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I really like Made In Heaven more than Stairway to Heaven as the last form of Pucci's Stand cause it fits better the character. Like "When stormy WEATHER comes around it was made in heaven" or "Im taking my ride with destiny, willing to play my part, living with painful memories, living with all my heart" like that song fits both Pucci's goal, Pucci himself, the whole Stone Ocean last battle plot... It is just the one man.
@@METAsMETAs Post Whitesnake/Pre C-Moon also has a manual time acceleration where he can accelerate (age) living/nonliving objects wherever he makes contact. Basically, he can make anyone/anything old, so yea.
So I wanted to ask cause I'm still wondering if there's an easy explanation. If Pucci has infinite speed and he blizzes everyone as shown how was it that the group was able to "outrun" him by shooting bullets with kiss's stickers on it from one place to another or when emporio and jolyne escaped from him via the dolphin? Shouldn't he just be faster in both of those scenarios and one shot them?
Dio- defeated by a 20 year old Kars- defeated by a 19 year old DIO- defeated by a 17 year old Kira- defeated by a 16 year old Diavolo- defeated by a 15 year old Pucci- defeated by an 11 year old
Three months late, but remember that MIH still wasn’t completely apparently, even after the universe reset. Pucci even remarks about this before Emporio kills him.
@@user-yv3ke7mg2lmade in heaven cannot evolve anymore, pucci means, mih not only reset the universe, it help pucci to create a universe that he want, but pucci only finish first step but he is already being killed by emperio, so the universe only reset instead build as the pucci wanted way
@@burmecian123 hamon users would die much faster than pucci would have in that scenario lmfao do you see the CURRENTS zeppeli and jonathan breathed in?
I believe the reason Pucci was able to move in stopped time was not due to him gaining any abilities comparable to SP, but rather just as a result of him being the center of gravity. Gravity fields distort spacetime, and it's obvious that stopping time would not affect someone the same way if they're they're distorting time, even just to a small degree.
I believe that only C moon can move in time stop due to his stand basically being Dios stand. I do not believe however, made in heaven moving in timestop because it is no longer the same stand as the world. It is puccis stand.
Imagine you are eating food and once you take a bite out of it, you realize that the food pretty much has been festered with maggots, bacteria and rott
Just wanted to add a few things to the Whitesnake power description at 7:46 Whitesnake is not only capable of taking a Stand and Memory disc, but he can also give commands to creatures using discs (as shown when he commands a frog to explode and blind the guard following the JJF fight), remove various senses from people including himself (As shown during the Heavy Weather arc, where Pucci removed his own eyesight, thus making him completely immune to its effects), use WS to command and control other people (Shown during the HW arc as well, where he uses Anasui as a set of eyes, letting him see while remaining immune to Heavy Weather), disguise itself as other people (shown when he disguises himself as Weather and nearly kills Anasui), straight up melt people, albeit very slowly, and also play normal CDs (shown when he plays Hallelujah following the fights in the punishment ward), all of this on a long range stand that Pucci can talk and see through People sleep on just how busted Whitesnake really is
In my opinion in a combat setting, White Snake is a better stand than Heaven’s Door. While it’s commands aren’t as strong, it has way more range and massively more stealth with its illusions. Plus stealing stands can be really good.
@@abdullahbashir5297 Eh, I don't think so. WS is busted, but only in very specific circumstances. Pucci would've been completely overpowered by Jolyne had he not thrown Jotaro's disc at Anasui. The part would end once Jotaro got his memory disc back
White Snake, in a setting full of people with broken hax abilities, managed to have the most broken hax ability set of them all, since, fun fact, Pucci can theoretically use the stand disks he stole himself as well, wielding however many stands he likes. The only reason not to is that some stands will reject you, and trying to control more than one stand that is not a colony stand is probably a bit harder than most people would want. This is likely the primary reason he handed out stands rather than using them all himself, but imagine if he managed to find even a couple non rejecting stands.
Fun Fact (at least for me that watched the anime only): During the universe reset the anime shows that Kishibe Rohan is getting his manga releases in the date exactly, thus making him WAY FASTER than Made In Heaven. Rohan is basically the fastest to make so many manga panels with shading and everything in less than seconds to publish in time. I knew i liked him for a reason and part 6 confirmed the reason.
