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The Mount Sion Beam Pump.(The Black Cat mystery) 

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This video is called the Black cat mystery. Its an industrial story about a Boulton and Watt beam pump engine. On the banks of the river Irwell at Mount Sion works, Radcliffe North Manchester. Here we find an old Boulton & Watt beam pumping engine that used to pump mine water in a Colliery in The Lancashire coal field. The Mine was called the Black Cat colliery. The Boulton & Watt engine was re purposed to be water powered as it started life as a steam pumping engine. In order to understand the story we must understand some of the history of the Manchester/ Lancashire coal field. The coal field around Cocky Moor in Radcliffe north Manchester was drained by a mine drainage sough or tunnel. This sough was called the Cocky Moor culvert. Our journey takes us along the banks of the river Irwell and finally we find a heritage Boulton & Watt pumping engine. The last of its kind. This is a story about the history of Manchester and the history of Lancashire mining and the Lancashire coal field.

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@martin4787
@martin4787 3 месяца назад
Words escape me Martin. I've been sat here riveted for 40 mins Martin. Thank you to you all.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Martin, I was worried I talked too much 😁
@martin4787
@martin4787 3 месяца назад
@@MartinZero Certainly not Martin. I loved all of it and thanks once again to you all.🙂
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 месяца назад
No, absolutely not. If you didn't talk about it, i wouldn't learn anything.
@NeilRoberts-bu4oy
@NeilRoberts-bu4oy 3 месяца назад
A great find.😊
@jenbrignell5598
@jenbrignell5598 3 месяца назад
The repurposed steam engine...Boulton and Watt. At the end. It was CRIMINAL to see it left in such a degraded condition. Considering that it was an important part of our proud industrial heritage. Thank you Martin for another great vid
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Jen
@christopherescott6787
@christopherescott6787 3 месяца назад
28:42 An excellent example of why one never explores alone or without proper gear. A very hazardous place indeed. Thank you for putting such an effort to a wonderful story.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Christopher
@paulmilner8813
@paulmilner8813 3 месяца назад
The best film yet from Martin and the lads. I hope that the local history people can get involved and save the remains of the beam pump for the future, maybe even restoring it.
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs 3 месяца назад
I'll never tire of watching stuff like this, such fascinating history of our heritage. The hidden stuff that was never meant to be seen, the inner workings. Awesome. Cheers Martin and the lads.
@perrystalsis55
@perrystalsis55 Месяц назад
What an incredible find! Don't apologise for talking Martin, I could listen to you all day! ☺
@marcbeebe
@marcbeebe 3 месяца назад
Love the old mine works and mills videos! You'd never get such built today.
@garybrignell1831
@garybrignell1831 3 месяца назад
It must be Sunday and another worthy upload from Martin . Can't wait to see this new video . Thanks Martin .
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks. It’s a story I’ve been waiting to tell for a while
@petenicholson3318
@petenicholson3318 3 месяца назад
Your videos are pure escapism. So refreshing. Thanks
@VanaPica
@VanaPica 3 месяца назад
Martin and team, you delivered a master piece. Appriciate the effort and detail you put in.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you, glad you enjoyed
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 месяца назад
Martin, all your vid are from the heart, that's why they're such a joy to watch. I don't want to bore everyone with a long-winded comment so I'll just say, "This was outstanding." Thanks to Martin and everyone involved.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you , much appreciated
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 месяца назад
@@MartinZero And for me it all started with the River Medlock years back. lol
@elainemclelland
@elainemclelland 3 месяца назад
I was almost in tears when I saw the rusting hulk of the once majestic pump. So sad that it's being allowed to rot away. I wish someone from the Museum of Science and Industry would rescue it. As for Roy ... the man is fearless! I was all tight-chested when you were in the tunnels, the stuff of nightmares. I think Roy had a squeaky bum moment stuck in the mud! Thanks again for a first class watch of something so interesting.
