The Most Powerful Commanders of D&D Adventures in the Forgotten Realms | Power Tier List | EDH | MTG 

I can vouch got my precons yesterday and did quick upgrades, prosper was hands down the strongest

Also, red specializes in playing cards from exile, and Kaldheim brought Foretell and Dream Devourer which that can give huge value.

Why can't I hold all these treasures??

I agree Prosper is insane!!!

Yeap

I heard in 5e he can be taken out quite easily. Plus id imagine MTGs power scaling is much higher than in D&D.

@@MatthewCJoy depends on how strong the party is and how the dm lets the players interact with the environment to bring it down. I'd say it's still a tough nut to crack

@@billcypher564 well ya of coarse, but that description is far from Emrakul level power. Also the "devour whole worlds" statement everyone keeps using seems very out of line with what his actual power level seems like. I know hardly anything about D&D and even less about this particular monster but it just seems like that statement is really overblown, sorta like if hes left unchecked for an absurd amount of time he will of coarse eventually have killed everything. Like its just mythical exaggerated line to hype him up, because i havent personally seen anyone bring up any feats by actual encountered ones where they actually display that level of power. But again I can definitely be wrong.

@@MatthewCJoy Nah it's a pretty apt comparison if you're comparing The Tarrasque to the Eldrazi Titans that *we see* in Magic. You can't compare it to the unseen eldritch beings that are the Eldrazi in the blind eternities, but you can compare it to the manifestations we see, effectively being small parts of the greater whole titans. In that way The Tarrasque is similar, as without a concerted, cooperative effort between the most powerful beings on a plane or world; in much the same way the Eldrazi Titans' smaller physical manifestations would- The Tarrasque would also eventually consume all available life.

@@MatthewCJoy The Tarrasque also doesn't die, so it would have been more appropriate if it had a cheap Regenerate cost or when it dies it just goes seven from the top of your library. There were so many things missing from what defines The Tarrasque in this set that it is just a big ol' dinosaur with a Tarrasque picture and name slapped onto it.

Until you're against simmic, then it's the rakdos player's simmic deck

Mitch seems to intentionally disregard infinite combo cards. Even says it with Acerak(spelling?) In this video.

She is S tier for infinite mana builds. You don't play her like Ur Dragon "Dragon Tribal". Instead once you hit infinite mana, cast Tiamat, tutor for Scourge of Valkas/Terror of the Peaks and Immersturm Predator. Just cast Tiamat and sac and recast infinitely to win.

@@dinchianghii3296 but how often will this win in CEDH or every high tier

@@troybrodeyr In Cedh everything goes. It just needs Scourge of Valk or Terror of the Peaks. Just that this is the first cmdr for those who wants to play Food chain Dragon tribal instead of Tazri Ally or the First Sliver. Can also make it less cedh by cutting down interaction, throwing in more dragons and keeping food chain pieces.

@@dinchianghii3296 that is assuming you're playing cedh. Even still without infinites you have access to blue and green and with enough low cost ramp and counter spells, I think it'd be a beast in casual too.

is this a thing?

@@bouncingdonut9969 Yes it is www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2021/2/25/22301336/magic-the-gathering-warhammer-40000-crossover-commander-deck

@@liammurphy3258 a lord of the rings set would be dope

@@jameskeenan1351 it's coming in 2023

Krark's Thumb could come in handy

And really, it’s a *fun* idea, which is what I appreciate. I’m not overly fond of overpowered and competitive stuff, just because I dealt with a lot of jerks when I was younger. By the way, I’m building a Vrondiss deck that includes *all* the color-appropriate dice cards. I’m calling it “Mister King Dice”.

Idk, kind of a worse Sen Triplets to me

@@ChildrenOfOwls so far I've been super successful using him. Granted I'm a new player so maybe there are combos or potentials I see yet

@@ChildrenOfOwls it has built in mana fixing and can literally screw over any player extremely easily. Being able to manipulate what they draw is extremely powerful, more than looking at their hand and potentially casting what they have.

@@liamlyda2116 I mean...there's a reason Sen Triplets sees competitive play and Xanathar doesn't

@@ChildrenOfOwls its also a brand new card that hasn't been out for very long, where Sen Triplets has been out for years. I'm not saying one is better than another, just that Xanathar is perfect for locking people out of games, Sen Triplets is perfect for casting other people's stuff. When it comes down to it, Xanathar is just much more consistent.

Give Toralf deathtouch (and the commander if possible) and each damage is a kill spell because each damage past one is excess.

How?

@@hrdstyldncngisbst Infinite mana is easy with Freed From the Reel and Kiora's Follower, along with a number of other effects. Then you use Thassa's Oracle, Jace, or Lab Maniac to win.

Im disappointed they didn’t use all colors for a beholder with each eye being a different ability. Similar to a campaign on critical role

That’s honestly why I like Prosper, even though Rakdos isn’t my preferred color pairing. I’m a green man, so I honestly wish I could build a deck that has both Prosper and Faldorn in the 99. They both have solid synergy. I just can’t think of an appropriate Jund Commander. Any ideas, anyone?

