I think it is mentioned that Climb will be basically kept prisoner inside Renners room, so he may never meet Sebas again. And even if he meets Sebas, Sebas will probably just explain that he is loyal to Ainz and that Sebas trusts that Ainz desicions will be to the best. Climb will just have to accept that both Renner and Sebas have hoth pledges alligeance to Ainz and there is nothing he can do about it.
Thats what he gets for being a simp it's ironic that Climb and Renner were exactly in the oposite situation of Sebas and Tsuare in regards to ainz Ooal gown because climb was foolish and renner only wanted to F him they essentially got a worse deal than Tsuare who straight up became a maid.
I'd disagree, but only partially. Climb isn't just simply loyal to a extreme but very much the embodiment of "ignorance is bliss". The fact that he would question her motives to begin with multiple times and still look away at the truth that was in front of him makes him willfully ignorant. His fall from grace so to speak wasn't just excessive loyalty out of a feeling of personal debt, but a unwillingness to accept the truth in front of him despite the evidence. His fate is tragic not because his loyalty was taken advantage of but because he didn't want to accept the truth in my opinion. Even with her father clearly killed by his own daughter with his own sword. Climb was willfully ignorant, not stupid or blind. His own inability to accept the truth before him led to his downfall. His fate is tragic, not because of Renner. It's tragic cause had accepted the truth it could have been avoided.
@miloradowicz but his whole goal was to protect and be by her side. Even if he learned the truth of her I think it's only a 50/50 change anything would have changed. He was only in it for her
@@miloradowicz Truth is more like the sun. It shines the light and makes it easy to see all around you. However, you can turn away from it or it can be quite easily obscured (ie: clouds, tree cover). The truth doesn't change, just our perception of it does.
I don’t think he has the worst fate, he basically got blindsided tho but anyways, clapping pretty princess cheeks for eternity doesn’t sound too bad. It’s better than the happy farm, getting eaten alive by cockroaches, and what ever that ugly kidney stone tool using monster has in store for her victims.
In the light novels there's something worse than Kyouhuko (the cockroach prince) and that's an area guardian on the 6th floor called Gashokukochuuou. Imina and Hekkeran (two of the four adventurers Ainz fought on the 6th floor) were taken to Gashokukochuuou afterwards, because the area guardian was 'running out of nests'. He's likely parasitic, as well as his children
It's extremely hard to be sad for Climb when *EVERYONE* else in the royal family knew about Renner and her tendencies, i mean, they literally call Climb "her dog" and "her loyal puppy" and know that the only reason she saved him is to have him be her plaything, but Climb is so blind that he never even imagines that Renner can be something else than his idealistic idea of a princess. Climb is an idiot, a Lovable idiot with a strong moral compass and a hearth of gold but an idiot nonetheless
@@arccedar1132 if having an idiot of a protagonist is typical for the kind of anime you watch, then it's your problem and no one else's. Perhaps try to develop a taste.
@@arccedar1132 if having an idiot of a protagonist is typical for the kind of anime you watch, then it's your problem and no one else's. Perhaps try to develop a taste.
@@Verxx-sc2tl You're both wrong. A protagonist is simply the main character. You can have an evil protagonist... They're not tied to any archetype. A protagonist that is morally good and idealistic is just very typical for 'heroes journey'-esque stories. It's not tied to Japan or anything like that. It's very typical. Being an idiot is usually necessary because, realistically, a highly intelligent person will probably have a more complex understanding of morality and make more difficult decisions. Climb is just the 'hero' stereotype. The typical character you would expect from the heroes journey, with a strong moral compass, something he seeks to protect, a single romantic interest, is weak but grows strong due to his commitment, etc.
