The Most Underrated Era in History (In My Opinion) 

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It's how we teach history in school that is to blame also as an American after the revolution war it all become America centric until ww2 where you get some oversimplified stuff about the world it suck tbh

It also interesting how this era(1500s to 1600s) was practically a mini apocalypse for many places. Japan warring states, the 30 years for western/central european, the fall of the ming dynasty, times of trouble for russia, little ice age, west africa warring state due to the demand of slaves, Mughal conquest of india and even the major population collapse and change of the americans.

True

@@USSAnimeNCC- This shit isn't just America only though. The one time I had Roman history, my teacher just talked about the Teutoburg forest and how "we" beat the Romans. Cool I guess?

Also samurai. Those 4 existed at the same time.

I mean, the 17th century was basically the defining century for what Poland would have to go through all the way to WW2.

@@leonardomarquesbellini That is pretty much the case for all of Europe, since it was during this Era that the modern nation states as we know them were largely established. One of the reasons why it's the "Early Modern" period.

So what you're saying is that Poland needs to create a modern version of the Hussars with Air Cav and Light Tanks and create the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth by first marching south to swallow Belarus and then North into Kalingrad while Russia is distracted. Then a merger with Lithuania and bam.. You can go right back to terrorizing the Russians like you really want to.

@profezzordarke4362 true, but not many European nations can claim they went from superpower to almost irrelevance in just 100 years like Poland. It's almost like God jad it out for them during the 1600s.

THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!

Winged Hussars:

Actually, the reason to drop the lances was the bayonet and the development of more efficient muskests and better tactics to use them.

What about lancers in napoleonic era

@@rodrigorincongarcia771 wrong, very very wrong, first of all, lancers were never dropped in the 1st place like in the napoleonic wars, yes they waned in popularity but that was only because countries thought that lancers were too unwieldy and wouldnt perform well in close range combat, but when napoleon started using polish lancers, everyone shat their pants and started making lancer regiments of their own. contrary to popular belief, lancers were specialized against infantry and squares, they are NOT specialized to fight cavalry, they can fight cavalry, but theyre not made for that

​@@cyrusrosales3127my mistake. I was thinking of pikemen

Because it goes against protestant propaganda

There is an interesting movie set in the 1500s en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Profession_of_Arms_(2001_film) It's slow-paced and authorial, so not really a blockbuster, but I like how they recreated the spirit of the time. It's also interesting because they focus on the introduction of rifles and artillery as such an advancement that it was perceived as inhuman and cruel by the contemporaries, leading to a ban of such weapons by the Church.

Yeah. It goes against republican propaganda to show pre-revolutions eras as anything but a dark age or monarchy as a functionning regime.

Everyone is white. Hollywood won't touch it.

It's not the Anglocentric era

Or any other era for that matter.

Just history

@@Itcouldbebunniesfor real 😂

​@@Possiblyabird234 Just life*

at this time in history the French were hated only in Europe. were as on the rest of planet earth, the "Knights with guns" would've been applicable to the Portuguese maritime empire and their ruthless war machine that spanned almost half the globe, from North Africa to South America to the Far East and almost everything in between.

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5 Sir, this is "Alternate History" not "Fantasy".

@@swissarmyknight4306it’s 2023… I’m not sure what we’re counting from or to but it’s 2023 and you know why that is 😂 Jesus Christ is real bro 😂 you’re entire year to year calendar is predicated on that. And before you go talking about saturnalia and Roman paganism you can stop right there and just appreciate that every time you acknowledge the year you’re acknowledging the life and death of Jesus Christ

Man history right!😂

@Person0fColor I think the point here is “Jesus was just a regular dude, not a god you need to repent to.”

@@UGNAvalon a regular dood? He’s just a regular dood that lived 2000 years ago that every keeps talking about. 😂 if he was a regular dood then why are we talking about him? Obviously he wasn’t just a regular dood 😂 you think anyone is going to be talking about 2000 years after you die? You think anyone will remember you 100 years after you die? Go read clown

So it’s now called shot and shot? Because no dedicated pikemen?

Yup, as the era went on, generals and armchair strategists determined that more firepower in the form of proportionally more musket men was better, but there were only so many you could have before your pikes couldn't defend against cavalry or effectively attack infantry. The Swedes and the Dutch figured out a balance, which is why they dominated late in this period. Then someone figured out the plug bayonet, and pikes could pretty much be abandoned, since now everybody could be a musket man *and* a pikeman at the same time. The problem was plug bayonets went *into* the muzzle of the firelock, and thus you couldn't shoot (safely) with it in, and it required a special tool to extract it. Not long after, the socket bayonet was invented, and was used from (likely) the 1720s/30s until the 1850s, when the ring bayonet modified the design with a locking ring, but really didn't change anything else. So you could even say the design lasted until the 1870s if the locking ring is solely regarded as a modification of the existing design, which is reasonable. The decline of this design was largely due to the thought that, due to new breech-loading rifles, bayonets would become largely useless. However, military men are nothing if not traditionalist, and didn't want to get rid of the bayonet altogether. This resulted in the predecessors to the combat knife bayonets that were largely used in the World Wars. It's ironic in hindsight, but the powers of the world thought that bayonets were on the decline before World War One. (If you couldn't tell, I like this bit of history and tracing how it affected weapons ever thereafter.)

Well, cavalry begun to be armed with gunpowder as well to a higher degree, so there was less reason to use spears, because there was no charge.

they stopped using pike man not because of gun powder but because of trench warfare. the thing most people don't realize is that trench warfare was made to combat polish hussars by the Sweden. as it was better to arm all you're troops with a musket and dig in behind a wall of spikes then have a portion of you're army dedicated to just trying to hold something faster back.

