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Why is it almost always a woman who has these stupid terrible takes? I'm beginning to wonder if my childhood out look of "where there's women theres drama" is true
*GASP* Who would ever think that men and women move differently!! It's almost like ppl think they have different body types, sizes, and hormones. Crazy.
They don’t *personally* want the things they lobby for, which is stupid. They simply want to be contrarian for the sake of it (or in some cases, break down norms for arbitrary or purposefully destructive reasons).
How dare you imply men and women aren’t the same! I’m kidding of course. Normal people know they are. Edit: Seems no one realized I was joking. Men and women are different. Now stfu and stop getting mad when we both agree.
Catwoman doesn't move like that because she's a woman, she moves like that because _she's Catwoman._ Batgirl and Poison Ivy don't move like Catwoman. Conversely, Batman doesn't move like that because he's a man, he moves like that because _he's Batman._ The Joker and the Penguin don't move like Batman. Yeesh...
@@abadenoughdude300 I guess it actually would fit. And everyone would say _"Look at the extravagant way the Joker moves! How fitting for that character!"_
@@abadenoughdude300 Since Joker is practically chaos incarnate so him changing up his movement like that perfectly fits in with his personality. In fact, that is typically how various actors playing Joker have made themselves stand out from the other actors playing Joker. You could even turn Joker female using some handwavium accident and nothing would realistically change, same with having a male and female Joker running around because plots where Joker turns other people into Jokers has happened in the past to my knowledge.
@@scratchsoft2347 less because her character is more sexual its because SHE EMULATING CATS, Think about it. Why is the overexhaggerated model walk in fashion called a "cat walk" Its because cats move in that exaggerated manner
There was a female led AC game. Liberation. And the way she played was different. She could charm guards to follow her around corners where she stabbed them. Have they forgotten this? Also she moved differently
Sadly, Liberations was forgotten seemingly as soon as it released due to it intially being stuck on the Vita, and I'm pretty sure the console version was overshadowed by Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flags. A real shame, since it was arguably a more interesting entry than AC3.
AC fans had franchise fatigue, from the yearly releases of that series. They also forgot about the one where you could be Shay, an Assassin turned Templar.
Hell even I remember ads for that game a couple years ago. they're only upset because it's not 'now' . they don't understand context along a timeline. It's like they got goldfish memories.
Well, the author did bring up AC2, so maybe they're just as incompetent as the majority of games journalism? UE is a bit remiss in not pointing that out as AC3:L is presently available on uplay, and the game is easily found with a simple google search.
I liked Liberation... and not just because it happened in and around New Orleans but because of interesting the changes to the usual mechanics was. But the issue is those insane cultists wants a "female only mainline AC game" to "stick it to the evil male gamers" or something. Not because they would really want one but because they think that it would be a victory for them. Not that it will be in reality since a lot of gamers like for instance me, actually does not give a shit about what gender my character is, as long as the game has good gameplay, a good story and good visuals.
@@JoshuaJacobs83 yeah he said how he was tired from fighting Nazis all day lmfao this man can't separate Call of duty world war 2 from real life at this point
@@futureflash6331 If you spent more time acting like the hero you stole your screen name from and less like the neo n@zis that prance about mouthing off, maybe you’d be respected by people around you. Instead, like me, they just feel pity for you.
Batman: peak stoicism and male performance, focus on strength Catwoman: peak flirtyness and using sexuality as a distraction/weapon, focus on agility and speed Who would have *expected* them to be animated differently!
@@darkpinkgirl6684 - Because the games surprising took too much inspiration from the comics even as the series evolved to be more grounded. The art director Hego admitted the direction was “ugly men & beautiful women” who would confront Batman despite the filthy ness of the world.
His argument is incomplete as usual. He has a couple of low hanging fruits like Kotaku he likes to frequent rather than branching out in scholarly writing for a deeper understanding of the issue. He caters to to an anti-sjw crowd that just likes to be told the status quo is acceptable and the world is just fine the way it is.
@@enso8379 well, he is saying common sense, men move different, women move different, hell you take two men one who is she and reserved and the other confident open, THEY move different, big dudes move different from small dudes, and these are based on the attitudes and physiques, and women having A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT physique than men based on their skeletal structure alone..... Will of course move different.
She's a mob boss "you've got a new product, well it would be ashamed if that product were to get cancelled or deemed an outrage" THAT'S Anita's game here
I wonder how many of these journos will end up with severe mental problems as they grow older. Usually mental disabilities get worse as one ages - and if they think they’re fine and don’t seek help, they’re destined to get worse. 🤷♂️
Also in the Army deployed to Afghanistan. I will say about 40% of the women in service are good if not great soldiers. The other 60% of them want nothing to do with soldiering, or fighting and general hooah shit.