In the 14th novel, it states that Climb believes that Renner stayed the same - he’s obviously talking about her facade that he fell for - even though she became a demon. I bet that Climb believed that Ainz forced Renner to become an imp so she wouldn’t have any human on her side and would become so desperate from loneliness that she would give her complete loyalty to the sorcerer king in exchange for Climb’s resurrection. And now, Climb believes that he must become a demon as well to remain by Renner’s side as way to pay for his failure in protecting her.
you sum it up, but you left out that Renner groom him from the beginning and in order for Climb to do a race change to an imp he will need to do alot of evil things to get negative value (in order to be able to use the race change item).
I think this is for the best. In the novel it was implied that Climb is both verbally and physically bullied by majority of the knights, especially those that come from nobles, in the Kingdom. So him being within the tomb is a blessing in disguise.
They are nobles. Most of them will look down on some peasant boy that has the favor of the princess for no reason, specially Climb being just a yes man and with no real ability. Hell Gazef was belittled a lot by the nobles, even though he was the strongest man in the army, they even more of a free way to directly insult him when the princess wasn't around.
@@aoto8897 Simping doesn't always equate to wanting someones love or to be in a serious relationship, simping could be something as basic as just wanting to get laid, or maybe someone simps hardcore for somebody like on Twitch so they can get a false sense of gratification from an EThot. Simping could even fall in line with having a parasocial relationship with a streamer or content creator. We see this A LOT in the VTuber Community.
It's not all bad. He gets to clap thos (flat🥶) Renner cheeks for eternity. But I have a feeling when she starts to level up from Imp to Succubus she may get the Albedo body mods. 🤣
In a way Climb got what he wished for but not as he imagined, while the former Princess got everything she wanted and more, in some ways it's a win, win, however Climb will eventually suffer and maybe our former Princess as well as having imortalty can be a blessing and a curse as well!!
This is not what climb wished for lol, he literally rejected her love before, those that say he’s lucky that he will clap her cheeks as just projecting themselves into poor climb.
@@aoto8897 not because he didnt like her lmao, he just thinks he's unworthy or some crap. You're crying over the most tragic fate when someone literally got eaten alive by cockroaches, or the mage whose twin sisters will now be sold because she got caught lacking by Nazarick
If it either this or the happy farm , ten times out of ten I choose clapping princess cheeks. My pelvis may be bruise and bloody but healing magic exist for a reason.
Oh no... what a tragedy... I will become immortal without any effort to do so and live the next eternity with the beautiful princess that I love and who loves me in a luxurious room in the safest place in the world. What a terrible fate. Climb didn't choose his fate, of course, but I wouldn't dare to say that he in a bad position. He is one of the luckiest sons of bitches on this show, getting one of the nicest possible endings for himself without putting any real effort. Especially considering that 90% of the population of the kingdom were killed.
Bruh you people are so horny… Climb Fate is still sad, he’s literally serving a psychopath, and is forced to become a demon, he’s fate is still tragic, it may not be the most tragic, but still tragic nonetheless.
His home and everyone he loves except Renner were decimated entirely and he’s forced to be a sex slave in the dungeon of the guy who destroyed his home. I don’t know if that’s a good fate.
@@dylanreed2951 he never loved anyone except Renner. The only thing that Climb lost was Gazef and Brain, his two friends and comrades. And he was always her slave. It's just that now she's also fucking him. I'm sure he doesn't suffer from this.
I really hope when ever overlord ends we get details on what happens to everyone afterwards. maybe after climb changes he may come to be thankful to ainz. I can totally see him going apeshit with renner riding him and saying fuck everything else, he got royal puss. It would also be interesting to see what their relationship would be like after a few hundred years
I can see three paths. 1. In classic overlord style he is locked up for life an basically loses all intelligent facets and becomes a true dog 2. He becomes loyal to Ainz and Nazarick and helps aide them in either maintaining their kingdom or in additional conquest 3. He eventually does become a hero or a potential fault in Nazaricks otherwise thick armour, whether on purpose or on accident simply due to underlying morals.
@@AbyssalSoda It's overlord, Nazarick is likely not getting fucked. If at anything I suppose they just go take over the dystopia Satoru lived in then the story goes to cliffhangers.