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video, but criminal that such a historic piece of machinery has just been left to rust and rot!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
I know, tell me about it 😟
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 месяца назад
My son just made a fresh pot of Coffee, now time to enjoy a new vid from Martin Zero.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Enjoy your coffee 😄
@missmerrily4830
@missmerrily4830 3 месяца назад
If anyone had told me a few years ago, before finding your channel Martin, how interested I'd become in the history of Manchester and its surrounds, and especially its industrial history, I'd have laughed. But it's now a real treat to find another of your videos ready to be viewed. And you do a magnificent job of bringing it all to life. You definitely faced some challenges in this one, even down to being threatened by cattle. Brilliant work in finding the sough outflow. And finally that wonderful old steam engine. Its day done and relegated to history. But all things must change. Thanks Martin, Roy, James and Liam. And James, excellent brew, everything there, and never mind the teasing over out of date brownie bites. Never wrong to be economical..... 😀 That was a mega and treacherous journey but a fabulous video!
@debonweb
@debonweb 3 месяца назад
That's exactly how I feel! You've put it so well 👍
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much 😊👍
@barryhansen6854
@barryhansen6854 3 месяца назад
Martin at 12:51 the photo shown is taken March 1953 as the top line on the board the guy is holding states so you are correct. Awesome video/story.
@malcolmcog
@malcolmcog 2 месяца назад
That was fascinating, old mines and a steam pumping engine converted to use water instead of steam !!
@ffrancrogowski2192
@ffrancrogowski2192 3 месяца назад
Another fantastic Manchester area video, Martin! Both yourself, Roy and the lads struggled through all that thick undergrowth to show us the interesting aspects of the industrial past. It seems like the banks of the River Irwell have been swamped with endless factories, mills and mines over the past two hundred years and more. You've done some fantastic research to show and explain to us the workings of items in this particular area, with maps, etc. You brave these certain tunnels, but I must say, I was really concerned with Roy struggling in that deep mud! To discover that old beam pump was absolutely remarkable, too. A brilliant film indeed, Martin, just love the work you do on these programs. Thank you.
@roytabberer7427
@roytabberer7427 3 месяца назад
Martin, I feel that there is no need to apologise for all of the talking. I thoroughly enjoyed this video, you made it so interesting that the 40 minutes absolutely flew by. A huge thank you to yourself and the team for providing me with interesting facts and information. See you on the next one.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks very much Roy
@robmez
@robmez 3 месяца назад
Martin at his best ,stunning work ,still one of the best on RU-vid
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers 😀
@timwy
@timwy 3 месяца назад
Absolutely fantastic video guys ! That engine really should be taken away, restored and put back in pristine condition to reflect it's true importance in history !
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Yes definitely agree
@PhilHolcroft
@PhilHolcroft 3 месяца назад
As someone who played in this area as a child in the 70's, before Cams Lane estate was built I found it facinating to see you explorin my playground. Phil
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Phil
@dieselmanmike
@dieselmanmike 22 дня назад
Brilliant video, such a shame some of our engineering history is left to decay with no celebration or marking of its existence. You have placed this once fine working machine back on the map in this video. Great work again Martin and team. 👍
@dougwalters5763
@dougwalters5763 3 месяца назад
Martin Thankyou for sharing.....................one of your VERY BEST Thanks to all the team.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Doug 👍
@l30njam3s
@l30njam3s 3 месяца назад
That was brilliant and a proper sad ending 😢 👏👏👏
@ShawnD1027
@ShawnD1027 Месяц назад
This is one of your most intriguing episodes! The end was quite satisfying!
@andyn3532
@andyn3532 2 месяца назад
You would be in your element in the Yorkshire mining museum all the machinery and tunnels you could dream of. I was there a few months back and they were selling off miners brass tallies for the upkeep of the mines so I had to buy one. 😊
@keithfarrell3370
@keithfarrell3370 3 месяца назад
The quality of your presentations just gets better and better
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Keith 👍
@alanarmer8069
@alanarmer8069 3 месяца назад
Be careful in the Giant Hogweed 👍👍
@petenicholson3318
@petenicholson3318 3 месяца назад
The nasty rash is phytophito dermatitis. It's like nepalm.
@niallh8129
@niallh8129 3 месяца назад
Great video! The river Irwell is full of History
@christophernorton33
@christophernorton33 3 месяца назад
Thank you, Martin . That was fascinating . The old pumping engine at the end is an amazing find.😀👍
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I love that thing
@charlesmarston7290
@charlesmarston7290 3 месяца назад
The pmp has such a story it needs to be persevering for future generations
@hamshackleton
@hamshackleton 3 месяца назад
I presume you mean preserving, not persevering! 🙂
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 месяца назад
PreserveD. You don't say needs to be preservING.
