The NCR's Fatal Flaw 

Republic of Dave-NCR War. Not even close. I’m not sure any power in the Westland could even come close to Dave

​@@alexchop391I once heard Dave killed a 1000+ army of super mutants with just his cock.

Republic of Dave-NCR Cosmic Hyperwar DLC when

⁠@@secondarytrollaccount that’s a weapon of ass destruction right there

Ceaser is going west to get away from dave

They most likely do

That's because no one can use strategic weapons without utterly ruining the silly philosophical 'themes' the writers are harping on about

😂

Nigga I’m working here

The Legion is the Gothic barbarians wearing Roman facepaint, the NCR is Rome wearing modern USA facepaint

Agreed. In many ways I think the legion actually resembles the Mongol empire more than anything. Uniting and absorbing tribes, assimilation if the enemy surrenders, and extreme reprisals if they do not.

The Legion does not Resemble Rome beyond its Aesthetic and thats Intentional. Imperial Rome Elected it's Emperor and had a Senate. Edward Claims to be the Incarnation of Mars. Julius was Declared Jupiter by his Followers.

@@DaltonBlack-rz1px President Jordan Peterson: You gotta wash your balls, man! Edward Sallow: No *becomes Caesar*

Thats because New Vegas is merely a new frontier territory to them…theres a huge gap between that and their more core territories.

Really, because all of the pro and anti NCR information in this video came from Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, games that were made by the OG creators of Fallout, not Bethesda (Bethesda only published New Vegas). Also don’t think that New Vegas being written developed and released in the aftermath of the second Iraq war is remotely a coincidence.

@@pmpowalisz I'm quite aware and appreciative of the messaging of the NCR in the games. My jab was at how Bethesda has handled them in the show now that they are operating by themselves. I do apologize for not making that clearer.

In the show the NCR plays a major part in the story, (even though they are clearly in decline), so I do not know what you are talking about. The NCRs decline is well hinted at in Fallout New Vegas (which this video touched on quite a few of those hints), which was made by the OG Fallout creators. If it was as you claim the show would have just been on the east coast which is where the Bethesda Fallout games took place.

Agreed

New Vegas is what 3 should have been.

New Vegas has more to talk about, for better or for worse. Fallout 3 and 4 really only attracted and kept the more casual audience who just likes pew pewing.

@@DangleBlampy 3 is still a masterpiece and crashes a lot less than FNV. The only game that crashes more often than FNV is Action 52 I'm not even kidding.

@@TeamOneDay if you turn your brain back on you see it's just radiant quests meanwhile you can get jumped by freeside thugs and- [malcolm holmes alert!]

Nah that's Indiana. Ever been to Gary?

Underrated ass comment.

@@ravenoferin500 Rural America loves its tweak.

​@@ravenoferin500 Mostly people from California tho

@@mcdoogle_robotman per capita its West Virginia that's the worst. Cali has a lot because there is a lot of people there.

Damn near spot on. This is exactly the parallel that Caesar himself makes when probed on his ideology.

nicely done

​@@theneocypherbut what does this mean for quadriplegic Peruvians?

The Roman periphery was a massive money waste and sink, only there so the periphery provided cover for the inner core. Don’t think it applies to the NCR

The Legion isn't trying to be Rome, it doesn't govern anything. Edward Sallow simply used Julius Caesar's military strategies to build himself an unstoppable raiding force. Sallow doesn't care about building a nation and doesn't mess with wastelanders. He was looking for bigger and bigger enemies to overcome until he finally found a worthy opponent in the NCR. He even says, with his victory the Legion and NCR will merge and some new society will rise.

