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The Nature of Human Nature: A Conversation with Robert Plomin (Episode  

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In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Robert Plomin about the role that DNA plays in determining who we are.
They discuss:
-the birth of behavioral genetics
-the taboo around studying the influence of genes on human psychology
-controversies surrounding the topic of group differences
-the first law of behavior genetics
-heritability
-nature and nurture
-the mystery of non-shared environment
-the way genes help determine a person's environment
-epigenetics
-the genetics of complex traits
-dimensions vs disorders
-the prospect of a GATTACA-like dystopia and genetic castes
-heritability and equality of opportunity
-the implications of genetics for parenting and education
-DNA as a fortune-telling device
-and other topics
Robert Plomin is MRC Research Professor in Behavioural Genetics at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience, King’s College London and has previously taught at the University of Colorado Boulder and at Pennsylvania State University. He has received lifetime research achievement awards from the major associations related to his field (Behavior Genetics Association, Association of Psychological Science, Society for Research in Child Development, International Society for Intelligence Research), as well as being made Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, British Academy, American Academy of Political and Social Science, and Academy of Medical Sciences (UK).
Robert’s latest book, “Blueprint: How DNA Makes Us Who We Are,” makes the case that DNA inherited from our parents at the moment of conception can predict our psychological strengths and weaknesses.
Website: www.kcl.ac.uk/people/robert-p...
Released: July 17, 2020
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@BrunoLuke
@BrunoLuke 11 месяцев назад
I admire the financial independence of people, But you can live better if you work a little more. After watching this I think there are people out there, on the extreme, who plan to die early just to be able to retire early. To each their own but to me, retirement isn't just about not having to work, it's about having the freedom to do whatever you might reasonably want, such as travel, buying things, enjoying life, etc. I don't think I could retire with less than $3m in income-generating investments, maybe $2m at the very minimum. I plan to work until I'm at least 45
@MarcusFred-wn3iv
@MarcusFred-wn3iv 11 месяцев назад
Nobody knows anything, you need to create your own process, manage risk and stick to the plan, through thick or thin while also continuously learning from mistakes and improving
@BrunoLuke
@BrunoLuke 11 месяцев назад
@@MarcusFred-wn3iv Having an investment adviser is the best way to go about the market right now, especially for near-retirees, I've been in touch with a coach for a while now mostly cause I lack the depth knowledge and mental fortitude to deal with these recurring market conditions, I netted over $220K during this dip, that made it clear there's more to the market that we avg joes don't know
@MarcusFred-wn3iv
@MarcusFred-wn3iv 11 месяцев назад
@@BrunoLuke Who’s the person guiding you
@BrunoLuke
@BrunoLuke 11 месяцев назад
@@MarcusFred-wn3iv credits to *MARTHA ALONSO HARA*, one of the best portfolio managers out there. she's well known, you should look her up
@MarcusFred-wn3iv
@MarcusFred-wn3iv 11 месяцев назад
@@BrunoLuke Thank you, I just checked her out and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
@johnmartin4233
@johnmartin4233 3 года назад
Me and my twin brother took part in some of Plomin’s intelligence studies since we were young. Happy to have informed his research.
@NoOne-me3je
@NoOne-me3je 3 года назад
@Joe lol
@brianfinnegan664
@brianfinnegan664 3 года назад
Yes we heard your brother is way smarter
@lovely-shrubbery8578
@lovely-shrubbery8578 3 года назад
@Joe eh that's a dumb grammar rule anyway
@alexplorer
@alexplorer 3 года назад
@Joe There's an exemption for twins. In fact, in many cases the speaker is allowed to say "My twin brother and/or I..."
@chinabill379
@chinabill379 3 года назад
Hey man good to see you here
@mikkel8861
@mikkel8861 3 года назад
This is one of the best ones you've had in quite a while. Thanks for the content Sam!
@nathanwood5977
@nathanwood5977 3 года назад
Yes, I'm reading the blank slate at the moment so it was very interesting.
@TheRealCabe
@TheRealCabe 3 года назад
This was one of the best podcasts to date, which is saying a lot. Amazing work, thank you.
@angramainyu335
@angramainyu335 3 года назад
PLEASE bring back the download key so I can download and listen later, it's really inconvenient for us in Iran and I suppose other countries that don't have good access and stable internet.
@stiannobelisto573
@stiannobelisto573 3 года назад
I'm in Europe with internet but download when I can like you, try vanced downloader
@dopeeastbeats6350
@dopeeastbeats6350 3 года назад
go to share link and copy the link than you can search "youtube to mp3 converter" and enter the link too download doesn't work with every mp3 converter tho because the video is long.
@---Free-Comics---IG---Playtard
@---Free-Comics---IG---Playtard 3 года назад
Just email them and ask for a subscription. The website displays a list of compatible Podcatchers - I use the default Apple one.
