"They call me problem solver Pete." *as he hacks off his coat sleeve with a knife* Come for the drawing, stay for the endearingly unexpected obsurdity. 💜 Thank you for being YOU Peter!
I feel like if they want you to send it back they should tell you when they email you about sending it, feels weird for me and I could tell it did for Peter too lol
Yeah definitely awkward for the video, it definitely messed with him during recording, whoever decided to request them back kind of made a mistake lol. No hate towards the company tho
Yeah, agreed. Definitely soured my impression of the company that sent out those pens (Bittner), because it seems like they're trying to get cheap advertisement in a rather underhanded method. >.> I definitely won't be buying pens from that company.
Yea just seems odd to send him some merchandise to ask him to review it, and then demand to send it back. Please take your time to talk about my product and then immediately give it back to us. About a cheap of move as it comes lol
1. I like to finish failing drawings. It gives you license to loosen up, and experiment, good things for me. No pressure, go wild. 2. What a beautiful ink.
So, you are being asked to advertise a fountain pen that you will send back. Investigating, all their pens are ASTRONOMICALLY priced. So, the advertisement is a big fail. But, you are still my drawing hero. The Hong Dian Black Forest is a wonderful pen. I use it every day to doodle (OOPS, draw) Love the feel of the metal. No $300 fountain pen for me.
@@peter_draws I cannot tell you how much you inspired me to get back into drawing. (63 years old) I bought a MUJI pen, A black forest pen and refurbished my Noodler's Creaper. Cleaning out my old Rapidographs. I now sit in front of the TV watching Baseball (Phillies) and draw. I am currently waiting on a new ink proof sketchbook. Using Platinum Carbon ink and Sketch Black ink. Thank you so much Peter. I even bought your PDF portfolios. Just for inspiration.
@@flowerpot-h7p I have had Noodler's Black (Bulletproof) since I started with fountain pens. Especially in Noodler's Creaper pen. I now am trying Platinum's Carbon and the SketchInk. The last one is unbelievably waterproof and does not clog any pens.
the reason the hongdian one is so popular is that it's not only cheap but actually good. there are a ton of chinese rip-offs that are cheap and terrible, but that one is cheap and good, so it hits the right spot for amazon success.
Shame on Bittner! Advertisement to almost a million viewers, they should dang well let you keep both pens and the ink. Don't care how nice their pen writes, I won't be buying their product because of their miserliness.
Wth, why would they have you send them back? How cheap is that.. They get free publicity from nearly a million viewers, and they make you send the pens back. Wow..
The company wants you to review the pen and you don't even get to keep it? I think that actually is weird especially because they didn't tell you right away
$12,50 ink... ...yours to keep! A very bad marketing decision, I still can´t believe it, maybe the staretgy was: any publicity is good publicity (also there's no such thing as bad publicity) :D
Yeah its a pen on loan . on down basic but like i feel this is a test try to a ploy to get one to buy the pen its not market badly its not perferd marketing but but dint you get that feeling that you want one after seeing PeTeR DrAw _WITH IT _
Thing is, it doesn't sound like a company, rather like one person because of the word "I" 14:43. No company says "the labeI I provided". They would say "we". This gives it away. Edit: "OTTO HUTT is a family owned business in Pforzheim, Germany, the gateway city to the Black Forest. "... by one person obvs 🙄😁
@@riteasrain @riteasrain I, sometimes we, that doesn´t have to indicate if you are dealing with a company or just a "person". I use I/me and sometimes we/us when communicating for my company, but I always think about it at the end that it would be better to only use the plural form and not to mix the phrasing. On the other hand a single person that uses "we" instead of "I" is a whole other story. Anyways, Bittner the pleasure of writing send the OTTO HUTTs and not OTTO HUTT, or did I get you completly wrong? ;)
Many companies make so much money off of social media, I wonder if they’re testing the waters with how little they have to pay for people to market their stuff.
