Much respect to you Jonny! I think that the lack of rotation is what people don't like. Because it was caught in less rotation than a primo (less than 1/4 of a full rotation) I don't think personally that counts as anything other than a nuance or stylish way to do a shuv. Kinda like if you catch a kickflip primo but hold on and land it's not a kickflip under flip.. just a crazy kickflip. Still big up to both Sean and Shawn for continuing the battle out of respect for each other, the community and skateboarding as a whole.
I think a treflip looks a lot better but variable are much easier to learn. When you first learn them, treflips are actually quite complicated to get down consistently. But then once you have them down for a few weeks, they become easy.
kickflip shuvs deserve all the scorn they get but i dont think 180 pressures were ever uncool - they feel great! keep the great videos coming bruz, although i think you spelled benihana wrong.
Mostly the people that hate On a particular skate trick 85% of them can't do it themselves Or they either don't skate Period! I seem them dudes sitting around at the skate park on their boards, and only skate when everyone leaves. Let's all skate Enjoy life Spread ✌☮ and Love ❤
@@praiseYahshua822 I'm not saying anyone should "talk shit". Comments and critizism doesn't have to be talking shit but sometimes people take offence and reply with that argument instead of hearing it for what it is. So that was my point, talking shit to bring people down is never cool.
This trick is kind of like a reverse hospital flip. With a hospital flip, you flip it first, then wrap it with your foot. With this trick, you wrap it first, then flip it. Reverse hospital flip.
So funny if you do this as your first trick in BATB. Imho whoever wins between you and Jamie Griffin will probably go on to win BATB. Its going to be a flip trick to late flip bonanza. Good luck to you both PS you should do some videos with Jamie and the hop King crew, would be great to watch.
If you prevent the board from flipping a direction, its a cancel... if the board has flipped 50 % of a flip and you then quickly flip it back touching the underside (non griptape side), its a underflip... just my opinion. Found a slow mo example: at 00.50 or so ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ja4AWxJNvd4.html
I hate kickflips in general... Been skating for like 7 years but still can't land it. Can land a double or a tripple one though. Or even Oldschool Kickflip but never the normal one. Just doesn't feel right. Heelflip on the other hand, I love! Learned it in about 40 minutes and landing a clean one 8/10 tries.
The only reason it was the most hated trick is how it was presented. Nobody had ever seen it before so as a "death blow" it was in bad form. And his character didn't distract from that bad form. So everyone called it a shuvit to dismiss his victory in that match. It looks kind of fun I'll take a crack at it..
@@justterrell956 I agree, but I gotta wonder, how many of their circus tricks can they do consistently first try. That’s all that really matters in a game of skate.
Back when i started Skating in the mid 90's, skating was about hanging out with your buddies and trying not to smash your shins (or your nuts) with your deck. We loved watching skate videos and pretty much worshipped anyone who could Ollie over 3 decks let alone consistently landing spin tricks. The idea that there are people hating on another skater is mind boggling to me, let along hating someone for landing any kind of trick. Calling a trick a low-blow in a game of skate is just moronic. If you can land a trick and your opponent can't why wouldn't you use it?
@@hllymchll couldnt agree more. Cody Cepeda did a lot of pressure flips and it was fine because everything seemed legit. This other guy had and attitude an even lied about the impossible.
Tbh I think it’s an online thing more than anything, and the trend is mostly spread through newer skaters who want to be in on the joke. At my local skatepark it’s not like that at all
This was very well explained and demonstrated! I feel like the editing played a big part in the waterfall of hate in that BATB match. He definitely showed some poor sportsmanship, but who knows if it was genuine or by omission.
I accidentally landed this trick already back in 2004, when I was exploring impossible variations, and then I kept landing it consistently, called it Half Impossible. It's kind of an odd trick, but not too difficult and fun to do! 🙂
I love this video, thanks for the topic. But more importantly, thank you for the message - It’s so easy to attack people on the Internet, but we should all be doing our part to spread more love than hate. ❤️
@@Siggvard i have a friend that does many pressure flips variations and that is one of them. We always call it like that. Although we are not sure of that's the correct name. But hey, who cares.
@@sterlingburnsides9712 in my opinion, it's the most correct name cause all i see is a pressure inward but in the middle of the flip motion, you cancel with the foot. My friend does it like that
Varial flips are legit. I think people don't like them because they are difficult for people who only know how to whip tre flips. I don't know why anyone wouldn't respect them. Guess I'm truly an old man.
whys everyone stealing this trick from me and not giving any credit? im literally the first user on youtube to upload this trick... i called it a half impossible when i uploaded it as an NBD years and years ago
How about calling it a halfpossible? Or an Improbable, a semi-possible? Desite the hate and controversy (completely blown out of proportions and settled, btw) I really liked that trick
I always looked at tricks in terms of the net result. Does it flip? Does it spin? And so on. For example an under flip like what Rodney used to do is a half flip and then a full one and a half rotation under flip. If it was only the half flip back I would just consider it an Ollie in a game of skate. Using the same logic, this trick would be a shuvit. A different looking one for sure but in the end it just rotates 180 degrees horizontally making it a shuvit/pop-shuvit. Just my $0.02
what'll jonny's death blow be? i mean, he's got such a large bag of tricks. maybe a 360 triple flip?? he did just do a video revisiting that trick, but he can't seem to do it very consistently... idk man, it could literally be almost anything
whatever the trick is ... its for sure not a pressure underflip xD like cancelled pressure or cancelled impossible at best, dependin on how you scoop it at beginning
dario's version looks so much better than seans actually has the pressure flip motion rather than an accidental pressure motion from a popshuv. also its really enjoyable watching u n dario just mess around you two are a great duo
if you pull a trick like that you need to be clean. On the other way your opponent gonna make it shitty has hell. it's like a 360 with no pivot and a 180 with an hardcore pivot. so in theory it was a just a fail at the berrics.
It's so funny to me how trucks "aren't allowed" 😂 all it screams is lacking experience 😂😂😂 I wouldn't dare tell someone he's not allowed to do a trick, to meet all it means is " I have to learn it"
180 impossible/180 monster flip/impossible monster flip/Davis flip (Also, skateboarding is about having fun, all tricks are tricks, why the fuck do people hate so god damn much? Just have fun with it and don't take it so fucking seriously!) 7:03 Listen to the man himself! And the reason it's not a shuv-it is because it would be like calling a tre flip revert a varial flip. Those two tricks are completely different, same thing with the "pressure flip under flip," and the shuv-it.
Wishing you all the best in BATB! I obviously want Jonny to go the distance, but I also want him to push the standard. Let's say he wins with his bag of tricks that nobody else does.. There will be people who will give him flack. But this year TEN of the biggest FLAT GROUND tournament. Jonny is one of the very few who could innovate and push the limit of what games of skate could be. Sweep their legs and leave them in the dust Jonny!
_exsctly_ true... what happened at the BATB really wasn't a pressure underflip at all. There was no underflip or late flip there. It was the faux pop shove it, tip-it-over-90-degrees one. And it wasn't even done very well. I'm not joking when I say that trick looks 100x better when it flips a full 360 for the kickflip part, instead of the 90 degrees stuff. I'm not surprised people claimed it was basically just a pop shove it. Sean Davis kind of deserved the hate, but mostly just for his attitude. It wasn't just the one trick, he also did a weird 360 shove and pretended it was an impossible and some more stuff like that. I also wish he would have just explained the pop shove it tip-over-90 trick, instead of the whole 'I don't know man' response. That was lame. Especially because in terms of letters he was so far ahead, he didn't need Shaun to fail that one trick.