I seriously think what they do for fun is stuff like get on a conference video call with other dingdongs that think the same way they do and I picture them all bitching about EVERYTHING that we hear about lol..... It's almost like that's the only "fun" that they have
@@Sir_Catnip Have a close acquaintance who's big into SocJus and I can confirm that's exactly what they do except it's usually an echo chamber chatroom rather than a conference call but same difference.
@@GodOfOrphans not surprised. It’s what potential mass shooters do. They’re mentally ill and only hanging out with people like them and no one else while being in their parents basement with their Windows covered and doors locked. There’s definitely a parallel between SJWs and domestic terrorists
@@Blood-PawWerewolf Not sure about mass shooters and the like, I think they tend to be more socially isolated than echo chambery, but domestic terrorists and other political extremists absolutely drive themselves insane through their echo chambers. No opposition or even devil's advocates to keep a healthy amount of doubt alive and stave off zealotry and also makes it easier to otherise and dehumanize anyone who disagrees because they don't interact with them.
“This is why I hate video games, they all cater to the male fantasy!” *Going on adventures with Pokémon and friends, Peacefully working on a farm and making a family, Being the best border guard in Arstotzka* Okay. 🎩 🐍 no step on snek! 🇭🇰🇺🇸
The entier design of the androids in NieR: Automata also helps with a slightly uncanny feeling. Genius design choice. Not saying that he maybe only did it because he likes to look at sexy women.
The male gaze is always so bad but no one ever talks about the female gaze. It’s never bad when a woman looks at a dude in a romantic, sexual way. But when a man does so, it’s toxic.
From my experience, and it's mostly because I still struggle to break out of that mentality, is because It's more reasonable to say a man looks at a woman sexually than a woman does to a man in society. Which if fucking stupid because they objectify men just as much, but doesn't get any coverage because people think like me.
Yes it does however the women majority genres are an extreme minority compared to the normal genres where the male gaze is standard. Or if that aspect is appropriated into a mainstream work it’s mostly vilified or gets mocked by the public like twilight. When a beach volleyball scene is filmed like in Top Gun is the intent for the filmgoers watching to be sexual for the women or even gay men or show show off how masculine & awesome the players are. The god sculpted body of the Adonis/Fabio character is also played as stupid or naively manipulative of the girls to do his work & is made an antagonist of the main character. Or comparing bath house/outdoor bathing scenes with only males (Eastern Promises/Showdown in Little Tokyo) to that of the numerous female scenes
What's ironic is these same people who complained about Male gaze then started complaining no one was giving them attention any more. Itd be funny if it wasn't so sad
@Shadow Warrior 101 yo seriously, stop spamming. You were just bitching about echo chambers in another comment but youve copy pasted the same exact comment on 6 other threads. Chill tf out
I think part of the reason why they criticize female characters is because people are paying attention to the fictional characters and not to “Real girls” like themselves
I'd love to see these women's reaction when a scientist shows them a model of a male skeleton and a female skeleton. The pelvis alone would cause their heads to explode!
I just had to look that up and it's nothing but hypocrisy that some people believe/reinforce this "dumb-witted sexist notion" yet it's well known and 100% un-deniable physical characteristics that are un-evolvable...
The skeleton is nothing when nearly every women that isn’t a background character almost refuses via their artists to wear normal pants or a blackout skirt
There is a saying: "if someone hates you without a reason, then give them one". The more I see feminists lying about being oppressed, the more I sway to the idea that maybe we should actually give them the oppression they crave so much.
It's almost like... The two sexes are built differently, as in bone structure, and that causes them to move differently. I dunno. I'm probably just being sexist. I always thought the way characters move in games reflects more on their personality, rather than their gender. They aren't limited by real life physics.
You are being sexist, your social credit score has dropped 10 points below the acceptable threshold, please report to your nearest woke education center for re-education.
@@enso8379 cat woman is over the top and flirtatious, an archetype of femme Fatale with a twist of playful adolescent temperament. Not all women are like that in video games. And the point of OP's comment was to joke. You're taking this too seriously.
@@christianp5486 Nobody is saying they aren't. Are they? Care to point out when I said that? See the point is, people like you just love to exaggerate the differences and take great meaning from them (to your identity and sense of purpose), to the point of making up science, putting down others, and in some cases, even physically assaulting or killing them. (there's a reason, for example, trans people are the most vulnerable group right now and in the past) .........It's crazy I know.