Therefore the best option is the NCR

Rome* if it was worse in every single way

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 the ncr does not have the swagger that house has so no

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 I don’t want to pay taxes so…

I'd probably say late rome trying to be early Rome for the legion

Probably because like America it was mostly made up of a lot of different peoples with different backgrounds ,traditions and languages meaning the most common elements rose to the top because of the need to to trade and efforts to create a common identity , American English and the New Californian culture from the HUB and other large cities like the Shady sands was adopted by tribals and small towns so that they could get better work and access more goods that were beginning to be created by the factories. The adoption of NCR currency over local currency and the decision to move to big cities in search of work and so on

The House always wins! In fact, in a Tim Cain video on the true purpose of vaults; it was to give data from all the vault experiments to speed up construction of starships to move humanity to the stars. You would need in a starship, how to grow a self-sustaining food supply (Vault 22), how to maintain life through cryogenic freezing (Vault 111), how to terraform planets (GECK).

​@@command8783 that was clearly a governement project though, governement means enclave, vault tech, general atomics, the institute etc were all subservient to the enclave, vault worked for them too, the only difference is that he had a moral compass and refused to do anything too evil, he merely built war robots for them, but we know he was kept out of the robobrain project (horror movie stuff), in fact the robobrain facility was hidden under a robco store, but ran by general atomics, with the roboco employes being kept in the dark about what was happening in their basement So had the future plans continued, it would have been the enclave expanding their empire into space, with spaceships being built likely by house and others, mr house meanwhile of course never liked working for the american governement, just didn't really have a choice being born an american, but also independently has his own projects for space colonisation, but while mr house's plan is more benevolent (the reason he wants to colonise the stars is to find a planet "not tainted by the madness and folly of mankind" AKA less irradiated), while the enclave just wanted to expand their extremely evil influence in all possible directions, including upward So it would be a big mistake to conclude that vault tech worked for house, that's absolutely not the relationship here, both house and vault tech worked for the enclave, and indepndently house also wants to build spaceships, but for reasons different than his old enclave master

Understandable.

No Gods, No Masters

A. Fucking. Branch.

Isn’t the faccio a fascist reference?

@@miguelgameiro8063 the term fascism references it, yes. But so do lots of things. There's even some in the US House of Representatives.

@@ju6599 fair enough it’s likely that’s just like the swastika that gain its notoriety from the no no people of the 1930’s

That’s one of my favorites!

Ulysses.... is that you?

@@Cold_Cactus Lol I never got to play the DLC but when I watched Oxhorn and like a billion other RU-vidrs dissecting his character I paid attention, I think I got most of it, I think.

This is the best take out of all the comments here

Update: I got to play the DLC, Woop woop!

Compare to all the factions in the game the ncr in my opinion is the best choice for the wasteland

Hot damn bro, I hate Ulysses this much too.

@@gloriousblobber9647 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7ZAlt_KA_K8.html

That's called the Great War here.

You can, or at least something similar. Through the game Hearts of Iron 4 and the Old World Blues mod for it.

(le gasp) taxes. Dun dun DUUUUUUNNN the great bane of all who try to make a living in the wasteland.

Nah couldn’t be. They just like to chill with the homies! 🚬

Not corruption. But taxes.

Not the heckin slavery and genocide in my post apocalypse wasteland 😢

nah man tunnel snakes (comin in from the other coast)

No They are a yes-man esq faction

The Minutemen are trying to be a military without a nation which means whatever nation that forms with similar value are naturally going to absorb the Minutemen into their military, that's the only way I see it happening and as far as we know, the closest nation forming in the East is the Brotherhood of Steel.

I hope not. At that point I'd have to blow up the Fort myself.

@@Gewalt1984 By the time we meet them, they're more akin to Yes-Man, but at one point they were like a Tandi Era NCR.

@@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460, they were a voluntary force, the NCR was an organized involuntary state.

insane cope

@@formulatag5880 Todd Howard himself said we haven’t seen the last of the NCR and he has a huge amount of say on things

@@formulatag5880 It’s all been confirmed. Either in the tv show itself or in the interview with the show writer and Todd Howard.

@@shadewolf0075 the ncr has lost californiia there gone man cut the cope

@@formulatag5880 they lost the boneyard we haven’t seen the rest of California nor have we seen southern Oregon. The only one who needs to drop the cope is you

looks like you put more thought into this than the writers of the show did. Bethesda/Amazon wanted a anarchy fallout 3/4 style setting for their show, and they wanted it to take place in Southern California because its easy to film there. so they made it happen, lore be damned.

