THE NEW BALANCE DRUID ROTATION - WoW Season of Discovery 

UPDATE: Our dots have been buffed and our rotation has changed (again). Will be making an update video soon but tldr you wanna replace wrath gcds with dot maintenance. It's around a 30 dps increase with good rotation and moonkin form is now very important to not drop (luckily we can now cast all our utility in form now).

was waiting to hear your thoughts specifically! thank you!

Been waiting for this! Appreciate the guide :)

Cheers. Can't wait for the raid video.

Great video ! As many others have commented, what are your talents?

Loving that pillars of eternity soundtrack on the vid 😊

Loved this vid auto. Would you be doing one with the coming changed to moonfire/sunfire damage changes? Keep up the amazing vids

Thanks for your video!

thank you so much, helped a lot

In a raid utility aspect, it’s probably not worth using sunfite. May as well put wild growth on our gloves and use it for spot healing

Thanks for the guide m8 the music was depressing very fitting :')

ive been an avid balance druid player in vanilla up until wrath, and all throughout classic, and NOW in SoD - this last week or two in SoD has been total chaos and ive been all over the place, very happy to finally have some of my questions answered after blizzard was flip-flopping all over the place with our rotations!

nice guide, your rotation seems more fun, but in PvP with the recents changes, what its a good rotation?

Great video! What is your advice on the crafted tailor vs leatherworking helm for boomkin? Thanks

Trying to figure out how the new rotation is.Do you have some new updated news about it yet? Really preached you other guides 😀👍

Did the rotation change now when sunfire and moonfire got buffed?

Are you making your take on a bis list soon? and what is the bis proffesions right now? Engi/LW or do we swich Engi?

what talent build are you running

What's your talent build?

Why would you wait that split second between starfire and starsurge? Eclipse say only wrath get crit buff. Great video btw!

What are your thoughts on the current BiS Lists out there? 3 piece irradiated vs 2 piece leather with the irradiated boots

So for talents do we take 5 points into improved starfire for the 0.5 reduced cast time? I guess the chance to stun is okay, also. But is it worth over other talents?

I’d like to try eclipse in its original state where it adds crit to both wrath and starfire. It would also be nice if they made starsurge both arcane and nature (similar to frostfire bolt) so that it could also benefit from the 20% debuff.

Does Nature's grace effect the rotation at all? Is there any benefit to prioritizing wrath vs starfire, or it doesn't make any difference since you have to cast either in the time starsurge is off CD?

Might be a stupid question but you should moonkin form correct? I just noticed you were not in the video.

So, what exactly is the point of the solar eclipse bubbles? They’re tracking the stacks of wrath crit chance right? If you’re doing the rotation correctly won’t you always have the correct amount of stacks? I am confused on their purpose.

new changes inbound for boomi, moonfire and sunfire get a-50% mana cost and +50% dot dmg. also moonkin form changes reduce mana costs by 50% which is HUGE

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Do you think it’s worth taking wild growth over Sunfire on later fights then? Surely the extra benefit of off healing is worth more than the minimal damage gain from moving unless you’re trying to parse in the first three weeks for some reason. Also, is there any merit to casting one wrath before StarFire to bait a Natures Grace proc for the star fire cast? It used to be that we used natures grace on StarFire, so I’m wondering if we still want to try and game it the same way

Starfire crit rate vs starsurge crit rate is 30% difference so it won’t be the same 😂 the pvp output in comparison to the other classes is laughable. The season was about trying new stuff yet they shoved the Druid in the same cataclysm situation and rotation, nothing new. They could have just retouched the pvp side of the spell without touching the pve but it’s too much work I guess 😂

Thanks for the rotaion. Very usefull guide and weakaura links. So to sum druid up.: Druid are OOMkings once again in pve. Our dots are not even worth casting unless u absolutely have to move. And bring alot of mana pots. In pvp druids dmg output is very poor, and the only rune worth casting, and to justify our place in the group (WG) cost 500mana....

Anyone know how to change the WA not to disappear when deselecting target? like I want to still see starsurge proc etc

So.... It's changing again on the 27th!! Does this mean moonfire and sunfire will become part of our main rotation in pve? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts 😊

What are your talents? :)

Hi, I want to propose a rotation which for me could be optimal if u want cast second starfire beetween Starsurge CD. Starfire (pre pull) ->Starsurge->Starfire->Wrath if critical strike you gain NG on next cast after first WRATH hit target so second WRATH do not benefit NG so you can cast STARFIRE before starsurge. Example with first WRATH critical : Starfire ( prepull)->Starsurge->Starfire-> Wrath ( critical)->Wrath->Starfire->Starsurge. Example with first WRATH no critical : Starfire ( prepull)->Starsurge->Starfire-> Wrath ( no critical)->Wrath-Starsurge. Sorry for my english :)

Kinda made the balance druid a bit useless in PVP.

