The Most Powerful DIY NAS I've built (ft. LattePanda SIGMA) 

A ".org" selling a subscription service? Should've been a ".com"....

I have a home server for storing media and photos. 1 x 16tb HDD raid 1 with backup 4 x 4tb ssd raid 0 and 4 x 22 tb hdd raid 5 for storage. Basically its a 82TB google drive. I also been buying more and more smart devices ( smart light bulbs, google chrome cast, smart plugs , cameras , ring , thermometer , google home) and kinda notice that internet is slower, the range and reception is weaker. My questions are 1. Are my smart devices slowing down my internet / interfering the range? 2. Should I get a wifi extender or an extra router for better range and connection? 3. Should I have a separate server for my smart devices or should I use the same home server ? 4. If you have a server for storage and more and more smart devices , how would you set it up? I would prefer the easiest and most cost-effective solution. Thx

Thanks it hurts my eyes :)

I don't normally comment but my god - it was distracting I came down here to ask you to stop. ❤

I thought it was fine and took nothing from the content but props to you for being empathetic

Thank you! You are the best!

I didn't even notice at first, and it didn't bother me. I consider it part of your artistic freedom either way.

I would really like to tinker with PCIe interfaces - so could be super cool with off the shelf "cheap" hw. My end goal would however be an fpga board on a PCIe interface where the CPU is interrupted by fpga over PCIe 🤓

Like a true co-processor?

Make an Rpi 1 and put it inside the rpi 5

Your Raspi obsession gets weird in times of a Rpi5 which is so far from what the Rpi has been and what it‘s sold to be. No offense, still watch and like your stuff.

Clones are already there with some caveats, but realistically there isn't a good reason to go this route unless your only priority is power usage. A recycled desktop in won't take more space than the NUC plus it's external array and will be more flexible in every way.

100% overkill, in fact you can buy a decent factory NAS for 600+ what he paid for the case, raid board and so on. The only thing going for it is that it's pretty small and has m.2 slots. For those people that wanna save a huge buck, buy a 10 year old matx PC, ddr4 one if you can, find sleek cooler and a smallest case that can fit 4 to 8 3.5 drives. You can now fill it with any kind of drives, add cooling and so on. One thing you might want to buy is a network card, cause not all of them support 1gbps speeds over rj45 and you might want wifi.

One of the n100 router / firewall mini pc looks interesting for this. Doesnt have the sata ports but has the 4 2.5gb ethernet, and 2 m.2 slots from the picture (plus a mini pcie i think, might be m sata). So you could put an m.2 to sata card in one of the m.2 slots

Its cool for DIY projects, but i think it has not enough PCIe connectivity as a homeserver for my usecase. The lattepanda has one 4x PCIe 4.0 M.2 and one 4x PCIe 3.0 M.2 + 1x PCIe 3.0 M.2 E Key The 13 inch Framework (1340P) boards only have one 4x PCIe 4.0 M.2

The Framework 16 Motherboard will likely be more interesting for those sort of project. Besides having two Nvme M.2 slots, there is the PCIe interface for the back modules. With the three official confirmed back modules using it being the GPU module and more interesting for a NAS/home server, the back module with two more NVMe M.2 slots and the empty one with exposed "GPIOs" for DIY projects. We will need to see as much piwer can go through the PCIe bridge bur I guess we could have more than two SATA drives data bandwitch wise. And even without that, like with the Framework 13, we can boot from one of the USB SSD modules, so we should at least run UNRAID or TrueNAS from an USB SSD module (or a USB stick for UNRAID) and have 4 NVMe SSDs for the Raid with just the official modules. And with a port reserved for the USB4 power input port, there would be 4 USB-C left for USB, 2.5GB ethernet port and video port modules.

@@18earendildid framework release a price for the 16 inch mainboard? Im thinking its gonna cost much more than the 13 inch one. For me, homelabbing is also about having good price to performance :)

Agree with everything apart from performance - i5-1340p outperforms even something like i9-9900KS, which retailed at $513. 12th gen was a really big leap for Intel

@@WolfgangsChannel I just can't figure out a mini home server usecase that'll require that level of CPU performance. I've got a bunch of services running on mine - including a Microsoft Exchange mail server that I admittedly only use for testing - and the thing idles at 2-3% CPU usage at most despite being a much weaker R5 3600. Unless you do lots and lots of video encoding you're going to run out of RAM long before you run out of CPU. @orbatos Are you looking at old dual-socket workstation with tons of GPUs or how do you get of 'a couple hundred watts' idle power? It's a very rare desktop that'll idle beyond double digit power.

Probably not. I’ve been running 4 HDDs on it without any issues though. Let me know how you added two Molex cables though, I’d be interested in the pinout

The Realtek 1619B SoC and 2GB RAM is rough...

Maybe not best for any tasks other than serving data, use something else for processing. Cheap though

It escalated a little bit, and now I think i'll have to make a big video about Alder Lake in general

@@WolfgangsChannel I'm looking forward to the video! I have been considering purchasing the ASRock N100DC-ITX.

@@WolfgangsChannel Intriguing words 🙃🙃 That would be really awesome if you make a video about the N100 ITX board!!!

​@@cno1009what are you planning to do with it?

I'm pretty sure Icydock has a product like that in a 2x5.25" size

@@meco Not with power.

@@fwiler what exactly do you mean by that bc the ExpressCage MB038SP-B for example has two sata power connectors for 8x 2.5 ssd's

I was thinking more of a fully integrated PSU, just connect it to the mains and that’s it. That and an oculink port to connect to the PC

NixOS

It’s been pretty reliable for me. I have an old school power meter with an LCD and the readings are within a margin of error

It's been quite a while use in mech keyboard community

HDDs also need 5V

That's the big question - connect it up how?

