The Most Unique Water Well System Ever Seen! 80 Year Old Electric Well Pump! Trying to Update it.

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In this video My Brother and I work on a near Century old water well that has an Electric powered Pitcher Pump. Although the job doesn't go our way, it was still nice to get out & spend time together working on a system like we used to do many years ago. From a Viewers perspective it's just 2 guys working on a well, but for me it was so much more.
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@marvlb 9 месяцев назад

We had a sucker rod pump exactly like that growing up on our farm in the 50’s. The leather seals would wear out and we would have to pull the rods. Each rod was about 12 feet long made of cypress cut into a one inch triangle with metal connectors screwed to each end that were screwed together to connect the rods. On one pull my dad lost grip on the rod and it fell into the well. He made hook out of a steel rod and ground a barb on the tip. We fished for the lost pump rod for hours and finally got and the lost rods out. I was so happy to see that rod come up out of the well, I must have been seven or eight years old at the time.

@stepheneskelson7774 9 месяцев назад

Just pull the pipe out, change out the leathers and the bottom screen, reseal the threads, put in a new rod, some guide sleeves, put back down the hole and set it right, it'll last another 75 years.

@funnycatvideos5490 9 месяцев назад

They don't know how to do that it's before their time so they basically disabled it and now they have nothing

@kevinroberts9394 9 месяцев назад

Looked like it was working fine. Just needed to repack the rod seal. The leathers were obviously still good as it pumped up. And it is really hard to pull good leathers. Don't see many of his videos but if his dad is still around he should remember pump Jack's and sucker rod. Last 1 I worked on we pulled over 200 ft of wooden rods. 1 broke and after changing the leathers 3 more times we learned that you have to put it back to the exact same depth in the smooth part of the casing or it will tear the leathers up in a day that jack is not as old as you may think if it is more than 25 foot deep a more reliable system that would have ran almost forever if properly maintained a couple times a year.

@ronblack7870 9 месяцев назад

@@kevinroberts9394 customer wanted more volume i bet . 30yrs ago i was in the exact same situation put our rod could be pulled out. 80 ft. it was only 2 inch pump. used 1/2 inch pipe as the pull rod. couldn't get enough water for modern living. maybe 1-2 gal / minute tops

@Auto-Tech-Matt 3 месяца назад

If you watch till the end of the video he explains why the homeowner wanted a new well pump. It's an air bnb. That's why he was changing it out. So it could be easily serviced and sanitized.

@GW71093 3 месяца назад

I knew there’d be people in the comments complaining that they should have rebuilt this horrible contraption lol. Easy to say when you aren’t doing it, paying for it, or relying on it for your house.

@snicks50 9 месяцев назад

I have the same pump on my milk house. I was told it was 92 years old not sure. But still works as of today.

@ocsrc Месяц назад

That belongs in a museum. I wish we had a well museum in America that would ask for these systems and other 70+ year old systems

@heroslippy6666 Месяц назад

It'd be amazing to see a bunch of ancient pumps setup and maintained to keep on running like they originally did.

@johndenton5555 2 месяца назад

Made back when things were made to work properly, to last, and to be repairable. That pump is so cool! would be fun to rebuild it!

@rocarroll1533 9 месяцев назад

Serviced these deepwell pumps for 45 odd years,many different brands,Anderson, Mcewens,Davies etc,if you didnt have a wind mill you usually had a deep well plunger pump ,not much else before submersibles came into play bar ram style pumps

@tommystarcher6982 Месяц назад

Of course it still works! Everything they built back then was built to work for decades and decades

@ford2n2003 9 месяцев назад

It's a rod pump. A wooden rod runs down the center of the pipe and operates a piston pump at the bottom of the pipe. The small broken plunger was an air pump to charge the water tank. An air release on the tank would keep it from becoming air bound. These pumps were very common as deep well pumps from the early 1900's until the 1960's, The part cut out was the check valve to prevent water backflow to the well.

@dnitchke 9 месяцев назад

you are absolutely correct11

@ThatGuyFromArizona 9 месяцев назад

This right here is what I love about this channel. There is so much knowledge and people happy to share.

@dennislee444 9 месяцев назад

nope

@jasonschannel9017 9 месяцев назад

@@dennislee444That's not much of an argument.

