The National Dex controversy surrounding Pokemon Sword and Shield is one of the biggest blunders for the Pokemon series in a very long time, however, it also isn't really a controversy... Bother me on Twitter: / hypercharge_sam
Going to disagree with a couple things here. 13:25 There is a clear difference with "doesn't exist in the game" and "not obtainable outside of transferring or trading". If a Pokemon is in the game, then it's in the game. Half of them being unobtainable outside of transferring and online trading IS dumb, but they're in the game regardless and perfectly usable should you obtain them. 15:49 Not necessarily true. Pokemon games starting with X/Y have noticeably less content, balance and polish than most of the DS games. There is a very real reason on why "BW2 were the last good Pokemon games" is a common statement. 22:21 Something you need to realize is that most of the complains regarding the graphics animations boils down to two things: 1. The fact SwSh is on a remotely powerful console instead of a Leapfrog toy 2. The fact that Gamefreak promised higher-quality animations to make up for the dex cut. 24:48 The older games were objectively better overall. That's all there is to it. For the record I've hated the state of Pokemon and the quality of the recent games since ORAS. 27:27 Again... not true at all. The best Pokemon games like Platinum, HG/SS and BW2 don't have flaws like awful graphics, awful animations and virtually no postgame content. Not to mention the difficulty of SwSh makes older Pokemon games look hardcore in comparison thanks to the (now forced!) Exp. Share.
There is a clear difference between "doesn't exist in the game" and "not obtainable outside of trading and transferring", but the point I was trying to make was that to a casual player who picks this up as a single player experience, it might as well be the same thing. I mean, if the only way for someone to obtain a Pokemon is to go on Reddit and coordinate a global trade with someone, then that Pokemon might as well not exist. I suppose I just have a really old-school mindset when it comes to this sort of thing. I can at least understand version exclusives and having Trade evolutions because your suppose to meet up with a friend who's playing the other version, but if both players picked up the game from scratch, then you both can't obtain the missing Pokemon within the game, which in my opinion, is the only thing that matters! When the solution to getting a Pokemon is to turn off the game and go on the internet, then it might as well not even exist to the vast majority of players. I can understand the difference, but that's what I was trying to get across. I do think there's a honest discussion to be had about having sprites versus the 3D models. I mean, obviously there's a lot of artistic merit for preferring the sprites, because the 3DS just didn't have the processing power to make the 3D models look good. Honestly, those 3DS games look like shit with the extremely low resolution, so clearly, the DS games will obviously look better by comparison. On the other hand, while Pokemon Sword and Shield has it's own issues, it's still the best looking Pokemon game to date, which in the grande scheme of video games, look kind of average for the most part. Of course, Platinum, HG/SS didn't have animation problems because the sprites didn't move at all! I do think there's a charm with the animation for Black and White, but in my opinion, the way the camera squashes and distorts the pixel art kind of looks awful to me and I honestly prefer Pokemon Sword and Shield at this point. Maybe it looks better on an emulator, but when I replayed Black a year or so ago, I thought it looked kind of ugly during the battles, especially since the DS has such a low resolution to begin with. Of course, you can still hate the animation and graphical issues with Pokemon Sword and Shield, but the earlier Pokemon games don't look as good as people make it out to be. My favorite game in the series would probably be Gen 2 (including the remake), but like I said in the video, you're still getting the same experience from every single Pokemon game (at least until you reach the end credits, which is where most people stop playing anyways). Of course, I can objectively say that Gen 2 is the best because you can go back to Kanto and do all this other shit once you've beaten the game, but once I've reached the end credits, then everything else doesn't really matter to me anymore. In fact, it seems like everyone's favorite Pokemon game boils down to whatever you can do in the post-game, because the core experience of every game up until the end credits is exactly the same! There are slight differences between each generation (like the EXP share, new Pokemon types, ect..), but it really doesn't change the game in a significant way to the point where someone might prefer Gen 2 because of the battle system or Gen 6 because of the story. It all just boils down to the same thing for me. It's one of the main why I still have tons of respect for Pokemon Colosseum, because despite it being kind of average, the premise of the game is so drastically different to anything Game Freak has ever made that it still stands out even to this day.