My favorite is Delina copying a pixie guide. It can go effectively almost infinite if it hits the first couple rolls.

Most God creatures already have indestructible so I completely agree. I understand that WotC had to balance her insane ETB but still, I don’t think that for 7 mana giving her hexproof or at least ward 7 to match her mana value is that much to ask

i have just played a game of limeted against a xanathar and he was brutal

It's Eddie's fault

@@matthewp3542 we both know that's a lie...but a comforting lie.

Gross, I love it

Ditto, I like the way you think! She seems fun regardless of this tier list. The dice rolling is the cherry on top.

I have to respectfully disagree with you 100%. Tiamat is a S tier commander. I am a MTG Arena player. However I have a 5 color Dragon deck that uses Tiamat and I can safely say that I bring the pain on a casual fun level AND competitive! Just beat the other day a 5 color good stuff Jodah deck while they had a Omniscience enchantment in play... I consistently will beat other top tier commander decks. Not a offshoot every now and then thing. The thing with Tiamat is you might have a relatively good idea what's coming. But supported with good graveyard recursion cards and board wipe spells such as crux of fate, ruinous ultimatum etc. In combination with Sarkhan planeswalkers, Fearsome Whelp, and Dragons shamans to reduce dragons cost to essentially 1-2 mana. Good luck!!! Also good luck having/finding an answer for 6-12 threats coming your way. Not to mention each of those dragons individual abilities are usually game winning in and of themselves more times than not if not answered within a couple turns. There are ALOT of whiff 5 color dragons deck out there I'll admit. But go against the one built right and you'll find it is no joke whatsoever! To be honest if I had access to Ur-Dragon. I'd still choose Tiamat for the simple reason that she is cheaper for one so you're going to more consistently have her in play than UR Dragon. 2# She is super helpful in filling your hand back up with super dangerous threats if your going against heavy removal, board wipe counter decks. 3# She gives you the opportunity to tutor for specific Dragons that you need for specific matchups. Her utility is amazing if built correctly! Anyways, just my two cents on the matter

While I don't think I'd play him as commander but in a rahda he can become huge and possibly a game ender, but better as a 99

Yeah as she stands with a well tuned deck even if you disregard other sources of venturing it’s easy to get a creature a turn cycle. She’s like a 3 mana 3 color Meren that can reanimate any creature. Looters are going to be insane in this deck.

She's busted if you can pull multiple dungeon ventures in one turn, or on enemy turns, which is possible but you need lots of mana and probably more discard effects, ltb effects, or better sack outlets than her precon. I only play casual myself but I doubt she could hold up in competitive, unless someone can prove me wrong.

Sefris is S-Tier if he based it on the other cards synergy in its deck. Also imo, Tiamat is B-Tier at best

@Volrath or make a planeswalker that synergizes with dungeons like every time you use a loyalty counter, venture.

@Volrath Give it time, maybe it'll happen. Though I think those of us that like dungeons are in the minority.

Better than Ur Dragon in casual and CEDH! She is a Dragon *TUTOR*. If built correctly, she is very hard to stop! Ur dragon requires a varibale of luck and card draw to win. Tiamat does not.. Ur-Dragon is a shotgun. Tiamat a sniper rifle. In competitive games, you'll want Tiamat helming your dragon deck 💯%

Not when his precon is consistently stealing cards sadly

You’d need a card that told you to roll a 100 sided die though

Is flying not evasion anymore?

Respectively, you need to get better at building Tiamat decks. You can win with her the turn the is cast or right after. Sneak attack is a prime example. More times than not. You'll be casting Tiamat much earlier than turn 7. I play against top tier S and Omega tier commanders and beat them all the time with Tiamat. The key with Tiamat is to build her with cheap counter/protect spells, creatures, and enchantments. Your only natural theeat is control. So with that strategy in place. Control decks usually crumble the second their tempo is thrown off. Either way, I have found you overwhelm the opponent before they can muster any meaninful resistance.

That is quite literally what legendary means

Do you mean not everything that has legendary SHOULD be used as a commander?

How so?

@@justinhoudeshell4031 Minsc can activate his bottom effect for 0. He is effectively a sac outlet in the command zone for Naya. you can pay 0 to Sac protien hulk and go into a number of piles. The deck can also run very strong Pod lines, and stax pieces. He is arguably the best this set has, up there with the big Devil guy.

@Volrath Many other CEDH decks die to removal as well. That factor alone does not change that it is without a doubt the best Naya commander since Atla, if not Marath. People play protection in G/W decks as well so you can't assume removal will always resolve either.

Do you want Icingdeath to be D-? It’s already a D, have they gone any lower?

@@SlurpeeDude429 it just seems so awful it deserves its own terrible rank... White is "bad" because we get commanders like this for it and it makes me sad.

I desperately want werewolves to be relevant!