@northface484 9 месяцев назад

LOL...!!@@dennislee444

@paulmaxwell8851 9 месяцев назад

That is the coolest old setup I've ever seen. If it were mine I'd definitely restore it to like new.

@SledgeHammer43 17 дней назад

Be nice to see you drill a new well for that site.

@turnbullfl4114 6 месяцев назад

If I was homeowner, I would have said "Put it back together the way it was".

@phenry5083 6 месяцев назад

No you wouldn’t have because that’s the risk you take with wells and you sign off on it before hand

@williamallen7836 6 месяцев назад

Why? Do you like an oil contaminated water supply? Rewatch the beginning when the pump kicked in. There's the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water that leaks past the pump. That oil comes from the open side of the gearbox. The oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks past the pump piston, then oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't care how robust that old system may be, it's a health hazard. Not to mention all the poison from all that rust. It's so rusted that you can't even repack the seals so it won't leak. The old pump had it's day, and Long life. It's time to move on to something that won't posion it's owners.

@kenwillis8487 5 месяцев назад

They bought the house to rent out! I know from my past as a real estate agent that the well either passes or fails water quality and flow tests! I’m guessing the well failed inspection or the water samples fails due to oil and dirt contamination! It would have been a condition of the mortgage company that the well was replaced either b4 closing on the property or money was placed in escrow to pay for new well or retrofit of existing!

@williamallen7836 5 месяцев назад

@@kenwillis8487 Exactly. Just because an old item is robust, it does not mean it has not out lived it useful life or overall better in it's current use.

@Lunas2525 Месяц назад

The water was not safe to use as it was it was even stated in the video it would not pass current water standards. Also it was already partially broken and looked ready to break any time. Its just too bad we dont get to see them pulling out the 2 inch casing and drilling a new well

@truth6600 9 месяцев назад

Goulds ,the best I've ever worked with.

@dansevern3291 9 месяцев назад

Too bad you couldn't save the well, but the pump is a cool piece of history. I enjoy seeing stuff like that, as long as it's not me that's gotta work on it!😁

@Tate6788 9 месяцев назад

That’s a piece you take back and put on your shelf what a cool find !

@AChavez-p5k Месяц назад

Everybody has one in older days you should be able to fix quickly

@curtnicholson7771 9 месяцев назад

I can’t believe what you call the crane is actually pretty much a part of the well service trucks here in the Midwest but then most newer wells here are usually scheduled 80 PVC well pipe on pitiless adapters with older wells being still hung on galvanized because they haven’t been changed over yet. Years back our pump went bad and a new pump was added to three new 20’ lengths of PVC actually lowering our well by about 6’ as it was hung on 18’ sections of 1” galvanized pipe. I had never heard of that size but the well guys said it was available years ago. Till I saw your videos I had never seen a pump hanging on vinyl pipe. We just upgraded ours to an VFD drive. Expensive but I believe worth it in the long run. Trying to get everything right for the love of my life.

@michaelholland8969 9 месяцев назад

Does VFD drive take the place of the control box? If so, wouldn't that be expensive compared to the regular control box when lightning strikes it? Please explain, Thanks!

@paullebeau3589 3 месяца назад

I had one of theese at a old farm I lived on, it worked fine. Leathers needed replaced once.

@jfbeam 9 месяцев назад

I've seen pumps like that in pastures. (usually wind powered) But not for many decades. There's a reason they last forever... they were meant to last forever. The only thing that ever fails is the actual pump valves.

@hiteck007 9 месяцев назад

And leather pump piston seal & gland seal

@perrylc8812 2 месяца назад

Wish I had that setup.

@oliverstreet7704 2 месяца назад

The chunk you didn't understand is a gravity operated flow check being used as what was called a foot valve. Flow from the well lifts the weight from its seat. Gravity puts it back down. No elastomer seal. No spring. Low opening pressure. Very low flow resistance. The weight's motion and turbulent opening flow clears small particulates and some minerals, can develop buildup allowing reverse flow and require cleaning. Extremely low failure rate. High manufacturing cost. Heavy, high shipping cost. A similar type of flow check is used for hydronic heating.

@MrMatthewgross Месяц назад

You put the crown on the hustle! Nice work!

