It got so much worse, so so much, just remove killer queen, star platinum and The world, they’re all B tier at best, even if you take Sheer heart attack and bite the dust into consideration
Imagine literally being able to use the power of multidimensional traversal with a shield that prevents any damage, and then you get beaten by a talking pink fridge
10. Controls the weather, and the composition of the atmosphere with seemingly no limit to its range. 9. Can use explosive power to one-shot any target, and can reverse time when a situation gets too overwhelming. Time reversal is also a one shot kill to all in the area. 8. The strongest stands physically in JoJo’s, with near perfect stats in all ways. Both can stop time for various amounts of time, being able to move and attack freely within stopped time. 7. The power to erase time. While hard to explain in a brief amount of time, it’s easier to say that he can see 5 seconds into the future and can blow away parts of time that would be disadvantageous to him. 6. The power to accelerate time, making all beings in the universe move at normal speed, while he moves with the acceleration. This gives him infinite speed. Once a singularity is reached, Pucci sets the conditions for a new universe to be made, controlling the laws within it. 5. The ability to hop in and out of parallel universes, and to extract beings and objects from those universes. There can be an infinite number of the user. With Love Train, D4C forms an impenetrable barrier made of an infinite number of universes that can redirect all misfortune to come its way. 4. The ability to master the infinite spin. Can be used as the perfect offensive tool. Anyone hit by the infinite spin will find even their molecules being spun and ripped to shreds. Can rip through D4C’s love train with its bare hands, as shown. 3. The power to create life of inanimate objects, and the ability to cancel any and all of the opponent’s will, reverting their willpower to zero. Essentially, any action taken against GER will be undone until you give up, or he wins the fight. Can also make a target with an impure soul die an infinite number of deaths. 2. The power to harness and control calamity. Anyone who pursues the user WILL experience events that aren’t just unlucky, but almost unrealistic. Rain can pierce through a human body, small objects can fling and tear off limbs, so on and so forth. It scales past durability to ensure a target who even thinks of the user’s name dies. 1. The ability to plunder. The definition of plunder starts to get a bit blurry, as Soft and Wet can steal friction, can steal you, and can steal an object’s dimensions, making a 0 dimensional object that will always find its target without anyone being able to stop it. It’s has infinite range, explodes in your face, and cannot be stopped by any means since it doesn’t exist on any plane of existence.
Pucci can't set the law of new universe tho. The universe itself worked like that. There's an irl paper that is about what will happen after heat death of the universe, in conclusion is that entropy, a function stand for chaos and will NOT disappear, will be add on to new universe. In JOJO's case, is people's memory. The paper itself came out 1 year before Stone Ocean was published.
@@faking2221 the problem with that is that Pucci does reconstruct rules and boundaries during the universe reset. While you are correct that memory is ALSO reconstructed regardless of the date that Pucci chooses, he decided to let people know their destiny as a way of letting humanity have peace with their fate. That wasn’t the overarching ability, but something Pucci chose to enact during the reset. This is why Pucci is considered as strong as he is. We don’t know the limits or full capabilities of Made in Heaven since Pucci died before perfecting them. All we do know is that the reset: 1. Can be rewound to a date selected by Pucci 2. Cannot allow those who died from the chosen date to the time of the reset to move on 3. *Pucci changes the conditions of the new universe once it is created*
Indeed in this “logic” all the stands expect 1 and 2 can be beaten as WOU controls logic to a certain degree and SAW go beyond is beyond logic so luck is not gonna help
I was expecting it at the 1st place, i mean, just imagine summoning some hindu or lovecraftnian deity. Those things can end not only the universe but the multiverse with a blink
@@edwardcardenas9203imagine taking an L to a doodle because your stand isn't targetable and has to bring nonsense playground rules characters to life too
So is whitesnake. Remember Pucci can write commands on discs to force things to work a certain way. Like how he can make a frog explode or take out his own vision.
