The Narratives of India w/ Abhijit Iyer-Mitra | PGRadio ep. 75 

It's a addiction now to listen Abhijit on any topic.

Abhijeet is the kind of Modi ,Hindutva critic who makes sense . Because left of India is soo corrupt and mean it's better to have Abhijeet as the prime opposition to Modi Govt.

Abhijit is a gem of an intellectual. I would also recommend that you invite Dr. Anand Ranganathan.

Whenever I see Abhijit I click

Bring Prof. Abhinav Prakash his take on Dalit issues, Hindutva and Indian sociology is worth listening. He's an original thinker I can say.

Thanks for bringing Abhijit i love this guy he is brutally honest❤

Love abhijit want more of him and his interviews .

PG getting my hopes up

Hey Abhijit, Bro create a RU-vid channel of ur own. Its time!!!!

Do one on Moplah riots, I was astounded how it was brushed under the carpet

Hey man it was quality talk .I have subs u. Mitra is a gem glad u call him .

Brutally honest. Love abhijit.

This would be an amazing podcast. Abhijeet is one of the best defence expert of our country.

Exactly, Abhijit... There are 3 kinds of Hindutva-vadis: 1. The progressives 2. Conservatives 3. Regressives I recently came across someone from this third class of fools who claim "caste system prevents undue competition", "Shri Krishna advocated for caste system... are you better than him?", "The Vedic culture didn't pollute nature unlike Western industrialization", etc. They are the ones who drove me (& I presume a number of others too) away from Hindutva a while ago. The American cultural icons like Elon Musk, Bezos, etc., seem way more appealing in the face of someone who tells me that just because I come from an ancestral farming background (which I actually do), I must stick to my profession (stick to the "familial competencies"). Ambitious Indians (Hindus) will not favor Hindutva (if not downright seek to diminish it) if these voices ever rise above the fringe (where I hope they are now). And it's the ambitious individuals who led to the recent rise of the Northern Europeans (the "West"). The average shrub farmer who stayed in his place or the entrenched nobility didn't make it happen. The ones who made me reconsider (& hopefully those others too) are you, J.S Deepak, Abhinav Prakash Singh, etc. The metropolitan youth won't exactly be moved by non-futuristic thinking. The best case would be for India to become a leading center of knowledge & commerce once again, while retaining it's civilizational identity. But a purist aversion to absorbing ideas from out-groups will be catastrophic to even our most immediate future (with China working 20-30 year plans to dominate the world with data, AI, outer space).

This man is really crazy ..... Would love him to be our policy maker but unfortunately it's India.

Lot of good takeaways from this conversation. Any news outlet is propaganda if you are able to figure out their ideology/political leaning, that's the best way to filter out information, I would hear out Abhijeet on defence related topic, Sai on any judicial topics, Swapan Das on idea of India (in contrast with Sashi Tarhoor) and make up my mind on hundreds of topics which need critical understanding, it would be quite naive for people to think one media or one new channel can be right/true/accurate all the time. True news doesn't come curated anymore, it needs a be worked for. Also it is important to remember that people are not really loyal to one political party, they are more tied to different narratives that define these political party. As long as Rahul Gandi is a PM face of the opposition i wouldn't vote of it, the day sashi tarhoor pushes for a same sex marriage bill (as in equality) I would vote of his party. If BJP continues on it's economic development trajectory (I come from a tier 2 city we now have metro under the bjp government) I will vote of Modi and his cabinate. In short give me reason why not to vote for Modi then give me reason on why to vote modi then my internal compass will decide based on tradeoffs based on better of two evils (I say evil because 'political hamam me sabhi nange hai!'!) . At the moment that moral compass is pointing at Modi. Change my mind! Thanks for this conversation, now i can go on with my day's work!

Abhijeet made a brilliant point at 56.10 just because Arnab's right wing opinions are funded by ads doesn't make it any less worse than Abhinandan's left wing opinions which are funded by it's support model both are creating an Ecochamber of opinions both are setting their preferred narrative. So, both are catering to a set of people why should Newslaundry hold a moral ground over Republic? Infact Newslaundry probably has 98 or so videos on Arnab So what Arnab is to Newslaundry is what Modi is to kunal kamra.