He probably used his own stand to write like "Can keep up with sped up time" so he could keep writing, which, if you think about it, could've saved the day if he fought Pucci.
From what I understand, horses are associated with time due to their nature as ride animals drawing parallels to the unstopping motion _of_ time, of which we are riders permanently unable to depart. So there's a pretty good chance that's why MiH's lower half is the front half of a horse.
I saw it as a reference to the Four Horsemen Of Apocalypse. Conquest - Pucci's journey to conquer gravity itself. War - Pucci's "holy war" on the Joestar bloodline and legacy. Famine - As Made In Heaven accelerates time, food spoils and the population is thrown in a frenzied panic. Death - Not only the death of Pucci's enemies, but the victims of Made In Heaven's time acceleration, as well as the death of the previous universe.
Made in Heaven, or specifically what event would happen because of it, was already spoiled for me a few months after I finished watching the whole series (which I did a few months after Part 5 ended). So I already had a concept of what MiH would do, I just didn't know how... *...and it is fuckin' terrifying.*
Some people really don’t know how deadly C-Moon is, it’s one of those stands that can legit kill you in “Only One Punch” if he gets a head hit you’re dead a chest hit you’re dead hell if he hits you in the nuts you’d probably die from shock lmao
@@parry3439 Now that could work. Now that I think about it Pucci was literally trolling Emporio at the gun scene where he was weaving left and right quickly cause he can easily predict where the bullet will travel to
@@mgbm8335 The stand ability loses to just a regular gun because to Pucci the bullets would be moving at well- normal bullet speed he wouldn’t be able to dodge or react And the stand itself has ZERO feats. Even during all of the fighting Pucci himself was the one doing all the damage
It's even more terrifying taking into consideration that this doesn't even take into account the hypothetical of Pucci upgrading his stand to Requiem status. As busted as that (un)holy trinity of stands is, it stands to reason that with requiem it'd be all kinds of broken to an unfathomable degree.
Dio: You know what kid, back in my day to get an ultimate stand you had to take 36 sinners, remember 14 words, take care of a stupid green baby, and go some stupid made up coordinates in florida. Giorno: sure dad just give me my arrow back
When you think about it. MiH technically still have the ability to Speed up aging like what Pucci did after fusing with the Green Baby. Heck he could've used it against the Part 6 gang but he didn't use it because of the range of his Time Acceleration is now the whole Universe so if he uses that ability, all of the other Lifeforms in the Whole Universe will age and die too which is against to the Heaven Plan of making Lifeforms know their fates.
I think it’s more that he didn’t speed them up because he would have lost his overwhelming speed advantage. Yes, they would age much faster than everyone else if Pucci brought them into the accelerated time, but from their reference point they would age normally. Time is relative here. Since MIH has relatively normal stats otherwise, this would have been a really bad idea on Pucci’s part.
@@cia3242 To my knowledge, there's not anything that explicitly states or implies that Pucci cannot pick and choose who is and isn't affected by MIH. In fact, its ability to single out all living things and exclude them from the accelerated time seems like a feat that would require pinpoint control of time. Is it really much of a stretch, then, to assume that he can choose only the Joestar group to be brought into the accelerated time, and not any other lifeforms?
Its kinda sad how C-Moon and MIH would suck to have irl, considering that with C-Moon you just cause destruction everywhere you go due to you being the center of gravity, and MIH not really being useable without resetting the universe
Well most of the stands would suck irl. Emperor is just a gun, Darby brothers take peoples' souls, Killer Queen just makes everything explode (maybe a bit useful, maybe), Purple Haze just kills you and everyone near, same with Green Day, same with the Grateful Dead. Unless you're willingly on the wrong side of the law, most stands would be unusable even if they don't kill people.
@@mirko241 Stands like The World or Golden Experience would be quite useful in my opinion. The World could just stop time whenever you need to, like if you’re in danger.
@@LangXiomeiWell, can’t you cancel MiH? Like, you get infinite speed for a few seconds and stop when the time acceleration starts really getting out of hand. So it’s basically The World with slightly more drawbacks.
