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The NBA Should Make Screen Assists a Box Score Stat | LeBron James & JJ Redick 

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In this video, JJ Redick and LeBron James (The Los Angeles Lakers) talk about why screen assists should be a box score stat to better capture the importance of players like Rudy Gobert and Draymond Green.
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@joshuayarbrough4472
@joshuayarbrough4472 Месяц назад
Somebody get JJ a damn tablet😂😂
@rangergaming8316
@rangergaming8316 Месяц назад
I agree, I think the box score layout needs to be revamped because the NBA in the last 10 years has gone towards analytics and it often does a better job at painting the right picture of what's impacting the actual game.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Месяц назад
Yes. But we also shouldn’t worship analytics, make them the best all end all. But yes. Need better stat insights providing analysis
@maartenvz
@maartenvz Месяц назад
Plus minus/net rating already catches a lot of impact a player has. It gets better with a larger sample size ofcourse. What i used to do when i was a coach is to count "key passes" -> passes that led to a good shot. Now you also get an "assist" if the shot is missed. It made the team more willing to pass
@rangergaming8316
@rangergaming8316 Месяц назад
@@newagain9964 I completely agree, stats shouldn't be the most important thing but it's certainly very important especially now.
@CLYMA1.5CHAINZ
@CLYMA1.5CHAINZ Месяц назад
Yeah, and travelling should be a stat
@rangergaming8316
@rangergaming8316 Месяц назад
@@CLYMA1.5CHAINZ travelling falls under turnovers because you can only travel when you have possession of the ball so when it's called it results in a turnover so it's already accounted for.
@bignut3348
@bignut3348 Месяц назад
Screen Assist (+Teammate Chemistry)
@josephthibodaux6033
@josephthibodaux6033 Месяц назад
Facts
@mc76
@mc76 Месяц назад
True, but a player's agent can't really negotiate his contract on abstract concepts.
@AreYouFNQRAZII
@AreYouFNQRAZII Месяц назад
@@mc76it’s a 2k reference old man😭
@BrianDonato
@BrianDonato Месяц назад
Interesting thought on screen assists! Would help casuals view players in more positive light if it was stat. I looked up leaders and Kings dominate this category. Sabonis leads league in screen assists per game & his backup Len leads in league in screen assists per 48 min (min 100 minutes)
@j-us-t_be-in-g
@j-us-t_be-in-g Месяц назад
You're a casual for considering a screen assist. Y'all are so delusion. Y'all hang onto every word of theirs. Lol. This gives people who don't actually watch the games more stats to look at. Lmao.
@614showtime
@614showtime Месяц назад
@@j-us-t_be-in-gthat’s the point…so then box score watchers would have more knowledge of what actually happened in the game…wow a novel concept
@luigidabest4743
@luigidabest4743 Месяц назад
i disagree i think it'd make casual view players in a negative light. if people saw that most of sabonis's assists come off of hand offs and that a lot of them don't involve any sort of passing or playmaking they'd view his assist count as fraudulent which it kinda is tbh some of the assists they give him is wild
@Coldass
@Coldass Месяц назад
Just bron tryna ruin the game even more smh. Incentivize more illegal moving screens.
@NewWokeMedia
@NewWokeMedia Месяц назад
“ how far did that get the hawks “ …. SAVAGE 😂
@RankerTossBosss
@RankerTossBosss Месяц назад
JJ just described the entire Mavs offense lol, blitzs luka, make extra pass to the slot( gafford) or swing it to the corner, or Gafford takes 1 dribbles and dunks or he draws in the other defender for a free kick out 3..