It can be... Crazy Diamond: The World Crazy Diamond: Bites the Dust Crazy Diamond Requiem Crazy Diamond Love Train Crazy Diamond Act 5 Crazy Diamond Go Beyond Crazy Diamond Over Heaven Or all of them, I guess
i mean meh but hes kinds like twoh since he can overwrite reality however since over heaven stands have infinite speed and can stop time forever (twoh and maybe mih [i'll explain later]) Dio is invincible ( for once lol )
There's obviously limits to his ability otherwise he would have written 'i will find kira's identity' in himself or someone else... i find it so strange when people try to act like rohan secretly has twoh or something
Araki: I wanted to reset the universe because I felt the stands were getting too complex and powerful. What can possibly go beyond a stand that can reset the universe based on its tremendous speed? Also Araki: Yeah I’m gonna make 4 of the top 5 strongest stands come out of parts 7 and 8
No, he reset the universe because he felt his creativity was being strained and he couldn’t think if any way to continue the story of the Phantom Blood universe, so he transitioned the series to a new universe so he was unbound by the story of the previous Parts, meaning he could do what he wanted to.
@@randomguest2901 he did say that but not in that way. It was more “where do I go from accelerating time/space and concepts we don’t even fully understand, IN THIS UNIVERSE?” So he created a new universe to push the boundaries to fully abstract concepts.
So, Basically: 10. Weather Report: Atmosphere Manipulation 9. Killer Queen: Time Repeat 8. Star Platinum & The World: Time Stop 7. King Crimson: Time Erase 6. Made In Heaven: Time Acceleration (Infinite Speed) 5. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap Love Train: Dimensional Barrier (Immovable Object) 4. Tusk Act 4: Infinite Rotation (Infinite Energy) 3. Gold Experience Requiem: Return To Zero 2. Wonder Of U: Endless Calamity (Unstoppable Force) 1. Soft And Wet Go Beyond: The Bubble Of Nothingness
I can't wait for jjba part 9 🤠 I will not edit my comment because later my comments won't feel original. So, I'm sorry if I made some mistakes in my comment 😁
@@envo9059 he forgot to mention that d4c has the ability to transfer his users wounded body and find a new and healthy version of himself to replace his current state not only that bringing alternate versions of people into the original world and it can cause both of them to crumble to dust if they are near each other
@@mrturta9310GER can basically say “nuh uh” and anything that WOU does never happened so i think giorno can beat WOU considering he can even heal himself
@@BuffedWafflesmy bet it's that a battle between those two would be a infinite stalemate. One can negate anything affecting his user, the other creates infinite calamity to their opponents, that cycle would be eternal.
@@BuffedWaffles The way GER works, is, he can essentially negate the will and actions of other stands, HOWEVER, it is also said it may only work if there is someone attacking him. And since WoU attacks using Calamity, Giorno can negate it, but not break the Will of the stand itself, because it's not actually attacking Giorno. It'd just be a harsh back and forward without any actual end because of the intensity of said Calamity. This is just to dive down into detail what the other guy said.
@@orangeball8872 (I don't speak english sorry for any mistakes) well, Jodio is Giornno counterpart. soooo, maybe something in the same line of the back to zero?, he talk about the Mechanisms in the first chapter
@@amarobecerra6036Your english was very good and i agree but i doubt it since jojo isn't about time/fate anymore but now its more about luck and calamities
Chariot requiem wasn't exactly the most powerful and no longer had a user. Sure it caused mass confusion and couldn't be attacked but someone could sacrifice themselves to destroy it like Bucciarati did
@@mechasaber1 The weakness is extremly hard to figure out like certain opponents that are idiots like Goku and etc those people can't counter it but people with above average IQ will be able to figure out the weakness and some people don't focus on the shadow that much, they only knew in the show because Diavolo said the weakness out loud as he tried to steal the requiem arrow. (In Mista's body)
10: Give some of the worst end of the world scenarios. 9: Wipes you off the map just by touching you 8: Makes you donut 7: Confuses you and makes you a doughnut 6: Wipes you out of existence from your own being as often as it pleases 5: Erases you from existence or leaves you wandering through the multiverse with no possibility of returning home 4: Disintegrates you on a monecular level and no matter where you run away he will chase you even between dimensions. 3: You shit 2: You shit x2 1: EGGS
@@jimjaspers3050sort of, FF has the power to regenerate if in water or by consuming water, and if funny Valentine dies another one from a different universe gains all his memory’s and replaces him (he can die an infinite number of times)
@@josefujoestar как King Crimson сотрёт остановленное время? King crimson стирает ВРЕМЯ, если остановить ВРЕМЯ, то НЕЧЕГО будет стирать, он НЕ МОЖЕТ двигаться в таймстопе. Иначе бы пользовался этим.