It's no coincidence lol, I know many Hongdian pens and most seem to be copies of Otto Hutt pens. But I really don't feel bad for Otto Hutt. And imo Hongdian even improved the design in some pens
honestly you're under no legal obligation to send those pens back if you didn't sign something agreeing to before they sent it. really shady on that guy's part. I'd have told him to get bent.
maybe they should have communicated this major point before sending it, it´s like: -throwing a donut to a donut enthusiast, without telling him about the attached string, -so when his jaw opens, ready to take a bite, you just pull the string and the donut is back, unharmed -the "taste" in your nose is yours to keep, donut enthusiast!
yeah. i estimate their cost is around $100 for the whole package, shipped. that's a small advertising fee to pay for peter with his targeted audience and usually 35 thousand up to 140 thousand expected views.
Love that you only tested one pen so you wouldn’t have to re-package it 😆 You give the guy the pen, it’s called the cost of marketing. Probably cheaper for them to give Peter the pen, then place an advert and try to capture the same number of potential buyers in one place 🙄 plus you are saying all his efforts to market your pen , make the video, and then re-pack, then take it to the post office is only worth a $20 bottle of ink.
The best way to probably do it is send him a letter with a direct link to whatever it is. Or even you could send him a letter with your email address on it and he’ll contact you about it.
Out of all the cool things in this video, the little creature at the bottom running the giant biomechanical machine plugged into it's head in the drawing was my favorite! Looked like they're really enjoying themselves.
If you place an order at "the pleasure of writing", are you allowed to keep the purchased item? without getting the note: ...I added some (packaging) peanuts, yours to keep... ...if you are done with the items, please ship them with the labels I provided...
I love how genuinely bad Peter felt for that off the cuff reaction. It reminds me of times where I've said something I regretted and then spent the next half hour thinking of how to take back.
I really liked the ink you used! The drawing looks purple and black but I think that's because you may have applied different amounts of pressure through the drawing. Either way, looks really cool! Like a heart that went through several crazy mutations!
Like many other people commenting, it was so shocking when you tore the jacket! XD I was like "Oh yep, it doesn't fit. Mmh hmm he's just taking it off and setting it aside WAIT WUUUUH... There's a knife now. He's just. Okeh." Love the purple hue in the ink colour!
Hi man !! Have u heard of the ink Mosou black. It’s supposed to absorb 99% of all light making it tnt balckest black that is available !! I can’t get in in my country as it’s like 100 UK pounds including shipping for a 50ml bottle but it’s more affordable in ur neck of the woods .. I’m wanting to buy it but would love to see ur review first
Both of them are not original , if you are into even older pens, you will see that this style dated back literally to the 1920's and there are many such styled pens since , the only difference is that they are black and PVD or Oxide finished instead of gold filled or Sterling as it used to be in those older days
Yeah, well the Otto Hutt company claims it originated in the 1920s, but I agree, it is probably a widely used design that I’ve seen other places as well.
Fun video! RE the "rip-off," I do have a couple of fine Hongdian pens I'm happy with. Write well, seem to be made to last. The 1843 Navigator reminds me rather of the Faber Castell Ambition, which reminds me of certain Otto Hutts.... ONLINE makes a similar pen, too. I guess, in the end, cylinders, cones, textures, clips, materials, etc., are going to have to look like they look. I'm reminded of C.S. Lewis' Out of the Silent Planet, where an Englishman is kidnapped and taken to Mars! (The story depends on a misunderstanding of the "canals".) The plant life is bewildering and hard to see, since it is so different. The man escapes, flees into the forest-ish and finds a stream with a boat which, to his astonishment, looks amazingly like a terrestrial boat . . . until he reflects, what else would a boat look like?
Peter, I don't know if you'll read this but I really like the drawing in this video!! A while back you were in a phase of drawing biological gloopy masses but recently youve been leaning towards more machines and gears and stuff. This drawing is a really cool instance of both. Either it could be a machine with a biological mass growing on top or they were fused intentionally. Or it could be something else entirely. I love your art, your content, and the way you present yourself. Keep it up! :^D
Improving or expanding on a design isn't really "ripping off" though, is it? I think the very essence of ripping something off lies in the fact that it isn't an improvement or expansion on the idea, but instead exactly the same just often built with crappier materials, in turn sullying the reputation and scene of the original thing. That's why the trademark laws are like they are. If you transform a design into something else, the law will uphold your right to do that. But if you simply make the exact same thing that already exists, you're in a different part of the woods.