@user-or1lu3ku3m 9 месяцев назад

You pulled the pipe at an angle and were surprised that the head broke off, sheesh

@josephsaucedo8691 9 месяцев назад

Iv worked on one of those I was told that it's called a jack pump they also have ones that runs off a small gas engine. A mock well set up with a jack pump work great if you have to fill water troofs up a long ways away . There also nice if you have a wind mill and there no wind . A draw cylinder pump set up and that jack pump can be use in a lot of applications there definitely not to many around any more

@nickearle3913 9 месяцев назад

I have a very similar system in my rural house up in Alberta, except my pump jack is made by Beatty. It was originally installed in the early 1960's, uses a metal sucker rod with leather seals, and the pump jack has a gear lube immersion bath for lubrication. The galvanized tank is a mixed air tank and will have an air purge as the sucker rod will pull air from downhole along with water. I still use the pump to this day, though i've plumbed the sucker rod pump through a bladder accumulator and into a 1000L cistern since the well has always been ~1.3 gallon per minute.

@whatyoumakeofit6635 9 месяцев назад

I cant believe this well was ripped out. At the least it could ha e been left alone and used as a secondary emergency or auxiliary well. Or put new seals and refurbish the mechanism and keep using for another 80 years.

@pathaze4299 2 месяца назад

My uncle had the bottom half of one of these old pumps in his garage just laying around..Something left from the house/property. I always wondered what it was when I was younger as I messed around with it, I remember putting my foot on the arm on the side and making the pulley turn.. It sounded exactly like this.. So now I know what it was. It's an old well pump.. Says F.E. Myers on the side of it.. Hearing the oil sloshing around when it's running gave it away to me..

@johnscott2849 9 месяцев назад

Napoleon Ohio had Heller Aller pump jacks made there. 2 inch wells usually for windmills. A lot were just well points driven into the ground. Worked on a few of them. Replaced the leather seals. 30 psi maybe what they were good for. Replaced some with new style pumps. 11/4 line with check valve just fit.

@richards5843 9 месяцев назад

I believe the last part you cut off is a back flow preventer. It keep water from draining from the pressure storage tank back into the well.

@centheiatrust9153 4 месяца назад

The Gould mechanism is called a "pump jack." The pump down in the well is called a cylinder pump. New ones are readily available in a variety of diameters and draw lengths. Draw length times diameter is the amount of water you get each time the rod is pulled up. I have seen people install brand new ones in a freshly drilled well, with an electric motor operating the pump jack, just for historical reasons.

@fixinanddoinstuff2134 Месяц назад

We had a similar Goulds pump on the farmhouse. The well was in the basement and our electric motor was beside it. Leather pump seals Old check valve out of cast?

@craigsawicky1643 9 месяцев назад

Such technology, which would still allow one to access the water If/When power went out, became "obsolete" when submersible pumps came into general use. Now one would need to keep a well bucket from Leman's, And Pull the Submersible!

@compactc9 9 месяцев назад

Reminds me of things I saw when I was growing up in the 90s. Out on family’s farms in Nebraska, they had old windmill and cistern water systems, they had things like this, but a lot more crude looking, outside that attach to the pump. Then inside the house they had a pressure tank and pump that fed from the cistern. Weird setups and to my knowledge none are actually still in use.

@jasonschannel9017 9 месяцев назад

Nebraska represents!

@yellowlab5624 9 месяцев назад

How cool was that 👍👍

@Keith_Mikell 9 месяцев назад

Much love Phil.

@evilborg 9 месяцев назад

Now that's really cool to see working still. I sure hope you kept that pump and didn't toss it out !!!

@TalRohan Месяц назад

well I subscribed a while ago, this stuff is fascinating .

@anthhonyshirley8957 9 месяцев назад

Check valve (back flow preventer)

@countrylife3900 2 месяца назад

The piece in question that you cut off is a check valve

@geoffreykail9129 9 месяцев назад

Very interesting.

@RealAaron317 6 месяцев назад

Had to be installed in the 40s

@xxof830 9 месяцев назад

Wow I love ❤ your Southern accent from Norristown PA here 👍🏾👋🏾🤟🏾

@Old-bold-pilot 9 месяцев назад

Interesting! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@lizardinparadise 9 месяцев назад

I believe your mystery item is the check valve

@gregorymatre 7 месяцев назад

I bet that Goule would buy it back

@doghouse416 7 месяцев назад

Props to you two for trying. The tech was too old anyway like you said, a B and B needs to be reliable. Probably nobody still alive with knowledge or the parts to keep that old system running.