@@Cascade7155 no because time stop would stop time erasure so diavolo would see his dead body plus, jotaro and dio are WAY stronger AND tankier than diavolo
Technically its heavens door because rohan can kidnap somone and write you have no weakness,you are imortal,you have the strongest stand,you can not lose and then write you will obey me
bro said he never read it though. And still thinks KC with its D in durability could even remotely beat The World and its 9 second ass time stop that DIO had
@@redacted8577 Ik but obviously he could still reach 9 seconds. Apparently every time he time stops his time stop gets longer, so technically he could just reach 9 anyways. his max was 11 during the roadroller time stop so its clearly a training thing
Hard countered by GER, who nullifies it. Both Wonder of U and Go Beyond exist outside of the rules of the universe. D4C isnt a counter but you Made In Heaven cant harm him if he just goes to another dimension.
Indeed but a fact I find not many people seem to remember or know about is the fact made in heaven retains the abilities of both C-moon and whitesnake so with made in heaven's speed and the ability to steal disks and also accelerate that person's aging is a very deadly combo if you ask me
@@digitalpickleridgy2971 Definitely not. MIH does not have the abilities of C-Moon and Whitesnake. Same as how C-Moon doesn’t keep White snake’s disc stealing ability. They are all different stands that are evolving. And Pucci’s MIH cannot compress his time-speeding ability into one person based on what we’ve seen. MIH effect is universal. He can’t age only one person. Although Pucci can manipulate it onto himself by moving faster.
I mean yeah its kinda accurate, with go beyond, what are you gonna do to the bubble if it dosent exist? You cant revert something that dosent exist, you cant redirect something that dosent exist, no matter what the bubble is always gonna be going towards the opponent at high speeds. And plus they can explode. But Soft and Wet Go isnt stronger than wonder of u, it just has a perfect counter to it which is Go Beyond.
Yes, soft and wet go beyond is not stronger, but just the perfect counter to wou. In a vacuum, go beyond bubble can't really be countered, but it doesn't make more damage than, for example, a gun + it is a pain to aim The strongest would be the best in most scenarios ( so between GER and WOU imo )
(Sorry if I misunderstand your comment) I believe your saying giorno is the best stand/most invulnerable. While it might not be able to be killed by most if not all stands. It’s offensive abilities aren’t nearly as strong as some others
To be fair Araki did say Calamity is the strongest power in jojo so by default Wonder of you is stronger and Soft and wet go beyond beat it at the end but yea it's a bit of a stretch because all those stands bend reality in a way you can't tell who overwrites the other xD And even below that a fight between Star platinum/The world vs King crimson is entirely determined on who activates their ability first and if we factor in range then Weather report wins because my man can just end the entire population with one natural disaster ect Tldr: stands power scaling is not just about ability power There's a ton of factors to it
@@MIDO44444go beyond bubble is basically Josuke's bubble but doesn't *exist* therefore natural disaster or calamity doesn't trigger because its getting attacked by something that doesn't *exist* basically think of it like a chronic disease for WoU
silver chariot requiem manipulates the souls (the stand are the souls of the users in their physical form), that way, the SCR can control some stand for him not to attack, so in my opinion he is the stronger
@@rafaeleich958 no, in the fight against the sun he found the user's hiding place, which had a mirror in front of it and jotaro realized that the stone was in two places at the same time, it had nothing to do with shadows
@lilityler1340 ur saying ger wouldnt attack gappy and just stay there and take the go beyond attack? also ur tryna buff soft and wet in this scneario which i can do too to ger, ger with fully mastered rtz that can reverse beyond logic beats saw go beyond neg diff lol
Notorious BIG, Chariot Requiem, Cheap Trick, Superfly, Ball Breaker, Cream, Green Day, Purple Haze, Bohemian Rhapsody are all either A Tier or S tier stands potentially. Soft and Wet is a little too high. Go Beyond cannot be aimed properly and its only one bubble at a time. Soft and Wet also isn't physically strong enough to break rocks which is embrassing but it has plunder and is fast enough in close combat.