@MarkMunro-y8f
@MarkMunro-y8f 3 месяца назад
Thank you Martin and team . You can get iSome spanners and get that machine running😂😂😂❤
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
I'll try 😂
@sethkaye7897
@sethkaye7897 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video, many thanks for the time and trouble to catalogue this period of history, the Industrial age and it's workers are truly deserving of more recognition, you do a great job.
@jennythescouser
@jennythescouser 3 месяца назад
That black moggy sat on the wall was a nice touch. Keep up the good work, guys.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
👍
@ronm3245
@ronm3245 3 месяца назад
I like when Roy comes along. He's a sort of anti-wimp who gets the tough shots we wouldn't otherwise see.
@catzkeet4860
@catzkeet4860 3 месяца назад
😱 are you calling Martin a wimp??😲😏😂 (just joking everyone, just joking)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
😃Be reyt
@72polara
@72polara 3 месяца назад
Roy is going to reach his goal no matter what.
@caddycommercials8570
@caddycommercials8570 3 месяца назад
Phew was getting withdrawal symptoms guys thanks for makin my Sunday 😎🇮🇪🥰
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers 😀👍
@davidhodkinson5164
@davidhodkinson5164 3 месяца назад
Industrial Heritage at rest , do the people at Manchester's science museum know about this ? Excellent vid as usual , Martin and the team has done us proud once again 👍 Dave (bus museum)
@Theoobovril
@Theoobovril 3 месяца назад
Another expert video, Martin, you and your teams knock the pants off our Television companies.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you 😊
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 5 дней назад
Utterly brilliant video, thanks.
@theScrupulousBerserker
@theScrupulousBerserker 3 месяца назад
Martin Zero --> legend 🙌🏼
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
😂👍
@andywelburn432
@andywelburn432 3 месяца назад
Thanks Martin!
@bernardcooke
@bernardcooke Месяц назад
what a team great work never give up .
@oldfart6318
@oldfart6318 3 месяца назад
Fantastic adventure, thanks for persisting and posting.
@Charliegeorge65
@Charliegeorge65 3 месяца назад
Could watch these all night Martin, brilliant.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Charlie
@michaeldutsonlandscapephot2184
@michaeldutsonlandscapephot2184 3 месяца назад
Ten out of ten for this video Martin. Great job in telling the story too. Really well put together. Essential Sunday night viewing.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you Michael 👍
@SirSidley
@SirSidley 3 месяца назад
You never cease to amaze me on your quests to find our industrial heritage still hidden in the landscape. Thanks for risking your lives to record these gems for posterity ❤
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you 👍
@stuperambulist5154
@stuperambulist5154 3 месяца назад
Started watching your vid’s when I was stuck in MRI recovering from pancreatic cancer in 2020, have watched full back catalogue and everything since. This one’s up there with the best mate, please never give up making them, Sunday wouldn’t be the same.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers thank you. I hope you are recovering well 👍
@JohnHennessey-l5i
@JohnHennessey-l5i 3 месяца назад
Absolutely brilliant thanks so much
@hymermobiler
@hymermobiler 3 месяца назад
Great story really enjoyed it thank you. What a shame that engine is rotting away.
@Peter-MH
@Peter-MH 3 месяца назад
Fascinating stuff! This is one of the standout industrial archeology episodes on this channel I think - excellent work! 👍
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Peter
@TheSynthnut
@TheSynthnut 3 месяца назад
A fascinating tale Martin, well told. Thanks for putting the efforts into bringing it all together. That giant hogweed had me seriously worried though, properly nasty stuff.
@pambrown8697
@pambrown8697 3 месяца назад
Outstanding, and I like the continual narration.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@keithrimmer3
@keithrimmer3 3 месяца назад
Thanks for that wonderful history lesson Martin, what a shame it can't be restored
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
It would be nice to restore it but its kinda beautiful as it is
@charlesbryant5649
@charlesbryant5649 2 месяца назад
Just Amazing - thanks
@kristinlagerquist8161
@kristinlagerquist8161 3 месяца назад
We need to crowdfund a kayak or some sort or boat for you, Martin.
