The Most Important Scene In Batman 1989 Doesn't Have Batman 

I first saw this movie, before I played Lego Batman the 🎮 as I overheard the same composer as Danny Elfman and Batman the ride at six flags magic mountain.

If You went and seen a Batman movie and it was 2 hours of Bruce Wayne wouldn’t you be disappointed even if just a little? I know I would.

During the Ace Chemicals scene Batman only knows that Jack Napier is Carl Grissom’s right hand man. He drops him simply because he lost his grip. If his intention was to kill him he wouldn’t have tried to grab for him in the first place. Another intriguing thing is The Joker knew who Batman was the whole time. In their final confrontation on the cathedral rooftop Batman says “You killed my parents I made you, you made me first” and Joker says “What? …I was a kid when I killed your parents”meaning that He knew Batman was Bruce Wayne.

he didn't drop him into the chemicals on purpose though, you can see him struggling to keep ahold of Jack before he slips his grip

@@BuzbyGaming it could be seen that way but I always assumed that was just Joker stalling for time; think of how many people hes killed over the years, you think hes gonna remember some family even one as wealthy as the Waynes? or that their son survived? earlier in the film hes shown on two occasions to not even really know who bruce is at all; when Bob brings him up as Vickis date (some guy named Wayne) and when they come into contact at Vickis apartment (Bruce... Wayne nes pas??)

That is what I loved about Tim Burton, his version was different enough but you can clearly see the parallels if you’re a fan of the character and the world. Personally I seen Grisons as more of a Carmine Falcone but I can see Thorn in his as well. Joe Chill was a two bit nobody mixing his character into the joker did him nothing but a favor imo.

80’s 90’s screaming in movies was mandatory I think. It was the era of scream queens after all.

@BuzbyGaming it is jarring listing to it today.

Quite the contrary. She's a wonderful screamer. Her screaming performance is impeccable. She certainly delivers on that department.

That constant and incessant screaming annoyed a LOT of people!

I think falling from the sky and being confronted by the Joker would make any women scream.😂😂😂😂😂

It's awesome and sets the bar for Batman imo. I hope maybe since DC now has a multiverse after beetlejuice we can get the two of them to make a 3rd movie in the Burtonverse.

0:54 me too

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@@danielwilliamson6180now, you want to get 🥜!? 2:08 come on, let’s get 🔩!

I always felt that way until I saw this video. He really is doing that to draw The Jokers attention away from Vicki

Michael Keaton is my Batman. He's the bar on which i rate every other Batman. I try to watch Batman and Batman Returns at least once a year. Batman returns was the first one I got to see in theaters.

The Joker playing dumb Or was legit confused the dude was just gut punched and thrown through a wall. But Just before getting punched off the ledge he says. “I was a kid when I killed your parents… You wouldn’t hit a guy with glasses would ya?”

Joker was playing stupid honestly trying to get out of it because he knew he fucked up good when Batman mentions it to him

He wanted the Joker to know why Batman, not Bruce Wayne existed. The Joker wasn't surprised by the truth because he knows he did kill alot of innocent people prior to becoming the Joker.

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I think deep down he knew who the guy was after he heard the name 'Jack Napier'. Joker seems to remember the mugging during their final battle. It just took those few words to bring out that suppressed memory.

@@seijakarjalainen if he knew his parents killer was Jack Napier he would've killed him at Axis Chemicals; you see it in Bruces face when Joker utters that "dance with the Devil" line to him... all the pieces clicked in that moment for him which is also why we get the flashback to his parents murder while hes staring at video of the Joker

I don't know if this scene telegraphs that Bruce Wayne has decided to *kill* Joker/Jack Napier. At the end of the film, he holds onto the flailing Joker's arm for more than just a passing second. His initial or usual instinct would be to pull him up per his "no kill" rule (In Nolan's Batman, Joker literally is left (alive) flailing from a building). In Burton's ending, I'd say Bruce Wayne/Batman truly does ponder for a moment or two whether he should save him or not. Regardless, it's a great scene because its so unique in the whole "Batman universe" because it involves Bruce--not as Batman--actually face-to-face quarreling with the bad guys. The public distinction between Bruce & Batman is *usually* black & white. The closest other episode I could think of would also be from Nolan's TDK at the cocktail party for Harvey Dent. However, Bruce intentionally avoids confronting Joker--albeit acting out of (public) character for Bruce when disarms one of the henchmen with a quick move of his hands.

Outside of his suit. BATMAN without his Bat suit is….. Bruce Wayne.