Transistor, Mosfet or relais if you're scared. There's probably a lot of possibilities. Maybe even some passive electronics on the switch itself which act like a switch press. Even just a capacitor might be enough.

@@WolfgangsChannel maybe like @TheManfet said, try to Solder or so... Need to get me this DAS case too to diagnose how to do this the best way.

Easier container management, the ability to mix and match drives and add drives to an array after the fact, the ability to spin down individual drives when not in use, easier and more power effiicent 'caching' workflow which lets you cache the most recent files on the SSDs and let HDDs sleep

@@WolfgangsChannel thank your for your answer. I am currently torn between these 2 systems so thats very useful. Is there a video coming about how you setup unraid for your needs?

@@WolfgangsChannel Biggest thing is container management and ability to add more drives. But I do love the simplicity of TruenNAS scale over Unraid and the UI. Each has its pros and cons I guess.

Depends on the GPU, but Intel GPUs are usually ezpz

I immediately thought about Switchbot too, but there's gotta be a better way :(

For me it would be a Beelink or similar, whereby it could be used as a Proxmox host.

I think so too

Oh the music is not mine 😁

@@WolfgangsChannelWhile it may be so, the editing was delicious

Can’t argue with that! Just like gaming consoles are objectively the best choice for most people compared to a gaming PC. As people who like to build stuff and tinker with hardware, we're in the minority

@@WolfgangsChannel I hear you. Though I would say this: building a gaming PC gives you multiple times the console's power, building a diy nas probably won't do that unless you are planning on turning it into a kubernetes cluster but then what you are building isn't a NAS at that point. For example the synology I bought recently has a ryzen CPU pretty powerful, consumes very little power(on top of what the drives do) 8 bays and can run docker and has 32GB or RAM and costed me around 900 pounds. And what I absolutely love about it is the quality software. I have been using synology DSM NAS units for over 6 years now and never once an update broke the system for me. It is solid and the support is amazing(I had a ticket once about something that wasn't in the release about app port changes, very responsive support), oh yes and meaningful error messages/release notes, it integrates with your ups runs any VPN service you could possibly want, what else do I want? :D Oh and of course I have a PC I built because the level of performance and quiet, I consider acceptable does not exist in a pre-build. My PC is completely quiet and packs a punch and leaves any console behind by a wide margin.

For enthusiasts, the increase in performance/graphical quality on a PC when compared to a console can be worth it. But it comes at its own price - buggy drivers, OS updates, hardware/software issues, and so on. Most people would probably not be able to tell a difference, but will definitely notice an overall 'smoother' experience on a console. Your PC can also probably do other things than just "gaming". Similarly, a DIY home server/NAS can be used to host VMs with device passthrough, transcode media, and do a lot of other things. You also get access to hardware video transcoding, 2.5 GbE (Synology NASes still come with 1GbE by default, with an optional proprietary 10GbE module), Thunderbolt and a more extendable platform that doesn't limit you to a certain number of bays (sure, Synology has their 'extension units', but it's not quite the same). For 900 pounds, you can build a very capable machine that would be as power efficient as a pre-built NAS, and deliver way more performance and upgradability. Just like a self-built gaming PC, a self-built NAS also comes with its own drawbacks - you have to pick and choose the right hardware, install and configure the software, and deal with any of the issues in the process. At the same time, if you don't need any of the benefits of a self-built NAS, prefer a device that just works out of the box, and if you're fine with the performance and functionality - Synology is a no brainer. Just like a person who only wants to game would probably not be swayed by the "but you can also do other things on a PC!" arguments. As a sidenote - this video was never meant as a "build your own NAS" tutorial, and more of an "impractical hacking around" session. If you watched the "price and competition" section, you probably also know that I don't actually recommend the device for personal use. If you want to see a more realistic NAS build that I did recently, check out this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vjDoQA4C22c.html

@@WolfgangsChannel oh never misunderstand my comment. It is not bashing the video in any way, we are just having an interesting conversation. Btw. my synology nas has 4 GbE interfaces with link aggregation. In my case the problem will always be the switch and the hard drives would never saturate even 2 Gbs. Hence I only have 2 interfaces bonded.

Unfortunately it uses a PCIe switch to get more lanes. That’s usually bad news for power efficiency

Do you have any sources on the issue? RU-vid won't let you post web links, but posting search terms may work. By searching for "ASM1166 corruption", I didn't find anything.

It’s been the exact opposite for me 🤔

Enable ASPM in the BIOS Run `powertop --auto-tune` on boot Spin down your drives when inactive

@@WolfgangsChannelI will try that out, thanks.

I diy'd my synology using tinypill and it runs on an old ryzen 4600g. 3x 10TB WD gold and 2x 128GB running DSM and dual 2.5gbe. Quite fast.

Acho engraçado que esse tipo de funk tá fazendo sucesso na gringa

You could say that they didn’t even buy you a latte before screwing you 😁

JAJAJAJA COME TO BRAZIL

​@@WolfgangsChannelBrazilians don't say "jajaja"

I can only speak from my personal experience, but I've never had issues with the ASM1166. Have two of them (in the PCIe and M.2 format), and they work well. Many PC motherboards also include ASMedia SATA controllers onboard, and I don't see people having a problem with that

A DHCP reservation for a direct connection between two devices?

@@WolfgangsChannel got it. for sec i thought they are connected to a switch. my bad.

Unless you need GPIO or eDP, you’d be better off with an Intel NUC 13 Pro or another comparable mini PC. Same CPU but way cheaper. It should be able to handle multiple VMs, though I didn’t exactly test to see how many it can run at the same time. That being said, the virtualization overhead is very small these days, so I think you’ll be fine with an i5-1340p. Get a beefier AMD 7xxx miniPC if you want to be on a safe side