@@butspan7618 And yet, the Karoliner were some of the last in Europe to use pikes in their regular forces...

Which is sad because the Great War of the day, the 30 Year’s War, actually outdoes WW1 in some aspects.

Yeah the 30 years was practically the beginning of the end of ancient and medieval Europe(and thinking) where it was slow death until it was wiped out in WW1.

It's easy to understand them focusing on the founding of their country, especially given they could easily have just died out(There's a reason it's thanksgiving; if it wasn't for native help, they'e have all died off)/

Yes

Yeah it's also far more eventful for Asia aka the centre of the world before colonisation. The Mughals, the Qing,etc all rose in the era, so did happened events which changed destiny of the whole world like Mughal-Maratha war which crippled the Mughal Empire which led to eventual indian colonisation.

Damn heretics

Yup Dutch/Spanish (thanks Habsburgs) VOE was the modern footprint for the mercantile triangle and imperial trade network that would come to dominate the next 400 years. Very slept on and is partly why the Netherlands is still considered one of the wealthiest nations on earth.

yeah good times where you exploited millions.

Austrians aren't proud of the Habsburg monarchy or the 2 world wars btw it's just a partt of history

@@Traxxler based

There's a Shogun 2 mod about the Pike and shot named well the Pike and shot that showcased the warfare at the Surprisingly the pike and shot period is also when samurai warfare reached its heights

@@comradekenobi6908 I tried it out, it’s so good! How has Total War never maid a 30 Years War game, it would be so fresh.

@generaldave7710 they kinda did in Warhammer but I get what you mena But yeah Total war nowadays has no big competition so the content nowadays is lackluster Here's hopping they add Nippon to warhammer 3 because seeign samurais vs demons would be awesome 😁

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I was introduced to this era thanks to the Eric Flint alt-history novel "1632" and sequels - very entertaining story with a fun premise.

i watched Kings and generals about the Ottoman- Portuguese wars in the Indian ocean region and it was quite a disappointment ,as it was slanted so much in favor of the Turks experience, when in fact the Portuguese were the ones who came out victorious and achieved their objectives. .

⁠@@bconni2I think it’s because it was mainly just about continuing the Ottoman series

And vice versa, very little about pilgrims. The most we hear of them is “what we did with all the religious zealots after the civil war”

Here’s an interesting factoid. About half the male population in America (obviously only referring to pilgrim/colonists here) left to go fight abroad against the royalists when the English civil war broke out. The Puritan movement in England was pretty short lived, but it lived on in America and had a giant impact on its early history.

@@p0rq tbh thats kinda what the pilgrims were, just what england did with the religious zealots after the instability of the civila war

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Also for the Dutch, we call it the Golden age and it's basically the foundation of our "nation"

Yeah, On our end, the most you guys get is a general overview unless we're specifically covering Europe or we're looking at immigrant populations. Sometimes, we even skim over our involvement in wider wars

England: Heh look at our religious exiles, they made a colony in America! Anyway, Germany how are you holding up? Germany: Help! EVERYTHING IS DYING! The horror, the horror!!!!!!! England: He'll be fine

Yeah, my ancestors came to the US from Germany and I never knew ANY of this until I started reading a scifi book about a West Virginia town which gets dropped near Jenna in 1631. Its vaguely terrifying to see what Bavaria, where my ancestors originated, was like at this time.

@Mysteri0usChannel Not just for Germans. Anyone from Europe.

@@KellAnderson that series really pissed me off after the second book because it gets worse and worse when it comes to the topics having been researched. But as a general note, yeah, this whole era is covered pretty well in German history classes, although most emphasis is placed on Reformation, 30YW and then Prussian emergence. Funny thing, the big topic in England in the year 1776 was not that some colonies revolted. Nope. It was the bigamy scandal of a fat noblewoman, the newspapers printed 16 page special editions.

You mean the part where the people were pissed with the Prime minister for failing to stop the French from invading their country that they killed him and his brother and ate their body?

Tulip speculation... and ohhhh yeah, the 80 years war that we even mostly skip over in German history classes, just because the whole era is chock full of events. o.O

Yeah a prime minister was eaten by the public. A little side note.

The Spanish sacked and killed entire villages in the Low Countries, women and children included, during the so-called "Spanish Terror" of 1572-1579

@Chicken_Gas an American, we did not learn about that on history at all.

"Your Eminence! Those Protestants don't pay their tithes!" "What?! HOLY WAAAAARRRR!" 30 years later... "Your Eminence! Those Protestants don't pay their tithes!" "Sigh. Just leave them be. I am tired of this shit" Hopefully, next time around we will be smarter. Else it will go like this: "Mr. President! Those others, I hate them!" "Me too! SELF-RIGHTEOUS WAAAAAARRRR!" 15 minutes later... "..."

I've always thought that the Thirty Years War was an inspiration for Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

Early Netherlands history: -fight Spanish for thirty years -make money -kill the Prince of Orange -fight the Spanish for twenty years -fight the French for ten years -exile the House of Orange -make money Repeat until 1710.

Yup

@@warlordofbritanniaDutch golden age baby!!!!! We control the trade

Praticamente in Italia lo conosciamo per i Promessi sposi

as someone who lives in Antwerp; this is my favourite era in architecture, art and music.

But defenestration

I took AP European History and passed and I totally forgot this era existed until this video 🤦‍♂. Focusing more on the "knights with guns" part would definitely make it more interesting to learn (that's why I clicked on the video...it sounded cool lol).