@scratchfg212
@scratchfg212 3 года назад
It’s a podcast dude. Go to the podcast app
@dupersdelite
@dupersdelite 3 года назад
try savethevideo.c0ΩΩ for yt links, watch out for the pop-ups
@Mr2twenty2
@Mr2twenty2 3 года назад
Partial episodes are actually perfect size episodes of Ham Sarris content. I'm usually asleep before housekeeping is through, for that I thank you.
@IzabelParis
@IzabelParis 3 года назад
Agreed
@johnbrown4568
@johnbrown4568 3 года назад
There can be no doubt regarding the love and commitment that Sam Harris has to both freedom of intellectual investigation and the maintenance of social courage.
@Viriyascybin
@Viriyascybin 3 года назад
Hey Sam, it would be awesome to see Ham Sarris on the podcast!
@tonycatman
@tonycatman 3 года назад
Already done : Episode 134.
@DerekMoore82
@DerekMoore82 3 года назад
@@tonycatman Nah, that episode was actually Sam Harris in conversation with Holeman Cughes!
@tonycatman
@tonycatman 3 года назад
@@DerekMoore82 Sorry - you are right :) Many of the comments under the video spoke of this "Ham Sarris" chap. Partly because it was tricky to work out who was actually speaking. All four of them (Ham, Sam, Holeman and Coleman) have very similar styles of delivery.
@tacob0
@tacob0 3 года назад
Yea i dont think Ben Stiller does many movies these days. Surely he can make some time.
@erowan1389
@erowan1389 Год назад
Fascinating! Sam's podcast is one of my faves. So many remarkable discussions. I have learned so much!
@bkendrick52
@bkendrick52 3 года назад
As I subsciber to, and listener of, Sam's podcasts, I found this one to be one of the most interesting. The implications of the discoveries being made related to genetics are staggering and are changing the way we view who we are and why we do what we do. This is really exciting stuff. And if you like the podcast, you shoud ready Robert Plomin's "Blueprint", as it goes into great detail about the herditability of psycological traits based on long term studies.
@cameronidk2
@cameronidk2 3 года назад
It's podcast like these that i will never lose faith in keeping Sam Harris in my Rolodex...
@2Oldcoots
@2Oldcoots Год назад
Mr. Harris: Invaluable information sir!!! Thank you so so much for these insights about how human beings can reach various tipping points. Beautifully done.
@frowy1
@frowy1 3 года назад
"i haven't been called a nazi for years... " life goals :) Thank you guys
@ZombieProdigyUS
@ZombieProdigyUS 3 года назад
*OMG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE LIKE SAM TO DO A PODCAST WITH HIM!!!*
@toby9999
@toby9999 3 года назад
My brother in law was adopted into a family and he didn't take on the attributes of his adoptive parents or siblings. He was the odd one out in pretty much every way. My aunties were adopted into our family at a very young age (by my grandparents). They are indentical twins who grew up together but then lived appart for the subsequent 60 years, yet they are more similar to each other even now than they are to the rest of us.
@ReasonableForseeability
@ReasonableForseeability 3 года назад
Vert nice stories from the POV of human interest 🤍. As long as they're not being proffered as anectotal evidence.
@marlonbrimmer
@marlonbrimmer 3 года назад
You've figured it all out through personal experience 👏
@Ikilledthebanks
@Ikilledthebanks 3 года назад
It’s a comment section, he shared personal experience and you guys have to add your petty 2 cents.
@Jake007123
@Jake007123 3 года назад
@thomas anderson I think the idea that the parents shaping kids is better comes from the possibility of educating people to raise children in a better way. Either way, truth is truth and it doesn't care about our preferences.
@beemo9
@beemo9 2 года назад
Being separated from a biological mom can influence how newborns turn out, as can any bad parenting traits that may have led to the separation.
@Mr.Bear.
@Mr.Bear. 3 года назад
You should run for President Sir. The way you argue and handle facts is outstanding and rare. Every time I hear you speak, whether it is on artificial intelligence, religion, science, economics, psychology, racism, inequality, or police brutality, it always strikes me how masterly and skillfully you work your way through a subject, reaching conclusions that are either true, brilliant, or thought provoking. And always done in a comfortable calm demeanor that never ceases to convince me. It’s almost like brainwashing... but in the BEST of ways! Please take such brilliance and intellect to the White House. It’s truly needed! I beg you Sir. The Country needs sanity. @Sam Harris...The world needs it. A plea from a Danish citizen.
@elizabethk3238
@elizabethk3238 11 месяцев назад
You're forgetting that the majority do not have or practice the intellectual capacity when they vote.
@user-zu6kj8fv2w
@user-zu6kj8fv2w 3 года назад
I'm imagining John Malkovich and Ben Stiller having this conversation.
@mnforager
@mnforager 3 года назад
Oh wow this is spot on. Super enjoyable for my ears
@mikeyteee95
@mikeyteee95 3 года назад
If this guy is bald then I imagine that's what it actually looks like lol
@spilledinfinity8652
@spilledinfinity8652 3 года назад
or Larry David's lawyer.