HyperCharge "the point I was trying to make was that to a casual player who picks this up as a single player experience, it might as well be the same thing." Understandable. "while Pokemon Sword and Shield has it's own issues, it's still the best looking Pokemon game to date, which in the grande scheme of video games" I don't think higher resolution and more polygons automatically means better graphics. SwSh as a whole is just unpleasant to look at in half of the areas of the game to the point of being distracting. "Of course, you can still hate the animation and graphical issues with Pokemon Sword and Shield, but the earlier Pokemon games don't look as good as people make it out to be." Gen 2 has my favorite battle animations in the series because they do a great job at making the attacks straight to the point and impactful while leaving the viewer with a lot of room for imagination. Pokemon as a whole has never looked above average in term of graphics, but SwSh is easily the worst looking Switch exclusive alongside Three Houses (highest grossing franchise Vs. much smaller series that was on the verge of death years ago). Heck I'd still argue Three Houses looks better overall because its visuals are more consistent in comparison. "There are slight differences between each generation (like the EXP share, new Pokemon types, ect..), but it really doesn't change the game in a significant way to the point where someone might prefer Gen 2 because of the battle system or Gen 6 because of the story." The fanbase as a whole thinks Gen 5 is the best because of the story alone, and many people avoid playing the games before Gen 4 because of the lack of the physical/special split.
@@Shyguymask I think you might be overestimating how much people actually invest in the combat system with these games. For the average player, as long as you know what's super effective against what, you can basically steamroll the entire game, which is why it's such a good game for kids. Even with Gen 1, it was entirely possible to over level your starter Pokemon and tackle your way to elite four purely from having a level advantage. I mean, if you understand the physical/special split and how attack/special attack works, you do have a major advantage over casual players, but having that knowledge isn't really important for getting to the end of the game, since the only important thing is having a type advantage. Again, I suppose it's more important with Pokemon Battles with other players to understand the stats, but that's just not my kind of thing at all and I've never cared. This is totally off topic, but I've always thought the story for Gen 5 was kind of weak in the sense that it didn't really go anywhere with it. The game takes this interesting concept of addressing the morals of capturing Pokemon, but since Pokemon can't address the issues without acknowledging that N is actually right, they kind of just half ass wave it away and say, "Oh no, slavery is totally fine, because the Pokemon love it!". Meanwhile, the only way the game wraps up the story is that the leader of Team Plasma was actually evil and just wanted to take control over everyone's Pokemon, so they didn't even have the balls for the villain to even be morally grey. I mean, N was pretty cool, but the entire story has an amazing concept which they completely squandered. Of course, I don't expect them to address the issue and go super dark with it, but it just ended up being the standard Pokemon story of stopping the evil leader and the amazing concept which draws you in gets put to the wayside and gets forgotten about. Maybe Pokemon Black and White 2 goes a little further with it? I have no clue cause I never played it.
Bro, you literally said everything I thought about this series but I could've never put it this well together, great video gonna start using that McDonald analogy myself lol. I don't get how sonic fans get so much flak when this fandom exists and it has the dumbest and toxic people I ever met.
I still stand my opinion about Pokemon being Nintendo's most stagnant and lazy franchise. The series has just gotten worse and worse to the point where I have lost interesting in the series and justmoved to other monster collecions RPGs like Dragon Quest and Yo-kai Watch. Sword and Shield are just so mediocre and shitty, that the lack of the National Dex is the LEAST of the problems these game has.
Kazoorion yeh I agree. That is why I skipped sun and moon and sword and shield. I was bored with the game. Maybe I’ll pick up the next one that comes out after I have forgotten the game sufficiently so it deals new again
I was debating between picking up Sword/Shield or Digimon World Next Order for a long time, and ended up going with Digimon. It was refreshing to play a sort of monster collection/vpet game with that much depth. No regrets in that decision. Pokemon is just so fucking played out at this point, which is a shame as so many other series are moving forward and improving.
HyperCharge After finallllly getting the remastered version I have to say: it’s one of the greatest games of all time! But just out of curiosity are you going to make something on Xenoblade DE now as its ported to Switch?
Literally said everything that I felt about the madness that ensued. Yeah, it was kinda messed up, but man some people blew it the fuck out of proportion. Also when we gonna hear about your monster hunter experience? I wanna hear the good AND the bad about it!