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Agreed, But also a big Joker move would be to kill her and tell people she did it to herself… and giggle because only you know the truth. Mine was just an opinion. Thats what I love about Tim Burton he gives you enough to assume what you want… but both outcomes are true to the character.

​@@BuzbyGamingcorrect joker is a practical joker he lives to make himself laugh and no one else.

Apparently there is a deleted scene of this but they would of got an R/18 rating.

Well the best thing to do is Separate the movie versions and the comic versions, they play off each other but as much as every run of the character is alike, they all have awesome difference's. That is why I TRY to give movie vs comics a chance because you never know how it might work in favor of the overall character...BUT... But like The newer version of the crow, it strays too far IMO... it is to the detriment of the character. I back away.

There are also more than one Batman narrative in the comics, too. The Batman "origin story" (I've grown to hate the term) was rehashed multiple times in the comics. Didn't get stale, especially as new characters were added . . . but added in a way that they changed anything fundamental. Batman existed long before Carmine Falcone appeared, for example. The whole "Dark Knight" comic series, of course, is just one of many series in the overall franchise. I can tell you realize--like me--that 1989 Batman is solely underappreciated.

Mine too, Keaton was my Batman growing up. The first movie i ever seen in theaters was Batman Returns.

Yeah But.... But... He wasn't in the suit. I mean ... He was in a suit... But Not THE Suit.

Is my name porky in cinema 🎥

No he’s Batman but if you bought a movie ticket and it was just 2 hours of Bruce Wayne you’d be disappointed if he was never in the actual Batman suit right? I know they are 1 in the same but “Batman” ain’t in the scene Bruce Wayne is.

Yeah that is true but in this Universe Jack Napier is the killer. Making the final showdown more personal. Honestly though I am a fan of the comics Napier killing the Wayne’s and creating Batman then Batman accidentally dropped Napier and created the Joker. It was poetic for them to have created each other then be destined to destroy each other. However I always prefer The Joker to not have a “Real Name” and just be that opposite force to Batman.

@@BuzbyGamingme too.

3:20 this younger version of Jack Napier sinister 😈 is even more scary than Jack Nicholson.

They replaced Joe Chill & Rupert Thorn with Jack Napier and Carl Grisome. You need to think of it like that.

Vale finally realized he was Batman after he tried to tell her, as well as, how he faked his death and ninja'd his way out of her apartment. That was important.

This scene sets up all the pieces to push into the ending of the movie. Jokers obsession with Vicky, Bruce about to tell Vicky (a reporter) that he’s Batman because he likes her a lot and wants to be honest. Joker saying the line that makes Bruce remember that he killed his parents. This scene is the literal turning point of the movie that sets to two biggest characters on a collision course with each other. If this scene isn’t the most important and pivotal moment, I’m interested to hear what is.

@@BuzbyGaming it also helps Vicky, realize who is Batman.

if only what?

@@plasticweapon It just felt wrong to see him tie a rope around Joker's foot and let him fall

I had a really really bad cold, I just wanted to get the video out. sorry but yeah, You are correct it is an AI voice. Believe Me though.... This very free AI voice was much more bearable then my raspy cracking voice that week. I use AI very sparingly only when I can't do the Voice over myself. I am a 1 man crew here. Nobody can stand in and if you miss a week making content at my numbers it's a fight to get back. Sorry it wasn't to your standards . I hope you'll give the channel another try in the future. have a great weekend.

It was meant to be, He wasn’t actually angry he playing an actor playing a character that can’t act. ( He’s the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude )

@@BuzbyGaming Actually Bruce Wayne's acting skills should be much better than this cause he constantly pretends to being someone he's not when he's in public.

Jack becoming the Joker really saved this film. I did not like the pre-transformation Jack Napier in this or cartoons. I don't think a creative genius would work for someone like Carl or Sal. Museum scene was pretty mid too. I know people disliked the town hall scene but creativity of it was great. I know people also wondered how police reacted to gun shots so quickly during the Wayne mugging. Jack could have pretty easily dropped a young Bruce but was talked out of it by a Bob like figure. There were a lot of issues but Jack Nicholson did justice to Mr J we all know and love.

Grow up.

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Yeah it’s normal while on the internet to seek out and watch scenes from movies you don’t like. Then negativity comment about them to the people that do.

@@BuzbyGaming What can I say,vim a glutton for punishment. Still a terrible movie, though.

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@@RickyNuggets More like a joker, actually.