The Most Important Disc Golf Alchemy! Fusing Upper and Lower Body Backhand Mechanics. Part 2.

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***EDIT*** Huge apologies for audio issues, the mic was creating some weird feedback. I'm currently going mic-less until I can diagnose the problem, thanks for bearing with me.
Okay, it's time for the throws! In this video, I start smashing standstill drives into the net at full power. The intensity of the energy is extremely apparent, you can see how the net recoils from the impact of the disc, and how it often sends it right back in my face.
I accompany this display with additional discussions of proper arm alignment in the swing, and how consequential misalignment is. At the end of the day, you're creating a linear throwing mechanism. Any deviations from linear will detract from both power and accuracy.
Let me know how I did, feedback is always appreciated! I'll wrap up this series tomorrow.

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@NickCarroll Месяц назад

Hey Brian! So what you're doing is "external rotation of the arm" at the shoulder. Basically your throwing shoulder shrugs up a little, and your elbow points down more. It's actually better now than it was a few months ago. I'm very aware of this problem since I have it - though much worse than you. The funny thing is a couple years ago I didn't have this problem. I am not sure how I started it. What happens is you develop a swing plane that is slightly more diagonally downward when the disc is in the power pocket. You throw so fast that you probably need to evaluate your swing with 240fps slomo footage, and slow down some. I think ultimately you may have to modify the swing at slow speeds, and slowly practice faster and faster until you can use it at your fastest speeds. The key is protracting (bring out) and depressing (lowering) the throwing shoulder more, combined with bringing the elbow up more through more. All that happens through internal rotation. Basically think "down and out" for your shoulder, and "up and out" for your elbow. But it has to be done in such a way as your upper arm doesn't externally rotate, as that is what is causing the shoulder to come up involuntarily, and the elbow down. Keep in mind the rest of your body is absolutely fine. This is more of a positioning issue, than a timing issue. You've created a swing path that just needs a touch more optimization. Otherwise everything else with the swing looks absolutely fine to me, and this ultimately is "icing on the cake" stuff, but it should improve shoulder health. Keep up the great work! 🙂

@NickCarroll Месяц назад

I've been thinking about this more and I'll just say the priority should be externally rotating the arm less, because I think it causes the shoulder to elevate more. I don't think you're trying to bring the shoulder up, the more I look at your throw. It seems to me that's just a byproduct of the internal rotation, as is the elbow drop. The results of fixing the upper arm's rotation should be a better shoulder and elbow orientation, and the swing path of the disc will improve as well.

@gyronation9303 Месяц назад

Nice video Brian. Comparing how you're moving from the videos of the Method vs this one, your throws look powerful but a little slower. I've been experimenting with different swing paths through. Can I share some things to think about/experiment with? My throw right not consists of 2 pendulums. First pendulum is from my head to my hips, where my hips swing back and forth during the weight transfer. The second pendulum is in the shoulder of the throwing arm. I find that a lot of people, myself included, either jam the throwing shoulder up trying to keep the disc on a level plane, or swoop their pull. It looks like you're swooping/bicep curling the disc which is causing inconsistencies in your release point. My current workaround is to start the disc from your back hip, like sheathing your sword and withdrawing it. The path of the disc is like an upside down swoop, as your elbow moves forward the disc gets pulled to a level plane. I wonder how much faster we can throw staying loose still, but leveraging a more direct swing path that keeps our levers long.

@twistedstreams615 Месяц назад

Question about the palm down queue- how do you get the nose angle down while keeping the palm down? Do you find the wrist rolls / supinates into position naturally during the hit?

@BrianDiscGolf Месяц назад

I think it has to do with the inclination of "swinging flat". You probably already know how to do that, and will be able to hit the right angles when you're producing flat and pure linear force in your swing. A lot of these things are self-correcting, I guarantee you bombers like Eagle and Simon and AB never had to fuck around with nose angle. They just think "throw it there". This intention is actually extremely helpful for head stability, it turns out. The more stable your entire swing platform is, the easier it becomes to swing flat with a controlled nose. I personally grip the disc fairly-lightly initially, and begin to bear down on it right at the peak of the backswing. I apply quite a bit of pressure on the disc with my right thumb, which controls the nose angle well. I've been putting so much pressure on that point recently that I developed a blood blister right against the thumbnail. When you throw hard with the proper nose alignment and angle of attack, you HAVE to grip the disc super hard to hold onto it. Remember, because of the acceleration and resultant energy, you're throwing something that weighs 15-20 lbs when it ejects out. That's a lot of pressure on your fingers. I think most problems with nose angle happen because of poor sequencing. If your leg isn't starting the swing first, you're tugging on the disc ahead of the legs with the imprecise muscles of the arms. This causes so many of the biggest problems like rounding and swooping. It afflicts me too, constantly, as I continue to learn integrating upper and body perfectly. Shit isn't easy.

@andrewallenpainter1616 Месяц назад

Are you looking at the camera? Is that the best head position?

@BrianDiscGolf Месяц назад

I’m looking at the camera initially to show the head stability, but you can see how my centered head moves forward about 25 degrees at ejection as my shoulders turn towards the target line. Basically it’s moving when it has to, and not before. Not terribly unlike how a golfer’s head remains centered over the ball in golf, and only comes up after the ball blasts away.

@johnhall1232 Месяц назад

No front heel rotation?

@BrianDiscGolf Месяц назад

Nope, not at this power level. The energy in my swing and the firmness of the brace keeps me completely immobilized until the disc ejects. And because all the energy in my swing is going into the disc, there is nothing to release off the front leg afterwards. I feel no forward momentum at all after the swing, and simply stand up out of the brace.