Honestly I didn't really learn much about this period until I took a class in college about European history from the 1400s to modern times . Also sabaton ironically enough really got me into the period

@@mzaa6787 I plan on emphasizing this more next year, because despite having taught this class for a few years now, it only just occurred to me how wickedly cool this is thanks to this video.

@@henrylandcaster1022 Indeed. My students do usually remember the Defenestrations of Prague (or rather the third defenestration that started the 30 Years' War). It's one of my favorite things to talk about. Ya yeet!

There also just an insane amount of dlcs lol

I read your comment and I quickly thought up of this: Play a nation for a few decades, however long you decide, then either go into observer mode for a few years, or even play as your original nations main rival. Then after a few more decades go back to your original nation or even swap to another country. (I will say I've never played EU4 but I've played HOI4 and Viccy 2 alot)

Yep. France becoming a Napoleonic-esque superpower by 1500 is rather annoying. I always play in Europe simply to stop that snowballing. Asia usually stays pretty disunited so I'm less worried about them. I usually have a mod that removes most natives (exceptions being Mexican and Peruvian natives) that way colonization isn't completely stopped by massive united native nations. That way the AI focuses more on colonizing than conquering in Europe.

@@Sodom_and_Gomorrah For the last year, my brother and I have been playing different nations every new age/era. So, we start with any nations during the Age of Discovery say England and Papal States, then once the new age starts (Age of Reformation), we select new nations. This repeats every new age. It definitely spices up the game. We usually select smaller/medium nations to play as.

I think that’s a problem with every paradox game, they are simply too easy and too broad There isn’t enough detail, I think HOI4 is the worst in that with the complete lack of any economic systems beyond vague focuses that affect your PP gain and construction speed that have no actual affect on “civilians” (manpower stockpiles)

I know dood history

And what's even more funny is that Spain, whom the Dutch fought for 80 years, became your ally. The Netherlands' independence and rise to power mirrors USA's so much it's crazy..

The Netherlands did symbolize what made the Pre-Modern period modern so....

As a Brit I do find it irritating that people forget we weren't the only colonialists carving places up. Hell, I didn't even know how Indonesia came to exist until recently!

yet you were beat down by the true powers of the world, the dutch are no more a global power than the ottomans, just another relic of a vain attempt to match more important nations :)

@@7411y As an Indonesian, your comment hurts. From my experiences living abroad it's pretty obvious that despite being the 4th most populous country Indonesia is still pretty much unknown in general (until I say it's where Bali is), but it still hurts lol.

Yeah, they are a big part of our culture even now, though they were basically land pirates

​@@pee_0656love me some land pirates

They also loved committing pogroms

I was gonna bring this up myself, lol!

Thank you for saving me from having to type out a similar comment!

If I recall correctly, one particular Samurai-in-training even got moved into a High Admiral position and led a decisive victory against Tsarist Russia in the Battle of Tsushima Strait - the one of the largest sea battle where battleships really clashed against each other (unlike that glancing blow that was the Battle of Jutland a decade later) before Submarines and Aircraft Carriers did all the naval heavy lifting. So yes, talk about a massive career shift in this period.

The Boshin War has probably one of the greatest strategy games of all time, Total War: Fall of the Samurai. The actual game involves a lot more deaths than the real war for gameplay reasons though.

Ngl, This era can be called as "The Medieval Fantasy genre, but Magic Spells are replaced with Gunpowder."

little buddy forgot to watch last samurai

Plus the drip on that era

Knight with gun following King on griffin

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There's also the Dogs of War who I'd argue are even more this as they were the actual pike faction. Though if you're focusing more on the knights with guns aspect then yes that's totally an Empire unit.

@@stryke-jn3kv TEB's southern realms mods for total war: Warhammer 2/3 absolutely slap, adding in the Dogs of War and a fuck ton of true Tercio-like units

@@Nomadith wasn't a fan of it myself, but it is certainly really impressive for a mod. Assuming the game survives long enough, and that's a big assumption currently, we will get them as an official army pack as lords like Borgio have been data mined so hopefully I'll like that better

They're the same thing?

@@michael2636 cavalry is horses, calvary is crucifixions

@@banjoe05 Specifically Calvary is the hill upon which Jesus was crucified.

I kept waiting for him to pronounce it right, but...

Calgary?

Was it good?

@@concept5631 I personally loved it, it was such an old-school swashbuckler movie spiced with some crime-thriller. It had beautiful cinematography, three dimensional characters portrayed by the best french actors, subtle humor, well-crafted action scenes and the whole world was created with a lot of passion, it really takes you back 400 years in time. They didn't wear armour in this one, but the siege of La Rochelle will be in the second part of the movie wich I haven't seen yet.

@@marton_dobo Nice

Name of the adaptation?

@@mrcopycat2355 The Three Musketeers: D'Artagnan (2021)

Too late to adopt gunpowder, too early for automatic gunfire. Born to shoot forced, to muzzle load.

​@qwopiretyu Born just in time to be a peasant in Japan defeating Takeda clan feared for its cavalry by using matchlocks

Same. I love Pike and Shot. Anything from the Burgundian Wars to the Great Northern War could fit under this period. The little ice age and the climatic struggles during it are just so underrated.

Now, imagine how lonely I feel being obsessed with 1500s and 1600s South America

Your not alone I love the early modern period

To be fair, it was also barely populated and starting from scratch

to be even more fair, it was like 3 shitty ass english colonies, not america. 1 of which was roanoke, 1 of which was virginia which was famously garbage for like 50 years and the other was basically boston which has sucked for 400 years straight

Its ok dude noone meant offense​@@trumanbadra8003

The Spanish really didnt do much in the East Indies compared to the West Indies. Portugal, netherlands and England seem far active in the east indies/Asia.