Overdone “why don’t you have a million subs, your videos are epic” comment you’ve probably seen a lot. Good video, your voice was broke for half of it, I sub now.
I didn't really think of the DLC as a replacement for a third/fourth game in the same generation, but it makes absolute sense because that's what those kinds of games are. Like with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, they're literally the same games but with more post game content. I already beat Sun, so why would I bother playing through it again just for like 2 more hours of new gameplay? My first game in the series was Emerald so I wasn't even aware of the controversy of that Generation at the time. Fun video as always!
To be fair, Astral Chain sold pretty well all things considered. The Wonderful 101 and a lot of Platinumgames earlier stuff got straight up shafted tho, but it seems like they finally have enough notoriety to get people to buy there stuff now.
@@turtleanton6539 It's just the Switch effect. No one cared about games on the Wii U that weren't already attached to massive names in gaming, because no one cared about the Wii U..
Just recently found your channel and I agree with you for the most part. My hot take on the issue is they should have done a dex cut sooner because how much longer can they continue to add new pokemon with each game before the series completely implodes on itself. Of course the battle animations are simplistic because someone had to figure out attack animations for almost 1000 pokemon and he would like to see his family again in the next century and the problem is only going to get WORSE. Yeah SwSh reuses the 3DS models because how many man hours do you think it would take to 1. make a new engine and 2. complete each new model, properly rig them, and then program their interactions with all the different moves while also making all new animations for every attack with a tiny ass budget, a smaller then average team for AAA development and no time.
I didn't care that we couldn't trade over EVERY pokemon. What I did care about was how underutilized the switch tech was for what should have been a revival point for the franchise. That being said, I was extremely sad and depressed to discover that I couldn't transfer over my starters from all the previous games at the very least. I would have been happy (somewhat) if I could have sat back at the end of the game and look at my party consisting of each of my starters from the previous games. I mean yeah it's all nostalgia but each starter for me was like a marker of where I was in my life at the time. It's like my own personal historical timeline made up via pokemon starters. THAT'S why I didn't buy the game, because it felt like a part of me would be missing as I would be playing through the game.
I felt like Sword and Shield was always going to be a weird transition period, especially since in order to make a game much more grande, they'd have to put in way more effort than they did with the handheld systems. I'm hoping they'll build off these games and start doing more innovative stuff, because if the next couple of games are just Sword and Shield again, it would be incredibly disappointing.
I just like to imagine a Pokemon experience where everything is obtainable in one game without trading or version exclusivity. Just throw a legacy team together with all your old favorites or go all out with a brand new team.
If they ever make that game, it will be Game Freak's equivalent to pressing the emergency button when they literally have no other options left. It's similar to how Square Enix finally getting around to making the FF7 Remake once the mainline series started becoming shit.
Im pretty sure Gamefreak wants to put in every Pokemon in Sword And Shield. But Pokemon Company/ Gamefreak is a business so they rather sell it to you.
I remember when hearing about how my favorite Pokemon(Sceptile) isn't in the game,I left several joke comments about complaining on some videos about national dex and I left several serious comments about me sad that Sceptile isn't in the game even tho I have never transfer Pokemon before,when I got the game,I found it really fun,I agree with all the points you made in this video
This is like the only Nintendo fan that has a shit load of common sense, I've seen a few videos this week by RU-vid recommendations and I have nothing but mad respect.
He’s the only one who realizes the fact that video game developers aren’t going to craft a game around his expectations. If other gamers realized that they weren’t the center of the universe, a lot of controversies wouldn’t exist. At the end of the day, don’t like something, don’t buy. And also, realize when a series isn’t for you anymore. The people complaining aren’t the target audience and need to grow up.
If this video had came out like last July this would have got so many more views. I assume many people saw the title and video and assumed that this was made then and contained mothing that they didn't already know.
I probably wouldn't have made this kind of video back in July though. Really, the only this video exists is because despite the whole controversy, Pokemon Sword and Shield was still a standard Pokemon game. The whole secret discussion of the video isn't really the controversy, but more so why people still bought it, why the Pokedex didn't matter, and why Pokemon fans still had fun playing the game, which I really couldn't talk about unless I got my hands on the game and played it for myself.