@pewpewwithtodd8077 9 месяцев назад

That is older than pre deturmand failure was invented, lol

@lukedesselle2491 9 месяцев назад

Im pretty sure that first part you removed was a foot valve or check value to stop water from back draining out the holding tank

@chigobwynquorev4513 9 месяцев назад

About the age.... Both the motor and pump mechanism had no ZIP code on the frame, so that pre-dates July 1, 1963, when the ZIP code was introduced.

@BPassalaqua 6 месяцев назад

Show at county fair

@j.l.daltoin2238 9 месяцев назад

Back flow gate valve is the part you cut off

@RandomActsOfRandom Месяц назад

Hammer

@BurninatorTheTrogdor Месяц назад

Ah, the age old call me on a Friday night to do a Saturday job trick.

@samuelhaynes4877 6 месяцев назад

Back in the twenties and thirties they made stuff to last.

@markb.1259 9 месяцев назад

Theoretically... I think you love saying the word... Theoretically!!! 🙂

@KC-nd7nt 9 месяцев назад

Merica F yeah

@kenwillis8487 5 месяцев назад

I sold real estate for 8 years, any home with a well was subject to testing and inspection. They tested water sample and the tested flow rates! It doesn’t matter if the new owner wants to live there or rent it out, the well still has to pass inspection and be deemed a safe reliable water source! If a well failed inspection there were two options, either the seller fixes/replaces well or they place money in escrow at closing for buyer to use to fix or replace! Usually the buyer and seller would renegotiate the contract price to come to an agreement! Either way I guarantee that well failed either based on flow rates or contamination from oil from the pump!

@jeffbyrd7976 26 дней назад

Went from a pumping well to nothing. That's about how my luck goes. I am curious, my 5 T is not pulling 5 T until I triple line it, is that 3T actually pulling that on a single line? I have 2 customers with 3" wells and 2" galvanized in them. Pulling is the problem, it getting the pipe back in LOL. Thanks.

@AndyGenova-jr9ol Месяц назад

Might think about a new crew amiture hour

@JamesKing-yb3oq 3 месяца назад

You look familiar, do you operate outside of Clarksville, Va? We had a well installed on our property in Henderson, NC. by a Hensley Well!

@niveknospmoht8743 9 месяцев назад

Piece you were questioning that you couldn't see through is probably a check valve

@kempaswe4022 2 месяца назад

Old quality pump. In the past they made things to last forever, today they make things with parts that brakes after a few years

@leiferickson713 9 месяцев назад

I just wonder if the next one you guys put in could possibly even last that long. Nowadays made America stands for made with cheap parts from abroad assembled in Mexico and sold in the states.

@NebbieNZ 9 месяцев назад

I've never seen one working but I have seen one similar to this not made in the USA cos not from the USA similar design.

@cmullis24 9 месяцев назад

Stroke pump

@macjam100 9 месяцев назад

Think that was a spring check valve

@glenmiller8888 9 месяцев назад

I am a Canadian-and baffled as to why your channel isn't above 100,000. You have the required shorts, possibly you need to post more videos per week? That old motor is the way things use to be, in Canada it was Wagner Leland , I worked in a motor shop early in life, a capacitor start pump was developed around 1955 to 1960, before that it was repulsion induction, many are still found in the Farm industry, Harvestor -AO Smith.

@tomarmstrong4156 Месяц назад

It was a shame to destroy that system, it should have been preserved as a working oddity. What you say is true as far as a modern water supply it would not be advisable. What I don't understand is it would need the leathers changed in the cylinder occasionally. I did not see a straightforward way to do that. My grandfather had a Red Jacket jack system on a pressure system for garden water. My son sold it for scrap (grrr). I had a big old jack I got at an auction. I hope it is still there.

@joecummings1260 9 месяцев назад

Do you have a drill rig? Even maybe an old cable-tool one?

@CSGATI 9 месяцев назад

You give up to easy dig down below the splice cut and maybe weld new pipe on. fixed.