People forget that any form of discrimination is about being TREATED differently, based on things that make us different. With that, they seem to forget the simple fact that people simply ARE different from one another, and for some idiotic reason see that as discrimination...
This is why I love my wife. I showed her that clip with Batman and Catwoman. She's not a gamer whatsoever or even that much of batman fan. But she laughed her ass off and even commented that she "loved" his "sashaying" (a word I'd legitimately never heard before) which has a very interesting meaning, look it up if you don't know it :)
As soon as I hear any sort of words like "male gaze" and other words that come from the dingalings on the left, I completely lose interest and roll my eyes.... It's to a point where I don't even want to hear words like "inclusivity" and "diversity" .... It feels like I'm allergic to these woke words and ideas lol, seriously though!
That was from Destiny 1. There were different dances dependent on race and different sitting positions dependent on gender. In Destiny 2, they changed it.
Bro that clip of what Anita was saying about the destiny characters is a misrepresentation, the Hunters sit like that regardless of gender and the warlocks sit like that regardless of gender she literally cheated to get her point across 🤨
Not in Destiny 1. It really was different back then. Also, the female sit pose was super classy and I was jealous my male guardians couldn't sit like that.
Isn't quiet ironic that she complains about girls being portrayed as a "delicate flowers"(Destiny clip), but she made her career out of crying about the most mundane things that only affects priviledge 1st worlders .lol. Oh no, a women is protrayed both sexy and feminine. XD
@@microsoul669 You know what else is funny - they spend their time complaining/hating straight cis males, yet at the same time they want to cosplay as us (both in real life and in fiction) lol. Case in point elliot page, hannah gadsby, miss marvel, abby and etc. XD
2:30 girls sit that way as they were skirts in thier early ages thus not to show panties. It gets ingrained in Habbit. That's it. Nothing else. If anything it makes character more relatable.
When I first saw the female sit animation in Destiny 1 I was really impressed. It reminded me of someone wearing a dress or skirt and I thought it was super classy they included that for the female Guardians. The male guardian animation is just so plain in comparison, to me anyway. Apparently SOME people think it's the other way around. Almost like it's a matter of opinion or something.
@@CowCommando yes. Don't you get it. Now that women's and men's have equal rights. Feminist organisation and activists have no reason to exist and thus are trying to find or at times manufacturer problems to justify thier existence and thus justify thier fundings. They fear of losing there self created jobs
im reading the animators survival toolkit where a very experienced animator is recalling a time where he saw the head of a man walking behind some bushes and just from how the head bopped he jumped to the conclusion he was gay, a few days later he found himm again and struck a convo with him, turns out he was gay, the way we move is defined by who we are
"The next asassins creed needs to have a female protagonist only!" OK lol then imagine this: The nest Laura Croft game needs to have a male protagonist only
Nothing wrong with appreciating beauty. Only the people that worship ugliness are obsessed with the "male gaze." Let us have beauty, let us have good games, let us have fun.
It usually the one who complains about the "male gaze" are the one who never had the "male glaze" happen to them. That why they also trying their best to redefined what is "beautiful" or atleast what is "feminine". As "feminine" and "beauty" both corralate from eachother for the *average* person. lol
its not that they worship ugliness, they hate that anything is worshipped, which is worse, atleast a person who worships ugliness would have taste, these people have none so they want to cut everyone's tongue for it
Im female. My hips sway when i walk and I move different than my brother. Im so sick of modern feminism, its swung so far to the extreme its injuring women at this point Also women love to gaze at men as much as men gaze at women... thats just human nature and an ancient biological trait that helped find mates
@@soundwavesuperior6761 What's funny is that those feminist say men can't speak about women's issues because they aren't women. But then turn around and say how men should sit when they have no idea what it's like to have dangly bits between their legs or vastly different bones structures.
Wider hips means you move differently naturally. Can confirm as a man with a wide hip that unless I force myself to not sway(which actually make me feel really awkward) my hips sway when I walk. I imagine that it's even more so for women.
Also, what about lesbians? They also like to gaze at women. How unprogressive of these progressives to exclude the entire first letter of the LGBT acronym from the discussion.
I still remember when Sarkeesian was claiming that Batman's cape was DESIGNED to hide his keister from women staring at it. Not only was that completely made-up, but it was presented as evidence of "patriarchy".