When’s updated video dropping?? 🎉

sir I need to know your thoughts on latest patch Lifebloom mana cost reduced by 50%. Developers’ notes: Lifebloom refunds half its new base mana cost per stack when it expires or is dispelled. This part has always functioned in this way, and we’ve seen a bit of confusion around how the mana return portion of Lifebloom functions. Living Seed now heals for 50% of the critical heal that planted the seed (was 30%). This heal now blooms from non-periodic healing received, in addition to any damage taken. Nourish mana cost reduced by 27%. Moonkin Form now also reduces the mana cost of Moonfire by 50% and increases Moonfire periodic damage by 50%. Sunfire also benefits from this change. Moonkins can now cast non-healing Restoration spells without cancelling their shapeshift. This includes: Remove Curse, Remove Poison, Abolish Poison, Innervate, Rebirth, Revive, Mark of the Wild, and Gift of the Wild. Fury of Stormrage improved: when this rune makes Healing Touch instant, it now also makes it castable in all shapeshift forms.

moonkin sounds really boring now that they nerfed everything

I think moonkin form needs a buff, give just us double aura for 6% crit like hunters lion, and reduce mana cost while in form like spriests shadowform buff

I seem to run into the issue of doing too much threat

Where can we find your WA? , looking clean!

Talents?

what actionbar addon are you using?

Can you come out with the gnomer boomy PvE guide!?

Pve a week ago In bfd with some lvl 30s I was almost top of the charts. After ss nerf way bottom rip

Really interesting changes for pve!

Wouldn’t it be worth spamming wrath if the mob is effected by the dream state debuff and you have 4 stacks of lunar eclipse, you can fire off 4 wrath pretty quick and all have a high chance to crit

thanks for the video, can you link the balance druid discord?

Heavy nerfed for PvP 😢 I already started to level an other class I play the game for PvP not dragon punching. If become viable I will come back

I don't mind them getting us to use Starfire in our rotation, but at the expense of Sun/Moonfire feels bad. Will probably run Wild Growth -again- just because its such a strong utility heal

Stack manipulation? You mean suneclipse manipulation because lunar eclipse could just be inserted into the starsurge buff because aint no one casting starfires aside from the buffed one. I wish they did that and made lunar also give 30% crit would really help on pvp and pve making us see more starfirecrits and more starsurges crits, because doing 200damage on 3k health oneshoting classes is kinda not even worth pressing just heal and run.

Imo I felt that Surge should always crit. That way you could plan NG procs. This would also not break pvp, as Surge hits for... well, not very high.

Fellow boomie here, glad I found your vid. What's your thoughts on AoE? Is hurricane even worth casting? EDIT: Appreciate the weakauras too, been searching for some.

Link to boomie disc?

surely they won't change boomies again this phase right

you should never cast starfire without the proc from starsurge. I see you starting battles with it.

“Moonkins just got a big nerf…” Boomkin players from back when Wrath & Cata were live: “First time?”

I ❤ u

New video when? I want pvp video please:)

At this point I wish they never created starsurge and just had starfire to be worth a damn to begin with

I dont know. I dont like the idea to start a fight with a "no boosted" long cast starfire. Looks weird. I start with starsurge, cast a 2 sek starfire with bonus dmg.

Like a female you did a great job on this Chanel !

All I care is about getting flap rune or passive. Come on blizzard.

Balance druids have been ruined for lower lvls trying to climb...absolutely horrible experience at 25.

Please...look at Starsurge read the bottom part of skill. It benefits from all effects for wrath so after a starfire you get next 2 x wraths gives you 30% crit chance. So only use one wrath and save one for starsurge you get the 30% crit chance on the starsurge also. So you should be opening starsurge - starfire because starsurge is instant to follow up an 80% buffed starfire , then put up your Sunfire and moonfire and starsurge will be up rdy again and you have got 2x extra crit chance use starsurge for 1 and then wrath for the next one. Both will have 30% more crit chance if you get a crit proc you have speed cast for your next starfire then use starsurge and wrath again which will be quick casts and both having 30% crit chance again, this means you'll pretty much always have the extra crit up for both wrath and starsurge and also with decent crit chance you'll also be casting your Starfire and wraths fast.

Не понимаю, это разве нормально что перед глазами постоянно воспроизводится анмиация Затмений ? Зачем близзард это сделали ? Любой каст теперь провоцирует затмения ? Зачем делать уникальную анимацию такой назойливой ? У них всё хорошо вообще со вкусом ?

It's dead? Because one shot with instant cast was competitive... 😂😂

if you could talk just a slightly softer that would be perfect

Boomie pvp is dead :/

Eclipse is easily one of the worst mechanics in the game.

Meele cry about casters, hope meele get the same bs treatment as casters at lvl 60 where meele absolutily delete and 1shot casters

So long story short druid is garbage and will continue to be lowest dps and will still get destroyed in PVP. Getting solo'd by pets doesnt feel good..........

New video for phase 3? I using old rotation but I find Sunfire runs out faster than moonfire.

They nerf this but not Arcane surge?