@@Disident-7 i know

There was also some cool Far East piracy going on I believe. Even some equal opportunity ventures, where the wife or mistress took over the operations. History Time and Voices of the Past, brothers, have some incredibly well done videos on this period.

@@Draregkoeliekalie I'm counting the Philippines as part of the East Indies. The Spanish were also in Micronesia, and did some early voyages around New Guinea and the Solomon Islands

And the Sengoku period. Japan has a LOT of works about it.

How does the gravitational pull of the earth influence Satan’s minions on earth, aka vvitches and Papists?

​@@warlordofbritannia-your average English puritan

@@warlordofbritannia Why are you spelling it “vvitches” instead of “witches”?

@@syrialak101 For funsies

@@lordofdarkness4204 That was also probably Newton himself, he was very religious.

And it's that dedication to topics seen as niche is why people like you got me into history Thanks mate

Thank you for being an awesome history teacher.

Hansburg? Apparently a typo . France vs Habsburg .

A world history teacher likes I wanna be the guy? That's omega based.

HAve you ever read Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen by H. Beam Piper?

Based Ring of Fire enjoyer. I love that book series.

Based Fantasy enjoyer, summon the elector counts

Exactly the same here It's corny, but the Ring of Fire series is just good old fashioned fun alt history

Ring of fire is what got me so hooked on this era of western history, a shame the author died recently :(

And yet at the same time you had vvitch trials, religious wars, and humor medical theory. Such an intriguingly transitional period

@@warlordofbritannia Ying and Yang my friend. With every good there’ll be evil. While with every evil, there’ll be good. Makes sense?

@@Butter_Warrior99 That’s kinda what I mean-it’s almost a mishmash of two distinctly different eras, the medieval and the modern

@@warlordofbritannia Glad we agree. Hard to find that with digital discourse.

Meanwhile on tik tok "why men think about rome" I'm sorry but men who have an obsession with rome where they think rome is just awesome are probably extremely dumb men who don't know a thing about rome or questionable guy who still happy vote republican

it's about as fascinating as the difference between the sunni and shi'ah for muslims... bunch of fools killing each other over a magical sky daddy that is "the one true magical sky daddy™" and then on top of that the christians killing the jews and muslims over the same magical sky daddy not realizing they just named him differently... all three of you are a bunch of fools...

Nice finding out that your religion was the catalyst for 30 years and more of utter atrocity and complete wastelanding of central europe. /jk

It's such a weird thing started religious war then like 10 years later it turned into a full on political drama of a secretarial war

That era also saw the rise to power of the Presbyterian Reformed church in Scotland, who were a bit like the Taliban except they insisted people should be able to read their bibles. That led to a big increase in middle and upper class literacy and the Scottish Enlightenment a hundred years later. And helped kick off the English Civil war when Charlie I and Bishop Laud managed to upset the Edinburgh mob with the book of common prayer.

As a Catholic, I concur.

To be more accurate, in the late medieval period, arquebuses were lighter guns and weren't very heavy, while muskets were heavier guns that required stands to aim in exchange for heavier firepower

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And then incest happened

@@somehistorynerd Haha incest-chin goes brrrrr

And inflation

​​@@somehistorynerd all the kings at the time had incest, wdym

​@@unflushablepoo8243 inflation didn't really affect the empire, sure, there were times in which it did but the collapse of the empire had nothing to do with inflation

Richard Harris Alec Guinness Timothy Dalton in Cromwell? Slitherine games has a turned based strategy called Pike and shot it’s this period fought on a turned based board

Same lol good to see another Man of Culture. Classic game🤌🏽

Love Mount and blade

Fire and Swords was awesome, luv me dragoons

Same. Theres a reason the end of the 30 years war is considered the "Modern Era"

Same I’m a big fan of the late Middle Ages and age of discovery era where pike and shot was used

@@fatherceltics2379 Honestly man the Germans have always been interesting to me especially Brandenburg-Prussia.

@@artoriuscasca424 Dude the late Middle Ages were so Intense so much happened. And the age of discovery is an era I wish I was in. Exploring a brand new continent just sounds so fun.

And The Age of Pirates 🏴‍☠️

I don't think Louis IX was present in the 16th-17th century. You must mean his descendant Louis XIV, the Sun King.

@@Arbelot My mistake.

Ah! I saw Viggo mortsen and I was wondering what that was

What movie?

Eh...not really. Now in looks and feel the movie is fine but the makers didn't know if they could get to make more Alatriste movies (It is based on a series of books.), so they just made one movie that spans the entire length of the series. Imagine if Lord of the Rings had been condensed into one two hour movie.

@@Pikkabuu so basically Weinstein brothers version of Lord of the rings before Peter Jackson moved to Newlinescinema.

@@PikkabuuSo it’s the Anti-Hobbit trilogy in that there’s too much content that wouldn’t fit in a single movie.

Same! Made me interested in taking college history courses and things like that too

So you should check out medieval 2 Orient & Okzident mod and the tsardom mod

When you really think about it every story you've ever heard about monsters, men, dragons and factions from 40k to lord of the rings to star wars theryre all based off of really old written fictional stories which are all roughly based off of real events from this time period. This truly is an era so rich in history not enough stories can tell.

Same for me, probably is my third favorite era after Ancient times and Feudal Japan.