@jasonbinedell3509
@jasonbinedell3509 3 года назад
THANKS FOR NOTHING! Now I can't hear anything else 🤣🤣🤣
@shaunlindfield7247
@shaunlindfield7247 3 года назад
@@jasonbinedell3509 me too
@mygirl737g2
@mygirl737g2 3 года назад
Just went back and listened to #73 and bought the Bell Curve - fascinating!
@michaelshannon9169
@michaelshannon9169 3 года назад
Damn, seeing a woman post something like this, I would literally marry you based on this comment and grainy photo of you. Sigh....
@harpsmith8570
@harpsmith8570 3 года назад
Michael is a simp
@paularizer
@paularizer 3 года назад
the science stars at 25:46
@woody7652
@woody7652 3 года назад
It's in my nature to say thank you.
@drea409
@drea409 3 года назад
It's more likely in your genes :P
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 года назад
I on the other hand was trained to.
@chrisgonzalez4879
@chrisgonzalez4879 3 года назад
Hey Sam, I’m a data scientist and I was curious if there are any publicly available datasets that I’d be able to analyze to investigate the nature versus nurture effect. I suppose that’s a really open ended question given that there are thousands of variables and even more measurable outcomes (physical traits, behavioral, health outcomes, socio economic, etc). If there isn’t a ton of data available, what strategies do you think policy makers might be able to implement to collect more data?
@timothyjackson6465
@timothyjackson6465 3 года назад
Love the image you used for this one
@makemoneynow5061
@makemoneynow5061 3 года назад
This video is worth watching! More of this, please!
@chrisd6736
@chrisd6736 3 года назад
Who ever knew John Malkovic knew so much about genetic heritability. 🤓
@ReasonableForseeability
@ReasonableForseeability 3 года назад
Amazing. He even changed his name!
@tedd5361
@tedd5361 3 года назад
Expected 10000 likes when I saw this. Very underrated comment lol
@kristopherjon6496
@kristopherjon6496 3 года назад
I can't un-hear it now.
@andromedaiscoming185
@andromedaiscoming185 3 года назад
That awful dad joke was due to your genetic makeup and I don't blame you for that.
@katapinesxc6477
@katapinesxc6477 3 года назад
That's all I picture now thanks XD
@xsuploader
@xsuploader 3 года назад
one of the best podcasts ive ever listened to period. Just perfect.
@sagaottosson9083
@sagaottosson9083 3 года назад
You can argue with DNA. * Contamination is always a risk. *Most of our genes are not mapped yet. *Likely there is a combination of genes that are involved with specific physical and psychological traits. *Your/your caregivers choice of environment and behavior likely affect the onset, the offset and the expression of certain genes. Thank you for discussing this important interesting topic! I appreciate you sharing your results and reflections with us!
@dawnferguson3542
@dawnferguson3542 3 года назад
Hi just watching a video. thought it was great thank you Sam
@eyecontact13
@eyecontact13 3 года назад
My favorite portion is the housekeeping segment
@rs5352
@rs5352 3 года назад
Plomin’s “Blueprint” not to be confused with Nicholas A. Christakis’s “Blueprint.” Both books came out around the same time, but have different conclusions. Christakis argues that DNA is only part of the story of what causes our human nature. I tend to agree with Christakis, but Plonin’s book is a must-read! He does an excellent job of describing how he sees it, and I think you need that before going into Christakis’s book. Highly recommend both Blueprints!!
@TwiztedDezign
@TwiztedDezign 3 года назад
I love this podcast.
@donningarmour2873
@donningarmour2873 3 года назад
Speak with Jared Taylor.
@emarskineel
@emarskineel 3 года назад
Would be an incredible conversation, but there's no way that would happen
@brianfinnegan664
@brianfinnegan664 3 года назад
Sam won't do it, there's no way
@williamschlass4598
@williamschlass4598 3 года назад
The moron who endorsed biden?
@florentineensensberger5672
@florentineensensberger5672 3 года назад
Sam, I am huge fan! Having done a psychoanalysis (and changed) I strongly recommend that you talk to a psychoanalyst on these topics. I am sure, if I had a twin that has grown up in Oklahoma City (I am German) she would be similar in body weight, intelligence, her capacity to play the piano (=none), maybe even have the same temper as I have. But I really don't see how she could be haunted by the same demons if she has never met mine..... it would be interesting to see what kind of questions are being asked to twins in the studies you discuss, how much time is spent with them. I am sure that any scientist/psychologist who spends hours, even days or weeks with me does not understand who I am, how I stand in the world (is this English?), how I feel, how I dream, what I wish! And this is what makes me me. Not my BMI.