In regard to Gen 3: The missing Pokemon may not have been *catchable,* but... *They were still PROGRAMMED INTO THE GAMES!!!* If they weren't available in those games' code, you couldn't trade the missing ones over *TO BEGIN WITH.* HMMM... What does SwSh *NOT HAVE* in its code!?!? Certainly not ALL of the missing mons! No, they want to sell that shit back to you and then some. Unrelated, but can we address that we essentially have to buy another save file for $60? No, the Switch-user trick doesn't count. 1) that's wasn't intentional 2) you need another Nintendo Online Account (with a different e-mail) to even access the online features again The higher-ups making these decisions can kiss a Magmar's forehead. *fuckin' talk to me about "misinformed."*
HyperCharge Mmkay. I watched the rest (like I should have) and you know what I found? That the *only* thing that we agreed on in my comment was the 'selling old Pokemon back with the DLC' part. You never mentioned the missing Pokemon still programmed in the older games and not for SwSh. Does it really change the *core* idea of your argument? No, it doesn't. Not when everything is already said and done, anyway. But it *does* change the perspective on the issue, if that makes sense to you. Given all of the lies and supposedly "futureproofed" models, it kind of paints a more insidious picture. There is no logic to it. They should have at least been *programmed in,* no excuses. I get it. In practice, it *seems* like it was the same thing since Gen 3, but there comes the problem: You *can't* transfer them now; the OPTION is now gone. Casuals never were going to care... so why not keep it in? Leaving it out only *upset* people AND/OR *didn't affect* other people. See the lack of a *positive* outcome? No logic to it. Why incite negativity to cater to the people who DON'T GIVE A FUCK EITHER WAY??? It doesn't make sense, but it doesn't matter anymore. They got our money. They won.
@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic No, I get what your saying, but you have to remember when Ruby and Sapphire were released, you couldn't trade ANYTHING OVER, so even if they were "hidden" in the code or not, it didn't matter! Of course, they fixed the problem retroactively with the later games, but when Ruby and Sapphire were the only games out, the missing Pokemon were ABSOLUTELY UNOBTAINABLE and you couldn't even trade over Pokemon in the Gen 3 Pokedex either! Sure, they were still technically in the code, but it effectively was the same situation as Gen 8 during the time. Of course, the later Gameboy Advance games fixed the issue, so people don't remember it being as bad as it was! Meanwhile, it's pretty clear that the models for Pokemon Sword and Shield are mostly missing, but like I said in the video, their adding new Pokemon thru the DLC and I can imagine they'll continue to add more once they keep remodeling all the Pokemon for the future games as well. So, in 5 years or so, when it's all said and done and every Pokemon is remodeled and patched in, will it really be different than Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire? There's technical differences with both games during the time, but the problems at launch were almost identical, (and debatably worse for Ruby and Sapphire, despite the Pokemon existing in the code, since you couldn't trade over ANYTHING). For me personally, I don't think Game Freak did this because their maliciously taking the Pokemon away. I think they are simply incompetent and messed up the process of bringing the 3DS models to the Switch. Yes, they did say they were future proofed, but clearly, that was before they realized they fucked up. Now, normally when you mess things up, you can just delay the game, but since Pokemon is such a massive operation with the stupid anime, trading cards, and plushies, they didn't have the option to. Honestly, I would put the blame more on the Pokemon Company than Game Freak at this point, but it's sort of both of their faults. Like I said in the video, I feel like the problem with Pokemon is much more complicated than this dumb controversy. The Pokemon Company's entire business model is almost designed to churn out mediocre games and now that Game Freak actually has to put in effort with these new console games, it's clearly taking a toll on the quality. Now, I do have faith that things will get better, but that's only if the Pokemon Company or Game Freak start to make some major changes with how they operate their business.
YES! ANOTHER HYPERCHARGE VIDEO! Dude, I love how when you imitate stinky Pokemon fans getting upset you first add in the noise of you shaking your chair to show how ridiculously intense they get. 13:25 I always love when you add in external noises to your narration audio, it fucking cracks me up.