I mean for MIH you can speed up the flow of time in REALLY small intervals, like make time move .300 milliseconds faster ( a second is actually 0.7 seconds). This way time wouldn’t be moving too crazy, but you’d still have a major advantage over everybody :)
@@Hkung-mu6cd nah the infinite speed would pretty much take everyone to the new universe.. maybe making 1000 years pass in a second for a few minutes would be better
11:44- glad someone acknowledges how strong Whitesnake is. Casual viewers see Whitesnake as a multi-power wimp that needs trickery to win and needing C-Moon and Made In Heaven evolutions to be a threat. Whitesnake is indeed a physical threat, it’s just that the heroes are unorthodox and use trickery to undermine him. It only gets stronger from there
@@juzox5161 he would only need aja stone mask,people don't realise HOW BUSTED kars actually was. he had 400+ IQ,was a vampire that was immune to the sun,could use ALL life creations so that would include stands as well which was not shown as he may have not known they existed,but he used hamon so he can def use stands too. he could literally BECOME pucci or anyone.
I'd like to throw a correction in. Dio is referring to the fact that he is constantly letting his guard down and relaxing with pucci. Because of this, dio brings up pucci could kill him because of how deeply dio trusts him. Also during the time dio is talking with pucci hes much thinner and the scar is more prominent in his character, implying that the time he's spending with pucci is much closer to the time he recently escaped the coffin. So dio was still at a point where his timestop was 1 second at most, whcih is still a stretch, and his stand is still fairly week because he isn't used to the body
My original interpretation of Pucci stand was that after the heaven plan was achieved, he would have 3 stands. White snake, c moon, and made in heaven. I was spoiled on a bit, but not enough.
Been loving your Terrifying Stands series so far, I was curious if you ever planned on doing a Terrifying Stand Users series, where you discuss the most creative & terrifying stand users, regardless if their stand is strong, weak or average. Bruno Bucciarati, Anasui, Jolyne, to an extent Joseph Joestar, & Part 4 Jotaro, and probably even Rai when considering his raw intelligence.
Honestly the design is horrifying almost ugly Specially if you've seen the figurine they made for it Props for araki for making it look badass in every scene it's in Biblically accurate angel vibes
I think Made In Heaven requires time to make Pucci as fast as FTL. They explained that he could move like bullet train... I understand that while time goes he gets faster due to acceleration. i think there was more like Pucci's Battle IQ demonstration, like how he used palm tree for acceleration which trow him even faster with accelerated time + his speed.
The issue with lightspeed in media is that in order to be able to travel that fast you would need to have no mass whatsoever. That's why photons can travel at lightspeed and we can't, mass will inherently slow an object down.
@@Foogi9000 That would be case if this was not supernatural case :D How i say.. like Pucci himself should not be able to dodge star platinum which is definitely at least light speed or his attacks are like light speed level. for Pucci's case i think that Made in heaven ability made it logical so that when he runs like bullet train its like natural speed for him coz hes only one that somewhat merged with Acceleration so him being fast as light would be that time is accelerated so fast that his normal speed in accelerated time = light speed. he can probably go infinity by the stats of MIH.
@Armored Man it's proven with star platinums fight with silver chariot. Silver chariot sliced a literal beam of light in half (which is a minimum of 15000x the speed of light) and star platinum easily kept up with it.
Awesome video as always Meta Keep it up Also I got a question if you’d be able to answer. I’m planning to do some Jojo’s content starting next year as well and wanted to know if you had any trouble with strikes or claims related to Jojo’s?
Actually made in heaven post universe reset is even more op in fact that pucci able to reshape destiny on his will and able to known everyone fate while everyone what locked in fated position pucci freely move from it but he still get outsmarted by emperio since he figured out how pucci ability that able to know everyone fate work since as pucci said everyone will still in same position event some things aren't same in previous universe Now imagine completed version of made in heaven 🗿
White Snakes power isn't to take memory and stands specifically it's to eject aspects from a person as discs he just used it on those two predominantly
With the snails, the snails themselves are probably not moving at the speed of the subliminal messaging. With outspeeding sp, Jotaro gets caught off guard for his daughter. Both of them show that ws is fast, but not faster than light.