@highneedforcognition9660
@highneedforcognition9660 3 года назад
16:22 if sex differences account for 1% of the individual variance in normally distributed traits, you still have decent odds of guessing whether a prodigy in a given area is a male or female. This is true even if you don't know much about a given individual based on on sex, because the tail of the distribution will be much less diverse with even a slight offset at the means. If you don't get it, don't worry; Larry Summers may have had to resign from Harvard precisely because this is so hard even for ivy leaguers to understand, despite the dramatic over-representation of men in prison for violent crimes. "Genetic extremes of single-gene mutations" may further compound or erase this effect (depending on prevalence in the population).
@ctlajoie
@ctlajoie 3 года назад
Makes perfect sense to me as you explained it.
@_sky_3123
@_sky_3123 3 года назад
I know this is not the best metaphor for an explanation, but I try to convey it to people like this: There is a 1% difference in human and chimp genes. But look at the difference.
@TheWolverine1984
@TheWolverine1984 3 года назад
This is exactly the example Jordan Peterson uses. He says that men are about 10% more aggressive than women. So if you pick a random man and a random woman from the population. If you guess that the man is more aggressive than the woman you'll be right 6 out of 10 times. Which is not very significant. But if you go the extremes. And pick one person randomly from the top 10 most aggressive people in the population and try to guess their gender. If you guess they're male, you'll be right 9 out of 10 times.
@Nia-zq5jl
@Nia-zq5jl 3 года назад
_Sky_ Thats also true but its something completely different
@_sky_3123
@_sky_3123 3 года назад
@@Nia-zq5jl True, true. But I found that easily conveys the idea that 1% of difference can be a fricking lot.
@margaretwinson402
@margaretwinson402 3 года назад
Keep going, Sam! Ignore the bad-faith actors.
@madeleinerodriguez7399
@madeleinerodriguez7399 2 года назад
I would love to make the subtitles in Spanish for your podcasts, there is a lot of good information that Spanish talkers in third world countries such as mine aren't able to get due to the language barrier.
@TheWolverine1984
@TheWolverine1984 3 года назад
25:46 "What is the first law of behavior genetics" In the mainstream media, the first law of behavior genetics is that you don't talk about behavior genetics.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 3 года назад
Ha! Amazing. 😄😝
@mudcoff
@mudcoff 3 года назад
25:39 cut the woke tax here 28:12 70% of variance in body weight 30:39 Alcoholism ~40% 32:43 6*10^9 base pairs, 99% same 50:05 cut ur shrink off
@liajimthree
@liajimthree 3 года назад
Thanks, incredible that Sam have to spend so much time apologizing for a conversation that they have not yet had.
@leonardniamh
@leonardniamh Год назад
It's nice to feel the guys compassion
@awakened-planet
@awakened-planet 3 года назад
I love how Ben just kind of rambles aimlessly for 20 seconds at the end of every segment.
@occasionalskeptic
@occasionalskeptic 3 года назад
This was an interesting conversation as always. What struck me was the contrast to the arguments being made by Daniel Markovits in the “Meritocracy” episode. Markovits’ argument seemed to imply that there are significant differences in outcomes that come from being born into an upper class family. The rich can afford to send their children to elite schools, hire coaches, etc; and that this confers significant advantages to these children. The message of this episode appears to be just the opposite. I wonder if there is any way to reconcile these two points of view?
@ZombieProdigyUS
@ZombieProdigyUS 3 года назад
I love Plomin, if you ever can, have him on again! :) (I'm a huge Plomin fan)
@natura808
@natura808 3 года назад
Is there an option in RU-vid settings to hide all comments that mentions “Ben Stiller” and “John Malkovic”???
@mikhailfranco
@mikhailfranco 3 года назад
The people who know the answer cannot see your question.
@natura808
@natura808 3 года назад
@@mikhailfranco I've had such a suspicion...
@masquecenamarada945
@masquecenamarada945 3 года назад
both my father and grandfather were great at drawing, and my 2 brothers got taught to draw at a young age, while I didn't and only started when I was older, and all of us have probably the almost exact same talent to drawing
@TS-00
@TS-00 3 года назад
Interesting to assess consersation from multiple contexts, environments, communities and individuals' inter-connected perspectives 👁️☯️👁️
@RocketVet
@RocketVet 2 года назад
Awesome discussion.
@cf6713
@cf6713 3 года назад
Is this not on apple podcast?
@derekketcher9154
@derekketcher9154 3 года назад
Would it be better for group differences to be genetic or environmental? I think either way we will find it hard to swallow the facts and move society and our species forward.