There were people who were physically and mentally tortured in this show. Brutally tortured and then healed just to be tortured some more. I feel bad for Climb, but he's blessed compared to many other characters.
If you think Climb's fate is the worst you may have forgotten about the four adventures that lied to Ainz pretending they got permission to be there from one of his friends with only 1 exception they were physically and mentally broken for the sake of some pretty messed up experiments In comparison he honestly got off pretty lightly
Demiurge's "Lamb" are more devastating... imagine getting your body dismembered only to be patched up by different body parts from who knows where then being forced to mate with others like you then all your children are made into burger patty to become feed for you then once you're ready to be harvested your skin would be ripped from your back to be made into scrolls 😂😂😂
His every dream will come to pass. This seems like the perfect set up to make him momons disciple and have the princess be a pseudo lord in the human realms to increase the trust of the humans while making climb their next "hero".
Idk. Climb was always not strong enough. He always wanted to protect people. the princess first and foremost. with his own transformation, he could do so better than he could ever have hoped to as a human. Also, Since they are now members of Nazarick, her safety is pretty much guaranteed from enemies outside of Nazarick. So long as he helps her contribute to Nazarick, the princess will ive forever, with Climb at her side.
I guess he means as a character. Overlord had some very terrible situations fall upon some deserving and undeserving humans. Repeated heal only to be eaten alive, be an experiment for that one monster, too many to list. Living forever under a vile and evil person is terrible but I sure as heck don't want to be regen and eaten repeatedly... I already hate roaches....
He got the best of the situation he is clapping princess cheeks for like while everyone else was tortured and killed. Can't feel bad for him when everyone has said Renner is a monster and he is blind to it and just sees her as the golden princess granted all the commoners see her that way even blue rose except evil eye who knows something is off but isn't sure what.
In a sense, he was her only friend, one who would accept her no matter what. A dog she would call him but that is because she knows that she is evil, she knows that she is willing to screw over others for her own good. But being trusted and loved is something she also wants despite her twisted personality as no one wants to be or feel alone. So she will keep him as her own pet, some one who will shower you with affection when you come home, while you are out there out doing all kinds of evil.
its not so much that renner wants to manipulate Climb, she - in her own mind, she loves him. she sees in climb her love of all things. this is why she protects climb. and why she goes to such lengths to get climb turned to demon - to keep her prized possession for ever.
Fate dealt this poor dude a really awful hand. Perhaps one day Ainz might actually show sympathy or even pity for this guy. After all, he would be one of his most valuable Trump cards against the crazy lady, after if you were to find out the truth, and be given sufficient backing by Ainz or even training or sufficient gear. Ainz is a clever and craft a bastard with the devils luck. Plus his skill for strategy is almost without equal to my knowledge.
I can see how sad climbs story comes to an end. like a tragic end. Worst, by no means, in my opinion. I think the most honorable'est way his story could of have ended was by falling in battle next to his friend Gazef.
Sure he was dumb to the point of being annoying but man becoming a yandere psychopath's s*x sl*ve for eternity is a fate worse than death. Boy definitely didn't deserve that.
@@generalgarchomp333 yeah but it'd have changed his perspective on things. He'd probably be still loyal yeah. But he definitely won't be simping. You could be loyal to someone while not being a simp for them.
The workers were used as a birth soil for some worms and they're alive. The happy farm skin you alive and regenerate you at the end of the day. Others are used as food and torture for other Nazarick denizens. Having an eternety with a princess riding you is like wining the lottery in Nazarick dude.
Renner is just a younger version of Lenore from Castlevania, and Climb is her Hector. At least he might be able to avoid being taken for walks on a leash while nude... Hopefully. These yanderes are scary...
Be honest the outcome would have been the same, even if for some reason if he knew the truth due to that strong loyalty, he would have still became a demon
Climb reminds me of the girl who got caught up with a bad group of people in order to save her family or whatever. If they could’ve explained themselves to Ainz then he would definitely understood. But instead the girl gets tortured by shalltear and climb is made a slave
Are you for real? Climb!? Not the Cleric who got his memories messed with so many times that he became a husk? Not the 8 Fingers who can’t even eat solid food anymore? Bahahaha he’s the lost puppy who is gonna get to be with his lady for eternity.
