere. With Scrambleverse, Warp World, Possiblity storm, and the list goes on.

I don't hate cards and I love that EDH gives people different ways to play. People just need to chill and think "Sometimes you win some and sometimes you lose some". Oh and yes, I play most of the cards on the list.

Liquid Metal Coating and Splinter. When going up against a mono colored deck, use Liquid Metal Coating to turn one of their forests (or whatever) into an artifact as well as still being a forest. Then, use Splinter to remove target "artifact" from the game, then also search their hand, graveyard, and library to remove all other cards of the same name (Forest!) from the game. Only lands left are the ones on their battlefield. 😈

Ive seen that "aminatou the fateshifter" is an instant target as soon as shes played. Her ultimate is basically a chaos effect.

Can you please do a Scion of the Ur Dragon deck tech? I've been wanting to make one without spending too much and you are my favorite budget channel 🙂

Hey I just played Armageddon today! It's fine as long as you have a clear gameplan with it.

Last weekend one of my friends got a Dragon Mage into play in a three-player game. I had blockers, but the third player did not. So he just swung with it at her every turn, so we had to dump our hand every turn. Possibly the most frustrating game I've played in a long time, combined with his inordinate amount of removal spells to immediately nullify every creature I played, it was a severe pain in the ass and the game took almost two hours. I still won, but it was one of those wins where you are just so miserable you can't enjoy it.

I’m so proud I build a very casual Narset and no one’s complaining about it :D every card in the deck has to refer to a planeswalker either in their name or their flavortext :) and I’m looking to collect every version of Narset to put in it :D

Rule no.1 when sitting against a blue player, utilize land destruction cards (they actually all have the unwritten ability "at least one player must cast a counterspell in their hand if possible") then your free to cast your important spells.

Play Stasis + Wilderness Reclamation + Kismet + Black Vice for the ultimate salt generation. Only you are allowed to untap lands, all permanents your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped, and Black Vice slowly pings them down as their hand fills up with spells they cannot play (or they just give up).

$2000 for tabernacle! I'm pretty sure I have one. Can't wait to get home and double check.

Vorinclex was my favorite card back in the day when I played magic. I played a deck that was based around stupid mana generation and huge creatures that were hard to stop if the opponent anything other than control decks. There were only 4 non-permanents in that deck: Genesis wave and a card that I do not remember, but also did something similar. I remember in one game where I got Vorinclex out on turn 2, which basicly ended the game right then and there, because most people where still generating 2-3 mana a turn. The salt that day was real.

Possibility Storm is probably on my list. It essentially protects itself from removal, and totally throws a wrench in any plans you may have had in your hand.

I have a Sydri, Galvanic Genius deck. If you use her ability with mycocynth lattice, it allows you to destroy a land for 1 colourless Mana.

I got to say thank you for all the red and black land destruction I'll be definitely building a good deck here soon and it's not going to be EDH just regular 60 card deck

There is a finite amount of fun to be had in any game of magic. Some people just want to have all of the fun. Also. How did Mill not make this list? Especially Mill for no reason (like a player playing Sphinx's Tutelage and Altar of the Brood in Tatyova, Benthic Druid)? If you're playing Chainer, Dementia Master? Go for it. You're fueling your game plan. But don't mill me just to mill me. And yes I mean you, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger...

Power surge+ mana barbs + urzas armor Trestideciphobia + tree of perdition Havoc festival + wound reflection Darksteel plate + pariaha's sheild + hornets nest Razor swine + goblin tunneler 😈😈😈

When the "well that's just annoying" category came up I immediately said "Rhystic Study" I genuinely hate that card. Every time anything happens "are you paying the one?"

I was a little surprised to not see Cyclonic rift, and Exquisite blood/Sanguine bond on this list.

The quote at the bottom of Obliterate is hilarious. :)

The same thing I said when I read the salt list on EDHREC... What? No PERPLEXING CHIMERA??

I usually say a mix of "study trigger" "May I draw" "paying the extra." This has lowered the annoyance for people with Rhystic Study. Saying "May I Draw" sometimes makes players say "I'm not going to pay for any of those." So free value

I think Render Silent is a good candidate because it just makes it so the one spell a player is able to cast that turn is countered and then they can't play. In 1v1's that's almost a time warp for WUU

Huh. I kinda expected Meren of Clan Nel Toth to appear on this list. It was the second EDH Deck i built and i still think, that she is one of the most busted Commanders for all Graveyard Decks XD

I find comboing off from nowhere annoying, particularly when it comes at the end of a 20 minute turn, but the thing that bristles most is someone thumbing through my library to take my best creature - even more so if they've just been munching on a hot dog, or chips and have greasy fingers!

It just happened yesterday. This guy was using Augustin (BW Token control) played Omniscience followed by Smokestacks followed and armageddon... everyone else was pissed.