@nikbennett4894
@nikbennett4894 3 месяца назад
Might be your best find yet, mate. Superb video!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Nik
@andyroberts9562
@andyroberts9562 2 месяца назад
Catching up on your videos at the moment thanks for taking the time to put this one together brilliant stuff as always 👍
@luler0
@luler0 3 месяца назад
Another great video.
@JonVear
@JonVear 2 месяца назад
Wow Martin . Brilliant vid as always . Big love to the crew
@keith800
@keith800 3 месяца назад
Lovely video , its amazing the engine has lasted all these years ,it would be nice if your video stimulated interest in it and one day become restored again to its former glory.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
It would be great to see it restored
@grahamhall8249
@grahamhall8249 3 месяца назад
Brilliant vid Martin, it was so absorbing. I enjoyed every minute of it, well done to all the team!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Graham
@stevenjohnparker6538
@stevenjohnparker6538 3 месяца назад
Hi Martin, shared in Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal Group.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Steven 👍
@colin5021
@colin5021 3 месяца назад
You need a kayak! But that was a great find in the end! Well done chaps.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 месяца назад
Yes, absolutely. They need a boat.
@kenkellalea329
@kenkellalea329 3 месяца назад
Helicopter
@chucky2316
@chucky2316 3 месяца назад
James is a fine swordsman martin becareful he may have youre eye out over a eccles cake. Another good video
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
😁👍🏻
@richardbird4702
@richardbird4702 3 месяца назад
That was a wonderful piece of of physical research. Congratulations on a fine piece of work. Like others, I was sitting rivetted with your video. Great stuff.
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 3 месяца назад
Fascinating story. Appreciate your work and research associated with posting this video PS - is it possible to access LIDAR scans of the area? It should be useful in identifying man made objects.
@lindamccaughey6669
@lindamccaughey6669 3 месяца назад
What an excellent video. Love seeing all this old stuff and how they work. Having said that, the last part made me quite sad. A pump that worked hard all those years then just left. I know I’m pathetic but I think they deserve being looked after. Thank you for taking me along. Please take care
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
I feel the same Linda 👍
@alanarmer8069
@alanarmer8069 3 месяца назад
Another great video Martin 👍👍👍
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@nesleinf
@nesleinf 3 месяца назад
Thank you for a very thorough (spelling?) investigation into early industry developement. Every time i admire your daring journeys into the watery underground. I would'nt do it. I like the way you always are historical correckt and going into history with an open mind without trying to dramatice it as so many other urban explorers often do. Keep it coming! Love from Denmark
@rossendalecollieries7995
@rossendalecollieries7995 3 месяца назад
Hi Martin excellent video and it was plain to see that it is a labor of love.. My van been in for MOT today so spent a lot of time looking into the subject. Never met Ken Howarth in person but talked to him on the phone quite a few times...great guy. From what I have so far gathered, Black Cat...great name.... but not that significant in scheme of things...looks like workings early 1840's in Trencerbourne and Doe seams. There was a third shaft associated just to the south....Kepples deep pit...90 odd yards to 9' mine (Doe?) and 123 yards to 6' mine ( Trencherbourn). The strata rises very steeply to the NE. It was part of Andrew Knowles Radcliffe Collieries and at that time the boundary was the Irwell in that royalty. There were much earlier pits, one called Balance which probably indicate they had a water balance winding engine. It was a vast open area incorporating Allen's Green, Green Lane, Mather croft and many more. I doubt that little pipe could handle all the water from such a vast area...maybe water filtering through the mud under the tank. What is realy interesting on the first OS map; if you look to the left of Black Cat and you see ' Old Engine pit' There is a body of water leaning it to the West, on older maps it is marked as 'Old Canal' thats worth chasing up. Kind regards Clive
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks, yes I did notice old engine pit. Old canal hmm 🤔
@dougmorris2134
@dougmorris2134 3 месяца назад
Thank you Martin and friends for taking me and all of us viewers on this fascinating journey through a part of our industrial past and heritage and to find the treasure of the old Boulton and Watt beam engine still in existance, but so very sad to see it in such state of dereliction. Best wishes from Oxfordshire.