@chauvintookaknee4blm268
@chauvintookaknee4blm268 Месяц назад
Gaffird is avg 4 on 3. Maxi is terrible. Powell is bad. Curry has no idea how privileged he is to have green and Kerr
@RankerTossBosss
@RankerTossBosss Месяц назад
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 You're definitely wrong, that's ok though. I'm sure the warriors will make the playoffs 😭
@chauvintookaknee4blm268
@chauvintookaknee4blm268 Месяц назад
@@RankerTossBosss you're an insecure currycel. He's overrated. It's ok to see the truth
@bigboogietv5009
@bigboogietv5009 Месяц назад
I just realized he knows darvin ham and the lakers are watching this and he is basically telling them what to run and what works .. this dude lebron is a genius
@mark-one6511
@mark-one6511 Месяц назад
probably told them already but darvin have different ideas 😂
@chauvintookaknee4blm268
@chauvintookaknee4blm268 Месяц назад
​@@mark-one6511bacon is trash
@jamiethomas5849
@jamiethomas5849 Месяц назад
Counting screen assists as a stat would help explain why Kwame Brown had a 14 year NBA career
@SullyAfgarshe
@SullyAfgarshe Месяц назад
Aye yo…it just hit me why this podcast is great, it really is an interesting and intelligent conversation about the game of BASKETBALL…no bullshit narratives, no emotions, no stupid adds, no dumb graphics and meaningless stats…we’re literally listening to the 🐐just chopping it up about basketball 🫡🫡🫡
@zukusenryu
@zukusenryu Месяц назад
I’ll admit I’m a casual box score watcher
@vadversityy9223
@vadversityy9223 Месяц назад
That’s not a bad thing dude, it’s bad when people who are make bad takes or tries discredit someone who’s impact doesn’t show up on the box score. Not everyone gotta know all ab the game
@hankanatorpoo8777
@hankanatorpoo8777 Месяц назад
@@vadversityy9223 its a bad thing if youre forming opinions while barely watching any games and just looking at the box score
@vadversityy9223
@vadversityy9223 Месяц назад
@@hankanatorpoo8777 u just repeated what I had JUST said...
@kawhi-theking_of_the_north3536
@kawhi-theking_of_the_north3536 Месяц назад
Same
@JBullock54
@JBullock54 Месяц назад
Wow, you just spoke for 95 % of NBA fans. That’s why we don’t value your opinion as much as you want
@noeyb976
@noeyb976 Месяц назад
I Respect the fact Bron talks about the Lakers plays as well and just not out here putting every other team on blast.
@HeroicJei
@HeroicJei Месяц назад
I wish he would put other teams on blast, that would be hilarious
@tylerneikirk5551
@tylerneikirk5551 Месяц назад
“Why didn’t you score a touchdown Jason?!?” Lmaoo
@tobiabidoye7548
@tobiabidoye7548 Месяц назад
i was not one of them ones is a crazy thing to say 😭 jj was tuff in college tho
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 Месяц назад
I was really saying this in HS cuz my job was to screen off ball and on ball and I was “responsible” for legit like 15 points one game just cuz of how our offense was set up. But I never shot or handled the ball so I looked useless 😂
@thesilverbaby4880
@thesilverbaby4880 Месяц назад
This podcast is too good😭
@mc76
@mc76 Месяц назад
Blocked shots and steals were not counted as official stats in the NBA until the 1974-74 season, so I am all for screen assists being added to the list. Gobert and Green have other ways to shine, but the value of guys like Luke Kornet, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Clint Capela, Steven Adams, et al., would be greatly enhanced both in the eyes of fans and GMs if that stat were made official.
@josephthibodaux6033
@josephthibodaux6033 Месяц назад
I 100% agree with this
@thatguy1488
@thatguy1488 Месяц назад
i think they should because those things are super valuable when it comes to winning and creating scores and they don’t get representation when discussing how good a player is for their teams success
@MrTrueCaller619
@MrTrueCaller619 Месяц назад
Totally agree
@2Big4Film
@2Big4Film Месяц назад
these days every single stat should be recorded ... this will for sure compliment the current box scores and stats ... also gauge skills and value on the open market.
@micahpg3407
@micahpg3407 Месяц назад
Screen assists, shots contested and true shooting % replacing field goal % need to be made mainstream.
@nismospek
@nismospek Месяц назад
Its really crazy that they don't track the Hockey Assist especially now with how everyone plays the 3pt line.
@snowmountainlion
@snowmountainlion Месяц назад
These two would have put on together
@gregoryharris4674
@gregoryharris4674 Месяц назад
I love this straight nerdy basketball talk
@PressureFlipperZ
@PressureFlipperZ Месяц назад
Lebron James is really good @ passing & that gets overlooked somehow?
@ShaqattackShaqattack
@ShaqattackShaqattack Месяц назад
Uncut hoops never mention how good l b j passing is! You’re right
@Donta-uq2ht
@Donta-uq2ht Месяц назад
No it doesn’t
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Месяц назад
He’s a good passer, for a guy his size and for him being ball dominant. But nothing spectacular. He do make a lot of bone headed passes that results to a lot of TOs
@DETONATEDx
@DETONATEDx Месяц назад
@@judahmourneth3211😂
@jonjhon8491
@jonjhon8491 Месяц назад
Pass this 🍆
@urcmanonthewii
@urcmanonthewii Месяц назад
Add deflections too.
@alexsmith3598
@alexsmith3598 Месяц назад
Deflections that lead to a side out are basically meaningless. A deflection that leads to a steal is credited to the deflector. It's already a stat.