Next with MD Nalapat on the mindset that will take over pok (editor of Sunday guardian) After that Sanjeev Sanyal ( principal economic advisor) on cities and economic backend structures , Bibek Debroy (chairman of economic advisory board) is also someone who will talk on puranas and chanakyan economics (16.96% tax) Please get these people (within 1yr if you could)

The art to not offend any side should be learned from prakhar 😂😂 loved the conversation bro now I know how to talk to my friends with extreme positions from both sides 😁

It would be amazing if you bring one guy from left and one guy from non left together. It would be a treat to watch nuanced arguments from both the sides. Also, the hypocrite side inside them will come out in the open.

Thanks for revealing these wonderful personalities to us. An eye opener. Definitely

This should have been live

Please bring Nitin Gupta Revaldo. He is right wing stand up comic which is rear breed in stand up comic around the world.

We want more of Abhijit Mira on PG Radio, what an interesting perspective he added on Republic's journalism. I feel we live in a narrative era every and its very complicated to decide what is the objective truth. I dont know how to figure out but great episode!!!!!!

Wow!!! This is so refreshing..

Liked the video segmentation. Gives us an option to choose what we want to listen.

This is gold.

I like PG Radio not because I agree with its views but because I agree with its approach. We may have many differences but what is needed is to find in how many ways we agree and keep the dialogue open until we reach the converging point. I believe that a sincere discussion & dialogue between very honest divergent people can bring a fantastic new view points than between a two in agreement. Those who are truly democratic can only work towards convergence. Again, remember, convergence does not mean two are totally agreeing but they agree on prioritisation of so many actions (so many baby steps) a young democratic & diverse country like India should make. I have voted for Modiji in 2014 & 2019 and perhaps May vote again in 2024. But, like Abhijit Iyer Mitra, I do have strong disagreement with Modiji’s government functioning. But, it is 100 times better than the corrupt UPA. I do not want to sing in praise of Modiji forgetting so many other steps we need to make. I do not want to work for optics but for results. If I am given a chance to work with this Govt,, I shall surely invite many well meaning people like Abhijit and perhaps will be able to bind Abhijit with some serious work in the government, especially in the Strategic & Security matters.

Awesome! ppl were demanding gold and u have brought diamond for them😅 grt security analyst,Impressive n articulate #anandRanga

Excellent .

Wow this is gonna be epic

24:00 Abhijit you broke my heart saying all those things about Gujjus :D...btw, great video!

Abhijit is the mirror which governments should keep in front of them, but is there any way he is leading anyone, yes by being a mirror and showing what is working and what is not

Abhijit is brutally honest 🙏🙏🙏

P.V. NARSIMHA RAO IMPLEMENTED THE DR. SWAMY'S ECONOMIC POLICES 7 NOT DR. MOUNMOHAN SINGH. P.V.N HAS WRITTEN THIS IN HIS AUTO-BIOGRAPHY

What do you think of the latest announcement on reforming the education system.

Could you have a read at the New Education Policy that was announced after your chat & invite Abhijit again to share his views too. You guys mentioned education so it would be quite an interesting follow-up to this amazing talk.

Abhijit is also a member of the LGBTQ community 🌈

@PG Radio : What particular Newlaundry interview were you talking about? 55:41

Abhijit is absolutely the best of us

The true abhijeet iyer. ❤💕❤💕❤💕💕❤

Cool

No NewsLaundry , Scroll , Times Now or Republic were harmed in this video .

prakhar bhai op work 🤎

27:47 About federalism question, maybe let's think about more why federalism at state level will not do much good (maybe more bad) Many of our states are themselves of the size of countries so similar problems persist (and there are more arguments, like language based states boundaries which only increased the divide in India, etc etc). But how about more federalism wrt chartered cities... So maybe a question for some next guest to whom it suits, what if we do away with states and directly empower districts. Forget constitution for now, just a hypothetical.

