The New York Jets FAILED Zach Wilson - Dan Orlovsky | NFL Live 

Seems kind of poetic 😂🤞🏾😮‍💨

That's a good excuse. QBs need blocking, coherent coaching, and at least two receivers and a decent running back.

As a jets fan I’m starting to think maybe the incompetent organization is the problem and it’s probably not fair to just keep blaming the 21/22 year old kids.

except Bway Joe😂

@@anthonykology1728 Joe Willie was coached by Bear Bryant. Nuff said.

The Denver Broncos just stole him for a bag of peanuts in a pick swap; Jets receive the 203rd round pick for Zach Wilson and their 256th pick to Denver. Watch him go lights out for them which shows how shitty the QB Coach in NY is !!! Time will tell. The Jets O line was horrible and couldn’t protect their QB’s to save their life, A. Rodgers Torn Achilles, Mike White, broken Ribs… This was a no brainer for the Broncos with a very, very low risk and High reward scenario plus the Jets are paying over 5M of his salary for 2024 as well lol. Watch the Kid go lights out in Denver, only time will tell but for Denver to receive the 2021 2nd overall pick for a bag of peanuts like the 203rd pick for their 256th pick and Zach Wilson is pure robbery and genius !!! I am a Broncos Fan and no disrespect to the Jets but I am super excited to see where this goes. I still believe we are drafting a QB, but having Wilson for almost nothing was a no brainer for us. 😂🤣😂 💪🎊🍾🫡

I think it's already be proven Hackett is indeed a hack.

I see this working out well for Denver and Hackett looking bad...

Hackett only worked with zach for 1 season...he sucked with the other coordinator as well....

ZW was in the league two years when Hackett came along and he wasn't exactly a #2 pick in his two previous years, either. Hackett did his job, aka, brought in a system for his QB1. It's ZW's fault he couldn't adapt to the system, that is his freaking job. He couldn't do his job and rightfully has found a new home. I wish him well and hope Payton can find something that no one else could but that's a +1 on Payton, not a -1 on Hackett.

@michaelwill7811 exactly...I watched some people within our fanbase make excuses for zach when our other coordinator (Mike lafluer) was with him...mlf left jets for the rams & that offense didn't miss a beat with Stafford as qb...zach got worst each season in the league..kid is no good..I can't even use the rookie defensive minded hc as a excuse nomore for zach because look what Texans hc did last season

I tend to agree.. But... Texans didn't have a good team last year when they drafted Cj.. An they have a defensive minded HC. I think its a combination of both.. The team your going to an how actually bringing in the right qb to your team.

From the best class since 83 to possibly the worst in NFL history! 😀

Man, being a top 5 QB is mostly a bad deal. You are going to bad teams, often with a change of GMs and coaches.

…. For now

@@jedwingChicago is finally set up to actually support 1

@@OutsidetheEchochamber For sure. Justin will do well over there and let's hope Caleb is not a flake. I watched several USC games and I'm not sold on him. Like you said, with those free agents they got and the many draft picks, it's up to the coach, who I also am not sold on. We'll see.

Zach Wilson performed better than every other QB during his time there with the Jets as Aaron Rodgers and Mike White couldn't stay on the field and win games. Joe Flacco WAS SO BAD that no team would call him until 10 games into the season and EVERYONE else was hurt and then Flacco played very well for the Browns and got a nice contract from Indy. Simien? Boyle? Given a chance, he can be good. MVP level I doubt, but a good QB that can lead a team to wins, absolutely

Yes. Mahommes sat for awhile (not sure how many gaimes). Steve Young. Aaron Rodgers. Brett Favre. I'm sure i could think of others as could you. This notion of throw them against the wall and see which ones still is absurd.

​@jedwing explain Stroud then? Every qb is different. Not every single one has to sit. It just depends on the specific player and their situation

@@johnnyjets2343 Stroud came to a team that had a revamped good Oline, very good receivers, and good coaching. All three are difficult to get as a rookie QB.