Favorite most hated card, also leads to alot of thats a thing? Divine Intervention.

I literally only run Sorin for his +2, I have only used the minus once because I was dead next turn, so I tried to help another player.

One of my friends once made a commander deck using narset and almost every extra turn card. It was gross and no one played against it

Amazing! love this video. thanx man!

I get alot of hate for my Nekusar deck that plays alot of land destruction. My Yidris deck which is a chaos build. And my Yarok deck, which is the Commander's Quarters deck with upgrades, because it combos off quickly and consistently. Also seriously Mitch my table hates that deck that you put together and I couldn't be happier with it!

When I cast Shared Fate(with my golos deck), I either hear groans or "what do this card card do?" . But to really get it going,you need to also play possibility storm. Or the good old Sire of Insanity+ Omen Machine.

I used to have a Kambal deck and they HATED IT. Whenever I cast Kambal, my opponents tried to kill him on sight no matter who I played with. There was a game where I had to cast him 6 times. That's 15 mana, which is a hard thing to perform in Orzhov.

I play grand arbiter and man I get focused. I have humility, rustic study, winter orb, static orb, torpor orb, and a lot of rule cards. One you missed was kismet or the blue version where it makes all artifacts, creatures and land come into play tapped. I think you also missed the one card where you reveal the top card of your library and who ever has the high mana cost that person takes a turn.

My dad has a hydra deck and DESPISES when I have Cytoplast Manipulator out

I can attest to that with Zur! I built an upgraded version of the budget one commanders quarters put on... and it definitely makes people salty. But to circumvent that saltiness, I only play it against really competitive commanders like Urza and so forth. I dont play that one against my casual group of buds. For now... Zur is sitting in my backpack collecting power. 😈

thank you for a list of cards i need to obtain :D

I'm surprised you didn't mention Cleansing from The Dark in the land destruction section. I run it in my Oloro deck as a way to slow down a huge ramp deck or as a way to deal some damage to get my infinite combo going. WWW Sorcery "For each land, destroy that land unless any player pays 1 life."

I got a mono black deck so I used to hate Iona, but that has been resolved already :).

Playing a commander like Krenko Mob boss and something like "cursed totem" or "Damping Matrix" hits the board and you just go "well, there goes my game plan" and you just sit there and twiddle your thumbs while you wait for someone to remove it because you can't really do anything.

I run sunder in my landfall deck and return all of my lands to play with wren and seven. That usually gives me enough landfall triggers to win or enough mana from lotus cobra or tirelees provisioner to drop a killer torment of hailfire. Because it usually wins the game people arent super salty but if it doesnt end up winning the game people get mad.

I once played a two-headed giant game with a token deck that ran ghave and aura shards, teamed with an artifact deck that ran mycosynth lattice. I was able to ramp enough mana to keep making tokens until neither of the opposing players had any manabase to speak of. Were they salty? You bet. Were we happy? Oh yeah.

Anytime I see isochron scepter make it onto the field, I'm prepared for the game to be over.

Me, my brother and my dad were playing commander precons. My brother got board nuked three times and angrily backed out. It was amazing.

Back to basics stopped me cold last night. I had no basic lands and the next basic land was like 10 turns away.

Rhystic Study and Smothering Tithe also fall into the "buying your wins" category. Rhystic Study is a COMMON for God's sake! It shouldn't be so expensive, but it is!

One of my friends runs K'rrik. I am mercilessly against him when he pulls out that deck. And artifact decks when I see the Saheeli, the Gifted and Metalworker.

I know there's one card in Arena that makes me salty with their Brawl mode (the closest officially sanctioned mode to Commander, but limited to online-only platforms), and that's Field of the Dead. Because everyone *loves* facing decks whose primary goal is to play a bunch of lands every turn and flood the field with 2/2 zombies... >.

I play EDH with a group of friends and I made a dimir ninja deck that focuses on bouncing, etb/ltb effects, and battlefield control for handling creatures. One of my friends decided to make a jund aristocrats deck with a Korvold commander which is usually manageable most of the time until he brings out either Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos. If i haven't managed to counter it or gotten a lucky snag with Fallen Shinobi or Gonti then I'm fucked cos I won't be able to keep any creatures out long enough to get to my next turn. Being dimir i don't have much in the way of enchantment removal, but luckily everyone else absolutely hates those cards too and they often do have ways to get rid of it. By then he'll have a 15/15 Korvold anyways and about 6 other creatures. Oh, and he also has some graveyard retrieval that can target any card type, so it's not hard to guess what he'll be bringing back with that

The most annoying commander I ram against was a king commander that was never put onto the field because it gained the player 2 life per turn during upkeep when it was in the command zone

Confusion in the Ranks draws out all the salt from everyone I've ever played my Norin deck against

9:25 That's funny. I got an Ugin in a booster pack. No joke.