It's pretty easy to guess which way the design copy went....Otto Hutt is based in "the gateway to the Black Forest" and the Hongdian named their knockoff Black Forest. Pretty in-your-face lol
I do rather like the hongdian black forest for some reason- it was my daily carry for years. I must say, I do enjoy it unfortunately.. Though I have since moved on to other pens.
Peter, I need you to know that you are the mashed to my potatoes. The cream to my corn. The wax to my ear. The lash to my eye. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into your work. You have changed the way I art for the better!!!
Yes, see if we even notice would've been fun!! Someone after you in the comments said he was glad the beard was still in, I never notice. Beards are in my daily life, guess I'm just used to seeing them.
Peter, you must already know there's a video or two from lobster x drawing that portrait of you? Must be cool to watch your very own fan art in the process of creation! He calls the secret things "Easter eggs", I like that.
Wow, how petty is this pen company that they asked you to send back their pens after getting free promo from you? Those pens are expensive, but not exorbitant. They're essentially saying that your promo isn't worth a couple hundred dollars (and I'm sure it costs way less to produce them). For that reason alone, I will never buy from them - no matter how great they are. I don't support scrooges. Long live Hong Dian.
Your videos are always great man, your personality is contagious. Never stop doing what you do. Much love from me and all your subscribers. Live long and prosper bro
Car-mel is a fancy Little seaside community- touristy high end & artsy. It is a beautiful quaint location near Monterey, CA. Bittner is a lovely shop, & serves a community of pen collectors, locals and tourists. Bittner sells a wide variety of pens with focus on unique and expensive. It’s a lovely place to visit. It did seem presumptuous to send a pen without a Previous relationship with you. You provide Super exposure for any item you feature on your RU-vid channel.
The design is painfully close to the Black forest Hongdian fountain pen, which reminds me of how Monte Blancs and LAMY Safaris keep getting their designs copied. I'm interested to see which company copied from whom first. I enjoyed using the Hongdian version, which I felt had a very similar line quality as the Muji Pen. That said, I probably wouldn't purchase a 300$ USD version of it because it's only a steel nib. There's a 400$USD version with an 18k gold nib, but there's a lot of competition out there for that price point.
I would send them the empty boxes back! 😝 or stick a biro in their place .... is that awful of me to say??? That purple ink is such a gorgeous colour bytheway ... love it!
When you unwrapped that pen, I went, "Oooo....that's wicked cool." There's just a vibe that reminds me of Darth Vader, or James Bond. Mabe the pen number should be 007, rather than 04.
Sending back "samples for free advertisement" is such a joke. I'd want to see their faces when Chief of Marketing reported to CEO something like: "We sent our premium pens for a free review to a youtuber. But hold on, we also saved $100 by having them send back the pens after a free review! That was a huge win done by the marketing team! ... On the other hand, now 50k+ people know that we are greedy sellers of overpriced luxury B.S. that was directly compared with a $16 fully functional analogue". Yeah, sounds like it was a very solid and thoughtful plan, for sure. P.S. $100 is because the manufacturing costs of luxury B.S. are way lower than their public selling prices.
Well Peter, I am once again taken with your enthusiasm for a Pen that you initially disliked! It is hard to overcome that first impression , yet you did a review that ended up shining a good light onto their offering and I am sure garnering a sale or two from your video. I know that there must be a few viewers who are not constrained by price and are only interested in the quality of the pen you use. I hope you show of your "Peter Pen" more often in videos and set some sales records! It is reasonably priced and for those in the market for a new or quality pen should get one! I will submit that I did just check and it is currently out of stock, I hope this is good news for you! See you in the next video! Please be safe out there!