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The New Tube For London 

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The New Tube for London is coming to the Piccadilly Line, with 94 new trains being - with half of those being built at a new Siemens factory in Goole, East Yorkshire. I went along for a press trip where we got to see a mock-up of the new Tube Train coming to the Underground by 2025!
Tom's video for BBC London : • Mayor sees new Piccadi...
Drone footage : Courtsey of Siemens Mobility
New Tube for London images : Courtesy of Transport for London
CORRECTION - The new trains will actually have NINE carriages (not six) with them being shorter in length so that the overall length of the train will be the same.

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21 мар 2022

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@Chuby123
@Chuby123 2 года назад
Lets appriciate that a guy off of RU-vid with a camera in hand is interviewing the Mayor of London and chatting with the BBC staff who are making content. This is truly the future of content. Passionate individuals making amazing content!
@k.r.baylor8825
@k.r.baylor8825 2 года назад
Hear, hear! YT and passionate bloggers are better curators of real news content than any reporter, who is limited by time, general knowledge, and socio-political restraints in their coverage of niche stories.
@jdc327
@jdc327 2 года назад
@@k.r.baylor8825 Amen!! When you cover too much.....you actually cover too little! 🧐
@user-ki6id4vt8u
@user-ki6id4vt8u Год назад
Future of content? Ain’t even a big deal calm down
@TomCro73
@TomCro73 Год назад
@@user-ki6id4vt8u Needs to become a big deal, very quickly - by scrapping the license fee and de-funding the BBC. The good news is that there's never been a "climate emergency". However, the indoctrination emergency is bad and getting worse.
@noahbowie5985
@noahbowie5985 2 года назад
The buttons are for when the train is standing in a terminus station. It allows the doors to close in order to maintain the interior temperature of the tube trains.
@CasperLCat
@CasperLCat Год назад
I should think there’s also an emergency open btn, in case of fire in a train, say, someone outside can open the doors at a station if the primary system isn’t working ?
@ninjamandalorian
@ninjamandalorian 9 месяцев назад
current tubes have emergency buttons e.t.c. im sure the new ones shall have them too@@CasperLCat
@RogersRamblings
@RogersRamblings 2 года назад
As a former motorman, I was hoping you'd raise the question of where the operator puts his tea mug. Non-specialists have this weird idea that trains run on steam diesel or electric. They don't they run on tea and coffee.
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 года назад
It's down low on the drivers left side.
@ajs41
@ajs41 2 года назад
Excellent point. I hope the front also has another seat for guests.
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 года назад
@@ajs41 Yes for Instructors officially.
@Evan490BC
@Evan490BC 2 года назад
Tea, coffee, and sausage rolls from Greggs, I would add.
@AndrooUK
@AndrooUK 2 года назад
We could always just finally create an autonomous service with platform doors, and no caffeinated beverages being required...
@AnotherBrightIdea
@AnotherBrightIdea 2 года назад
Not a train fanatic by any means but love Geoff’s enthusiasm, presentation and editing!! Awesome stuff!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад
Geoff sharing the train with a BBC Official and has seen the Mayor. Flying with the big leagues 🔥
@GWJUK
@GWJUK 2 года назад
He’s worth far more than those lot for sure.
@john_smith1471
@john_smith1471 2 года назад
He was a local radio reporter, not a bbc official, and the London Mayor has a lot of crime issues to sort out, the nice train stuff is a media distraction, he didnt answer the question about TfL finances, not long ago he said he might have to close a tube line because of funding problems.
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 2 года назад
yes he is.
@k.r.baylor8825
@k.r.baylor8825 2 года назад
Geoff has earned these accolades. He does a more in-depth dive into these topics than any reporter would. Well done, mate.
@JagerLange
@JagerLange 2 года назад
Correction: BBC journos and the Mayor have now shared a train with Geoff Marshall :P
@jun10rW
@jun10rW 2 года назад
In your life, interviewing a mayor can be a huge achievement. As always, love your train videos and I’d watch them anyday. You’ve really made it big as a train you tuber.
@brad5426
@brad5426 Год назад
But interviewing a competent mayor, that's a bigger achievement
@mailjimmygalaxy
@mailjimmygalaxy 2 года назад
Been watching for years and so proud and happy of where you have taken the channel!