Glory to Ukraine, land of the cossacks

​@@Game_Herosurprisingly after some digging cossacks a re a pretty broad term There are Polish, Ukranian, Russian, Belarusian There are even some tatar ones Those guys would made it as far east as Korea, Japan, China, Mongolia and even alaska

My uncle has a cossack sword that was passed down through the family (russian side) Not sure the story behind it but I can't imagine the thing hasn't seen blood

@@nuckels188 does the sword have no guard?

@@comradekenobi6908 I honestly don't remember, it used to be on the wall at my grandparents house but i havent seen it for years at this point. Why do you ask?

I'm not confident the Total War warscape engine can handle pike and shot, even though Shogun 2 mods had it. It's been decades since Total War has been properly able to simulate pike formations being able to keep enemies at a distance.

The closest game to pike and shot is ironically probably shogun 2 which doesn't even take place in europe. That combination of guns that can be good, but also complete trash compared to some conventional tactics, is super interesting and I would love to a return to it if they ever made a game in this era.

@@Michaelonyoutub That game however is really bad at modeling pikes. Everything has to trigger a 1v1 fight animation which makes it impossible for pikes to actually provide cover for the teppo troops. Troops will easily just phase through all the pikes and engage in sword melee and the AI for the teppo troops is going to prioritize trying to fight in melee and breaking formation instead of trying to keep as many guns firing as possible.

@@Michaelonyoutub and Shogun 2 shows that TW engine need very huge overhaul if pike and shut would ever work. Hell, they never actually got even Roman legionnaire tactics right in Rome 1 and 2. If they want to make it theý need to fix that god damn problem with units being stuck or blub up when they try to pass through each other.

It's not a strategy game but Mount & Blade: With Fire & Sword takes place in mid 1600s Eastern Europe. It's good

By which painter when?

This painting has a sad history in fact. The french catholic government besieged La Rochelle because it was a protestant city and friends with the english . The red character on the painting is " Le cardinal de Richelieu " a powerful politic and religious personnality, he's the one who commanded the siege. During the siege , more than 85% of the population starved to death and La Rochelle was one of the biggest cities of France . As someone from La Rochelle , it's always cool to see this painting in totally unrelated videos

​@@Nukecorp3bro was simping without knowledge

​@picavant I don't see how this is sad. Sure, the civilians suffered, but that can be said of any and every war. On the other hand, La Rochelle was an almost-ennemy state in the state. A major port city befriending a primarily maritime power who also happens to be an ennemy of the state is never a good thing. The siege was entirely justified and even necessary.

Even from the southern french protestant point of view , la Rochelle was a traitor city

America fought a war with the French and bankrupted the crown. Then they fought a war with the British and bankrupted the crown. When they asked for some funds to cover the charges we declared war on them. Boss move

@@Person0fColoras a British person It was slower and more complex then that but America had most of the reason for the war

The craziest part about the 7 years wars is that George Washington action started the figthing in North America by kinnaping a french diplomat (the french and Indians wars in the USA or the war of the conquest in Quebec (were still salty about it) witch lead to the battle of Quebec witch costed a fortune BC the Brits sent like 200 ships and 10k men and the destruction and reconstruction of the city witch the Brits made the Americans pay..... So George Washington accidentally caused all of it, the french and Indians war and the revolution is all because of him and his shananigans 😂 bro singlehandedly caused the downfall of the British in the 13 colonies and almost nobody realizes like it's ridiculous that the 7 years wars ain't explored more in Canada and the usa bc it's shaped both countries future.

@@AdistuffRBX I forgot more than you know bud. My comment still stand we bankrupted we both crowns and had them wage war against each other and in the end declared independence

@@Person0fColor there was no “you” America was British, part of us, ethnically, linguistically, culturally, more so then Germany and Austria, more so then Bavaria and Germany. We shared religion, a flag, etc. you didn’t make a plan because you didn’t have a ruler unless you include crazy king george

I find it suprising that we don't learn much if at all about it in Poland despite how important role country played during conflict - from beeing literally the center of european diplomacy due to neutrality, proximity and religious tolerance as well as despite not beeing offically participant having some conflicts with other 30y war participants that impacted the conflict especially on the beginning. It can also be due to the fact that it fell directly between polish occupation of Russia and Cossacs Khmelnitski uprising latter of witch dragged PLC into series of conflicts that devastated country as bad as 30y war devastated Germany if not even more (in absolute terms the value of destruction is estimated to be compared one of WW2)

Kurtzgesagt, the 17th Century Germany was one of the worst times and places to start your Civilization game.

Kinda crazy if true for university people... Because Westphalia literally created the modern international relations regime... (French here, we did cover the 30 years war extensively)

Really? Which state are you from, we learned nearly nothing about it.

​@@jangroberde2822I think you can't generalize that. I did it reasonably well, siblings in the same school only did it in one lesson. Literally only 2 pages in their book.

To be honest late medieval and early modern periods are the only ones when Bohemia was important in global events. You basically invented European religious wars (to became one of the most faithless countries in Europe). :D So it is nothing weird you may overemphasize this part of history. :P

@@Hadar1991 I wouldn't say that we overemphasize this part of our history I'd just say that its kinda like the main subject when it comes to our history, kinda how american history classes mainly focus on the revolutionary war, we focus on this period of Habsburg rule, but I pretty much agree, I mean we literally invented the word defenestration aka the fancy word for yeeting someone out of a window :)

It's similar in Hungary, as it's a period where at the start we were arguably at the height of our power then in a few decades the Habsburgs and the Ottomans did a splitsies and then fought for a 150 years. It was definitely eventful

@@ondrejhons704 And you already yeeted an important politician in Prague of out the windows at least four time starting at least two major, multi-decade wars. That is an interesting CV. :D

Defenestration is now my favorite word thanks to y'all.