I'd be intrigued to see you do a retrospective on ace attorney and their fanbase lol I know about the faults of Pokemon so I just deal with alpha sapphire and ultra moon lol maybe shield(planning on getting the dual pack if I do to give my nephew sword with the extra Pokemon lol)
Hi . There is an important point you missed: In pokemon ultra sun you could fight in the battle arena againts the rest of the roaster, the 800+ of them which made the end game a lot of fun since it had more contant ( you had to learn 800+ pokemon playstyles and counter them proper) For this reason only, I dislike the removal of the nation dexs
I wonder if Sam is gonna make a vid on Xenoblade since it’s now Ported to switch. Heck if he could make one about Astral Chain and have that be the funniest shit I’ve ever seen I wonder what he’s gonna say bout Xenoblade.
I think my problem with the series is the easy difficulty, mindless gameplay, and probably just getting older. I don't enjoy Pokemon anymore. When I play an RPG I want good and fun gameplay with some sort of challenge, or optional difficulty settings. I don't really care for the national Dex stuff, but the game is just not worth $60 or the time to play it.
I can agree to that in some sense. I feel if you lose inspiration to play as an adult then it is only natural. But some of us keep it although we have fully realized and come to acknowledge that the games are really "meh" compared to other RPGs. It's just the way it is. Now, with that said, I am among the few who fills the national dex. I already have. I completed it fully back in Gen 6. But to me, once you fill it, you're done. You don't have to necessarily ever do it again (at least in my opinion). Which is great because I can transfer the entire dex to the new games, at some point. Which is totally fine to me. Like I said, I understand these games and this entire franchise are solely meant for normies. And I think that's where the divide begins. People want these games to "go back to the way they were". But they never really WERE that way. They're just mainstream normie games for kids and families. And that is completely fine to me. There is still joy to be had in playing this franchise. To you last point I also somewhat agree. But that's only because I see no point in paying sixty dollars ever for a single game. I think that's ridiculously high, always have. I understand the devs gotta get paid but you and I both know in this industry those poor bastards actually making these games what they are aren't getting paid squat. It's all to the company heads. Which is a damn shame. Tl;Dr, I think this whole controversy is stupid. Pokemon isn't worth this much division.
You know? The competitive aspect of pokemon in last gens was extremely stagnant, pokemon like Landorus, Ultrabeasts and Megaevolutions kinda ruined the meta, the powercreep was out of control leading all the people use the same pokemon in their teams. Now, while the decision of remove half of the pokemon from the game was questionable, it was a blessing in desguise, the meta now feels very fresh and interesting, with a lot of variety of pokemon teams being viable, and a bunch of people getting interested in the competitive play.
I feel like they should’ve been more clear about it I only found out not all of them are gonna be in when the outrage started if no one got mad I would’ve never known they got rid of Pokémon until I start transferring
Yeah, if I remember correctly, it was only brought up once in one of those post-Nintendo direct developer streams or something. I can appreciate that they brought it up, but they really should've been more transparent with the whole thing. I don't really hate Game Freak, but it's hard to respect them either.
@@HyperCharge The lack transparency was also present with the release of Home. They had a Pokemon Direct that would have been perfect opportunity to talk about the service. Instead, they posted most of the information on the website a few weeks later without a set release date. People were already skeptical of the service and its potential to trap people's pokemon behind paywalls and then they pulled this nonsense.
If the Pokémon franchise is basically the same game over and over again? Why are people pissed off about the New Super Mario Bros. games and not the Pokémon games?
I mean, I feel like the hate is pretty equal in the sense that the silent majority still end up buying both of them anyways. I'm not a fan of the New Super Mario Bros either, but honestly, the games are pretty solid and a lot of people still enjoy them. Fans might be more or less vocal depending on the series, but their both sell really well because the games are pretty competent.
I'm one of those shiny living dex folks and I didn't give a fuuuuuuuck about this stupid controversy. Not only were you right on all of your points but on many of them you could go into way more depth to make the complaints seem even more hypocritical. Besides we all knew that almost certainly there's gonna be a game on the Switch which will have the full roster, it's not like the Pokemon I've caught are in purgatory forever or anything, I just gotta wait another year or two since they churn these games out quite frequently and reliably so. At the end of the day I know what I play Pokemon games for - for a sense of community and because playing a new Pokemon game is a creature comfort like slipping into a old pair of shoes that you've broken in. If people don't want to play them anymore then fine but don't lie and pretend that anything has really changed. Nothing has fundamentally changed unless you play competitively. Oh also since a bunch of comments are whining about it, just because a Pokemon can be traded into the game after you beat it doesn't mean that it's really playable. I mean sure, you can breed it, you can do whatever cutesy side activities with it, but you're never going to actually play the game with it. Unless you edit the game to change the Pokemon available during your main playthrough you'll never play through FireRed with a Torchic or a Heracross or a Gardevoir. You're not playing the game with your old Pokemon from previous adventures, you're enjoying a small of postgame content with them. It's like listing the Hyper Beam as a powerup in Super Metroid - technically you do get it but for what? Literally one final boss that is intended to become a pushover and an escape sequence. Would you honestly put the Hyper Beam alongside the Wave Beam and Ice Beam as a featured powerup if you can only access it for the last four minutes if the game?