@betimameti9265
@betimameti9265 2 года назад
Im so happy to listen to your podcast Sam, and also im so happy when i read the chat because it makes me realize that smart people still exist in the cacophony we living right now. It gives me hopes that in the end we will win the ultimate battle, which is common sense vs. ignorance! Wish all of you a lot of health
@stonepaintertim
@stonepaintertim 3 года назад
being from a large family, what he says around 40' about non shared environment--enlightening
@bennguyen1313
@bennguyen1313 3 года назад
Would love to see a friendly debate between Robert Plomin and Robert Sapolsky. Sapolsky suggests attributes thought to be genetic in origin, are often environmental when looked at more closely. I recommend the Innovation Hub episode "Tapping into Twins Studies". And what percentage of health and longevity does Robert Plomin attribute to genetics / environmental? For example, on the Live Long and Master Aging podcast, Luigi Fontana suggests data from identical twins is that it's 25% / 75%... but maybe as high 40% / 60% . Luigi also disagrees with the increasingly common view that aging "diseases" are a result of wear-and-tear, accumulation of normal metabolism, and instead seems more on the Michael Rose camp that suggests it's all highly regulated.
@juanquiros2932
@juanquiros2932 3 года назад
Hi, Ive been meditating for quite some time now, and everytime i do it While being high (marihuana) i can connect to the experience more easily, in fact it feels like its the only way worth doing. My question is it seems to me that meditation is a tool for living in a reality in which everything seems more new and strong, dont know how else to describe, and From that place and only that place you can become enlightned. It would be extremely helpful if you could answer this for me, Thank you
@pumpkini586
@pumpkini586 3 года назад
You are already enlightened...you just believe the thought “I am not enlightened”. Ignore thinking for a moment...enter presence...there ya go, that’s Heaven/enlightenment. You don’t need weed or meditation to get there, because you’re already there always.
@juanquiros2932
@juanquiros2932 3 года назад
Cooper Roberts i just had a small hit of marihuana and im able with a bit of concentration to see the ego, the self, my personality really just as the illusion it is, just for a Few moments anyways, ive read that is called the dzogchen method, in which you arrive everytime you meditate to that understanding, if only for a moment, but why the fuck does it come clear to me only with a hit of marihuana and in a normal state is so hard? Sorry for my swearing and if my English is not ok I’m from Argentina. Anyways it’s not a matter of believing to be enlightned or not, at least for me, I know when I think that I’m not enlightned it’s just the ego thinking that and I should go back to presence, experience, but that doesn’t lead me to the understanding, or the experience of having no self. Anyways I know I’m not yet a good meditator, actually I’m pretty bad it’s really hard for me to focus, but I’m gonna keep meditating intensely until I get there, my concern or my hope actually is if anyone has any idea on how I could get to that understanding without the weed?
@jesseklein6392
@jesseklein6392 3 года назад
duuuuuuude. i'm getting so enlightened
@jayantiraphael8655
@jayantiraphael8655 3 года назад
This is a good one!
@marklopez1870
@marklopez1870 3 года назад
When did you switch back to the old music intro?
@Viriyascybin
@Viriyascybin 3 года назад
About 1 year before the nuclear annihilation of 2021.
@chrisrus1965
@chrisrus1965 3 года назад
Where did it come from? I mean, who produced it, and how did it become the music for this?
@alexplorer
@alexplorer 3 года назад
Yeah, I love this one. It's like Brian Eno and Hans Zimmer scored the aftermath of an alien invasion. The guitar piece sounded like an automated bathroom air freshener smells.
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 3 года назад
When he realized it's more fitting for the world we live in today.
@orwellhuxley6301
@orwellhuxley6301 3 года назад
What a terrific, thoughtfully interesting and provoking discussion!
@vigilantejesus9010
@vigilantejesus9010 3 года назад
Plomins' book became one of Jared Taylor's favourites as soon as it was published. He claimed it vindicated everything he was saying for decades. Any chance you can have Taylor on your podcast to refute his claims? That would be a most fruitful discussion and would send ratings through the roof.
@_sky_3123
@_sky_3123 3 года назад
He will not, mostly because of Taylor's reputation. But I do feel sorry for the guy. He doesn't seem to hate anyone, just trying to explain human nature to humans.
@PlayNiceFolks
@PlayNiceFolks 3 года назад
Isn't that the guy who uses Haiti as an example for his racist position?
@_sky_3123
@_sky_3123 3 года назад
@@PlayNiceFolks calling him racist is what people usually do, instead of debating him.
@BlahBlahPoop617
@BlahBlahPoop617 3 года назад
There is a RU-vid “Sean last” who goes over much of this information in-depth as well. Worth looking into his videos.
@howardbent5437
@howardbent5437 3 года назад
Exquisite upload, Samantha
@sindrapeterssonarskold4386
@sindrapeterssonarskold4386 3 года назад
Great talk, thank you both! I’d like to point out that epigenetics, the chemical reactions that change how dna is expressed in the cells, is turning out t9 be hereditary, more so than we thought and over many, many generations. This actually strengthens the case for hereditary cause of behavioral effects, not the opposite. When you look at dna and compare to behavioral outcome, you get a certain correlation. If there is as additional hereditary effect in the form of epigenetics, that actually means that you have understated the correlation by only looking at dna. That should not be the case in twin and adoption studies, where the entire hereditary package automatically is included.