I'd say the special serum thing is a bit vague. The reason why I say this is because this had only been introduced in the fallout TV show. In every other game, not mention of a special serum was needed for a ghoul to not turn feral. In fact, if I remember correctly- The only thing a ghoul needs to stay sane, is access to food, water, and avoiding an overdose of radiation. It's how ghouls that were there pre-war, were able to survive.

sole survivor*

NCR: haha AMR bullet goes pew Real talk NCR has people but BoS have a giant robot. Yet the giant robot will nuke everything but NCR can have millions die to hold a powerplant and restart it

@@fumothfan9 the NCR is only like, 1-2 million people as of FNV iirc.

That’s way more than the BoS have Also… artillery. Prime was taken down by an orbital strike, enough artillery, which the NCR have, would do the same. Stop tryna steal everyone’s shit, tin cans.

​@@arcticeagle342Stop taxing our shit into oblivion you John marston revolver spinning turnips.

my countries uniforms look really cool now I am worried

Why aren't their soldiers given the same drilling as the rangers, not just two weeks of basic training and a service rifle?

Agreed

This. Exactly. House had ideals and a vision but ultimately was just one man and in the real world when has giving one man absolute power ever been good for the people? Not to mention an eccentric billionaire. The Legion's way was already centuries outdated even before the war. Whatever order they offer, unless you wanna roleplay as a villain, doesnt justify slavery and rape among other barbarism.. The NCR isnt supposed to be flawless. It just has to be marginally better than the others. Which itself is up for debate but that's what the game's all about: choices with consequences. No way would there be an endgame decision that was so cut and dry as to be "the perfect choice" just degrees of good/bad.

@@dogbackwards7658 "in the real world when has giving one man absolute power ever been good for the people" uhhh almost always?? genghis khan, gaddafi, caesar, caesar augustus, a dozen other roman dictators, alexander, and literally hitler. its not their absolute power that was the catalyst for their peoples eventual downfall but the fact that their power was very limited and that they had to compete over it, either with interal or external rivals. giving someone like house absolute power would without a doubt be a good thing for the people considering that hes practically immortal and doesnt even have appetites or subordinates he has to please. these men had visions of greatness and prosperity for their people, and its the fact that they werent immortal, self sufficient, and heading an army of killer bots to enforce their will that was the source of their troubles. what an insane, historically ignorant, and unfortunately all too common point of view. Do you even think before you speak? Do you EVER second guess yourself??? ncr cuqqholds are utterly pathetic.

​@@theneocyphernobody asked

​@@darius9329You are delusional and need a chill pill

😂

The Legion will also have taxes if it's run anything like old Rome. At least with the NCR those taxes go to more than just maintaining the military.

Still better than becoming slaves

The BoS do be doing a little trolling. To be fair the NCR is in this situation because they have never actually won a war by themselves if it’s not against tribals. All their conflicts up to the BoS v NCR war was with the assistance of the Brotherhood. Yeah they won all the major battles against the BoS but never actually won the war since as far as present time the war is still going on. And the legion they made a stalemate. Honestly they tend to beat the enemy back but never finish the job which bites them every time

@@allenaju1856 Thats not true though. Their war against the BOS is still ongoing but as seen with the Mojave, they clearly have an overwhelming chance of victory and almost total victory over them, with the Mojave chapter literally hiding out and will die if the Courier doesn't intervene. The war against the Legion only goes bad because the NCR sends the bottom of the barrel and shit tier equipment to them while also having General "wait and see" Oliver who is hilariously incompetent. Yet they still manage to hold and even beat back the Legion by themselves with what amounts to an ill-equipped and over stretched garrison against a full on assault by the Legion. The NCR clearly can win against peer on peer conflicts and with the BOS slow decline, shows that as long as they have the will, can annihilate any foe in the wasteland.