Shield was the first pokemon game I ever completed the dex in BECAUSE they removed a bunch of pokemon. I felt like I could actually do it as a casual. Although I do wish they'd made the animations/graphics look better. Something like how the new Pokemon Snap looks like.
Personally, I never really cared about the dex cut, sure I was a bit sad that I couldn't have ALL my favorite mons, but I mean, I don't absolutely needed them to enjoy Sw/Sh. I do understand why some other people may be upset, but I personally don't care. I will say that at least GF is returning many of the missing pokemon in the dlc for free is nice, and I'm glad they are doing it and it will be free.
I didn’t grow up with Pokémon. I have three young children, nine and under who are into it. So I am very much a casual. I enjoy all of your videos, and the Digimon stuff had me almost crying. 😂
I think the only point you could have addressed was that gamefreak did make promises in exchange for the dex cut and then didnt actually follow through with those promises. Otherwise i would entirely agree. Im a casual player myself who doesnt buy more than 1 version however when gamefreak made promises they didnt intend to keep it pushed me over the metaphorical wall. When a company promises to make better models for their time instead of including every pokemon. It made sense for me and alot of other players. When that was no longer true the cut of pokemon didnt feel justified anymore. At the end of the day it almost doesnt matter because they were gonna pay wall them anyway but it would have been nice to push up my mysmegus ive had since ruby and saphire.
I always interpreted those "promises" as them kind of just making an excuse for messing up. I feel like whatever happened over at Game Freak was clearly not intended and even if they wanted to bring them all back, they probably couldn't during the time frame of the games release. I also do think Game Freaks terrible standards also doesn't help as well. Like, clearly you can point to certain battle animations or models, say their "better" than Sun and Moon, and Game Freak would have "technically" kept their promise. Still, despite what they may think, it definitely wasn't on the level that fans would expect with such a drastic change and I'm pretty sure Game Freak knew this, because it was most likely just an excuse they came up with during the Nintendo Direct livestream.
11:47 All the controversy is about not being able to move certain Pokémon to Sword and Shield, not the national dex, no one cares about that, they just want to have the non Galarian Pokémon in the game. Also the people want a new Pokémon game that has those Pokémon in them, and Gamefreak didn’t do anything about it
....watched many videos from your channel. I like the ranting haha....but man I can't get behind this video at all!!!! Just let me use the Pokemon I've had the joy of using in previous games, the company has plenty of money and resources to add missing Pokemon through updates. It's apparent, Game freak loves cash grabbing people. The DLC is a good idea but it would have been nice to just include all the mons via update at the VERY least.
Kind of unrelated, but what are your thoughts on Temtem, if you’ve tried it out? Edit: nvm LMAO Also, thanks for more content! Looking forward to more!
pokemon is quite literally the largest media franchise of all time. it's not crazy to expect more from nintendo and how they treat gamefreak, not giving them the necessary dev time.
This is an incredible video, perfectly addresses all the main points and your comment of "Pokemon was never a masterpiece franchise thats been slowly degrading in quality" could not be more true. Even saying Pokemon is McDonald's is giving it too much credit lol
I've been critical of the pokemon series since gen 3 and most of my issues have to do with the series not evolving much with each iteration. I honestly think there would have been no national dex controversy if game freak delivered a pokemon game that blew people away instead of a mediocre product.