@DSCris
@DSCris Месяц назад
@@alexsmith3598 disagree on them being meaningless. They eat up a significant amount of the shot clock and disrupt the offense, leading to a way worse shot opportunity off the inbound. Probably not valuable enough to be on the box score though lol
@boomshakalaka8457
@boomshakalaka8457 Месяц назад
Screener MVPs David West Steven Adams Tyson Chandler
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Месяц назад
Steven Adams screens you don’t recover from…
@joshnkoy
@joshnkoy Месяц назад
missing Gortat as well
@ruipais2982
@ruipais2982 Месяц назад
Assists sould be counted when fouls are called in the act of shooting or and one.
@ghinesnba
@ghinesnba 6 дней назад
They would also have to make the free throws
@perfectman29
@perfectman29 Месяц назад
screens and hockey passes need to be added for sure
@pelius570
@pelius570 Месяц назад
I also think that charges should count as steals. They serve the same purpose of changing possession.
@batsdaylights
@batsdaylights Месяц назад
Add successfull Pick and Roll count
@KasperG87
@KasperG87 Месяц назад
I think the NBA could do something similar as to hockey. There's so much more going on in thevgame and the current stats
@DLites151
@DLites151 Месяц назад
Can we track ILLEGAL SCREEN assists? Moving picks are real, and too frequent.
@RLSmith-jt8qj
@RLSmith-jt8qj Месяц назад
Most screens today are moving screens. So it's not going to happen captain
@tyreek.6815
@tyreek.6815 Месяц назад
Everyone does it. Every team does it. If this was a diss at Draymond you’re corny and a hypocrite.
@DLites151
@DLites151 Месяц назад
@@tyreek.6815 Draymond does it but every team that does it every one of them should be called. Like wtf. The draymond screen in this very video is illegal though.
@rageliife
@rageliife Месяц назад
Fellas time is running out we will miss the King on the court😢
@Georgefillz
@Georgefillz Месяц назад
This exactly how I be arguing with people on 2k when they just look at the box score. Screen assist and the pass to assist mos definitely need to be in the box scores. That would shut up a lot of people on determining who good or not.
@JimmyLamStudio
@JimmyLamStudio Месяц назад
Honestly, if this helps very small role players feel like they contributed something out of the traditional box score, just put it on. But put it waaaaay in the back of the box score.
@chevytahoe9913
@chevytahoe9913 18 дней назад
For sure
@arminhashtroodi8432
@arminhashtroodi8432 Месяц назад
What they could do is either make it it's own stat or like if you get 2 screen assists =1 assist.
@priztucker
@priztucker Месяц назад
JJ needs to get one of those touch screens CNN be using. That clipboard ain’t it in 2024
@Ma1q444
@Ma1q444 Месяц назад
They also need a moving screen assist stat for the warriors
@snipersonly7688
@snipersonly7688 Месяц назад
Been saying this since 08
@wiktork
@wiktork Месяц назад
Gortat would be on top of leaderboard few years back
@fazetharu6826
@fazetharu6826 Месяц назад
Parley builders don’t make it no better lol😂
@warrendugan6459
@warrendugan6459 Месяц назад
Mr. Silver take notes 👀
@85Hellkite
@85Hellkite Месяц назад
Jokic already destroying the stats... you add screen assists and hockey assists.....
@anirudh_s17
@anirudh_s17 Месяц назад
If screen assists were a box score stat, we'd need to rewrite a significant amount of triple double records
@MistyKathrine
@MistyKathrine Месяц назад
Good.
@5stariley
@5stariley Месяц назад
Then who gets for a double screen? What about an off ball pin down screen that leads to a 3?
@calogerocassaro4092
@calogerocassaro4092 Месяц назад
90's lovers ain't got idea on how complexed basketball has became as opposed to one on one basketball even kobe got a taste of golden state at the end of his career and could only admire steph's ability to shoot on a poket 😊
@wesb287
@wesb287 Месяц назад
4:02 JJ had game. The only reason Book said he not“one uh dem ones” is he fully enunciates it😂😂
@Gremiyun
@Gremiyun Месяц назад
MY LEGLORIOUS KING 😍😍😍
@Gremiyun
@Gremiyun Месяц назад
bron aint gone let u hit lil bro
@rrogers2370
@rrogers2370 Месяц назад
Tampon tea
@JustJayMusic08
@JustJayMusic08 Месяц назад
Lebron and JJ need to coach a team. That would be box office
@snowmountainlion
@snowmountainlion Месяц назад
Question ... What does a jj-bron situation look like.. How do yall imagine what it look like if yall played together
@abel6846
@abel6846 Месяц назад
Like there are players who do a ‘sacrificial’ run, drawing their defender away, thus creating space for a play.