​@allenaju1856 Well to be fair, the Brotherhood did just raid towns to steal pre war tech without any explanation. If I was a NCR citizen I would probably see that as a reason why they have to go.

they could still have crippled the legion by using there rangers to reek havoc on the legion side will making steady pushes with the army even if there just to burn the place down

BoS were psychopaths devoid of reality. Also legion has p much all of the midwestern tribes and land. Imo NCR needs to keep researching new tech in weapons and become more modern like the army in the current US. Otherwise BoS got a leg up on tech weapons and legion has strength in each person vs a bunch of people

War with the BoS is almost always inevitable, they’ll attack you if you use advanced tech & don’t give it to them, which includes stuff like artillery & HELIOS because of the space laser. If they want it, they try & take it, & that just isn’t gonna stand with factions that have a military or fighting force.

The BoS started that war because they're retards and demanded that the NCR give ALL the tech they got from the Enclave, including non-military stuff because "muh dangerous". They picked a fight, thought they could win, then got the hammer dropped on them because the NCR is a functional nation with a vastly superior industry. And the NCR stole a bunch of shit from the 2 bunkers they managed to capture without them exploding, which serves to make the BoS seethe to this day.

Communists never used human wave tactics though, the USSR actually pioneered combined arms warfare with their "deep battle" doctrine in the '20s and '30s

​@@JoetheDilo1917 The reason i said communist and not specifically USSR is because other communist nations have like china have used tactics that could be called human wave at least from the oppositions pov

human wave tactics is also the main thing the legion does, every NPC talks about it constantly, the legion literally charges against machinegun nests with swords and knives, with the expected result, until eventually the enemy runs out bullets, and because they have plot armor, somehow they haven't ran out of men Both the NCR and Legion use human wave tactics because their armies are made up of slaves, the NCR is a slaving empire, a conscript is a slave, same with the legion, both use conscription, both have armies of slaves, as such the commanders do not care about the lives of their soldiers, and are willing to use human wave tactics Any army of free men looks like the boomers, when they took casualties, they very quickly had to reajust strategy to stop the loss of valuable people, same with the brotherhood west coast chapters and the enclave, what all 3 have in common is that membership is either based on close nit communities (boomers and enclave), or voluntary (brotherhood), as such those factions all have in common that they won't use human wave tactics, because unlike the NCR and legion's slave armies, the military leadership feels kinship with the soldiers and know they are valuable, where as the NCR and Legion leadership handpick sadistic/deranged/psychopath generals to lead their troops, the generals are chosen to be the personality type of wicked serial killers, this is true in the ncr and legion, to further make sure that they don't care about the lives of the cattle legionaries and cattle rangers, over achieving the goals of their masters