I despise Galar as a whole. Not only because of the Nat dex but because they made the availability of rare trade or stone evos easier to acquire. I think the game plot was somewhat empty and missed the Pokémon charm from previous entries. I thought the art design of menu pages, the dex, battle text, dialogue blocks, the map, the geography, etc. were boring and not all that unique for a home-console entry. Although I think the designs of the new Pokémon designs are great, I think everything else was bland. With all this said, I still enjoyed myself playing it. I enjoyed Gmaxing/Dmaxing and battling. I love doing raids in the wild area and playing with friends. I love shiny hunting in this game as well. Anyway, I hope you're doing well. I miss your content.
This felt so satisfying to watch. This sums up my thoughts on this whole mess PERFECTLY A few of my friends were on the NatDex side of this "controversy" and it felt so irritating to see them comparing about stuff they wouldn't have complained about if this situation never happened. Seriously Sam, thank you!
The lack of a Nax. Dex is the least of the problems these game has anyways. People should be focused on the actual important stuff like the post game behind locked behind a paywall.
@@kazoorion7993 Sw/Sh already has a post-game though, as well as the post-game wild area and battle tower. This dlc is just MORE additional story and content then what we already have. Besides, this is replacing the inevitable sequels or third version they would do, which would have been even more expensive and have the same amount of content that they will add with the dlc, so it's nice they went the dlc route instead.
@@clerkinator1304 uh, how? X/y had literally NO post game at all aside from catching the third legendary. Sw/Sh actually had some post-game story, as well as the post-game wild area and battle tower which you can essentially do forever, meaning we actully have reasons to keep coming back to the game forever and ever aside from competitive. Yes, the actual post-game story may not have been extremely huge, but that doesn't automatically make it bad. Just because the post-game story wasn't the same size as HG/SS's, that doesn't automatically make it trash. While I will agree that it's not the BEST post-game we've ever got in a pokemon game before, it's certainly far from the worst. At the very least, it's better then x/y and sun/moon's post-game.
Personally I just get the odd, cool spin off game or whatever when it comes to Pokemon. I wish they'd lend the IP out to other devs for more in depth games. Good video, though. I remember hearing about the Pokedex stuff and thinking it was dumb but this gave me an actual new perspective on it, as opposed to just being "here's the problem blah blah blah."
@@bboyy97 At this point, I would wish Game Freak would just give away the Pokemon IP to a company that actually cares and knows how to make an RPG, like Atlus and Level 5.
@@kazoorion7993 is this real? You think that a game company would give away their cash cow because you personally don’t like something? I knew Pokémon fans were idiots and hypocrites who fell for even the most blatant cash grabs but wow. The fact that this is an unironic take.
I haven’t played a Pokémon game since Black 2 and then I got Shield to see how the series evolved and what new twists they might’ve added. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed. I guess it’s my fault for anticipating something grandiose for the for the first HD home console game.
I'm hoping they'll start turning things around for the next games, because if they don't start making drastic improvements with another home console entry, I can imagine a lot players checking out.
It's why I find the whole argument revolving around Game Freak's budget kind of funny. It's like, sure, they could spend a shit ton of money and put out a fantastic game, but as a business, why would they risk so much time and money when they don't have to!? I'm telling you, once Pokemon starts getting objectively terrible to the point where even casual fans stop caring, that's when we'll get the best Pokemon game ever made!
@@HyperCharge Isn't that kinda how the FFVII remake came to be? They kept going on about "not until we make a game that surpasses it." Then everyone just stopped caring about the franchise altogether (a lot of it thanks to FFXIII), and now the remake is afoot. I don't know. Maybe there's more to it that I'm unaware of. I'm one of the many that stopped caring. Edit: well, I read a few other comments down the line, and you've already mentioned this very thing to someone else, lol.
Agreed with a lot of stuff, but for the love of god I do not want Pokemon to go the giant empty sandbox route. There's already enough items to keep track of, I don't need an entire pokedex just to raw materials. Pokemon is a turn based rpg with such a loose structure in terms of what your party can be that I can't see it as even possible to give people the kind of non-linearity that made people cream themselves in BOTW.
I'm pretty sure HyperCharge wasn't talking about that. I don't think most people want a resource-based minecraft-esque sandbox for Pokemon. But they do want a breathtaking open world to explore.