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 2 года назад
Thanks Jimmy, very kind! 👍
@ziyad20151
@ziyad20151 2 года назад
I watch this lots of times
@IsmaelR94
@IsmaelR94 2 года назад
I'm not from UK but I was in London in 2019, I really like trains, specially the underground trains, I'm happy to met the 72' and 73' tube stocks, old but I really enjoyed riding on them. I love your content (I also using for improve my English haha, sorry if I made grammar mistakes) Greetings from Spain!
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 2 года назад
i forgot the last time i been to london. I think it was then the older C stocks were still running.
@IsmaelR94
@IsmaelR94 2 года назад
@@davidty2006 I would have liked meet the C and D stocks, I hope come to London this year and visit the London transport museum to see the old stocks 😄
@IlikeTrainsguy100
@IlikeTrainsguy100 2 года назад
@@IsmaelR94 The transport museum is amazing! Finally went for the first time last year as I had a few hours before a theatre show and loved it. Well worth it.
@IsmaelR94
@IsmaelR94 2 года назад
@@IlikeTrainsguy100 I have that visit pending from the last time, I was there only one week and I don't had enough time for plan a visit, but the next time I will go to the museum 100% sure! 😄
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 Год назад
I also went to London in 2019!
@Matsine
@Matsine 2 года назад
I do have to say I really like these new trains. The only thing that makes me a bit sad is that they are replacing the rolling stock on four different lines which means that there will be at least less variety on the underground. But for normal commuters and travellers I really see a big improvement of comfort.
@jonathanbaker3307
@jonathanbaker3307 2 года назад
Hopefully it will make reliability better by making maintenance across fleets a bit easier
@thesteelrodent1796
@thesteelrodent1796 2 года назад
making all the trains the same has the benefit that it's easier and cheaper to keep them running because they all use the same parts. It's less interesting for train nerds, but for the those who keep the trains running it's a quality of life improvement kind of thing
@choppership465
@choppership465 2 года назад
i think they’re gonna replace piccadilly only for a while
@ASLEFshrugged
@ASLEFshrugged 2 года назад
@@choppership465 these will be on the Piccadilly for at least 30 years
@N0N4M30
@N0N4M30 2 года назад
Big improvement of comfort ? Are u mad ? Lol it’s literally no improvement besides maybe the air conditioner 😂
@therealcaldini
@therealcaldini 2 года назад
The smirk on Geoff’s face as he thinks: yeah, I know all this mate! However - when the Met line train is at the terminus at Watford they shut the doors and you need to press the button to open the doors to get on.
@danyskystar883
@danyskystar883 2 года назад
I really appreciate that the look of the trains is not too different from the old ones
@jayzo
@jayzo 2 года назад
My only critique is that the windows make me feel like I'm on a plane with how small they are, but overwise they're gonna be a wonderful addition to London's rail fleets.
@tobygranshaw3359
@tobygranshaw3359 2 года назад
I’m guessing that’s because there is a duct between each window to blow cold air out at head height to cool the commuters; the chiller units are under the seats.
@Desi365
@Desi365 Год назад
Has the same thought
@mzzzzz2179
@mzzzzz2179 Год назад
Agreed!
@eurouc
@eurouc Год назад
Tiny windows, thick door frames and no external ribbon glazing to give a sleeker appearance. A big dud 😒
@a1white
@a1white 9 месяцев назад
@@eurouc it just doesn't look that modern and sleek. Appearances matter.
@nigeltrigger4499
@nigeltrigger4499 2 года назад
Pressing the door button on the Circle/District line air conditioned trains, opens the doors if they have closed to maintain the temperature at a station, but not if they have closed because the train is departing.
@activetraveladvocate
@activetraveladvocate 2 года назад
I think the door buttons are there in case TfL wants to use the feature that S stock uses, namely if no one passes through the doors after a certain period of time (especially at termini), the doors will close to save on heating and cooling costs but passengers can push the button to open them again. Thameslink does that in the core section as well, in that the doors open automatically but if the train is waiting, they'll close automatically if no one uses them after a certain period of time
@scoot889
@scoot889 2 года назад
Also used by staff to manually close and lock doors if they need to empty a train that needs to be taken out of service.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 года назад
Extra necessary since there won’t be any way to reject heat into the tunnels from the air conditioning system, they’ll need to store it to release in the overground sections. Keeping more doors closed more often will reduce how much extra thermal mass they’ll need for said storage, plus of course secondary benefits such as reducing overloads on the thermal loop when the train gets stuck etc.