I dont agree with Abhijit . He criticize GST . Before GST , It was easy to send the goods to UK then to state UP from Maharashtra . In terms of Infrastructure BJP has done much more better than INC . BJP is coming with a new education policy in next 10 days , where ISRO ex Chairman, IIT professors and great minds are involved . Its a complete 180 degree shift. Also you cant expect magic in 6 years as compare to what Congress screwed in 70 years .Removed article 370 from Kashmir . China enjoyed the fruits of education after 2 decades. Yes Abhijeet is definitely good in Defence but i cant take his advice in other subjects.

Sir first with due respect, I honestly feel that your channel is one of the most underrated channels, your subtitles have spelling mistakes and flaws

Abhijit should look at chronology research by the likes of Nilesh Oak. Going by Romila Thapar's dating of Rig Veda is strange for someone who hates third raters and mediocrity.

Abhijit repeatedly saying "la di da di da" is so irritating. Its not his fault though, the third class acts by our governments obviously frustrated him up.

The media industry is changing, before mass media people got their news from each other, then when radio and TV came they were fed with propaganda, now with social media and conversations like this we're going back to that phase where we get info from different sources. Now we're able to filter the bullshit and listen to conversations like this to make ourselves clear about issues and current affairs.

Absolutely fun to hear this conversation. But I beg to differ from what Mr Mitra said entirely. I believe we need to have a holistic view of Modi's work. Socialist yes, but steps are being taken to stimulate growth through privatization of assets.

Namaste

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Hi Prakhar, everything from the beginning to the end was spot-on. Abhijit is indeed an intelligent and well-read man. However, at 50:40, and then throughout the Abhinandan Sikhri segment, there could have been a couple of strong rebuttals to Abhijit's arguments that 'we should discard both news streams because they are all biased'. 1. While he didn't like the news outlets such as NDTV, Scroll, The Wire and News Laundry because they are also ideologically driven, one can not skip the part they these news outlets do indeed show/cover much important daily news across the country (non-opinionated) in comparison to RepublicTV, ZeeNews and others. For years I have observed these left-wing outlets covers a lot more of our current problems like unemployment, natural crisis (2018 in Kerala, 2020 Bengal, Assam), water crisis, and most of the average Indian concerns, much more clearly and in their prime-time/daily news than the right-wing does. I don't think the right and left is ideologically driven to the same degree and that is extremely "important". It's like saying FOX and Economist/MSNBC/NYT are all BS because they all ideologically driven. 'Right' in India, I feel has gone too far in serving its interests, and its basically discounting the left just because they also publish opiniated pieces. 2. Now, this is very specific to NDTV. I feel NDTV has a perenial anti-government bias not particularly a left or socialist one or even if they did have a socialist bias, they are very very committed to it, which actually makes them more trustworthy because they are not connected to any person or institution but to a clear ideology of serving common people. Why I say this, If you go back in years of 2012-2014, NDTV was one of the foremost critics of Congress Govt and they also supported many ideas/politicians from the BJP and AAP. (Lokpal, RTI, anti-corrpution, anti-dynasty). They also continued that in the past in Vajpayee years and congress-I (I just don't have the confidence in the statement because I was too young to observe). I feel if you can somehow arrange to have Abhijit and Abhinandan together, that would an extremely amazing podcast. Both are decent human and quite knowledgeable in their own field. I would pay for that stuff. Take care!

I understand Abjihit my dad used to say I was "Brutaly Honest" that I did not have to lie "just use a filter"

M from dps rkp!

30:25 I like the education issues that you discussed but what is the solution?

Bookmark 1:00:00

Abhijit should write a book

Please bring shaam sharma

Prakhar's old content is gold

Your volume is lower than Abhijeet's. Had to keep adjusting the volume throughout.

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Can anyone suggest some good books to understand the true narratives of India?

15:58 1:06:00

prakhar bhaiya You should make an podcast about nihlism and existential crisis If all of us and even if the universe is going to sleep forever one day than What's the point of doing, developing or achieving anything in our life

Maybe the host is not aware that burkha dutt snuggled her cell phone while covering kargil war due to which many of our soldiers got martyred.