I think I mostly relate to his point that some of us were expecting a departure from the similar gameplay structure that Pokémon had because it was going to be on a main console, and I understand why it was unrealistic to think that way after watching their video, hence why i was (personally) disappointed on the games before the controversy even happened, what happens with pokemon is that each saved file is different because, unlike other rpgs, you choose your own team and you customize your pokemon your own way, so every playthrought is more unique than your usual rpg (you could call that the "pokemon experience" which is the "catching, leveling and exploring the region) and new games only give a new coat of paint (region, art style, new features and new options to live that same core experience like new pokemon, new moves or slight changes to the battle mechanics). With the years game freak has tried to perfect and polish that experience while also giving it a new coat of paint every time so players dont get bored of each game (i also have to say that, personally, i think that they have been improving and polishing the "coat of paint" part too by designing new regions and pokemon in a more cohesive way to make a more complete pack, basing regions on real life places other than japan and studying the culture and geography of each place to make seem each setting more unique (which is something i personally think the first 4 regions lack (maybe not jhotto))), by having a game which makes every save file unique and every journey personal (as i explained before) and also changing the outside shell every generation its no wonders it has worked to not change the formula that much. I think that is true for sword and shield that the qualify as a very polished pokemon experience and a very distinc coat of paint (thought pokemon games have been lacking in objective content (things to do in the aftergame mostly) since x and y), but my point is that if the similar "pokemon experience" is present in all games (sword and shield is more polished but its mostly the same shit on every game on the core, its just more streamlined in sword and shield as you said) then the only reason to buy newer games is for the coat of paint part without really innovating on the core experience of the game the new region, new pokemon, and new features gets old over time and doesent fix the core problems of that pretty good, but not perfect experience (i mean they just removed tms on gen 7). Thats why i personally want on gamfreak to start innovating so they make something that feels like that core experience but also being freash and adressing the problems that are starting to get stale on pokemon (i could mention them but this comment is already too long but im sure everyone has something in mind from the games not taking advantage of the uniqness of each game by being p much linear aside from the pokemon u choose, to recycling the same story structure, to not really encouraging players to use the dephts of the battling system (i mean you can beat most games with just thinking about the pokemon weakneses but the battles are way more than that), etc), and one good thing that has come with this is that more people are being vocal with at least this. I really dont care if sword and shield had all pokemon programeed or just the ones who passed because it was going to be the same pokemon game either way which old fans have had plenty for the last 20+ years and new fans have A LOT to experience.
I've been having trouble actually tracking down the true number of Pokemon available in Gen 4 purely cause the Sinnoh Regional Dex just doesn't include everything for some reason, including some of the new Gen 4 Pokemon as well. There's also that whole thing where Pokemon are included into the game via Dual Slot mode, which only makes it more complicated because you CAN technically catch me in-game, but only by purchasing another Pokemon GBA game and putting it in your GBA port while playing your DS, which for me doesn't REALLY count. I've been using this list on bulbapedia for tracking the Pokemon availability, but it's kind of a complete clusterfuck. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_availability
Some factual errors in this video. Many mythics like Celebi can be gotten by the player at any time. You can get Pokemon Crystal and Celebi can be caught at the end of the game in that version, and then transported to Pokemon Bank and then into Pokemon Home. Gen 4 and Gen 5 actually have ways to get all of the mystery gifts. The only Mythic Pokemon that are really hard to get are in Gen 6 onwards. Hoopa, Diance, Marshadow, and many others are just impossible to get now. But most mythics from before then can all be caught in 2022 by changing the internet settings on your 3DS or tunneling through your phone, or by playing more modern games that re-released them, like in ORAS or whatever. I personally like the customized, limited dex. It gives each Region its own feel and forces you to make different teams with each game. This is a good change. Playing with the same Pokemon over and over would get pretty boring. There's also another error in the video. The 3DS was powerful enough to create an open world Pokemon game. Xenoblade Chronicles actually runs on the 3DS, and if that game can run on the 3DS, an Open World Pokemon could have been created for that system too. A large part of the video builds on this error as if it's fact, but it actually makes everything you said related to this wrong. Yokai Watch 1-3 are also listed as Open World games on the 3DS as well, and I find it kind of humourous as this is basically Level-5's version of Pokemon yet it went open-world on the 3DS in all 3 entries.
Well, considering how Square Enix doesn't go declining the Dragon Quest series (and lying in the worst cases), I am not surprized the Dragon Quest fandom is happy.