@MACROPARTICLE
@MACROPARTICLE 2 года назад
I must say, I am truly impressed with the aesthetics of the mock-ups. Very prestigious vibe to them. I was quite underwhelmed with the Bombardier designs in contrast. Although the TfL seat moquette design is a huge disappointment. The one by Siemens themselves looks way more neat and professional in my opinion.
@kauskimkulima2171
@kauskimkulima2171 2 года назад
Not good for tall people
@MACROPARTICLE
@MACROPARTICLE 2 года назад
@@kauskimkulima2171 the same applies to all deep level stock. Then again, have to sacrifice height in order to fit the trains through those relatively small tunnels. And if you manage to secure a seat, that won't be an issue in the first place.
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures 2 года назад
05:00 the buttons are for the Londoners to see who the tourists are!
@cleanycloth
@cleanycloth 2 года назад
The new trains look gorgeous! Hard to believe the Piccadilly trains are nigh on 50 years old, they look decades newer than the bakerloo trains that's for sure...
@agent_605
@agent_605 2 года назад
That’s the power of a good refurb, before the Piccadilly line trains were refurbished in the late 90s their interior was virtually identical to that of the Bakerloo’s, just with slightly more luggage space for Heathrow passengers
@amirdiabe
@amirdiabe 2 года назад
I'd imagine as the Picadilly line picks people up from Heathrow, TfL wanted the trains to be more presentable, to give a better impression of London
@shoutyshouty
@shoutyshouty 2 года назад
Sadly, the Bakerloo line tube stock have been neglected. They were meant to have been replaced after the Piccadilly line so no money had been planned to make them last longer but TfL finances have been hit hard by the pandemic any new trains for the Bakerloo line won't be coming anytime soon.
@PeteS_1994
@PeteS_1994 2 года назад
The ride shows its age though. They look newer because of there refurb that imitated the 95/6 tube stock at the time.
@Chewscore
@Chewscore 2 года назад
Really needs it, looking foward to seeing ATO on the Piccadilly Line! It's going to increase capacity and it's going to be much more comfortable!
@commandocaptain2681
@commandocaptain2681 2 года назад
It will actually be less comfortable, and my bum will be very sore after sitting on that PLANK looking seat for half an hour.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад
But there will be air conditioning
@matthewsmith2787
@matthewsmith2787 2 года назад
There is no ATO coming to the Piccadilly
@sotyfan73
@sotyfan73 2 года назад
@@matthewsmith2787 I think these trains will have ATO option on them. But like other ATO lines it will still need a Driver in the cab to operate.
@stefansoder6903
@stefansoder6903 2 года назад
Because the drivers are crap or what?
@quintuscrinis8032
@quintuscrinis8032 2 года назад
4:50 the buttons are used to lock carriage doors on the S-stock now that the trains have no space between them for a button in the connector section. Also the doors close if a train is sitting at a station (like Watford or Ealing Broadway) to help the Air Con.
@traintrambus
@traintrambus 2 года назад
How wonderful and great for Pic. worker and users. Being a retired member of London Underground staff and working at Cockfosters I am delighted to see these improvements to the trains. It’s a win win situation. Love this video.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 2 года назад
Out of all the places they could had put on their destination screen, they put Cockfosters! Lol great video Geoff and be interesting to see them on service in the future... NTFL could be one of those London Underground versions of a NFT lol
@jacon454
@jacon454 2 года назад
Well it is probably the most common destination for Piccadilly line trains
@Enviri
@Enviri 2 года назад
Siemen train to Cockfosters
@aks713
@aks713 2 года назад
@@Enviri 🤣
@dunebasher1971
@dunebasher1971 2 года назад
00:07 that freaky "breathing" thing that the Piccadilly line moquettes do...
@williamevans6277
@williamevans6277 2 года назад
The new trains look really nice! I can't wait to see them in service!
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 2 года назад
Excellent report Geoff. Don't get see much London news since we 200 miles north to Merseyside from south of the Thames. Be interesting to see how the fit, finish, reliability and performance of these Siemens built trains compares with the Bombardier S7 & S8 stock. If it's been like most of their other trains like the SWT 444s and 450s, they'll work pretty well straight from the box.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад
I remember watching a documentary called ‘Going Underground’ where certain drivers had to go to EBay in order to source parts for trains and I was happy to see the updated Cab.