@Rxpaso
@Rxpaso Месяц назад
I think they should, in soccer they have something like that pretty sure it’s called key passes.
@howtouploadinfullquality3638
@howtouploadinfullquality3638 Месяц назад
Zach Lowe fuming right now
@j-us-t_be-in-g
@j-us-t_be-in-g Месяц назад
If the NBA adds stat categories, this will influence people to watch the less and less. People already don't watch games enough.
@marcozambelli3642
@marcozambelli3642 Месяц назад
The only way for Draymond to avoid his usual triple single🤣🤣🤣
@tyreek.6815
@tyreek.6815 Месяц назад
You’re proving their point.
@goku..7
@goku..7 Месяц назад
More stat pads🤣😂😂
@MrOneanddone91
@MrOneanddone91 Месяц назад
😂😂😭😊
@nofones
@nofones Месяц назад
Boy oh boy where do I even begin. Lebron.. honey, my pookie bear. I have loved you ever since I first laid eyes on you. The way you drive into the paint and strike fear into your enemies eyes. Your silky smooth touch around the rim, and that gorgeous jumpshot. I would do anything for you. I wish it were possible to freeze time so I would never have to watch you retire. You had a rough childhood, but you never gave up hope. You are even amazing off the court, you're a great husband and father, sometimes I even call you dad. I forvever dread and weep, thinking of the day you will one day retire. I would sacrifice my ownlife it were the only thing that could put a smile on your beautiful face. You have given me so much joy, and heartbreak over the years. I remember when you first left clevenland and its like my heart got broken into a million pieces. But a tear still fell from my right eye when I watched you win your first ring in miami, because deep down,my glorious king deserved it. I just wanted you to return home. Then allas, you did, my sweet baby boy came home and I rejoiced. 2015 was a hard year for us baby, but in 2016 you made history happen. You came back from 3-1 and I couldn't believe it. I was crying, bawling even, and I heard my glorious king exclaim these words, "CLEVELAND, THIS IS FOR YOU!" Not only have you changed the game of basketball and the world forever, but you've eternally changed my world. And now you're getting older, but still the goat, my goat. I love you pookie bear, my glorious king, Lebron James.
@JBullock54
@JBullock54 Месяц назад
I love this podcast. It confuses all the casuals who think they know ball
@genocidehero9687
@genocidehero9687 Месяц назад
Hockey assists too
@Eric-mc5to
@Eric-mc5to Месяц назад
I think jj wasn’t to be clear on this
@AreYouFNQRAZII
@AreYouFNQRAZII Месяц назад
It is on 2K🤷🏿‍♂️😅
@Olyphantman
@Olyphantman Месяц назад
Let’s be clear.. Lebron is 39,000 years old, scored 40,000 pts Still cooking dudes scoring 25 a game at 50%fg And you mean to tell me that while he’s still competing he’s sitting around giving away his tendencies and reads on the court and there’s nothing these players or coaches can do to stop him? Wow 🐐 🤴🏾
@JimmyLamStudio
@JimmyLamStudio Месяц назад
Easy double double every night
@domingow.17
@domingow.17 Месяц назад
Btw this is why jokic always has ridiculous advanced stats. He already is among league leaders in assists and he probably has at least 4 or 5 screen assists every game.
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 Месяц назад
What are we doing???? Whats next make a hockey assists next?
@snowmountainlion
@snowmountainlion Месяц назад
Boxscore can equal contract dollars, guys wanna get paid da most ... U put the right team stats in the stat sheet narratives change how guys preform
@bearhugz6067
@bearhugz6067 Месяц назад
❤❤
@CeoMunna
@CeoMunna Месяц назад
The nba should let you get a assist if you pass somebody the ball and they get fouled and make both free throws
@lawrenceclaybrook716
@lawrenceclaybrook716 Месяц назад
Big men would start getting triple doubles easy. I’m all for it 😂
@Hasone12543
@Hasone12543 Месяц назад
You are my sunshine🌝
@rahulbosebose1
@rahulbosebose1 Месяц назад
This series confirm what everyone suspected for a long time.. Lebron is very analytical about the game.. just overthinks at times.. When you are so much better than others he could have just dominated more if he didnt overthink.