@harpsmith8570
@harpsmith8570 3 года назад
Adoption studies seem flawed when it comes to prenatal environments and socioeconomic bias which is inherent within the studies, due to the nature of adoption selection.
@adwe9912
@adwe9912 3 года назад
Amazing how much we can gain as a species when we are unbiased
@crypto2frens
@crypto2frens 3 года назад
Nice hat
@willowtreephoto
@willowtreephoto 3 года назад
Did you enjoy that add free experience? Did you hear the part about how 100% of requests for a free account will be granted?
@Miguel-dy3us
@Miguel-dy3us 3 года назад
N O B O D Y is unbiased
@alessandrolesa567
@alessandrolesa567 Год назад
Sam, you''ve been quite an inspiration for me for a very long time: I hope you'll correct your simplistic (feel free to read as: obvioulsly WRONG) sentence at 9:30 so that we can keep it that way.
@darlingtonboobam4107
@darlingtonboobam4107 3 года назад
Yay yay yay .....i love the time space conciousness....
@RobotModel406
@RobotModel406 3 года назад
Easily the most intellectually spirited conversation between Kermit the Frog and John Malkovich I’ve ever had the pleasure of listening to. Great episode though, in all seriousness. You definitely need to have him on again!
@ReasonableForseeability
@ReasonableForseeability 3 года назад
Sam wasn't having him on he was completely straight. The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms: 2. have someone on; put someone on. Deceive or fool someone, as in There was no answer when I called; someone must be having me on, or You can't mean you're taking up ballet-you're putting me on! [Colloquial; mid-1800s]
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 3 года назад
This episode brought to you by the word "punchline."
@100ballster
@100ballster 3 года назад
Did he explain the TDS phenomenon? Haven't found the chance to listen yet...
@maryknutson9148
@maryknutson9148 3 года назад
Do a pod cast with Todd Grande!! On the 5 factor model on psychopathy. PlEASe!!!!
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 2 года назад
I would love to see a conversation between Plomin and Sapolsky!
@jamespaternoster7354
@jamespaternoster7354 Год назад
I’d love the three to give a talk of their science and insights in terms of making society more informed and educated around these issues. Especially around social issues, health policy, justice reform, education and general human wellbeing.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 Год назад
@@jamespaternoster7354 Well, they would disagree. Plomin puts too much stock in the magnitude of how much genes play a role. Sapolsky does the complete opposite.
@jamespaternoster7354
@jamespaternoster7354 Год назад
@@timeisup3094 I did wonder as much, it’s not impossible that in time they could learn from each other. There core message in terms of nature bests nurture is something they both understand and educate about as well.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 Год назад
@@jamespaternoster7354 No? Nature and nurture are not in competition. They work together. Plomin insists on inflating the magnitude of genes.
@jamespaternoster7354
@jamespaternoster7354 Год назад
@@timeisup3094 I never said it was a competition just just nature is a bigger modifier for how we are as individuals than nurture that doesn’t mean that nurture has not input. The issue is is the all ways nurture expresses itself in any given situation is determined by the preceding mix of nature and nurture. For example a mother is stressed and this impacts the child but her greater than typical stress is caused by epigenetics linked back to her grandparents being tortured in a national conflict scenario. This was then caused in primary terms by an environmental causal factor (nature) then interacting with the grandparents neurobiological processes (nature) to then impact there parenting skills, social norms, manner and other such factors as a person (nurture) there is obviously an interplay of both at every moment but there are so many more variables that are non internal nature aka environmental determinism which include smell, culture, religion, language, norms, taste, diet, technology, age, status, illnesses the list is literally endless all interacting with each individual’s neurobiological makeup. He may die to his own bias have a heater focus on the role of genes but they definitely due based on his work and many others evidently have a massive impact on human behaviour and personality etc
@ahmadalatrch
@ahmadalatrch 3 года назад
Hello Mr. Sam, I'm Ahmad from Lebanon..why don't you add a translation for your videos?
@taylorroth2258
@taylorroth2258 3 года назад
I'm not sure social justice is mainly responsible for the pushback on genetic research. I think WW2 era genetic research has done the most damage.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 3 года назад
Little a, little b.
@taylorroth2258
@taylorroth2258 3 года назад
@@softan Yes, people forget about Japan (unit 231) I think. But it goes back to WW1 even, eugenics. Teddy Roosevelt loved that stuff. We just have to pay close attention to our tribal nature. In-Group and Out-Group thinking.
@williamschlass4598
@williamschlass4598 3 года назад
Its social justice
@searchingsecrets8399
@searchingsecrets8399 3 года назад
Hey Sam, In deep meditation does breath stops and you actually feel like dying?
@Max-nm2qc
@Max-nm2qc 3 года назад
What a way to start a day :)
@Isaacr90
@Isaacr90 3 года назад
When will Sam add video?
@johnwhorfin3815
@johnwhorfin3815 3 года назад
Did we cover the impact of social processing of physical traits - e.g. popularity & charisma related to height?
