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I never thought of that mid corner feel as being the weight shift…so much makes sense now! 😅 This is why I still watch these videos! Even as a seasoned racer, I still learn new things from time to time that seem to make huge improvements in my racecraft. Thanks for another great video!
I've been playing racing games since GT2 in the early 2000's and have slept on NASCAR and oval racing the entire time. There is so much finesse to driving an oval, way more than a road course, and I'm shocked I've never given NASCAR/ovals a chance up until now.
The best car to practice this technique in is the Modifieds. So much grip. Most tracks, you don't even need the brakes. Which is why they're perfect to practice this. You will learn the difference the balance of the car on entry makes straight away. It's also where you'll see a ridiculous benefit in races. I won something like 7/10 modified races I've ever done on iRacing. Some would say it was just by "being faster" but THIS technique was the difference. Back in 2015 I won SOOO many Arca/K&N races by massively saving the tires, and then blitzing whoever got by me. I was only able to save the tires to such a degree without losing so much pace by using this technique. This video is well researched and if you're already a proficient driver, mastering this technique will give you a massive leg up.
I will watch the yellow line, it will creep left as you go into the corner, as soon as it starts to move to the right in your windshield, thats when you hit the gas. Easy visual cue.
Excellent video and the final remark on the why of trail-braking also is hugely important. I feel this is something where spending a bit more time in Rookies or D Street Stock would really payoff. Most people (including myself) rushed through these series but the Cup/Xfinity cars go to a lot of tracks where you can get away with not concerning yourself over any of this. I was at 1.5k IR a few months ago, but as Im closing in on 3k IR now Im starting to hit a wall because I just dont master this part of oval racing yet.
Very interedting. Think this applies to all cars. At IMSA Multiclass I always get same point of view when watching some people struggleing with LMPs while I take GT3s besides being able to bring an LMP safe back home.
Your vids are very helpful. I’ve tried all of these and they certainly helped. Still don’t know how to drive it off the right rear, but my tire management took a BIG step forward last year
Turns three and four at Legacy Phoenix in the Pickup Cup is a good place to learn this. A novice will have the left side of their truck well off the ground as they try to force the truck around the corner as fast as they can, while fast drivers who have braked at the correct point will be sitting level with the track and are able to get out of the corner a lot faster.
I dont race oval's that long but what you just said in your video is exactly what i noticed with the xfinity Supra last week at Michigan (Legacy). Dont know how to discribe it but i took turn 1&2 different then most other drivers there. It was like i drove deeper/later into it, waited for "this moment" of the weight shift and got on the gas way earlier and could release my steering input and the car drove it self out of the corner and to the outside wall. (Not into it😅) But i struggeld a little in 3&4 because i couldnt find the right moment there, at least not consistent enough😕
This all applies to road racing too. The corners are just smaller. The Porsche Cup car is the classic example, for learning weight transfer, but it helps a lot in formula too.
I’m still really green, but I picked up the weight shift feel in your tire wear video. It made me consistently faster, but the difference on those long runs in between cautions. I know right away with the understeer coming out of a corner I was too eager on the gas or entry.
Awesome video sir. I always enjoy your work. I have always struggled with trail braking. I try to adjust my entry and be easy with the inputs but still seem to struggle to keep up. Every since the latest update it seems to be dramaticly worse. I raced Rockingham in the trucks and qualified 2nd but by the end of the race i had fallen all the way to last place and just could't keep pace. Maybe it's just me. Seems like everybody else is passing me like i'm standing still.
Yup, I'd say this is the biggest issues I have on ovals, and what has kept me from participating in it more. But then again, that is just dime in a dozen... :D
@DJYeejay you should think about maybe grabbing some outside of the car shots at the point of weight shift, just to show us from another angle how much of a weight transfer we are talking about
You dont want to hold the brake longer. You want to lift earlier, and then get off brake earlier and coast a little before throttle. Holding the brake longer is adding more heat to the fronts
Can you place your throttle/brake display in the center of your view. I have some new displays but one I watch sometimes is a 720p from 2005. I can barely see your pedal inputs. Love your content and your shorts are excellent. 👍
Watching your camera, I’m amazed that you’re not a professional kart racer. Haha jk. This video is one of the most beneficial ones yet! Great thanks for them
To add to this, why can I apply oval racing techniques to circuit racing and see a noticeable gain, but applying circuit techniques to oval racing shows a noticeable loss?
I may have missed the definition, but I still don't exactly grasp the concept of weight-shifting. To clarify, is it when the car has the feeling of rolling down the hill that counts as a weight shift, or is it something else?
Addition: This is true for road racing too. Be mindful of your slip angle, as even though the slip angle can be very forgiving, you are using more tire for the same amount of speed, As for you DJ, you mentioned you find inconsistency when driving. Is your sim rig stiff enough? are you using a padded chair? Is your wheel close enough that your shoulder doesn’t come off the back rest? are your pedals the right fit for your racing needs. i don’t know your kit but perhaps getting a hard seat with only thin rubber padding might lend you extra consistency. Idk when you say “sometimes it doesn’t” it means you’re doing something wrong half the time. Good luck
There are little micro reasons why "sometimes it doesn't" that were not super important to the overall idea of the vid. Mostly just getting entry angles wrong
The equipment you have is more important,I have thrustmaster t150 with 400 dollar computer 24 in screen with plastic spring gas and brake , I've gotten close to 3000 I rating in oval pavement and close to 2000 irating in oval dirt , and I am convinced and have been told that steering wheel and the pedals and your computer you are using how to make a huge difference if it didn't why would people spend tens of thousands of dollars on Sim rigs if you could only spend $500 and get up to a 10,000 people that say that the wheel and pedals and computer does not matter or just I don't know what to say but I do know what matters I am a very talented driver, I'm going to upgrade my pedals and wheels soon and then I will be able to prove this correct
fast cash is a wack league, did a few races with them, full of 13-14 year old kids, intentional wrecking, bad driving, half the race spent under caution, shady admin behavior. there's a reason why they only got 7 showing up each week. save yourselves the time!