Honestly, Weather Report and Heavy Weather deserve their own video as a terrifying Stand. It is main character levels of strong. Not only did it take down Made in Heaven, but its abilities are straight broken. There's also the crazy implications of what this Stand could theoretically do. Also the versatility in making a space suit? This Stand does so much more than the average "I control Weather."
How do people keep thinking Whitesnake is stronger or faster than Stonefree? Pucci handcuffed himself to Jolyne, thinking to himself, "All I need is a single touch. This should be easy." He then gets beaten down by Stonefree so hard he immediately states that was a bad idea and needs to retreat. How could Araki make it clearer that Jolyne was stronger than Pucci? Was him running from her for most of the arc not a sign for anyone else?
@boh evidence? He didn't mention anything about the jojoveller. Also, that contradicts what happened in the story. If Pucci could one-shot Jolyne, then why didn't he?
@@fewglow5076 "He has a destructive power that is probably equivalent to an A or higher, although the parameters are unknown. He also has a speed of D, but this is probably due to his "mind-melting" ability, and in close-range combat, he's much faster than Stone Free." >JoJoveller I know he didn't mention JoJoveller, but at least it's not a far-fetched statement.
I’m gonna be entirely honest, before this video I thought Whitesnake was the weakest main villain stand. I didn’t even consider that it’s disc swiping was basically a one shot to anyone if Pucci jumps them. I thought Dio saying Pucci could kill him at any moment what just Dio boosting Pucci’s confidence. Really enjoyed this one.
At the end of the anime Emporio in english says he couldnt insert the disc himself and had the slight tap of MiH do it whire narrowly dodging the hit @METAs
Pretty sure the reason Pucci could see in stopped time was because of dios bone and how the green baby was a vessel of Dio himself. It would be quite the reach to say he has similar abilities to SP and TW
Could you maybe do a video on ultimate Kars vs Wonder of U? I think it'd be an interesting match up since Kars is immortal and It'd be interesting to see how WoU could deal with such a threat.
If he outspeeds fate itself, does that mean he could outspeed GER's effect? And is he actually moving at immeasurable speed? If he's affected by Time Stop, then he can't be because in order to be immeasurable you need to be moving outside the bounds of speed, distance or both. Like, your same personhood would have to exist in two locations at once or at different, exclusive moments in time, or you would need to be able to move freely even in the absence of time or, more appropriately, when time has been stopped. So if he's affected by Time Stop at all he's not immeasurable, I don't think. Rather, I think he'd be moving relative to the speed he has set time itself to be. He appears to be moving insanely fast, but he's not immeasurable because he's still moving within his own perception/flow/experience/etc. of time. He still has to cross distances, and crossing distances still requires time despite his incredible speed, ergo not immeasurable. Maybe I'm just carzy and remembering things wrong, though.
I still believe the song made in heaven has a heavy meaning on puccis character, the song made in heaven mentions things being “meant to be” which ties in with pucci and dios idea of fate, and sacrificing his life to achieve his goals
Why does no one get the reason that Made In Heaven's original song inspiration, that being Stairway to Heaven, is literally referencing how the song itself plays out? The thing about the song Stairway to Heaven is that it accelerates in time. It starts slow, with less instruments, and after every refrain, the song picks up in tempo (and in the employment of instruments). And this is a VERY important feature of the song, because the very nature of the song was this increase in tempo, to the point in which it was mentioned to be a core part of it by Led Zeppelin. What does Made In Heaven do? It accelerates time. It speeds EVERYTHING up. And as it gets faster, things get more chaotic and crazy.
Sup, Italian here, we Italians can have darker skin tone, because of northern African migrations during the Roman empire and before it. A Roman emperor, Settimo Severo, was a black man, in fact. At the same time, due to Scandinavian migrations/invasions, we can also have blond hair. Of course it's an extreme case, but this might very well be.
I’m probably late to this, but I’d love to see you make an update to or remake of the Wonder of U and Soft & Wet videos, since JoJoLion has finished and shit ended up hitting the fan!
It says in the manga that after the fusion, White Snake was gone and C-moon was now Pucci's stand. Every stand evolution adds a new ability and incresses the name, but White Snake's case on the outher hand is closer to a rebirth, throwing everything away and ascending to a new level.