@@bigdogstatus83 really? because prior to them drafting Stroud and hiring Demeco Ryans, the Texans have been the laughing stock of the league for the past few years.

@@johnnyjets2343 Yeah, but they revamped the team. He had a very good team around him. That always helps. They got even better over this offseason so far. That’s the thing about the NFL, you can go from a mediocre or bad team to a very good to mediocre team in one off season.

He’s had many chances and has a star receiver and did nothing with him. It’s funny all these other 2021 Qbs get excuses besides Trey Lance who only played just 3 games

@@patek9789 The excuses have some validity. Poor coaching and putrid O line were facts for Zach and Fields; and are two things Josh Allen and Mahommes and Lamar Jackson had from day one. Again, as I said, if you're drafted in the top five or ten it's a rocky road unless you luck out like CJ Stroud.

@@patek9789 lol, star receiver who? Garrett Wilson is a number #2 WR not a game changer.

@@thombrowne1014GW is a back to back 1000 yard receiver with all time bad QB play. Will be top 3 with Aaron

@@jedwingWilson had it FAR worse than Fields. It’s not even a comparison. Bears went from a loaded playoff team, to a disaster because of Fields. Fields was so terrible, the Bears were forced to trade away and let Pro Bowl players walk in free agency because the team was dead in the water with Fields. Jets started off in a far worse situation with Wilson than Bears with Fields. Plus Fields got to stink up the field and never once get benched for his garbage play. Meanwhile, the Jets would yank Wilson anytime he made a mistake. It was a disgrace. The Fields and Wilson situations were NOTHING alike.

Enough skill players, but terrible coaches and o-line. It was abysmal and just ruined the kid

@@MarckySportsDenver coaching has nothing to do with throwing the ball high or in the grass.

@@odigomez1787 It definitely does though. There's a reason why he wasn't throwing the ball high or low in college like in the NFL. Coaches and the plays they call can help QB's with mechanics and knowing where to go with the ball.

@@MarckySportsDenver well congrats Denver fan, you have a gem of a QB for basically free.

Chad and Sanchez were just not good. And Geno Smith flourished in Seattle, which is another problem with the Jets: they never know how to develop a player. No one gets better unless you go elsewhere. The trick is to not get worse.

"You're a moron" Chad was very good; unfortunately injuries did him in.

😂😂😂

You must be young. That wasn’t necessary.

Not in the NFL never

doesn't even make any sense

still not as good as your dad

Ikr, people acting like he was just a bystander in being terrible 😂

Well said

Yeah he's a great motivator as he's screaming and berating players on the sidelines.

Funny, Payton looks like a bully of a coach who demoralizes players and has somehow "fallen up" on the backs of great players like Brees, through luck. The Broncos are doomed to mediocrity for a long time.

@@edwardsjohnpaul Brees was a bust before Payton made him elite

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Not true the Jets had weapons! Wilson & hall

​@edubb1luv100 yes that true but when you have a struggling OC , Ol, and Qb that not really a recipe for success. two weapons dnt win youcant compensate for that much struggles

@@Dcb897 true

About to? He's constantly been defending mediocre quarterbacks.

Sure they did. They had a rookie 35 year old OC. Didn't have a veteran QB. Every other QB who got on the field was worse. Not even a 4-time MVP or a Super Bowl MVP. Remember Joe Flacco couldn't move these Jets and couldn't get an offer, then got the Browns to the playoffs. But with the Jets he was awful. Noticing a trend?

@@richardprescott5939 I disagree that every QB during his time with the Jets did worse. Anyway, I hope he has success in this league and I think he will.

@@mizzo9 Well I guess the logical question is who did better? Why not share?

@@richardprescott5939 Mike White? Flacco had some big passing yards, Trever won. They were all backups for a reason. Look, I was a Zach Wilson fan. I rooted for him and I’m still rooting for him to have success.