Honestly, man, your video essays are unparalleled in articulation, flow and coherence. Always a pleasure to hear your analysis of cultural and political phenomenon/patterns. Keep at it, brother!
well excuuuuuuse me princess but males and females have different movement patterns both in real life and in fiction DEAL WITH IT AND LEAVE GAMING ALONE ALREADY
@@futureflash6331 im really passionate about gaming i owe it so much because it helped me get through some bad times so i would defend it til the very end
@@donshovi9345 oh you're a bro too but in my original comment I was referring to the Han Solo voice I was hearing lol but yeah I agree with what you said 100%
I'm not gonna lie, the idea of playing a Courtesan Assassin in Florence in an AC game would be amazing. I loved playing as the Courtesan in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood's Multi-player because I felt like she fit the idea perfectly way back when. So long as her character is well written, I'm certainly down for playing that game.
The gameplay could focus heavy on stealth and your assassination methods would be poison, or really quick kills, no indirect fighting, no groups of enemies, just good old stealth, lots of information gathering and spying, and finally, an assassination of a big target, that took a very long time to play out. It would make every kill in that game so memorable but Ubisoft can't be bothered ...her backstory could be how she was sold or betrayed by some rich nobles and was left for dead, then years later comes back as a trained assassin courtesan to take her revenge.
I know right? It also reminds me of the "Mary Jane pose" meme (for those unfamiliar, it was a Spiderman album cover depicting Mary-Jane sitiing on a couch with her legs positionned weirdly.) Men trying to replicate the pose? "What is this I can't even" Women trying to replicate the pose? "This is totally fine"
Thats something that, for me, really tipped their hand to the fact that their entire feminist movement is complete bullshit. On the one hand, Men bad because "muh toxic masculinity", but simultaneously these same people demand that women act in more of a manly fashion, pursue male interests and fields of research (STEM), and adopt masculine mannerisms and attitudes. So much for all these things being "toxic". Seems more like Sarkessian and her lot suffer from a serious case of penis envy. They hate us cause they aint us.
Sometimes i wonder if i somehow leaped between dimensions and i stranded on a "comedy dimension". Because it really feels like i'm watching a fucking comedy but irl
Without watching the video, my simple opinion on the male gaze is... well, simple. So what? I like looking at gorgeous women. I like looking at funny scenes of men acting like women. It's not at all political. Anita is and will forever will be irrelevant.
@@vlakatvlakatn1465 The reason she makes it political is cause she acts like it's a problem. When in reality its not. Its natural for men and women to sit, and move differently. Another issue is the double standard that was pointed out in this video. In short shes using a non existent problem to push an agenda. That's what makes it political.
@@jorgenjorgensen2739 I didn't honestly think there were women who hated the idea that they could be attractive or sexy, Shit, If I had a body like Anita's you bet your nads that I'd be strutting down the sidewalk getting some attention lol
That point about OnlyFans is correct, women sexualizing themselves for money is completely okay, twerking in music videos is okay and other defilement is completely okay but if women are sexy in video games its BAD.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that men and women are biologically not the same? Naturally if you want to attract a mate, you need to play to your biological strengths, and this means that we play different roles - for men, we play off the fact that we're strong and have self control, because testosterone to a large degree allows for us to do so. Women don't have testosterone, so there would be no benefit for them to act like they do. Instead, they flaunt the behaviors that are enhanced through estrogen, which they do naturally produce, and that men do not. Naturally since it takes a few minutes for a man to a woman, women tend to be a lot more choosy and restrained when it comes to letting 'just anyone' have kids with them. It takes just under a year for a woman to have a single kid. It takes just under 15 minutes for a man to make this happen. Virtually all of our behaviors and interactions in society are based off this fact - why women didn't fight in wars, why women were given preferrence over men in times of danger - women are a lot harder to replace than men simply for the fact that lost women means a loss in rate of reproduction. A loss in men means just a loss in potential suitors. It's an unfortunate fact. Women act to account for this fact, as do men, on an innate, instinctual level. The people who are behind the idea of trying to remove such a function of our biology are either del usional or ma levolent. Or, both
"Why is it so hard for people to understand that men and women are biologically not the same?" Because even the simplest biological facts are offensive and problematic now. There's a video of a uni professor (biology, I think) where she says "Is there anyone who actually finds it offensive that men and women are biologically different?" What followed was the woketivists from the audience knocking down the recording equipment and screaming what a fascist (sic) she is. This is the world we live in.
Female Gamer: Male Gamers: Female Gamer: "OYMYGAWD my eyes are up here, boys! How dare you objectify me? I feel so uncomfortable, this is why girls won't play your little nerd game!"
As a female gamer, I have played both female and male characters. Their movement is different because everyone moves, sits and talks differently. She should just play games that have gray cubes for characters.
As always, an informative, balanced and intelligent video that completely dismantles the woke mass hysteria that is currently poisoning the gaming world. The world is going crazy...