I honestly think Brain is still alive. Sebas owed him and climb a favour so probably something like this. Due to the respect Brain earned in his fight his frozen body is taken back to Nazarick to avoid being destroyed by Certers flames. The capitals main road was untouched and cleaned when the nobles came. Kokidus would be in charge of cleaning it as he only one to care about it as a way of honouring Brain. Kokidus considered trying to recruit him rather than fight but respected the choice to fight. He gets back with the body and sebas noticed and tries convincing Kocidus to help convince Ainz to revive him. Eventually the two are forced into waiting until climb is better (months). Ainz agrees so long as Climb and Sebas can convince a resurrected brain to join or die again.
@@kennethmana3103 I seriously prefer that outcome for Brain. We were robbed. I bet the author forgot about him. His corspe is still with Cocytus, if I'm not mistaken.
Tbh Reistize kingdom if i get the name correctly, already corrupted far worse than it already is, from slavery, prostitution,drugs, corrupt and selfish nobles which being seen during Prince Zannack fight with Ainz army, he got backstab so hard that they able to piss off Ainz, it just matter of time that kingdom will fall. But, iirc there mention hypothesis that if Ainz and his guild not exist, the kingdom will prevail later on with help from Zannack and Renner . Yeah Climb kinda got the worst outcome this one, poor him.
It was stated that if Nazarick had not shown up and zanack, raven, renner, and gazef were to work together, then the kingdom could prosper. However, that doesnt matter since the only reason gazef lived was because Ainz saved him
ok hear me out if i was him and i got a hot demon yandere gf i honestly would not complain at that fact the fact that we will be together forever is just the cherry on top and me persenaly i want to se him become a male yandere so that we get a double yandere couple
Worst fate? not by far He is a victim of course, got played and beaten, but the ones that aren't getting lied and tortured in the dungeon have it far worse
Ehhh…Climb is lucky to still be alive! He is one of the few “good guys” in this series but this isn’t a story about the “Good Guys”…this the story of the Great Tomb, a guild filled to the brim with literal Demons. 😊
honestly as soon as i rewatched the latest season, getting rid of the whole evil vs good thing, i really rooted for her more and didn't even mind the kingdom falling like i did when i initially watched it.
Spending enough time with her would probably change the way he looks at things too. After a while, I don't believe Renner will treat climb as a dog anymore, maybe luv intrest idk dont ask me, and even if he finds out the truth then, it prob wont matter Edit: nono i taKe that back, climb might just be treated like a dog forever, but he might just not care about what happened alr after a long time
i don't get it... he talks in the video about a sad thing... again and again but i'm strugeling to see what he means... i don't see something bad.... i mean yea Climb was manipulated... but both of them wanted to be together and suport each other so that Renner is giving up everything even her humanity to extent there time to eternaty is more romantic than sad... And that Climb is willing to do same shows how far he is willing to go, only because she more or less tricked him because in a direc way he would be to horrofied does not take away that he is also willing to give up his humanity for her! Yea it's shoking and she did some horithig things, i give u that but only because we view it with our moral standards and isn't that more like something that says alot more about us? It's a way more extream sceario but wouldn't you secrefice a life of some one else to safe some one you care about. And for moste of us the answer would be "yes". So i don't get it why ppl condemn what she has done when in principle i would ague moste of us would do something simular when we would be in her position. (not to foregt that she hase to take in count that her kingdom is doomed to be secreficed by a deamon army and a lichking overlord... like fuck every oine elseè U have to get yourself and the one u love in savety and as we kno Ainz fleeing is just a delay... so siding with him is just the logical thing to do)
Look at it from Climb's perspective. Climb was brought up trying to emulate the ideals of the noble knight. Now he needs to abandon his entire mindset, his ideology, everything he believed in to embrace evil and become an (to most human's perspective) abomination. And then he needs to bend the knee to the very overlord who bested him, controlled Renner and destroyed the entire Kingdom. All this because he failed to protect Renner from Ainz in the final showdown. And he probably also fears that if he rejected the deal, he AND Renner would be killed. Admittedly, getting down and dirty with a demon princess is a neat tradeoff but I bet even this would shock Climb. He has no idea what Renner truly was like and seeing her expose her true self to him would only reinforce his belief that she's been horribly corrupted. This is some major existential crisis right here. Besides, it's not Renner siding with Ainz that's the problem. It's her incredible level of indifference and almost amusement for the atrocities she's committed. She shows not one iota of regret or sympathy.