@dustojnikhummer
@dustojnikhummer 2 года назад
Reminds me of NASA buying old computers on ebay for spare parts as their systems were using 386 ers hardware.
@legend_darkstar
@legend_darkstar 2 года назад
It wasn't the drivers but Tube Lines (private infrastructure company which used to manage some deep level tube lines) had to "scour ebay for the bits needed to keep them going" ;)
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 года назад
@@dustojnikhummer NASA also has some Amigas! Though spare parts for both platforms are thankfully becoming more plentiful due to modern hobbyist versions, though I think NASA had replaced some of them by the time that was actuality!
@joshporter741
@joshporter741 2 года назад
Some great interviews Geoff! Brilliant to see where this channel is growing!
@fallenfossl
@fallenfossl Год назад
I hear it's 9 car trains with 5 bogie and 4 hover carriages. Also we should really note that the new train's air-conditioning filters are going to clean the air of the entire tunnels! It'll be amazing 😍
@malo66
@malo66 10 месяцев назад
I am dubious about the air conditioning, but we shall see.
@christopherbrown3695
@christopherbrown3695 2 года назад
Love the fabric and such a great wee film, thanks Geoff
@kiramanana
@kiramanana 2 года назад
Ah finally. Living on the piccadilly line has been getting boring waiting for these new trains. Cant wait to take them
@dannypaulread1023
@dannypaulread1023 2 года назад
Impressive I live in goole and I would have never thought if my 40 years living here that a big company like Siemens were coming here. Awesome video as always!
@anniesoernym
@anniesoernym 2 года назад
Will Wilson seems like a wonderful bloke! Very enthusiastic 👍🏻 Another great video, Geoff! Thank you!
@JohnTalbot-k6xi
@JohnTalbot-k6xi 2 года назад
Best interview I have ever seen of Seimen’s Will Wilson- he is a very charismatic leader …. takes Interviewer skills to capture that aspect- Great Show
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 2 года назад
Good to see this in Goole. It's always been a bleak location there between the levels and the humber, but the economic life of the place has dwindled for decades as the port declined.
@rjjcms1
@rjjcms1 2 года назад
Sounds like it received a proper kick in the Goolies.
@tmarritt
@tmarritt 2 года назад
My dad is from there, visited recently used to be really bad but somehow its gotten worse. I hope this helps
@markturner1970
@markturner1970 2 года назад
Going to have to keep an eye on Tom's BBC London report to see if Geoff gets a cameo...
@tomsedwards
@tomsedwards 2 года назад
NO CHANCE
@jonah6404
@jonah6404 9 месяцев назад
Lmao@@tomsedwards
@FroZenMemes
@FroZenMemes 2 года назад
1:36 that dirt mound on the left is erm... flattering 😳
@russellgaudin5981
@russellgaudin5981 2 года назад
I enjoy your enthusiasm! Well done.
@joshuaduval9509
@joshuaduval9509 2 года назад
I remember see the these renders back in 2015, it is a huge relief that they are finally going to be made and these trains look superb, this is what London needs right about now.
@smarthome3824
@smarthome3824 2 года назад
Another very interesting London Transport video from Geoff. His enthusiasm is catching.
@lewisgreen2957
@lewisgreen2957 2 года назад
Really enjoyed that! Thanks for posting 😊
@NiXnipe
@NiXnipe 2 года назад
I still remember the ‘new tube for London’ advert from TFL before they unlisted it. It’s nice to see the new futuristic trains become a reality in this video!
@blurds
@blurds 2 года назад
To be fair the "nearly as old as me" joke was pretty hilarious
@margaretgeorge3903
@margaretgeorge3903 2 года назад
Love the video, and the fact that BBC London had to wait! Your so enthusiastic 🤩
@michaeljackson2838
@michaeljackson2838 2 года назад
You have come a long way Geoff. Well done!
@AnthonyFurnival
@AnthonyFurnival 2 года назад
I’ll miss the older trains when they go but I guess all good things must come to an end!
@ReubenAshwell
@ReubenAshwell 2 года назад
Same here, the 1973 tube stock has been one of my favourite tube stocks. And you know, they didn't really feel all that old to me because of how well done the interior refurb they did in the 90's is. :)
@AnthonyFurnival
@AnthonyFurnival 2 года назад
@@ReubenAshwell exactly - at the moment, in the train World Cup on my community page it’s the Bakerloo stick winning - proof people like these older trains!