@davidwaites2304
@davidwaites2304 3 месяца назад
Nice one Martin
@russchapman2281
@russchapman2281 3 месяца назад
What a great video,so much information,such a shame the engine is sitting rotting.Keep up the good work :)
@martinjones7998
@martinjones7998 3 месяца назад
That was absolutely brilliant! Just up the road from where I live. Best one yet! Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Martin
@RobTaverner
@RobTaverner 3 месяца назад
Great vlog Martin. Great to see Birmingham on your videos! ;)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
That museum was great
@ianhudson2193
@ianhudson2193 3 месяца назад
Brilliant! Back to old brick & stonework.........and fascinating old machinery.....👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@janemorgan154
@janemorgan154 3 месяца назад
Really enjoyed that one… cheers Martin
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks Jane
@janemorgan154
@janemorgan154 3 месяца назад
@@MartinZero I’ve never been to Manchester but you are defiantly making me want to visit with all this history about
@christinecallow8588
@christinecallow8588 3 месяца назад
Thanks Martin and gang - very interesting. By the way, loving the daleks on your desk
@peterkilvert2712
@peterkilvert2712 3 месяца назад
Brilliant presentation Martin and a great find. I wonder if somebody may be inspired to restore that system. Thank you so much.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
It would be good to see it restored
@o0mdtl0o
@o0mdtl0o 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video martin, i live a stones throw from this location, and im a regular to the weir in the intro,
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Good area isn’t it
@stuartjames222
@stuartjames222 2 месяца назад
Superb..... one of your best 👍👍
@graydonmiller731
@graydonmiller731 3 месяца назад
Fantastic. Thanks Martin.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you 👍🏻
@yonmons
@yonmons 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video thoroughly enjoyed that, and what a surprising ending with a view of that rusting piece of history. Kudos to the team in finding it. Such industrial history lurks in that area your making me miss my home town again Martin.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
😉👍
@TheUpplanning
@TheUpplanning 3 месяца назад
Thank you Mr Martin for i good video about The Mount Sion Beam Pump.(The Black Cat mystery) sending warmest regards from Sweden
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you and best regards to Sweden 🇸🇪
@buzzrabone
@buzzrabone 3 месяца назад
Great video Martin. Would love to see a video on Outwood colliery I grew up playing around those pits in the late eighties early nineties. Great times.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
I think I’ve done one
@MickTilley
@MickTilley 3 месяца назад
Excellent Martin, I live in Bury and cycle the canal and explore the area, so this was very relevant to me, thank you
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
The area that keeps on giving
@pietweety7020
@pietweety7020 3 месяца назад
What a great story and video. Thanks for all you do 🙏👍
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
👌😊
@Carp-bites-runs-uk
@Carp-bites-runs-uk 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video guys
@andrewclarkson5603
@andrewclarkson5603 3 месяца назад
Another facinating program Martin. did you notice the remains of what appears to be a water turbine or wheel among the pipework at 14.44.
@pauldavison7393
@pauldavison7393 3 месяца назад
fantastic story lads, very intereting
@pauldavison7393
@pauldavison7393 3 месяца назад
interesting even lol
@marcoscu
@marcoscu 3 месяца назад
Fascinating video, great work!
@bungee1965
@bungee1965 3 месяца назад
Don't apologise for all the talking, the more info the better. Great fascinating stuff, thank you to all involved.
@johnball1087
@johnball1087 3 месяца назад
Brilliant, great story, told well, I do love watching your stuff, keeping alive the industrial history of not only the north but the whole of the UK
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thanks John 👍🏻
@Electobat
@Electobat 3 месяца назад
Beautiful video thank you for putting in so much effort into it!
@bazra19
@bazra19 3 месяца назад
I had to stop very early on to thank 7you fore NOT drowning the video with music, it was there but very quiet. Thank you. Of course after thanking you I went back in. Thank you lads.
@colinedward3147
@colinedward3147 3 месяца назад
Cracking video, nice one.
@zazaz44
@zazaz44 3 месяца назад
As ever top class!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@martinbarker2316
@martinbarker2316 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video Martin, one of your best 💪
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 месяца назад
Cheers Martin
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