​@@deltaforce2780 that's just china lol, when has china ever not done shit like this? As for communists, this is the same general structure, communists are small groups of social engineers who will enslave a large society, the armies of communsits are also slave armies, also made up of conscripts, as such the same patterns emerge, that of complete disregard for the lives of their troops The same is true in all slaving empires of significant size, the nazis did it, in fact contrary to what their propaganda will have you beleive, they were by far the faction of quantity over quality and zerg rush tactic, especially if you go further back and include WW1, this is true for mussolini's italy, where the best example is that time he tried to invade france, and after realising his army wasn't taking any objective, ordered his general to kill as many of his own soldiers as possible as fast as possible "so that he would have a few thousand dead to show for at the negociation table of the peace treaty to hitler" (lmao, "WHAT IS OUR DUTY? THAT WE FIGHT AND DIE! WHAT IS DEATH? WHAT MUSSOLINI WANTS TO BEG HITLER TO GIVE HIM SOME LAND! WHAT IS DEATH??? IT IS OUR DUTY!!!", imagine being a guy in that army) Exact same thing for england and the USA, who are also slave societies, they also had conscript, and also had the same characteristic complete disregard for their lives, the biggest example for america probably being the planned invasion of japan, where they expected something like 5 million american soldiers dying, and yet were completely willing to do it and didn't give a single shit about the lives of the cattle soldiers So really this is more of a trend of any slaver society, the communists without exception(well maybe except some small anarchist movement that circle the loop by the ancap) are slaver societies so they of course behave that way, but they're nto the only ones, any society that practices conscription can be safely expected to use human wave tactics, or do any other thing that is born out of a similar lack of intrest for the well being of their soldiers Same nowdays with ukraine and russia, both slave empires, both using mass conscription, and sending millions into meatgrinders, russia famously even uses conscripts to recon by sending them on suicide charges all accross the front (to see where there is a strong defence, by looking at where the most soldiers died lmao), and ukraine is hardly better but the uniting point of all these nations is that they are funded around the enslavement of the masses by a small group, sometimes in the shadow, sometimes in the open, sometimes honest about their goals, often not, but what matters here is that their armies are made up of slaves recruited at gunpoint, and as such will exhibit strategies like human wave offensives in most cases and btw the USSR absolutely did also do that, to respond to the guy above, combined arms was invented by everyone around the same time, the military architects weren't completely moronic and saw the implications of the knew plane technology, and arrived to the same conclusions everywhere, and I don't know about military history to say if the USSR was really the first to do defence in depth, but it is true they did that, however that's not incompatible with human wave tactics, neither is combined arms, just because you have a few bombers harassing the enemy backlines, and a few tanks, doesn't mean the soviets didn't also send masses of underequiped infantry to run screaming and die at the same time, for this they were the exact same as the germans As for why other nations didn't really do defence in depth, most didn't exactly have the luxury to afford it, countries in europe didn't have the population to spare any soldiers anywhere else than the frontline, meanwhile russia had a massive population, and was fighting a 1 front war on it's narrowest border, they had a lot of soldiers they could use as backup, and had nothign to lose by positioning these backup/reserves behind the frontline, choice made even more obvious by the fact they were losing ground, and could reasonably expect that these defensive lines behind the current front would eventually become the frontline in the future, so really it's something they would have done naturally, and maybe that's how it happened, it's possible they never got the idea and the strategy just morphed out of the very basic actions of putting reservists you didn't have guns and ammo for in places where you would expect future engagements to take place, so that they could already prepare the terrain. But considering the germans had a massive emphasis on raiding, sending their marauder armies to destroy the countries and civilians of the people they attacked behind the frontline, bypassing the defenders, I still find it unlikely no one with influence in the soviet union had the idea to turn this simple organisation of troops into a more intentional system of defence in depth My ovrall point here is still that most countries unlike russia, did not have the luxury or soldiers to spare to put anyone behind the frontlines, russia was in the unique position of having more men than weapons, having a lot of men, fighting on a relatively narrow front compared to the size of their country, and fighting an enemy of raiders who would often try to bypass the defenders and attack the civilians directly, to the point that this was their main war doctrine, doing a lot of things like inventing bombing, the blittrkrieg, focussing heavily on paratroopers and naval landingss, all of these are things germany id, because the main way they won wars was by threats, and by bypassing defending armies, as they had a lot of trouble defeating any foe they faced head on (in fact as far as I recall, the germans never defeated a single army head on, every time they failed to go around they were crushed and defeated, this happened in africa, italy and russia, coincidentally the only cases where they did not manage to go around the enemy army)

@@anonymous-rb2sr "the biggest example for america probably being the planned invasion of japan, where they expected something like 5 million american soldiers dying, and yet were completely willing to do it and didn't give a single shit about the lives of the cattle soldiers" Bruhhhh America cared so much they invented two atomic bombs to prevent the planned invasion.

Indeed, The roaming band of slavers and barbarians would serve better as Decor with their skin plastered over the walls of the Lucky Thirty-eight than Soldiers.

@@cowanshields8087 yeah I just don't tolerate how they crucified people and the massacre they did at Nipton it was bad it made me hate them no lie.

The house always wins

@@thatoneguy8146 I doubt it

Better to be a wage slave then a slave without a wage.