@@klepikovmd i mean if he uses it behind you, game over, opened up write cant attack rohan kishibe done and he writes increadibly fast, ger shurgs it off because its a direct attacks on giorno but thats about it
@@klepikovmd He can just write: ‘I’m now invincible and no other stand can harm me in any way’ boom! It becomes reality. He could write that if he wanted to. Ofcourse he didn’t though because that would’ve been bad writing and boring for the show, but in theory he could.
@@williamashton5012if you run he can just bring you back, theres an episode where he messes with josuke and teleports him to his stand and beats his ahh
Weather report is easily stronger than KQ and Star Platinum/The World. People dont realise how strong it is, it was one of the only counters that could actually beat Made In Heavem which is why pucci feared Weather Report
@@NoLifeNoDice Weather Report's Heavy Weather is OP because it can't be countered if the user is far away and you don't know how to deal with it. But at close range WR is strong, of course, but not extremely strong.
@@qwe17.What is the result when some group's opinion seems pointless even though they are talking about it like it is the only truth? You might be the one with a pointless opinion. Let me explain why the thing you said is stupid. G.E.R. can take actions and return them to zero. Meanwhile WoU doesn't act, instead it changes calamity in a bad way towards you just by its own presence. Go Beyond, in the other hand, does act. But this action is not considered reality. You know what those means? They can't be countered by G.E.R.
imagine making an unbreakable barrier, that is made from infinite amount of universes just to see it get opened like a can of soda by some pink dude that says "shimimi"
If y'all are asking why s&w:Gb is the most strongest stand in all jojo its because josuke bubble LITERALLY ignores laws of physics, so it basically cant be stopped
@@atnguyenhuy5759 no shit the bubble avoided the calamity because it didn't exist but it did exist. Technically it avoided the calamity and materialised in the contact with tooru. And yes it could have hit WoU but Josuke pointed at tooru instead of WoU.
@@akuuttii it can erase things outta existence so lets say made in heaven tries to one shot okuyasu could just say "ZA HANDO ERASEUH THISUH BASTARDO!" and then za hando erases made in heaven out of existence
i would actually say the world is better than star platinum. the world can strengthen the time stop, and seemingly has no limits to how much it can grow.
Star Platinum is actually stronger than The World. In terms of stats, Star Platinum and The World are similar except for precision and potential with The World being B and Star Platinum being A. The time stop however, it depends on the user's stamina and not the stand. Dio, being a vampire, could stop time longer than Jotaro, a human. When Dio drank the blood of Joseph, he got stronger in his vampire form and it increased his stamina hence the longer he could stop time.