@AnthonyFurnival
@AnthonyFurnival 2 года назад
@@Adam45695 I have a train World Cup poll on my channel and the older stock is winning hands down over newer underground trains which I think shows the affection people hold for them
@neilmossey
@neilmossey 2 года назад
Brilliant vid thanks Geoff. And wow, you survived the Mayor's extreme politician hand jiving at 9:00 - think you should have had PPE goggles - that could've taken an eye out.
@laurach.5550
@laurach.5550 2 года назад
I love so much your videos of the tube of London :) Really good job for interviewing the mayor of London !
@leonaxlily
@leonaxlily 2 года назад
🥺🫂 you and sadiqs conversation is the most wholesome thing ever
@fluffymitten
@fluffymitten 2 года назад
So excited to see these coming into service. I'm always worried by the way the Piccadilly train doors seem to open before the train has fully stopped! Oh, and yes, do a boats video (please try to get them to extend the operating hours of the RB6)
@FlyingScud
@FlyingScud 2 года назад
I do prefer the original moquette - it has a nice sense of speed and direction.
@RobinWootton
@RobinWootton 2 года назад
If you mean the current moquette - Yes it's more geometric and tasteful. If you mean the first seen above - I agree it was streamlined and modern. Unfortunately and surprisingly the proposed pattern has so such qualities.
@JimmyStewpot
@JimmyStewpot 2 года назад
Thankyou for creating this video. Awesome
@guillaumemaurice3503
@guillaumemaurice3503 Год назад
Thank you for the video, that was brilliant.
@Deanrwp
@Deanrwp 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant video interviewing someone from BBC and the Mayor of London, doesn’t get any better then that! I did however find it rather funny when you asked the Mayor when will Crossrail be opening! Lol 😂
@smyffmawzz
@smyffmawzz 2 года назад
2:45 . It's a mirror Geoff!!
@steveamurray59
@steveamurray59 2 года назад
Well Done, a good insight. Thanks Geoff.
@spidyman8853
@spidyman8853 Год назад
You should see the underground in Berlin. They have modern tubes too like the one in this Vid. Berlin is in my bucket list one day.
@ZenoWatson
@ZenoWatson 2 года назад
They look very similar to the new underground trains that Glasgow got. Great to see investment in manufacturing coming back to the UK!
@the_9ent
@the_9ent 2 года назад
All I can say is “At Last!” These trains will be a great welcome on the Piccadilly line as the current trains are way past their best. Even better they are made in the UK.
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 года назад
50% are made in Germany I believe
@killeranime3591
@killeranime3591 2 года назад
Had well Bakerloo and Central lines if they are added on those lines
@travelswithjess
@travelswithjess 2 года назад
Fantastic video Geoff! Really enjoyed it 👍🏻😀
@MrSeif2001
@MrSeif2001 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this video for really long time
@timsully8958
@timsully8958 2 года назад
Wow, what a facility! And my goodness those are handsome trains, and they look great in the TFL red white and blue 😎 I know he has his critics, but the Mayor had outlined precisely why this is such a great project all round. Why throw money abroad for a cheap deal and line the pockets of those who already have plenty when instead, you can invest in your own country and spread the wealth a bit? I love that this is benefitting people outside of London too 👍 It will be a shame to see those trains go, as I have been using them for 40 odd years. I remember how modern they looked as an 8 year old when o travelled on them for the first time, and how amazing they looked when they were refurbed, but all good things come to an end 🤷🏻‍♂️ One thing that made feel really old was when you talked about replacing the Central line and W&C stock. In my mind they are still ‘new’…but then that’s because in my unconscious mind, 1992 was only about fifteen years ago 😂 Cheers Geoff, great stuff fella 👍🍀🍻
@yoironfistbro8128
@yoironfistbro8128 2 года назад
Seems like everything has a "Star Trek feel now" First the Lumo uniforms, now these trains.
@markwright3161
@markwright3161 2 года назад
'futuristic' rubbish that will be outdated by the time it's made. They won't be getting 50 years of service out of these new trains. Everyone is quick to same they've been long overdue for replacing, but guess what isn't pumped out from stuff being in service for that long, pollution from manufacturing and scrapping, where the vast majority of 'emissions', etc that we're all supposed to be concerned about comes from.