The fact is every individual thinks about him the way you think about you and that is the trouble in the world.

Is this old interview?

SIRS 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

You talk 100 percent correct but your thought should reach among all the people's it should not be limited

Delhiwala Rogan 👏

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i really like how abhijit overtake central oblivious voter like this guy on opposition in the opinion on journalism

And compare this podcast with madrasa RU-vidr Dhruv 😂

49:27 Abrahamisation of hindutva

Education Reform...

This is gonna be epic shit!!!

19:43 wealth is good unless not stolen from the poor...

Anand Ranganathan!!

I am surprised the host is not aware of Narasimha Rao's contribution to the nation's growth!!!!!!🤔😮

Bring Abhijit more and Dhruv less .

His voice reminds me of Karan Johar & Deepak Kalal 😂

hey thanx for explaining Marxism in a nut-shell

My views matches with abhijit👀

The challenge in India is of centre state alignment on any matter. Ideas are opposed bcos politics of parties calls for it. That's why the preoccupation of the centre in having its party govern the state's too. As a result explosive growth has deluded India all the time except when IT and outsourcing seized global imagination in 2000s. Even there , it was inspite of and not bcos of UPA govt. The second challenge is the enormous power wielded by bureaucrats who are not accountable to anyone and are used to power as a source of self aggrandisement rather than as service to nation. It is funny that these two classes , politician and bureaucracy blame each other. The third challenge is the falling apart of the false social and national narrative peddled by nehruvian vision of India, faced with the onslaught of factual information enabled by internet and the social media. The people expectation now goes beyond mere livelihood matters to cultura identity and the need for truth and reconciliation. It also has called the bluff of the elitist intelligentsia and in a sense is seeking to democratise soft power. The fourth challenge is the disruption caused by the elite together with a decimated congress by virtue of the eco system traditionally dominated by them, only bcos they're unable to digest that a government in India could ever rise above the divide and rule policy and pursue development and safeguarding of national integrity. Lest they get consigned to dust bin of history, this lobby is trying to project the present regime as dividing the society by spreading deliberate falsehood and fear mongering.

actually bmw and potatoes r not taxed equally in any country wrth talking abt :)

How can there be a positive manifestation of Hindutatva?

3:46 abusing on twitter constricted family indians being naturally untruthful? 5:00 -why? how? pretense, grace of your social role more important than your pragmatic reality and performance potential in India 5:50 spectrum of third ratedness 6:55 -analysis -mediocrity high standards 7:45 8:20 apparent hypocrisy? 15:08 economic narratives needed over cultural identity? distribution over growth 18:10 21:10 what post 2014? (godhra 22:20) gujarati mindset - no obstructionism 23:50 delhi 24:50 26:57 federalism? urban dev 29:00 agriculture 30:25 indian ed system problems 57:20 how to make sense of reality? social media media 59:10 market shares 1:01:40 1:03:15 getting shit honesty in politics 1:04:30

Hey can we get some clarity on how Ravish Kumar reports because his prime time news doesn't involve debates or the core NDTV model at 1:00:55

55:14 👁️👁️

If you are not in left wing then you had your common Sense working and you are intellectual. Understanding to the reality nearest picture is here.if you don't like, give me up forever.

yaar ye anchor kisi hero jaisa lag rha.

Prakhar, pl speakup. your voice is not clear in long part of your conversation

5:02 - Glitch in the matrix. Abhijit mutates.

India has no dearth of analysts. The problems of development are hamstrung by an entrenched bureaucracy and political opportunism. Basic needs versus catching up with the industrialized nations is non-starter. The state has to concentrate on creating an enabling environment that will help Indian society to realize it;s potential.

news itself becomes ad if its public funded

Abhijeet mentions " third ratedness " as though his definition or standard is the benchmark. Is there an international accepted marker for "third ratedness "? I am really not able to wrap my head around a single GST slab. Abhijeet wants his BMW taxed at the same level as a tiger biscuit ?

Get Anand Ranganathan please

02:15😀