I personally know three historians specialized in them. You cannot stop them talking about Habsburg for hours on end, and the jawline will never even come up. It really gets old soon. In my teens I read a lot about Charles V, but these people are on a wholly different level.

or the collapse of spanish dominance in europe. if the war for spanish succession never happened its possible they would have reformed their government and held the colonies longer. not to mention fought the french much better in the war with napoleon.

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Thank you! I was about to write a comment asking what movie that was.

Portugal is just as important. First global superpower defeating the turks in the battle of Diu in the early 1500s. Portugal is such an underrated nation.

@@anotheraccount444 Yes, Portugal is underrated in that period. But it’s not as important as the Spanish or the Ottomans.

Yes, Ottomans were gunpowered. Although my national (Serbian) epic poetry sings about sabres and shields, it was all GUNS very shortly after Ottomans entered Europe (15-16. century).

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En colombia es igual solo te dicen los españoles mataron aztecas y se llevaron el oro y de ahí un salto a la revolución francesa

@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 Si, una prueba mas de q sois colonias gringas.

For us it's mostly about empires of indian subcontinent and how the British f*%ked us over with a little bit of western industrial revolution.

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For sure this seems like a cultural difference between the US and Europe as in the U.K. we cover this era a decent amount.

I think it really depends on what classes your school offers. I’m from the US and last year I took a European history class. A lot of time was spent on the early modern period for us. It was funny though going from that to US history this year, and ignoring all the chaos that was going on in Europe

In general history classes in the USA, this whole era we focus for the most part on American History and the founding of America. It makes sense, but I will definitely say that the ongoings of Europe during this period did become a fascination of mine in my adulthood because of the lack of education on what was happening across the pond in those centuries. Like we focus a lot on the piracy in the Caribbean and the colonial empires of France, Britain, and Spain because those directly correlate with our founding and history but if you ask most Americans or Canadians about the French and Indian War ( The Seven Years War), we tend to mostly only think of the North American theater of it and pay no mind to Austria or Prussia in that conflict.

Which country are you from?

I'm from germany, and I we didn't really talked about this period that much in school. Just for reference, my time in school ended in 2017, and I took as much history as possible. I can't say it with certainty, but it was like 2 to 4 hours for the 30 years war, and this was the thing we talked about most considering this whole period in Europe, means pretty much nothing else was covered. But we talked about the discovery, colonialism and the settlement of the new world. So not that different from what is described in the video (maybe minus the pilgrim stuff, that was only covered briefly). I'm gonna use this comment for a recommendation, because why not. Check out 1632 by Eric Flint, if you wanna have a good and funny read of fiction set in this period (as you can guess by the title, lol). It's about a west-virginian mining town which gets thrown into the midst of thuringia in the 30 years war, and features the battle of Breitenfeld, Gustavus Adolphus, Wallenstein and much more. And it might sound silly (which it kind of is as a concept tbh), but its actually a very good read.

Sure, but who wants to march 1000 kilometers and fight a battle in the cold?

@@CarrotConsumer Mostly Europeans apparently. I doubt it comes up often in the Middle East. And we Americans are a special kind of crazy- why march there when you can splash across a freezing river instead of have Christmas Dinner.

is there alot of racial tension like the united states? between colonizer/native/slaves?

south american history in the XVII century is crazyyyy!

@@trevorcole6360 yes and not at all, people would rather ridiculize you for being from some state, city or being fan of a team

id rather that than listen to the " yuou owe us this and you owe us that bullshit" @@uppervolta6680

We really only ride "The Three Musketeers" to death...

@@profezzordarke4362 Now we have Puss'n Boots. Pussin n' bussin

You should look the Saltpeter War of 1879 and 1882 between Chile, Bolivia and Perú. Shit was wild as all fuck

@@sirnikkel6746 I will!

Getting shot is kinda cringe. The superior pick is obviously King Adolf Fredrik who knew nothing about leading an army, even less about running a state and who went out in style, eating pastries. To this day you can't say "Semla" without thinking about this absolute legend.

@@apotato6278 Axel Oxenstierna is the slightly unsung part of that. The man who would build up a somewhat modern buerocracy that was more than a travelling sphere of control around the person of the monarch.

Gustavus Adolphus was a very interesting warrior king

@@SusCalvinAbsolutely. Sweden as it is today could not exist without the brilliant statesmanship of Axel Oxenstierna. As for the reason I'm so fond of Adolf Fredrik is because he's hilariously mediocre. He gets into power through a bizarre chain of events that sees him essentially selling a young (exceedingly stupid) child to the Romanovs. This gets him Russia's backing in becoming King of Sweden. As King he creates political gridlock because he's so passive. His wife Lovisa Ulrika, Frederik the Great's little sister, tries to expand the power of the king but to no avail since Fredrik prefers woodworking to actually ruling the nation. Eventually he agrees to expand royal power and goes on a tour of the country to garner support. This fails miserably and the Riksdag essentially threatens to behead him if he doesn't behave, after which he becomes so inefficient that they introduce a royal stamp because he can't be bothered to sign paperwork. Finally he does something incredible, something which would define his legacy, and he eats 14 large servings of pastries and suffers a stroke. He dies on the spot and is forever remembered as "that king who died while eating pastries" (few actually know his name).

Karl X Gustav är min personliga favorit.