@@pyrrhicvictory6707 that is true but again that is the outsider perspective leaving out climbs (possible) feelings. Why has he become a knight... bekause of Renner! She saved him and as we where tolde in the storry he has dedicaded his life first and for moste to her not the kingdom and not to being a knight. Yes he holded this believes and was true to them but only because of Renner and to a sertant extend. We know that beccause he did chuse Renner ofer beeing A knight or even Human. The Argument That it is dificulde for him to join and kneel befor Ainz... i would argue that it's aktulaly not again because of the reason he became a knight. Renner and her safty is the moste important thing for him so no to keep Renner safe as we see in the anime or mange he dosn't hesitate for a second to agree to the deal. And also a little theory form me... i think he would hesitat to kill some o inocent if it was benefiting or for the good for Renner. Now even more than befor. When you argue Renner isn't sideing with Ainz is kinda true but also not. like with Climb, Renners moste importen Thing is to be with Climb so she dedecats her self to those how can provide that posibility to her. So she might not be directly emotional investet with Ainz like the other Demons that is true but she would never turn on him because the path she has chose being a demon meening she will no where else be acaped anylonger means that she will comit compleatly to ainz's cause to haver her ever happaly after with Climb. That's the thing... In all these discussions it's always left out what Renner and Climb fell for each other. Climb loves her and he fells a duty over anything else to serve her and protect her. And Renner also Loves Climb whant to ceep him close and whants to protect him. For normal ppl we don't get her take on it but it is still true love because she made it so that he was never in real danger and she chuse a path where both of the could survive the catastrophy. And that's my point both of them value each other over every thing else, over the Kingdom, over theyr Frinds and would give up erverything for each other. Renner did that with her status as Princes and al the power and privliges that came with it and the posible safe life with Climb if Ainz would never showed up. (She even tryed to make a step beck and leav her brother in charge totaly only to get a save haven like house where she could say with Climb for ever) And Climb did this as well when he emidietly aceped Renners offer because she is the moste importent for him, and if he had is dought he would have hesitated but he didn't. It seams or at least i got the impression of Climb that he would ditch everything for her. I mean even when the city where attacked he could have jumped in and try to save some Citizens but he didn't because Renner told him not to it no mather what. Both of them just cared about others as long it meant to be with in benefit of both of them. So that's why i think for us yea it seams kinda scetshy but for them... no, they do everythnig for each other even if it means that others die. And this is like trueest love to its routs... like not going in to the moraly moste best direction but in a wourld where a Deamon Overlord is taking over and whant to secrefice the Kingdom u life in to make a statment. To seecrefice everthing u have to safe Your moste loved on and your self is a real sign of love and trust to eachother, from bothe of them.
The thing is. Climb only fell in love with who she pretended to be, a caring, soft person, rather then who she was. A woman who would trade her entire kingdom and kill an orphanage personally, for demonhood and a pet. Renner is a massive manipulator that gives me a lot of red flags. Climb might have gotten what he thought he wanted, but getting into a relationship with a manipulator, never mind a murderous one, is a deeply unpleasant arrangement to be in.