Ok bro this is trash tf you mean Soft&Wet Go Beyond is 1?Makes no sense bruh Go Beyond is literally Soft&Wet but the only thing different is it counter Wonder Of U please mate have some logic how is Soft&Wet beating GER,Tusk,Made In Heaven, D4C?There's no way btw Pucci disrispect is wild he Made In Heaven>D4C,Tusk in terms of mind Pucci>Valentine,Johnny this list is so wrong
@@josefujoestar actually we don't have any proof that he wont support the user, we only see SCR in action when polnareff loses his capacity to control it
@@josefujoestar The user can't even control Chariot Requiem, how can it be used in combat, and regardless, things such as Calamity exceed CR, on top of Go Beyond just bypassing it
@@peyejon6541 yeah but i think in combat chariot requiem is better than killer queen or weather report here, being able to swap souls and kill them on the inside's out with mutation is pretty strong, and also thé fact that every action done to chariot will lead to your stand attacking or stopping you, like you were attacking you own shadow
The situational edges some have over others makes it really hard to pin what goes where e.g. Heavy Weather getting nullified by Pucci disking his eyesight, the Mobius strip trick Jolyne pulled against C-Moon, the dust Iggy left letting him and Polnareff track Cream, every single member of the Duwang Gang against a specific element of Killer Queen, the spin bubbles only debatably existing, etc The way I see this list is being five categories. -Situationally unbeatable (10 and 9): extremely powerful ability with one or more glaring weaknesses that can be exploited to mostly if not wholly nullify the threat. Can beat higher tiers in some circumstances but is reliably beaten in most. Other possible members of this tier: C-Moon, White Album, Metallica, Chariot Requiem, probably more im forgetting -Short scale time manipulation on a CRP (8 and 7): ability that renders them nearly invincible, counters exist but have limited effect and ultimately do not address the problem of beating one, the user is now the weakest link. Handily beats lower tiers in most circumstances, can hold their own in limited capacity to higher tiers. -Long scale time manipulation on a CRP(6): ability that renders them nearly invincible and actively hampers the abilities of lower tiers. Counters are hit or miss and are absolutely crucial to survival. User is the weakest link (Weather didn't beat MiH, it beat Pucci) -Small scale reality manipulation (5): Renders them in invincible in all but a few circumstances and completely nullifies the abilities of lower tiers. Counters only exist in the form of stronger stands. -Suck it nerd, I'm omnipotent (4 through 1) Renders them capable of most anything and is able to disregard the abilities of lower tiers (GER negates the erased time, Tusk rips through Love Train and can move within stopped time). Counters only exist within the tier and even then it's a crapshoot. User is the only point they can be assailed from (WoU lived on after Gappy killed Tooru, ffs, these things are crazy) Pretty solid list, very good attempt at placing the upper tiers with respect to one another.
literally, star platinum is physically THE strongest stand and time stop is just a cheat code against most stands. I think at full potential (indefinite time stop) they might be THE strongest stands. Edit: maybe bellow GER, but I am not sure what "never reaching the truth" would mean in this context
I personally think GER is the strongest stand. At least above WoU. We have seen basically nothing of GER, and it's one and only feat shows that not only can it effectively 1 shot with the death loop, but that it TRANSCENDS FATE ITSELF.
The Go Beyond ability is not more powerful than most if any of these Stands. It was just particularly useful against the specific ability Wonder of U possessed. It is still completely up in the air whether or not it even is capable of half of the things people think it is. It couldn't even one-tap a person. I doubt we'll get the answer in JoJolands either because it doesn't seem like Josuke is even in the picture, but we'll see.
@Hiya Hugo no Go beyond is broken as fck. it was explained very detailed in the manga. The bubble is just an illusion. the reality is that his explosion doesn't exists and just goes off so basically he could murder all of the other stand users without even knowing basically only OP for assassination in a situation where no one really knows who has stand and stuff.
i disagree. first of all, because it does not exist, giorno cant do shit to it. you cant set back to zero that which exists at a state of nonexistence in the first place. second, what would johnny do? not only does he need a horse to perform the infinite spin, but even without that, his regular spin abilities are countered by josuke’s spin-infused explosive bubbles. like i want you to really ask yourself, if tusk act 4 could infiltrate love train, literally why wouldnt s&w, with its nonexistent bubbles?
@@blairblue6769 It could definitely hit Valentine with Love Train, but you forget he still has D4C. Go Beyond doesn't seem to really cause a lasting effect on its target, so Valentine could just flee to another reality and swap with another one and Josuke would never get anywhere shooting him with the bubble. The reason Johnny was able to defeat him is because of the Infinite Rotation Act 4 applied on Valentine's body, which meant he would be stuck falling back down into the hole in every reality he went to.