If your into science fiction you should check out warhammer 40k it's basically Sci fi nights woth guns to the point their is a faction based on the teutonic order

It's the same here in Sweden, largely thanks to our wars against you guys. It's too bad we didn't become a part of the Commonwealth under King Sigismund/Zygmunt III. Imagine what an absolute monstrosity the Polish-Swedish-Lithuanian-Finnish Commonwealth would have been. It would have stretched from the Arctic Circle to the Black Sea and contained enough ethnic minorities to make a Habsburg Emperor blush. Oh well... guess it was never meant to be.

@@apotato6278 Yes, the combination of Swedish infantry plus artillery and Polish hussars would have been unbeatable in the 17th century. But due to religious issues, such an alliance was impossible at that time. In hindsight, it's a pity.

If only the PLC wasn't hindered by its own bureaucracy and the "liberum veto"

Fr, we're taught this time period in Europe probably because all of our nations were doing important things, especially the countries with empires

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It's quite typical of western countries

@@obvious-troll*gekoloniseerd, my guy

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Absolutely! All of the above are great!

The Americans were the ones writing the modern abridged version that this period in the Renaissance full of bloody conflicts were forgotten or vague by the rest of the world.

Cowboys we’re not 19th century highway men. The cowboy mythos is an indelible part of the American cultural experience unique to America. The whole idea about the West and freedom and the cowboy who by proxy stood for American restlessness and liberty came about during the 1890’s with the rise of the Hollywood film industry, the settling of the West and Fredrick Jackson Turner’s “frontier thesis”.

@Person0fColor ok I never said cowboys were real, I simply said they were 17th century cowboys. Real cowboys were ranchers, what we think of cowboys would've been outlaws and bandits... similar (not the same) to highway men. Yes I'm aware that the concept of the cowboy is entirely false and propagated around the time of Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley and then further got exaggerated by Hollywood wanting to do a "good Ole days" and other pro american propaganda. And yes I'm also aware that the true wild west was a lawless land that supported many of the country's outcasts from women to queers to trans to poc, not to mention people who commited actual crimes, oh, and don't forget prostitutes, they built them cities. So yes, I'm aware of the falsehood that is the Cowboy, but I'm also defensible enough in saying Highwaymen are 17th century cowboys. Especially because certain highwaymen in the time were both romanticized and feared by the people of the time and after.

@@uniquely.mediocre1865 no real cowboys weren’t ranchers those would be the cattle barons. The real cowboys drove the cattle heard to market there was actually lots of violence between a those that drove the cattle beards to market, the cowboys, and those who raised the beef on the land the ranchers. Cowboys despised the advent of the fence in the west as the ranchers were literally putting up fences that were impeding on the cowboys ability to drive their beards to market and lots of fighting broke out between cattle Baron and cowboy… wrong again.

@@uniquely.mediocre1865 trans and queers 😂😂😂😂 Dood you don’t know anything about the cowboys, America heritage and for that matter the film industry. Hollywood didn’t propagate the notion of the “cowboy” it was Fredrick Jackson Turner and his “Frontier Thesis”. That paper coincided with the last settling of the west in the early 1890’s You are trying to grasp a straws to sound intelligent and it’s just coming off as ridiculous I can tell you don’t read about cowboys or that part of history your just grasping to find anything to fit into your narrative. I mean for Christ sake you don’t even know who Fredrick Jackson Turner is a what he actually did, he more than any other man set the Frontier myth front and center of the American Epic. Go read some more please you sound childish Trans and queer and POC 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@uniquely.mediocre1865 what does robbing people on the highway in 17th England have to do with driving cattle to market? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

War is the skeleton of history that you build the flesh and skin onto. War has defined dates, whereas social/religious shifts often don't. It is also often a clear point for social and economic shifts that may occur, as well as the motivation for political acts and their consequences. It's hard to get away from i guess

I know right? There’s so much interesting history that’s not related to war: Mansa Musa’s travels to Mecca, the absolute cluster fuck that was the south sea bubble, the voyages of Zheng He.

Another great song with a big history: "Stille Nacht" / "Silent Night" was composed in 1817/18 right after the year without summer. ... It's the haunting music of pious people close to starvation in the cold, adoring a sleeping child. It always drives me to tears.

@@1415Agincourt1415 I think that's a good point, although I would say the unfortunate side effect of this is that war is prioritized in history classes and among the population's general knowledge of history, to the detriment of cultural, economic and political history (although political history is often included with wars for context so it's less overlooked)

@@1415Agincourt1415 I like your thinking.

The beginnings of the Old World mindset that ran society for like 4000 years was slowly going away. Middle World time babyyyyyy

There is a great dnd clone called "Lamentations of the Flame Princess" which by default is set during Thirty ears war

it actually isn't overlooked, it is just such an unfocused and complex era, that whenever it is featured in Media, you've got to focus on a very small part of it. Every Swashbuckling Story plays in that Era, Almost every Fairy Tale adaptation plays in it, everything about "historical" monster hunting features it... It is there, it is featured, but we lack a concise picture of it because it is so much. Which is really silly, sinde it's only 2 centuries compared to the 10 that was the "dark" and medieval ages of which we often have a much more coherent picture, since the general style of society and warfare and culture developed with a much easier to understand direction. Rome falls, land is ungoverned, Feudalism erupts, the last heathens convert, mail armour and heavy swords, first knights, frankis empire evolve trough the crusades and the islam ruling of iberia bringing in clear oriental influences to central europe and the british isles and the HRE towards the Renaissance when we get the glory that is Full Plate Suits of Armour, Fencing books for the Long Sword and the increasing influence of the Guilds. Whereas the Early Modern Period is as you described, a big mumbo-jumbo of cultural identities forming, nation states being established, all while science and religion clash with each other and one of the most devastating wars ever utterly destroys central europe.