I wouldn't call this woke at all. If anything it's the opposite. It also detracts from real issues such as wealth gaps and health costs. These types women control social media, but they aren't satisfied with just that. The want to control critical thoughts and perception while wielding the power to destroy lives. The only reason they can move so smoothly due to it being socially unacceptable to attack them even with facts. That's my take.
Catwoman is exaggerated feminine movement even within the Batman universe, but she's that way ON PURPOSE. She uses sex like Batman uses fear; to control and intimidate. Her movements are part of her character. Using her as an example of typical female sexuality is hilariously missing the point. It's like saying Wolverine is an example of typical male violence. Yes, he's violent but there's absolutely nothing typical about him.
“She’s sitting like Ariel from The Little Mermaid” You’ve heard it hear first, people. If you go into the military (or any physically-demanding program/sport) you’re not allowed to be feminine. You must shed your femininity! It has been decreed!! And she says everyone else is sexist. She’s not sitting in the middle of a warzone, she’s sitting on a patch of grass in a safe place on her home planet. You’ll sit in a more relaxed pose when there’s no imminent threat. I can’t believe people took her seriously.
@@mrshmuga9 I might argue, at this point, that there has never been a "person" that took her seriously... Those who take Anita, and her ilk, seriously are those who have willingly surrendered their right to be thought of as human, since they knowingly reject the most basic facts about the human animal.
That's the problem. You see, there's no such thing as gender difference. That's extremely transphobic. Except when shrilly proclaimed by whichever misandrist is currently occupying the spotlight. Oh wait, did i mess that up? Was it no gender difference or infinite genders, i can't seem to remember.
Anyone remembers an episode of the fairly oddparents where humanity becomes all equal as some kind of grey ghosts? i see us walking down that path as some people seem to want, everyone is the same no one is diferent
I still think it's the weakest of the serie. But the serie as a whole is incredibly strong, so even the worst game in it is still an easy 9/10 for me. Sadly, it was overhated because of technical issues.
@@diersteinjulien6773 Those technical issues were only on PC and were rectified YEARS ago. People don't like Arkham Knight because they're morons who don't know why they don't like it. See how I just revealed the truth? TAA DAA😆
@@shinbakihanma2749 I don't disagree, but the audience makes its opinion on release and doesn't care about later fixes. Also, a lot of people disliked the tank-batmobile segment. I myyself considered they were good and fit the story perfectly.
@@diersteinjulien6773 Most people originally played the game on home consoles, therefore technical issues are NOT a factor in why people dislike the game. People don't like the game because they heard other people say they didn't like the game, and they want to be a part of the majority. I have yet to hear anyone give a sensible reason as to why they either don't like Arkham Knight or why it's the worst Arkham game, even though it is far and away the best game in the series.
Am I the only person that's played Assassin's Creed Liberation? The main character is a black woman....*shrugs*....and you can use her femininity to take down foes, like it's literally a thing.
I didn't play much of Destiny 1 (just went through the story) so it might be different, but in Destiny 2 those sitting emotes are 2 completely different emotes and each gender can use them. I used the feminine sit on my male hunter for a while because I thought it was funny
I love your honest, logical analysis of things in your videos. I agree with a lot of things you said in this one, but there are a few things I would point out. In general, the male gaze in visual entertainment media is not a myth at all. As a film student, we literally were taught male gaze as a topic and its implementation in cinema. I know how to shoot a scene in male gaze, so I know male gaze when I see it in a film or game (and trust me, the entertainment industry is full of it because it really sells well). However, The problem in our industry isn't the prevalence of one kind of character but the lack of the other kinds-that's why we have more diversity in our films now. I'm a male and my postures are very feminine (except walking) and I love that-and I would like to see male characters with feminine traits in video games and films, but that definitely doesn't imply that I'd want masculine male characters to be removed. What needs to be normalized is the inclusion of all kinds of humans in our pop culture (not all in a single game or film) instead of saturating the platform with one kind, so that no one feels left out or abandoned.
As a woman, I don't want females in video games to be like men. I want them to be women, even a bit exaggeratedly female like Catwoman. What Anita Sarkessian wants is something I would find boring.
I love how your mind and thought processes think inside, outside and back and forth between the two when it comes to proverbial boxes. It’s lonely once you leave Oblivion and realize how few and far between your new peers are. Just know it’s MUCH appreciated.
Movement is heavily influenced by anatomy. Women usually walk and move from the hip because their bone and muscle structure makes it more natural and healthy for them to do so. Men generally find that attractive because it's a recognizable evolutionary indicator of a compatible partner for procreation and we are wired to look for these traits, possibly due to them contributing to success in our natural selection.