Id put TIV ahead of Ger KC behind Sp/tW. And most controversially Soft and Wet just ahead of killer queen. Its ability isnt that great all things considered it just worked perfectly for the very niche scenario that was WoU. Its essentially just a ranged version of the hand which yes is stupidly powerful but really any other ranged stand and or strong combat stand could counter it
In a fight betwen Diavolo and Dio, im 100% sure Diavolo would be able to erase stopped time, lets say Diavolo uses epitath and discovers Dio ability is time stop, then right before he stops time he erases time, for example, Diavolo erases time and dio stops it at the same time, then the time stop will happen during the erased time and then Diavolo will have more 4 seconds(time stop is 6 and time erase is 10 seconds) then Diavolo will probably Donut Dio, but that will he his downfall, since Diavolo mostly donut people instead of atacking the head, and to defeat Dio you need to atack the head, then Dio would regenerate, time stop, kill Diavolo and the fight is over, this is mostly what is going to happen
@@creeper1087silver chariot in a stand battle is definitely the strongest stand, but if we are talking about raw power the ones in the video are stronger
@Doomslayer13666 the video wasn't discussing raw power tho it's mainly discussing abilities. Do you think heavens door has significant raw power? Chariot requiem isn't that much more powerful than silver chariot in terms of raw power and its ability to swap souls around isn't useful to it as the bodies the soul of the stand user inhabit still has their stand so would still be able to fight.
stands are made for countering each other, for example, MIH was countered by weather report because weather did not really rely on speed, it relied on the air in it's surroundings.
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weather report solos like half of that list what are you talking about if weather report felt like it he could just remove the ozone layer and everyone would die instantly
While I was waiting for this rework to be true I witnessed every jojo fight gained the golden spin (infinite rotation) I became a hamon master speedwagon made me rich I also gained an incredible stand called stop the cap it has the ability to erase the cap also unlocked its secret ability called da capuro which erases any source of cap from the world 🌎 I also met the joestars.
@@justarandomguywithamask7o7 s&w go beyond is designed to counter wou specifically, so stands like tusk act 4 can easily defeat it, so it doesnt deserve 1st place
Don't forget that the part nine JoJo (his actual name is a bad word in Spanish) with November Rain clapped Rohan in the part 9 manga by outsmarting him. Heavens Door is a very limited stand in terms of it's ability. You can obviously see this in the "Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan" series.
10. Television Weather Report 9. Deadly Queen 8. Star Uranium/ The Place 7. Doughnut maker 6. Made by china 5. The Divorce Papers 4. Pink Samsung Smart Fridge 3. Iron experience requiem 2. Boi is still wondering when is his father gonna come back 1. Hard and sticky go inside
@@bloodysquallofficial3724 I think it includes BTD, which in any place with people is very strong, and in scenarios that aren’t a direct “I know you you know me” 1v1 in a vacuum. Kira can still destroy a person in a touch or with projectiles he has touched.
@@ianantonio8953 bruh If we’re being honest, BTD is so stupidly situational, what would Kira even do in the Coliseum in rome? Plane (Notorious Big Fight)? Sure bombs are nice but the sheer amount of stands that could easily just do the equivalent of saying “no” to an attack is absurd, Kira would literally pass out if he had to fight Hol Horse, Mista, Aerosmith, Bad Company, Ratt, or basically any stand with range, not to say those are stronger stands. Basically all I’m saying is BTD is so incredibly situational that you can’t “what if” it, Sheer Heart Attack is by far the best of them but still has its faults, and lastly, Killer Queen requires to much set up and planning, if not a preset trap than you have to set a trap in front of someone, even if you do, consider that shegechi tanked a shot from Killer Queen, with no cover as a human, A stand like Kraft Work? Solos. That’s why I think that Kira is B tier.
1 ger 2 Dio oh 3 wou 4 mih 5 tusk act 4 6 king crimson 7 d4c 8star platinum part 4(but need a time stop training) 9notrialous bla bla annoying think 10 idk(note I didn't read the last two part