@jackvolpe933
@jackvolpe933 2 года назад
Really cool video Geoff those tube trains are going to look great when they are built and finish testing great too hear that they will be the first tube train model with AC
@SamsVlogstrainsmore
@SamsVlogstrainsmore 2 года назад
About time for some new tube trains! Top video Geoff.
@riddypr
@riddypr 2 года назад
0:06... Was that seat breathing or is it just me? The new Piccadilly line trains look REALLY nice. It'll be very interesting to see what walk-through carriages will be like while going through the tight tunnels (I know District, Circle and H&C all go underground, but the tunnels aren't as small)
@MagicalTrevor3
@MagicalTrevor3 2 года назад
Yes, bizarre shot... please explain, Geoff!
@grahamnicholson1553
@grahamnicholson1553 2 года назад
Air conditioned seats? Surely not...
@johnhowcroft3474
@johnhowcroft3474 2 года назад
@@MagicalTrevor3 It happens sometimes definitely not unusual on Piccadilly, think its just airflow trapped underneath
@morb0yo
@morb0yo 2 года назад
As another comment mentioned, I think it's to do with the air pressure experienced on the tube as the tunnel changes depth.
@RobSpeaking
@RobSpeaking 2 года назад
The new tube trains will be alive and well, now with breathable seats to keep your ass sweat in check.
@wlctransit7593
@wlctransit7593 2 года назад
I was surprised when you said that the new Tube trains were going to be built in their own factory. I almost thought they were going to be assembled at the standard Krefeld, Germany or Vienna, Austria plants. I'm already excited to see the first of these trains undergo testing even if we are just at the mockup stage. :)
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 года назад
I believe half are built in Germany
@TheAsrgrant
@TheAsrgrant 2 года назад
Good to see you Geoff - im a Londoner living LA.I miss the tube....the angel and embankment my old haunts. Cheers
@OhioticketswithRobert
@OhioticketswithRobert 2 года назад
Always interesting seeing the cars as they are designed and the factory.
@bm2489
@bm2489 2 года назад
Great video, love the passion. I think the question we all want to know is if they are going to reduce the journey time? If they can move faster without producing more heat that would be a great improvement
@hrishiv
@hrishiv 2 года назад
The main issue is, the new Tube trains are bring made in Yorkshire, but West Yorkshire still doesn't have a mass public transport system :( living out my dream through London Tube videos until I hopefully come there for uni next year!
@tobygranshaw3359
@tobygranshaw3359 2 года назад
West Yorkshire has West Yorkshire Metro, with Siemens Class 333 trains similar to the Class 332 used by Heathrow Express. ✅ They have Electrified Suburban lines, whereas South Yorkshire doesn’t even have an Electrified Midland Mainline to Sheffield!🥺 Sheffield does have the Supertrams, but try taking a Diesel Pacer train from Retford to Sheffield in February, or from Sheffield to Manchester through the Hope Valley! 🥶 Leeds is promised a Tram network to compensate for the cancellation of the HS2 Eastern Branch. ☺️ Sheffield will finally get an Electrified Midland Mainline too, so Leeds could have a second Electrified route to London alongside the ECML. 🥳
@AwakeTruthSeeker
@AwakeTruthSeeker 2 года назад
Maybe they can have the old Piccadilly Line trains in West Yorkshire when the new ones go into service? 🙂
@hrishiv
@hrishiv 2 года назад
@@tobygranshaw3359 I hope so, it's getting around the city/area e.g. Leeds, Bradford, Wakefield, Huddersfield that's the issue, really does need a mass transit system, probably similar to the supertrams.
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots Год назад
Geoff what a great insight into the future, cant wait to see the new trains in real life
@sonicsophie
@sonicsophie 2 года назад
Wow! I live in Southgate and seeing our fantastic round station and tesla coil on the new moquette is bloody brilliant!!! Can’t wait to see this trains in action
@jeremysmith4437
@jeremysmith4437 2 года назад
Great interview with the Major very professional 👍
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 2 года назад
You said they were going to build half of the trains but you didn't say whether it was the top half or the bottom half.
@MB-wk5lc
@MB-wk5lc 2 года назад
Such good material.I love it!