@fififinance7469
@fififinance7469 3 года назад
Who's starting YT from zero?! All of us! Best wishes everyone! Keep learning and keep grinding😀🤣
@TWRehab
@TWRehab 3 года назад
Something ive wondered is we often talk of a mass of complex genes interacting with one another to influence complex traits, but most of our genetic code is concerned with the organism we are before higher level function emerges. And a lot of our DNA is 'junk' leftover from evolution. Surely if we could isolate those genes present in the formation of the large, late mammalian brain then we have a smaller set to examine for high level disorders and indicators? You wouldn't look at our shared plant DNA for answers on psychosis for example but it might be there in our chimp genetics.
@patrickwilson1804
@patrickwilson1804 3 года назад
Heads up he says all the controversial things in the second hour. No! This is not a cynical ploy to get Sam to upload the entire podcast.
@waylayin6159
@waylayin6159 3 года назад
The nature of science and the science of nature
@GreenOilBike
@GreenOilBike 3 года назад
That was a little boring, but thanks for making it. It would have been great to have more to the point things like: - What character traits might be genetic? - What are the phenotypic differences between people of different countries if any? (e.g. to African people really have denser stronger bones?) - Are Asian people genetically actually better at maths? This was touched on only. - Should people of different regional phenotype have different diets to complement their genes? David Lammy (a UK politician) talked about Vitamin D or A being great for people of similar Afro-Caribean descent, even necessary and called for this to be recommended by the NHS. More on this would be fascinating. These are the taboo things people really really want to learn about. A few jokes and humour would have been nice too. And your voices - make them go up and down a bit more with some enthusiasm - a good speaking course would help you both a lot. All the best, Simon
@DKFX1
@DKFX1 3 года назад
What better way to suppress the evolution of the human species, than by disallowing them from discussing their own genetics.
@nGUNNARp
@nGUNNARp 3 года назад
This guys answer about why he doesn't think about average differences between groups was way more satisfactory than I was expecting.
@gabrielahimsa4387
@gabrielahimsa4387 3 года назад
wow thx for free request
@missshroom5512
@missshroom5512 3 года назад
The into music is so daunting
@ronbrideau8902
@ronbrideau8902 3 года назад
Slowing recall might prolong sillier thoughts for a bit.
@trollop_7
@trollop_7 3 года назад
Am I hearing this right? (22:05) - _"It's only because I have taken elaborate pains to _*_inure_*_ myself to the blowback to these kinds of conversations that I even can have them. Honestly, in any other role in society - had I been a professor at a university; had I been a normal journalist who had a boss - I think I would have lost my job based on the blowback from my conversation with Charles Murray, and that's a sobering _*_reality_*_ (reminder) of the environment we're in."_
@trollop_7
@trollop_7 3 года назад
Well, am I?
@Mimi-up5ro
@Mimi-up5ro 9 месяцев назад
Nurture & Nature...🤔🤔🤔 Thinking of DNA from an adoption point of view and abusive-environment point of view give me different ideas...🤔🤔🤔 I understand that the environment can work as a trigger in many situations, and it can create different types of results depending on one's understanding of the situation and emotional intelligence. #Knowledge But here is what's makes this interesting. I've seen this experiment on abused infants and how their behaviors were affected because of the neglects they have experienced. So far, nothing surprising, but I think you have mentioned DNA wire us for certain outcomes and experience. So, my question is, were those kinds wired to be abused? Is it to do with their DNA or the environment they were put in or raised upon? Also, therapy + medications are there to help us rewrite or learn to cope from the mental programming experienced previously...🤔🤔🤔 Rewiring/Rewriting the mental programming one has received before kind of further us away from the adoption perspective a little. Clear why would be how did those babies knew what's happening to them was wrong? They are like a white canvas, and they are not born with all the standards we adults learn as we grow. Is that the DNA part that's mentioned here? Survival instinct?🤔🤔🤔 What a curious bundle of joy they are...🔍✨
@MauroRincon
@MauroRincon 3 года назад
I love how diplomatically the scientist tells Sam at the beginning that he does not want to talk about average differences in intelligence, because the scientific tools are not truly there yet and thus, assigning a genetic origin to them is no more than unscientific speculation. Ah, and he also tells him how Murray's motivations are dubious at best.
@latebloomer7191
@latebloomer7191 2 года назад
If you liked that, try the Hidden Brain episode Why You're Smarter Than You Think. It gives another look at IQ tests and how we measure intelligence.
@borislaviliev251
@borislaviliev251 3 года назад
At the end intelligence is just the potential you have and a tool, it depends on many other things to use it right and to accomplish something that worth.
@gma8328
@gma8328 3 года назад
Blowback is pretty much endemic to podcasting no matter what the topic in the current environment.