Prefer BoS because of the technology lol

@@feliciaf8you’d have to be born into it. The west coast doesn’t accept outsiders

Cope, profligate

Calm down it's just a fictional game faction bro

Imagine having a very unstable government (This post was ordered by the General of the Massachusetts Provisional Government any or all mentions of Minutemen atrocities in the MIT and Incelhood of Cringe and mentions of the Quincy Massacre will be censored to protect our people)

Long live the republic

L+California

Corruption too!

And incompetence.

high taxes, militarism, and disguised colonialist policy? it doesn't seem to me that people live that badly in france.

But the end slides for independent Vegas basically tell you that you've ruined everything

@@exball12 for a legion and ncr maybe :D ruined is rather strong word as its not that bad, my courier was a good samaritan after all

@@lattekahvi1298bruh it literally says there is a anarchy in the streets and the securitrons where hard pressed to keep the peace. Arcade Gannon openly states that he doesn’t think it’s the right choice in the ending slides. Any Buffon who thinks that they can run a country because they nuked the other ones is sped. Do better dingus.

@@superslav9101 2 weeks late, but anarchy only reigns if you lack the securitron army. That slide specifically states that the anarchic phase of the change in management was swiftly quelled and that troublemakers were not keen on fighting souped up TVs on wheels. The other slides that imply trouble in the Mohave are tied to the followers, khans, legion, BoS and powdergangers, and the only one you couldn't solve was the followers as theirs was more a comment on how a new and small independent state just didn't have everything they needed for their citizens right off the bat.

@@GoldRider4265 fair enough. courier still can’t run a country.

Ave!

​@@theneocypher legio non desinit cum Caesare.

@@theneocypher Mortem Caesaris. Ad Legionem.

Ave true to the shower basement dweller

They burn longer though

SPOILERS They collapsed because they got nuked by vault tec somehow.

​@squee317 yeah they clearly just kinda fucked off in the south though we have literally no idea beyond that.

Bethesda content is fan fiction. It can be ignored.

How come we never hear nor see about this “other capital”…

@@sulimanthemagnificent4893 because they haven't got there yet man

Bomber is best fakshun, innit?

Tbf he opened the can of worms with the literal use of the symbol of fasces so

​@@LeavingGoose046durp... Bro it's what the NCR was founded on. He explains that in the video. It's a part of Fallout lore.

The chief is a legion spy

True to Caesar

Ave

I nuked your Caesar in my game lol 🤣 aVe

@@hazeshi6779 good for you but no one asked. That’s always been an option in the lonesome road dlc.

nah, the roman larpers are the only ones who don't leave caravaneers out to dry

@@CombineWatermelon because plot armor and slaves do a lot of heavy lifting.

Anarchy is temporary, a powerful New Vegas however would be the inevitable outcome however short of the player character being a absolute incompetent nutjob.

​@@CombineWatermelon MUH CARAVANERS is all you care about happy merchants? Also house doesn't exactly control a large area of land(he awoke in 2274), but in the land he controls everyone is also safe, with the added bonus that he doesn't kill or torture half the people in the strip lastly the legion only tolerates merchants because it helps them while they need the help, if they were to conquer everyone and become to sole power remaining, they would enslave the merchants too, legion end game is everyone was a slave collar, the legionaries would be slaves, the merchants, the civilians, the legates would be slaves, the only free man would be the leader, who himself wouldn't really be free since he would be forced to do what won't cause an imediate revolt, instead of doing what he wants, and that's not even considering it would explode into systematic civil wars, constantly, like the monarchy period of the roman empire, that even had 6 different emperors in a year, an absolute disgrace of a nation that's already dead

Mr. House is the most sane character in all of Fallout who singlehandedly saved Vegas from getting nuked. The only thing House did wrong was finessing Vault 21 and filling most of it with concrete. He owns casinos because he has no other way to acquire money, and he hired gangs to run them because there were no other factions to recruit at the time.

Cringe

and thats why the roads will never get done silly

@@squid6368 man screw the roads, I need no roads

Based!