@samsonvargas1263 9 месяцев назад

Hello sir, is it possible to order SQ250 GRUNFOS SUBMERSIBLE PUMP from you?

@henryshaw2697 6 месяцев назад

Nune chances out of ten it's a ck valve

@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 9 месяцев назад

Why not just get It restored and new brushes put in and stuff and then put it back so it could last another 80 years?

@bobcat1 6 месяцев назад

That was a check valve you cut out.

@johnstreet797 9 месяцев назад

F.Y.I. the manufacturer tag on that motor did not show a ZIP code, so it was older than 1961.

@Stepdaddy8969 9 месяцев назад

👍🏽

@paulbell1835 9 месяцев назад

That would be a check valve

@danielcarter305 9 месяцев назад

It was made before there was a date!😂😂😂😂

@tacoma50 9 месяцев назад

Some needs to yank that hammer out of his hands, get you a set of fox wedges and some wd40!

@meier259 Месяц назад

What is a Greek guy doing in the south?

@tehpanda64 9 месяцев назад

would have been a lot cooler to repair it, more labor and maybe money too so I understand not doing it. I think it is a pretty cool piece of machinery.

@mrVolvo850 9 месяцев назад

👍

@fredcroad331 9 месяцев назад

Made not to far from ME

@boblowell4809 9 месяцев назад

A check-valve.

@ahah1785 Месяц назад

meanwhile i see tesla home chargers in droves at the local dump...

@clanwatkins 9 месяцев назад

Pump jack, I had one given to me just like it. Idiot dozer operator drove over it an trashed.

@stanleyedwards3023 9 месяцев назад

Early Gould pump jacks used leather seals, these pumps dated back to the 30’s. Gould still makes quality pumps, my Dad was on board of directors many years ago.

@lancereagan3046 9 месяцев назад

I used to install and service Goulds Pumps back in the early/mid 1980's.

@BCHonea 9 месяцев назад

I love how comments on RU-vid bring historical connections like this. Cheers to your pops

@kd5crw 9 месяцев назад

They make most of them cheap in China now. Motors too. Sad to see another once good company selling junk and coasting on their name.

@Look_What_You_Did 9 месяцев назад

It's just a name today. Another brand purchased by investment firms and gutted.

@markarca6360 9 месяцев назад

It was acquired by another company called Xylem.

@GrymWorks-A.I. 9 месяцев назад

The Wagner motor Model G902 K4180 The model # is *G902* The rest is a date code *K=November* *44=1944* *80=8th day* So, Wednesday November 8, 1944

@MrWolfSnack 9 месяцев назад

Wow built during the height of WW2. Just 3 days after that motor left the assembly line, the Allied troops bombed Iwo Jima. On the specific day it was made, Joseph Goebbels announced the V-2 rocket campaign.

@kittyfanatic1980 5 месяцев назад

I get k4180 no real way to tell without it right in front of me if that last digit is a 1 or 4

@GrymWorks-A.I. 5 месяцев назад

@@kittyfanatic1980Thats what I said.

@royreynolds108 9 месяцев назад

The chunk you threw down was the check valve. The sucker rod with the pump on the bottom should have come out by pulling on it. That is the way those pumps were supposed to be fixed or releathered. The numbers on the casting side is the pattern number for the casting instead of a date. Our house in MI had a reciprocating piston pump so the water level was less than 25 feet.

@ronblack7870 9 месяцев назад

i had one 80 ft deep

@buggsy5 9 месяцев назад

You are limited to about 25 feet only if you have a suction pump, which that pump isn't. I don't know why you were unable to pull out the lift rod. The pump was lifting water, as proven by it building pressure in the water tank, so the piston at the bottom was free. It may be that there is corrosion above and below the area the piston contacts - it wouldn't take a lot to jamb the pipe.

@austinlloyd9757 9 месяцев назад

I agree with you a modern pump in 80 years will be fkd every😅5 t 7 years and then replace with more rubbish

@rex8255 9 месяцев назад

Let's give props to current and previous owners, who kept up the oil level AND passed on the information of how to do it.

@chatrkat 9 месяцев назад

This is probably your most interesting service call, but I always enjoy watching your videos. That old equipment is further proof how good old American machinery was made back when companies cared to, and could afford to built quality products. Most likely original capacitor on that Wagner motor too.