@ericgriffin6698
@ericgriffin6698 Год назад
Great looking, well done Siemens. !! 😊👍🇬🇧
@NewCityMedia
@NewCityMedia 2 года назад
Great video Geoff. Thanks for letting us see the new NTFL. Love the new moquette. And will look forward to the aircon! However the thing that stood out for me above all else was the small size of the windows. I've got to say that, whilst overall the design of the new train is really neat, I really don't like the small size of the new windows. Makes it look a bit 'old-fashioned', like the former stock on 'The Drain'! But hey, a nice shiny new Tube train at last.
@queenzpimpkid
@queenzpimpkid 2 года назад
These trains are so beautiful compared to my soulless stainless steel trains of New York City. The tube trains have so much character and pop to them
@jeshkam
@jeshkam 2 года назад
Nah, I prefer the classic NYC trains, of course as long as they're not covered in graffiti like in the 1970s and 80s, which was truly disgusting, nothing to do with art whatsoever.
@queenzpimpkid
@queenzpimpkid 2 года назад
@@jeshkam You’re right the older trains were really unique but they’re all retired and almost the whole system of the new rolling stock is dull and almost indistinguishable from one another.
@bahnspotterEU
@bahnspotterEU 2 года назад
Yeah, the MTA‘s “Train of many Colours” is really almost sad, because it shows just how much nicer NYC Subway trains used to be painted. I’d love a modern variation of the light-blue and beige or red and beige to return!
@andrewduong2740
@andrewduong2740 2 года назад
Some of the oldest trains in the London Underground have had full-open gangways, plush seats, logical arrangements, and digital signs since the 90s while the newest trains in Toronto have only now caught up. And even then by far the TTC is one of the better systems in North America. We're clearly falling short
@RHTeebs
@RHTeebs 2 года назад
I'm glad Tom said it went Star Trek-like. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
@lcuk99
@lcuk99 2 года назад
We need a sitcom about Geoff and Tom from the BBC's relationship hahaha. Tom always looks sick to see Geoff but I bet he admires him deep down.
@lillynicholexo
@lillynicholexo 2 года назад
Side note: i love the new like button animation. Gorgeous video
@charlieneill9727
@charlieneill9727 2 года назад
You’ve got yourself a new subscriber! Great video, Geoff
@SH078
@SH078 2 года назад
Great work
@LondonTrainEnthusiastuk
@LondonTrainEnthusiastuk 2 года назад
Can't wait to see these at my local station :)
@koenmeier8553
@koenmeier8553 2 года назад
You have done a lot to inform public about the London transport and uk transport network.
@jfreelan1964
@jfreelan1964 2 года назад
Nicely done, Geoff.
@symy92
@symy92 2 года назад
Two WOW moments -- seeing Geoff interview the Mayor, and air con on the new stock.
@hannahk1306
@hannahk1306 2 года назад
I can think of several reasons for keeping the buttons on doors: - allows them to be opened manually if required, e.g. automatic opening fails or doors have shut when a train is in the station a while - the lights and beeps that accompany them give feedback to customers about the status of the door (sometimes the train may have stopped but the doors haven't unlocked yet or perhaps the doors are about to shut so they do the quick flashing/beeping to warn you) - improves resellability of the trains: if in a few decades TFL want to sell the trains on to somewhere else, that place may want/need manual door opening and it's surely better to not have to try to retrofit them
@honyatwashere
@honyatwashere 11 месяцев назад
Yes and when a train is held (at least on s stock) the doors close
@RVNmax
@RVNmax 9 месяцев назад
Dont see how the button would do anything if there was an opening fail. Anyway, Geoff's point was that the button would as useless as the current ones if they continue to not be be functioned to control the doors. Of course this may not be the case with the new trains with the temperature control. The light indication is nothing to do with actual botton. I agree with potential resale/resuse point, even if the button wont be functional for the tube.
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710 8 месяцев назад
No one is going to buy an old tube train, unless you are vivarail but theyre gone now
@limeyosu2000
@limeyosu2000 2 года назад
So nice that they will be built in the U.K.! Def time we made more products, and create more jobs. Last time I rode on the Piccadilly was 2018 and I was shocked how old the stock is! I swear the train doors said 1968 metro cammel!
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 года назад
Half are built in Germany I believe.
@ce1834
@ce1834 2 года назад
Looks amazing 🤩
@vman2kay
@vman2kay 2 года назад
The buttons are most likely to keep the doors closed unless pressed like some overground trains I guess. Useful when it's cold outside and if you're air conditioning and no one needs to enter or exit from the door, then it will keep the carriage temperature as it is (either cool or warm) without letting the energy escape.