@@QuiteCoffee all 3

I have bad news…

Who’s gonna tell him?

LittleGalaxyBoy... Shady Sands...

war never changes.

Ooh you mean the crater from the show. What? Was it something I said?

the house always wins, so side with the winning team

​@@TheRyderShotgunnyesman better

"I'm on my way to Solitude to join the Legion, a united Empire is better for everyone."

there is always meta context in the bethesda game that isn't stated expreslly in the games, if you don't take it into account the players end up making catastrophic mistakes and basically dooming their survival and those of the people they supported, from this lack of information In skyrim/the elder scrolls, the background is this: a state/race of elf supremacists called the thalmor has declared war on the human empire, which was originally founded thousands of years ago by a chad dragonborn who later became the god talos, and is seen as the patron god of mankind (hence the dragon logo of the empire) The problem is the empire lost the first war against the elves, and managed to avoid the complete extermination of mankind by signing a treaty, that included banning the worship of the god of war (in the skyrim universe, gods get stronger as you worship them, by banning the worship of the god, they hope to make humans weaker at war in the future, so that conquering and genociding them will become easier) So basically, talos worship VERY GOOD, empire good, but the empire has to pretend they're following their treaty, less they rekindle the open war they are not currently in a state to win agains the thalmor, so they play a double game as best as they can, openly banning the worship of talos, while still trying to do everything they can to get stronger militarily, including secretely supporting talos worship, in a way that cannot be traced back to the empire If the empire fails to defeat the thalmor army in the coming war, literally all humans in the elder scrolls universe will be slaughtered, so if you side with the snowcloaks, you've just genocided all nords (which they kinda deserve, since they're trying really hard to arrive to that result) As for the people of the frontier frozen northern shithole province of skyrim, they have no idea what's going on, it's complete ooga booga city, everyone is dealing and focussed on completely irrelevant small local problems, no one is aware of the bigger picture, at best some people have a vague notion of a distant war witht he thalmors (and don't understand that if the empire loses the thalmor will come for them next and they have absolutely 0 chance of defeating them if that happens) Talos IS the god of humanity and the god of the Empire, he is literally the ascended first emperor, talos was the one who created the empire and conquered tamriel Stormcloaks are thalmor useful idiots, some of them are literal agents, they only exist to make exterminating mankind easier, and only the most clueless and brainless people, such as the nords of skyrim, and the average gamer, would support them Ulfric Stormcloak himself, their leader, (the yarl in the throneroom) is an agent working for the thalmor (literally to exterminate all humans), he was captured by the thalmors/Aldmeri dominion, he then sided with them, told them all the important intelligence he knew, and agreed to become a 5th column against the humans, at which point he was released by the thalmors, his new masters, and at which point he created a faction to undermine the empire So basically if you don't help the empire in skyrim, all humans are going to get killed, and if you side with the stormcloaks, you're a complete imbecile who just sided with a double agent who's mission it is to weaken mankind for a foreign non human empire that wants you dead

You had us in the first half not gonna lie. If you one for freedom then both the NCR and the Stormcloaks are the right choice.

Ave

@@theneocypher Mortem Caesaris. Ad Legionem.

Clown🤡🤡

"Like early NCR, be diplomatic (reasonably), seek peaceful outcomes if possible," yeah that's not what the NCR oes lol ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QGAa4EGErJg.html they genocide or enslave any group they meet on sight, there is no diplomacy, identical to the legion, in the NCR everyone is taxed and subject to concscription (therefore clearly slaves, not free men or citizen) The only reason they haven't killed house yet (for no reason other than they want everyone to submit) is because they don't have the military strength to do it, as House himself says, they're playing somewhat nice because they're not in a position of ovewhelming strength, if they were, they would kill everyone, like the legion, House knows this, that's why he has to let both sides kill each other if he has any chance to survive "yet like the legion, be harsh and merciless towards your enemies/criminals, to deter the corrupt, (within reason)" so "be cruel unfair and sadistic towards """"your enemies""", which is defined as "anyone you chose" ", great plan there chief " to deter the corrupt, (within reason)" ah yes creating institutions than can threaten everyone into silence sure sounds like a good way to avoid corruption oh wait no that's just a way to create and enforce corruption, a thief is defined as someone who steals stuff, what exactly are you going to do when Caesar or any of his officers steal from you? Oh that's right you're gonna bend over and take it like the little whore you are, but are they not thieves? Of course they are, you're just stupid enough to be convinced that there is a difference between a person that steals from you at gun point, and a person that steals from you at gunpoint while wearing a silly dress, there's no difference, the legion are raiders, just a larger group of raiders