@Buopp2
@Buopp2 Месяц назад
true but too easy
@randallmoore5968
@randallmoore5968 Месяц назад
An episode with bron and mike we NEED IT!!
@stevenschuster
@stevenschuster Месяц назад
Were JJ and Lebron friends before this?
@alberttsai3659
@alberttsai3659 Месяц назад
I wonder how Darvin Ham's basketball IQ measures up to Lebron's.
@KingKay4kTV
@KingKay4kTV Месяц назад
I do wish jj played one season with bron smh he would have been curry before 16
@a_a_ron420
@a_a_ron420 Месяц назад
Good contest & bad contest
@lilblue007
@lilblue007 Месяц назад
Lets just stat the stat the stat.. gamblers need more.
@eddiegriffinjones5541
@eddiegriffinjones5541 Месяц назад
Bron knows basketball, obviously. But he can't articulate it probably.
@user-we2ik6qs9c
@user-we2ik6qs9c Месяц назад
also, add illegal screen and a flop
@jasonszeto7790
@jasonszeto7790 Месяц назад
Letsss gooo
@jareddickerson5127
@jareddickerson5127 Месяц назад
LeStatistics
@DevinRhode2
@DevinRhode2 Месяц назад
Lol don't foul Just try (since all star break, free throws are dramatically down due to a shift in officiating favoring the defense)
@chrisbrooks6756
@chrisbrooks6756 Месяц назад
Here's an idea, do away with ALL stats, and just play the game as hard and well as you can competing and trying to win! Stats are garbage and are for nerds that are too lazy to watch and appreciate the intangibles.
@J_eth1230
@J_eth1230 Месяц назад
Bro stfu bum stats is important wtf u saying
@Zay0321
@Zay0321 Месяц назад
You do know that coaches and players read box scores between quarters in a game for strategy purposes. and they for sure watch the game at a level we can’t. Stats are helping but not the end all be all. No sport is ever going to do away with stats
@chrisbrooks6756
@chrisbrooks6756 Месяц назад
@@Zay0321 I'm well aware. If you truly understand the game, as a player or coach, you make adjustments on the fly. Without looking at a stat sheet, you know what a player's/teams tendencies are, and plan/adjust accordingly. If you can't do that with eye test and experience, you're not very good at what you do.
@J_eth1230
@J_eth1230 Месяц назад
@@chrisbrooks6756 u are bum fr
@Zay0321
@Zay0321 Месяц назад
@@chrisbrooks6756 WTH so now championship nba level coaches aren’t good at there job, because they look at stats too🤣🤣😂. you can’t keep track of how many 3s a team hit in a quarter or how many minutes a certain player is playing or how many fouls your team is committing etc just by looking m, basketball is fast pace and 10 guys are are in action. Yes you have to analyze the game with your eyes but stats are the summarization of the game. as I said no sport is going to not track stats so get that idea out your head
@user-dr2ww2jg8o
@user-dr2ww2jg8o Месяц назад
No they shouldn’t 😂😂😂
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Месяц назад
Lebron done lapped MJ in the GOAT convo. James gives back, all MJ wanted to do was to take, get filthy rich and taunt his enemies. 😒
@haitianballer14
@haitianballer14 Месяц назад
Lebron got 2 phones? One for the plug and one for the load ?
@user-iz3ts2tr2v
@user-iz3ts2tr2v Месяц назад
Next video, Why Nut Shots and Trips Should Be a Box Score Stat?
@waev1471
@waev1471 Месяц назад
Please stop with the be clear line
@Ma1q444
@Ma1q444 Месяц назад
Nba2k pass to assist
@minnsamz
@minnsamz Месяц назад
No
@WaveGod813
@WaveGod813 Месяц назад
Bro no 😂
@Kane-qf8dn
@Kane-qf8dn Месяц назад
This show displays a real human side to Lebron. As well as displays JJs and his own brilliance and passion. Absolutely all for it, rhetorical basketball world will benefit greatly from this.
@eitanseri-levi2169
@eitanseri-levi2169 Месяц назад
Can someone tell lebron to stop saying “yep” all the time lmao
@chauvintookaknee4blm268
@chauvintookaknee4blm268 Месяц назад
They should make illegal screens a stat too, huh Warriors fans
@redbear665
@redbear665 Месяц назад
Two clowns, promoting alcohol & explaining how the Circus works
@tryintomakeit
@tryintomakeit Месяц назад
Screen assist should not be a box score stat... participation type shyt
@DJSingleTone
@DJSingleTone Месяц назад
Screen assists and hockey assists should both be on all basketball stats websites (basketball reference, ESPN, etc.)
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