@iandixon2201
@iandixon2201 2 года назад
Door buttons Geoff - if the trains have air-con they are going to automatically close doors after a set period, even if the train is not yet ready to set off. Also if the button is pressed while the door it open it locks the door open for accessibility. I'm sure I learned this from one of your other videos :)
@alanmatthews4050
@alanmatthews4050 2 года назад
Great look at at new Piccadilly trains. Moving up to the big time with the mayor. Lovely to see space for wheelchair, but could not see any space for luggage. This would mean the wheelchair space would just fill up with luggage when coming or going from Heathrow which would be even more difficult to move than people. Perhaps the assumption is that everyone with luggage will be using Elizabeth line to travel from Heathrow by then.
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 года назад
Luggage goes in the drivers cab!
@briwire138
@briwire138 2 года назад
Interesting video, great news for London and East Yorkshire. Those air con units must work hard to cope with all the door openings
@DylanGamez_Offical
@DylanGamez_Offical 2 года назад
OMG it looks absolutely Wonderful
@simoneames9097
@simoneames9097 2 года назад
The mock up looks really impressive. Cool and slick design. As I use the Piccadilly Line at times the 73 Stock maybe old but still modern compared to the elderly but nostalgic 72 Stock trains on the Bakerloo Line. As a stop-gap for a few years until the real new trains arrive redundant 73 Stock units could be transferred to the Bakerloo Line and allow the withdrawal of the 72 Stock.
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 2 года назад
Unlikely to happen because of the Bakerloo's curvature, apparently 🤔
@mjcats2011
@mjcats2011 2 года назад
Cannot be done. The Piccadilly Line cars are longer and the Bakerloo line has a lot of curves.
@tobygranshaw3359
@tobygranshaw3359 2 года назад
@@mjcats2011 How will they get through the tortuous curves at South Kensington when the wheels squeal?
@tobygranshaw3359
@tobygranshaw3359 2 года назад
@@fetchstixRHD But the Mayor clearly stated that NTFL will also be supplied to the Bakerloo & Central Lines. Bakerloo has tight curves at Paddington & Piccadilly Circus, but so does Bank on the Central or South Kensington on the Piccadilly…
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 2 года назад
@@tobygranshaw3359: I’m not particularly technically informed enough to explain the exact issue with the Bakerloo, only quoting what I’ve seen stated elsewhere (though the clarification was about reverse curves). I will make note that: a) without diagrams of the lines, it’s hard to comment on how “tight” curves really are, b) the 67ts (almost similar to 72ts) had no problem fitting in the Piccadilly line tunnels when they needed to get from the Victoria line to Acton, and the NTFL is probably designed around the most restrictive of the deep Tube lines. After all, the 6 car 73ts sets are being replaced with 9 car NTFL sets, which should show how much more flexible the new sets are.
@customtransport2777
@customtransport2777 2 года назад
Excellent video Geoff, I'm really looking forward to these thrilling new trains coming to a place near me in three years and although the old interior layout choice was quite good with maroon poles, the new interior which is very equivalent to the livery of the 1973 Stock is more fitting, as it contains blue poles that rightly matches the colour of the line itself. Here's to hoping that Bakerloo Line will be next in production to receive these new kit
@jonah6404
@jonah6404 Год назад
Bakerloo trains will be staying till the late 30s or early 40s
@jettepaque2771
@jettepaque2771 Год назад
I'm thinking of using the trains for my own line. This video is very good.
@dorissaclaire
@dorissaclaire 2 года назад
Piccadilly is my tube line and I’m so very fond of the old cars. I’ll be quite sad to see them go, I had no idea they were so old!
@tobygranshaw3359
@tobygranshaw3359 2 года назад
I predict problems with luggage blocking doors, and rolling onto the platform at Hounslow East… Those wheelchair spaces will be filled with suitcases by Heathrow passengers… At least the 1973 stock had dedicated luggage bays next to the double doors, with perch seats for peak use.
@PeteS_1994
@PeteS_1994 2 года назад
I’ve noticed newer trains do away with extra luggage bays as they were meant to be wheelchair spaces and on average not too many wheelchairs use the train
@Nick-kz6dg
@Nick-kz6dg 2 года назад
4:14 “This is the final moquette” 🤢🤮
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