Doubt. That cake goes to basically all of African history except Ancient Egypt, basically all of Mesoamerican history, basically all of Indian history, some good portions of Chinese and Japanese histories, basically all of Korean history, basically all of Polynesian history...

@@AtHEEstorybasically the “non white places” 😂 Does that include the Pontic steppe? You do realize all of Europeans share the same ancestors as Asian? It’s not a race or a context dood. When Iin Rome do as the Roman’s do. When somewhere else, do as they do elsewhere. What do you expect you expect?. white Protestant Anglo Saxons to teach their children about Chinese history? Or the history or Paraguay? 😂 The funny thing is you probably have a surface level understanding of all that historical perspective and somewhere out there is a white guy that knows way more about all that than you 😂

@@Person0fColor So what? You're acting obnoxious. OP was claiming pike and shot was *objectively* the most underrated era of history. It may be from a white American Anglo-Saxon perspective. It isn't from a white European Anglo-Saxon, or any other white European perspective. Pike and shot is a style of warfare, first and foremost, and not an era; in any case, 1450-1700 is one of the most saturated eras in European education, fiction and non-fiction writing because that's when most of our relevant history began to happen. It's not "objectively" underrated at all. Not outside of the USA, anyhow. I've given you a bunch of historical settings that are much more "objectively" underrated because hardly any people *on the Planet* know anything about them. That includes myself and most other white Europeans and Americans but also Latin Americans for Mesoamerican history, Africans for some African history (admittedly mostly due to the effects of colonisation on culture and a lack of thorough education in much of rural Africa), Asians for some Asian history etc. There's more to the history of Japan than the Sengoku and Edo periods; there's more to the history of South Africa than the Anglo-Zulu war. Most people barely recognise that. And finally, you're the only one here who ever brought up race. All we did was list historical periods and settings, what colour of skin was had there was entirely immaterial. Until you brought it up in your white-ass butt-hurt whining. Which tells us nothing of me or OP, and a whole lot about you. Chiefly that you're an asshole, if you didn't get the gist yet.

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The Thirty years war is the most important war nobody talks about.

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Do you have a specific video recommendation for the japan western tech introduction thing?

when you say western tech, you mean the tech the Portuguese first introduced to Japan. ? like firearms.? ship building, naval warfare & navigation technology. ? i'm almost positive it was the Portuguese specifically who first introduced these technologies to Japan. "Western" is a very general term for example, in Japanese schools they teach their children that the Portuguese were the first Westerners to land on their shores and first introduced their technologies to Japan. they're actually very specific about who these first arrivals were

@@bconni2 I get it, you must be a proud portugese pr something. But saying western is not innacurate, even if it is a generalization.

​@@lebendigesgespenst7669 but you're being intellectually lazy, and it's a passive aggressive way to denigrate the Portuguese influence in Japan. imagine, if it was the other way around and someone referring to the Japanese as the Easterners.? they're technically not inaccurate either, but we all know they should have said " the Japanese". see what i mean .? you have to be specific when discussing history as it adds more context to the story. otherwise it sounds like you have some sort of personnel agenda or bias.. but is what you find "so fascinating" a finely calibrated , distilled version of this period of history.? like you only find the Japanese perspective "so fascinating".? i mean, any good history teacher would tell you to shape up or you FAIL the class

@@bconni2 lmao, rn you are fascinating to me as well. Why does this bother you so much I wonder. Everyone know's what I was referring to, including yourself. No one is trying to demean the protugese. That said, you DO know the portugese weren't the only ones interacting with and influencing the japanese right? The English and Dutch were themselves making efforts to provide a protestant alternative of western influence, even if the protugese at first arguably had by far the most success

They were the New Spanish army, almost everyone involved in the Military of the Crown, they were often Mexican, either fully indigenous or mixed. Headquarters and training were done in New Spain (Mexico).

​​@@TuWearnot true, majority were Spaniards

As a Filipino, I didn't know that Tlaxcalan troops were present during the conquest of the Philippines, but I knew that the majority of the Spaniards (Kastila) which settled in my country have Mexican origins.

Moreover, Ming dynasty was in a decline and then was taken over by the Manchu who established Qing dynasty. Then some Ming loyalists led by General Zheng Chenggong, or known as Koxinga in the west, fled to Taiwan which was colony of the Dutch at that time. They fought the Dutch and took Taiwan from them and use it as their base of operations. For awhile, Taiwan was an independent country ruled by Chinese nationalists who didn’t get along with mainland China government. Just like the modern time.

And don’t forget the successor states of the Mongols duking it out in the middle east and central asia

Try De Bellis Renationis (usually just DBR) - way more historical, and is definitely easy to learn but hard to master.

@@draco84oz But De Bellis Renationis doesn't have wizards and elves tho.

@@cleeiii357 That's what Hordes of the Things is for...

Italy didnt exist It was controlled mainly by Spain and the papal states and many independent cities like venice

Those books are such great fun to read. I really need to get back into that series.

@@lacien5624 Same. Only issue is it is so bloody long. There's like over 30 books. I can't read all that.

“Calvary knights” How did you just make the Winged Hussars sound even cooler 😮

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And if you were wearing your armour, there's a decent chance he wouldn't even wound you.

CaLvary is a place where Jesus was Crucified. CavaLry... with the L at the end is people on horses.

I think you mean cavalry. Calvary is a hill on which the Romans crucified Jesus.

Just as the founding fathers intended