@KrakenStudiosGames
@KrakenStudiosGames 3 года назад
What is the best DNA test? Anyone know so I can research? I want one to identify issues with my genetics. For example on my family's side have all died from dementia. I suspect it is because they all smoked or were exposed to smoking. I'd like to know my vulnerability.
@WheelsofSteal
@WheelsofSteal 3 года назад
It's like when Hank Hill met his brother from Japan! So identical.
@Jacob_A_OBrien
@Jacob_A_OBrien 3 года назад
I'd like to complexify the comments made on epigenetics, inheritance, and "all you need to know are the genetics" a little bit. We don't just inherit DNA, we inherit the molecular/cellular environment. This includes DNA but it also includes the mRNA molecules within the cell or the non-coding RNA molecules that also regulate gene expression. We inherit the proteins within the cell and the organization of the molecules within the cell. And there is a list of many more molecules. This means that the initial state varies, even if the genetics are identical. This translates to gene X being expressed ("told to be created at") at 10% vs 15% even with identical genetics, and this will have some effect over time. Biology though is truly miraculous at taking a huge range of inputs and compressing them to some smaller range of outputs. This means that our biology may perform a similar set of actions even if the environment (in this case molecular) varies quite drastically. For example, if your cells need some molecule to be expressed, over averaged time, at 100 000 molecules per cell, it may be possible for them to maintain that over different environments. In this context, our genetics produce/constrain the set of rules that the molecular environment has to work with, and those rules work to maintain some set of environments over time. So to bring it back together, the subtlety lies in whether the initial state leads to a different equilibrated (holding the system at some balanced point) state or not. And in many cases, just knowing some abstract view of the rules, the genetics, is enough to predict the variance with some degree of certainty.
@rajaarajaa3719
@rajaarajaa3719 3 года назад
Please pleaaase make subtitle in frensh. Thank you
@steveplourde7086
@steveplourde7086 3 года назад
This is in the same way mathematics is to economics, these truth's interlace everything, we are mostly designed to not notice or perceive them. Like spectrums of light these elements of human existence are transcendent in the truest sense. We may be right about this or that ; but we will also be wrong about at least as many reality. Perhaps the blank slate should rather than being an idea, it should be our mental state a necessary to engaging in these conversations.
@basiclucidity
@basiclucidity 2 года назад
Hi sam, is there a way that i can subscribe in Indian currency🙂
@sidcb9926
@sidcb9926 3 года назад
I'm a computer science student... which means I have only physics chemistry maths and computer science as main.. is there any chance that I can study about brain-Neuroscience. I'm not a biology student...
@jaymay7957
@jaymay7957 3 года назад
45:50 lol that's how I feel reading to my son
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 года назад
Part of the problem seems to be the underlying data. BMI is basically just pounds per inch of height, obviously your body shape will have more to do with BMI than anything else (genetic). A healthy active person who is tall and thin will have a much lower BMI, than a stocky healthy active person. So even if parents 100% determined the eventual physical activity of the children in their care it wouldn't show up in the BMI numbers, because again, the data on BMI itself is shifting the data to favor hard genetic differences over behavioral differences (which can be presumed to have genetic differences, admittedly.) Effectively, the behavioral differences which might be entirely nurture related, for the sake of argument, would also express themselves differently. Parents encouraging children to be athletic might drive one child who is built like a runner to have a very low BMI, while another child becomes a power lifter with a very high BMI. Meaning that despite assumed 100% parental effect on the children's behavior, their actual BMI would look entirely to be genetic related. Thus the data set and conclusions are entirely irrelevant.
@daniellancet3852
@daniellancet3852 3 года назад
This guy lit sam up casually on race and IQ quality
@xImBeaST12321x
@xImBeaST12321x 3 года назад
?
@rommanarayan7058
@rommanarayan7058 3 года назад
And for good reason
@Junglebtc
@Junglebtc 3 года назад
Could you explain that statement my friend
@harpsmith8570
@harpsmith8570 3 года назад
I fell asleep during part of the video Daniel, can you give me a timestamp?
@xImBeaST12321x
@xImBeaST12321x 3 года назад
thanks for cutting out the last 30 seconds of your guest's response at the end, he just happened to be clarifying the PRACTICAL interpretation of the podcast's subject but we didn't need to know that anyways 😂
@sthubbar
@sthubbar 3 года назад
Is that where he made the comment about meritocracy?
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 3 года назад
He cut off the last hour. This is only a partial upload. You have to pay to get the full version.
@ProfRonconi
@ProfRonconi 3 года назад
@@andybaldman No, you have to register. If you cannot afford the subscription, you can still register. Sam made it very clear at the beginning of the podcast. So don't cast aspersions unless you are absolutely certain of the truth of your statements.
@pvc25
@pvc25 3 года назад
Damnit Sam, I *really* want to blame the parents!
@M.Tsabet
@M.Tsabet 3 года назад
Toooop 👍👍👍
@Pax_Et_Veritas
@Pax_Et_Veritas 3 года назад
A nuanced, incisive analysis.
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