@jeffwxyz 9 месяцев назад

Took something out that lasted 80 years and still working. It will be lucky if a new pump lasts 8 years.

@phenry5083 6 месяцев назад

Good thing modern pumps have no problems lasting 50 years

@brando12343 6 месяцев назад

you can easily get 25+ years out of a quality modern pump

@kevamor 2 месяца назад

But why take one that that will outlast any new pump even after already used for 80 years? Should just rebuild all that in there, new seals fix that rod and get another 80 years.

@raxorlp9932 2 месяца назад

@@brando12343 idk about that ^^

@rupe53 Месяц назад

@@kevamor The biggest problem with the old pump is it will NOT supply water at a rate suitable for today's demands. It was installed long before people had hot showers, flush toilets, and washing machines. Matter of fact, I doubt the well yield can keep up with a family of four, which will be over 400 gallons a day at today's standard.

@metallchips8569 9 месяцев назад

I have been machining for 20 years and spent several servicing water pumps for Municipals and Agriculture and goulds pumps are still in business. That pump should go to a museum.

@beingthere597 9 месяцев назад

I remember that pump and the gawoosh-gawoosh sound it made. When I was a little kid (early 1950's) my grandparents had an insulated pump house on their farm that also served as a root cellar for my grandmother's canned vegetables and jellies. Big green-tint glass mason jars. The door to the pump house was thick and heavy and it was dark inside. I was really scared of that pump. Sometimes when it was quiet, I would crack the door and peek in for an adrenaline rush. When it came on, I would jump out of my skin, slam the door and run, hoping that monster wouldn't break free and chase me.

@superskunkygrow 3 месяца назад

man oh man to be a kid again 😂😂😂😂

@tomgroenbeck7620 9 месяцев назад

My grandfather installed a hand operated well on his property around 1960 with a similar mechanism. The well was 90m deep, the water was around 18m below ground. They lowered a 4" pump cylinder on 1 1/4" galvanized pipe about 24m deep into an 8" well. The piston inside the cylinder was connected by a 3/8" rod to an arm at the top. You could buy these cast iron pumps in the hardware store, they were intended for water depths about 3m, with our setup it was extremely hard to pump (I as a kid was unable to push the arm down, I wasn't heavy enough). Later my dad converted to a submersible 3-phase pump with 4" diameter, we installed a 5" plastic casing inside and filled the gap with pea gravel. Still providing water for the lawn today. I came from Germany, so the house has 400V 3-phase power (230V per phase), and no fancy electronics box, just an old fashioned pressure switch with 3 contacts instead of 2.

@w124mercedes7 9 месяцев назад

That old gould pump will probably outlast 2 modern pumps and around 80 years old now. American made used to mean something. America built products that were built to last and be serviced. I have a refrigerator and deep freezer built in the 30s and both work like new. We have a gas stove from the 30s and a pair of gas parlor stoves we use for heat and both work great. Everything was salvaged from. An old mansion and we're totally restored. You cant buy that kind of quality and reliability anymore. I restored cars for over 35 years and restored a 1953 caddilac and after we were done we were amazed how cold the ac system was in that car. On a 110 deg day the ac would freeze you out. Its a shame American made Isn't what it used to be. We used to build the best looking cars and now we build over priced plastic junk . Truly a shame.

@NemoBlank 9 месяцев назад

@@w124mercedes7 Hedge fund traitors and crooked politicians saw a way to get rich selling the rest of us out.

@lancereagan3046 9 месяцев назад

I bet Goulds/ ITT Corp. would love to have that pump mechanism in their museum. Or even the Seneca Falls Historical Society.

@iansmartel5473 9 месяцев назад

Using wind power before the word GREEN POWER was thought of.

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 9 месяцев назад

Why did I find it sad to see this old American built pump that still works have to be removed. 😢❤ I also detest air bnb. 😂

@davidmark805 9 месяцев назад

That pump needs to be restored and put on display.

@vickchester4285 9 месяцев назад

My dad built a pump system using a similar sucker rod pump It was very reliable, and used an electric pump to drive pump. This brought back some very fond and distant memories of my Dad and me working on and maintaining our pump system.