For me the Climb destiny is not one of the worst, in fact I think it is one of the best of all. Living with the person you love and admire being even more important knowing that she also corresponds to you (in her own way) and best of all, even if Climb discovers the truth over the years, in the end he won't care. But honestly, even though overlord is very good, it has a lot of wasted potential, especially with the interaction between characters. For example, I would have liked an ending between Shalltear and Brain Unglaus, instead of dying at the hands of Cocytus. I would have also liked more interaction between Momon, Aiz and Evileye, especially when she discovers the truth. Another thing I would like to see is a meeting between Renner and Climb with Blue Rose's group, after volume 14. Lastly, I would like to see more characters that lose prominence and are barely seen, such as the village of Carne or the lizard men.
Calca had it far worse. She was given no opportunity to talk things out, she was used as a literal weapon against her own people, and Demiurge made sure she couldn't be brought back. What's worse is that Neia and others of her subjects would come to view her kindness as weakness and revere a guy that murdered thousands.
I foresee Climb discovering that Princess Renner betrayed the Kingdom. Most likely this will cause him to snap and kill Renner which I think would be awesome. She betrayed and tricked everyone to be in a twisted relationship with Climb. Him killing her would be the ultimate justice with a good side of revenge.
Atleast if Climb does lose his humanity become a demon he could atleast have an eternity trying to dedicate his life to get revenge for everyone that wronged him he'll atleast have more potential to train with Sebis for a 100 years and someday even build up an uprising during that time being a double agent.
Others called Climb “dog” as a way to say he was blindly loyal and not important Albedo called Climb “puppy” because it depicts a cherished pet that one would swoon over despite being insignificant. Two words with vastly different connotations
Sad, i think climb couldve had a stronger story arc. It shouldve been this arc wouldve led him down the heros path. After the fall of the kingdom shouldve unlocked some hero soul world item or some crap
I do not agree with this point of view. There are many characters with fates worse than climb like those workers in tomb invasion arc. Anyway climb choose to be ignorant when he was warned about another side of the princess by marquis raven. Maybe in a few more years climb will be reborn as one of strongest character for the new world because he's already reach his maximal potential with his old body (what evil eye said). Its also become the reality in ainz's speech about the inequality that a person experience from moment they were born and will be embrace by death itself. He was dead and reborn stronger.
I think you forgot about the foresight member (the Baharuth workers that enter Nazarick in S3), while Archie get painless death the other member are still alive right now, the priest is being brainwash to the point of insanity for the sake of experiments, but the worse fate happen to the leader and the elf girl, they are being use as a breeding nest for a parasitic monster, endlessly being eaten alive then healed back so they can be use again
Worst fate? Nah that simp got it easy compared to what goes on in Demiurge happy farm or those folks that lied to Ains about his guild his guild mates.
I mean, let's be honest here. If we see one of our male friends getting abused and ignoring it since no one gives a damn when woman does the abuse and manipulation. It really does suck to see in real time.
Tragic...maybe... the worst fate in the series? lol... no... not even in the same universe as the worst possible fate... not even the worst fate of characters already introduced... She still loves him in her own perverse way and his loyalty to her will most likely never change especially after being turned into a demon. The boy literally gonna spend the rest of eternity breeding the girl he thought he would never be worthy of... no being eaten/skinned to the point of death just to be healed just to have it happen again and again and again. Think about the other members of the team that infiltrated Nazerick save the one that was granted the mercy of death the others had a far worse fate than anything close to what Climb will experience. Maybe that's just my perspective but something tells me Climb would agree.
Na... thats cool. He gets to be a demon and choose how he will use his new power. Will he ever learn the truth and try to take down the Overlord from the inside? Or will he fully embrace his demonism and go crazy?
I think neither, he was saved by Renner from an orphans fate he's eternally indebted to her and wants to protect her as a loyal Knight, so what happens when that idealised person "sacrifices" themselves to "save" your life? You start making convenient excuses and justifying her actions as she is the only thing he has left especially now that his kingdom has been erased from the map.
He’s whole reason for living was basically for Renner. When he finds out she’s twisted, he might feel conflicted at first but ultimately switch up from heroic to devilish.