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The ncr stands for democracy and human rights that gives its a citizens a good life is so much better then a mass murdering faction like Caesars legion your the only faction boy here

​​@@sergeantzack1106 "Noooo you cant criticize the faction that larps as the people who destroyed the world!!!" Get real.

@@thetardwrangler9001 the ncr didn't destroy the world get real

@@sergeantzack1106 No, bureaucratic democracy did. The exact thing that the NCR is attempting to replicate.

Robert Edwin House for president! vote House for president THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS!

​@@judgedrekk2981He has yet to defeat my 9 iron.

I think you mistook them for the legion. Look up the casualties lmao

I mean, what else can you do when your military is entirely infantry? The Legion does the same but vastly worse because the average Legion Recruit doesn't have a gun and ends up getting mopped by some conscripted Mojave grunt with 2 weeks training because he, you know, has a fucking gun.

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He got owned by a mailman

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 So did Kimball, Caesar, and benny, so I don't get your point here.

I also got owned by the mailman

Aren’t you the Benedict Arnold of everyplaythru

As soon as the legion tried to disarm me at cottonwood cove I knew then id side against them anytime a group disarms civilians history shows them to be the bad guys lol

I can never find a good reason to work with the legion in Fallout New Vegas I think it's because I like having better weapons using the Thompson the M1 Garand the 45 lever action shotgun and rifle

I always turned against Caesar's Legion and work with the Yes Man or the NCR

Kimball and Peterson are merely developing productive industrial forces

Unfortunately, such revolutions never put power into the hands of the people, they put power into the hands of petty dictators, leading to purges - mainly of the proletariat. China has produced more billionaires than the United States has, and the economic classes have not been abolished. As always, communism fails because the proletariat give up power to the greedy. Because the proletariat refuse to learn, so are ruled by fear and ignorance. When "the people" learn that lesson - that they must be responsible for themselves, not rely on "glorious leader", only then will communism have even the remotest chance of success.

My dude will cheer most of the population being turned to wageslaves and sit by for the rest of his life thinking "Just a few more days till the revolution"...

​@@NoFluliferally, bet he do that irl too

​​@@NoFlu Didn't Karl Marx think this too? Btw i'm not defending him.

In fallout 4 we do find out they took hoover damn

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Texan couldn't accept californian rule

Ah yess the land of infinite flat ground and shitty weather. Truly better than California.

California sucks, Texas also sucks New Commonwealth of Pennsylvania It’s okay all the old people can’t do anything

The problem with that is- it doesn't. You see in the games how hard it is for the NCR to keep their own trade routes clear, if they expand too far- they can't even fulfil their promises to those under their own flag.

The NCR is a extremist despotic military culture thinly veiled with democracy. The way corruption is depicted, described, and shown in the NCR makes me believe on good reason that they don't bring enough stability, propriety, or 'peace' to any region beyond their homeland. Those 'systemic issues' are a fundamentally broken part of the way the society formed. It's why so many people have become detractors from it, it's everything wrong with most modern societies inside of what should be a new beginning. The most comfortable and worse option just by familiarity.

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More like the traitors' descendents who abandoned Americans to die in nuclear exchange.

​@@sillybob9689 It wasn't them who launched the first nukes.

I get most the info from the game, and very few from supplemental works like guidebooks and developer statements. That specific information can be found in the game.