3:32 Not just Dio's influence but the fact that killing them deliberately is a part of his plan Jotaro becoming a vegetable to obtain the stand disc Jolyne being taken to prison to bait Jotaro (and also to be killed to cover his tracks)
I would just like to say even the Made in Heaven wasnt the original name, i think it was a fitting choice for a name change as made in heaven at least lyrically still stands up
I think one of the few Stands that could potentially counter MIH is oddly Set... it's unique ability to de-age people as well as their Stand would revert MIH and possibly erase White Snake if Puchi is made young enough Jotaro had his stand for a short time before he met Alessi but merely being grazed by Set's shadow caused him to lose his Stand, in much the same way MIH would almost instantly turn into White Snake again... and depending on how the encounter is written, Puchi could find himself in a VERY bad spot
I have to say that while the choice of making the music interpretation for made in heaven be on the original reference "stairway to heaven" I do believe it would have been very welcome to hear a comparison/contrast to the queen music, if anything for completion's sake.
Here's a thought of something kind of terrifying, Emporio's ability. He theoretically should have an entire past universe or two of ghost objects he should now be aware of to pull from. Maybe?
I honestly hope we get one of these for Cream. Sure, it was a minor villains Stand (one who had a bigger kill count of main characters than the main villain of the Part), but Cream is one of the most powerful and honestly one of the SCARIEST Stands, it 100% could have been a main villains Stand and fit right in with the rest of the main villain Stands. Like, if Vanilla Ice wasn't purposefully trying to scare and mess with the other half of the Crusaders, he legitimately could have killed all three in one swoop. And then likely gone on to beat all the other Crusaders as easily. Not to mention Vanilla Ice being a vampire means immortality too, which is just even worse for anyone fighting this Stand because of the one time you can actually damage and hurt the user, they cannot die without a 100% confirmed head destroying attack. I honestly wish we saw more of the Stand because I feel like there's a lot of unanswered ways this Stand could be used. We know VI enters Cream when Cream eats itself, but can Vanilla Ice do this outside of Cream and create an invisible ball of void he can control and see with the downside being that he's vulnerable? If it can devour anything, what about air? What if it did something like The Hand where the ball of void began to eat air, and started sucking things in like a black hole? I feel like the main thing holding Cream back was Vanilla Ice's single minded use of it, and while it's very unlikely, I hope it gets the same treatment The World or Killer Queen got and returns in the alternate universe under a user who's much more experimental.
You know, with Parts 6-8's main antagonist Stand abilities and how absolutely off the rails they've been compared to Parts 3-5, I can only imagine how the living hell Araki is gonna top it all in Part 9, assuming its gonna be the end. You've got a Stand that literally ends the universe and rebirths it. You've got another Stand that brings good fortune to the user and reflects misfortune while also retaining the ability of having access to infinite dimensions. And you got a Stand that harnesses the series' most powerful concept, being so powerful it could *almost* solo it. Honestly, trying to think of what Araki could possibly cook up is both painful and horrifying.
Remember when the strongest stand in Part 3 can stop time and punch really hard? Now in part 6-8 we literally have stands that can call asteroids from space or jump to different universes. The power-scaling is insane.
3:12 "How come no one older than me ever seems to understand the things I wanna do?" I dont know why but i found it funny that Pucci is older than the whole main cast except for Jotaro. With whom there is a one year difference (Pucci - 39, Jotaro -40)
C-moon is physically weak without surface inversion which is why he stopped attacking jolyne after she used Mobius strips. Jotaro could've killed pucci there if he didn't care about jolyne
On your point about MiH retaining its previous stand abilities, it is not really the same as all of the other “evolved” stands you mentioned. It is different from the ACT stands and it is different from the stands that simply unlocked a new ability. Also, Pucci specifically says that “C-Moon is no longer his ability” after achieving Heaven. Pucci’s stand evolution is completely unique in the series, and is not comparable to other stand evolutions
I always wondered if this evolution was different then the others you listed as he seems to stop using disk abilities when his stand evolution starts & I would ask why he did not remove jolyne's stand or memory when his gravity invert was not working on her. The added stress of avoiding that invert would make her open to remove her stand. Yet at the end it dose seem like he has at least some of white snake's moves but I would say that is because he is reliving a point in time B4 he got made in heaven