@@mizzo9 THEY DID. Trevor beat the Skins (almost blew that game with his pick 6) and then the Pats with 177 from Breece Hall in the last 2 games. He was still awful. Mike White also got the Bears and Vikings the year before. Lost to the Vikes with2 INT's. Played one good defense the following week and got knocked out. ALL of those QBs had similar QB ratings. Zach WON games for them. Flacco COULDN'T EVEN GET A JOB OFFER last year based on his work with the Jets. Then when there was literally no one else, Cleveland gets him and he moves their offense. He was freed from the awful Jets offense. When you watch the games, there aren't these wide open players out ther very often. You don't have time, you don't have a running game that gets you in decent down and distance. Zach had NO CHANCE here.

Remind me who Denvers top receiver and rb are again? Last I checked, they didn't have a good Oline either and are the worst in the afc west.

they produced another draft bust. The Jets always suck at drafting a decent qb.

@KadeemG61 yup, it's not always that they "ruin them." it's that they always seem to draft the wrong players.

They failed him by getting him an elite wr, great running back and top tier defense? A good qb would've had those Jets teams in the playoffs every year

@@johnnyjets2343 Not Good would be a huge improvement

He asked for that Jonah Jameson haircut aka Spider-Man’s boss at the daily bugle

Facts. And throw in substandard coaching and weapons that shoot blanks (by the time the other Wilson showed up it was too late).

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The Bengals had one of the worst olines and Burrow got sacked more than any qb in the nfl in 2021... he still balled out and went to the super bowl. That's what a good qb does

@@AdamB34 When they have a good coach and one of the best receivers in the game. And Dee Williams, another very good receivers. BTW how is he doin'? I have heard much the last two years.

@@jedwing who? Burrow? Well his coach was 6-15-1 and on the verge of getting fired until Burrow saved his job, so you got that wrong. And Burrow was a pro bowler and 4th in mvp voting in 2022 so you also just proved you're a casual by saying you haven't heard anything from him in years 🤣

When a player fails on multiple teams with multiple coaches then he's the problem, not literally everyone else lol

@@AdamB34 so what about same team different coaches? Alex Smith had how many different HCs & OCs in his time with 49ers? Same with a lot of top drafted QBs that failed

@@farquadshmoogle9120 Alex Smith was a 3x pro bowler with a 99-67-1 record. He didn't fail on every team with every coach. Even in San Fran he had a winning record and made the playoffs

@@AdamB34 what was he his 1st 5 seasons with 49ers?? I will assume before Harbaugh came??? 2-5, 7-9, 2-5, 5-5, 3-7. He started winning with Harbaugh, & became a pro bowler with Andy Reid. Look at his 1st 5 seasons, most teams would've thrown him away, & others only pick him up as a back up.

@@farquadshmoogle9120 🤣🤣🤣.... you're literally proving my point. He DIDN'T FAIL WITH EVERY COACH ON EVERY TEAM LIKE THE QBS YOU NAMED

Year in year out. Season after season.

​@@jedwinginjuries year in and year out. Context is huge.

And with Wilson, the worst QB.

@@johnnyjets2343 True dat. Bad luck with moves that I approved of like the players signed and drafted. They need to figure out their conditioning coaching situation. There's this woman who is the conditioning coach at Tampa Bay and they do well in avoiding injuries. Luck is certainly part of it but this is something we need to look at.

@@jedwing metlife turf doesn't help either

That’s foolish. Just because he wasn’t gd doesn’t mean that he’s not a great analyst of the position. That’s just an unnecessary low blow in your part.

What did you do in the league?

Don't do Dan like that. He's good at what he's doing.

Birds of a feather 😂

What have you accomplished? It’s like if you were mid at ya job but defending another mid like stfu

Funny how no one has this energy for Perkins lmao. He criticizes Jokic when his career average was 5 points a game

@@sakaonsaka394 I’m still at my job so better than orlvosky did in the NFL

Bet on it: Zach Wilson runs out the back of the end zone next season 😂😂

no QB has a chance to succeed with the Jets organization. Be real.

@thombrowne1014 we better not see Rodgers take them to the playoffs if that's the case. But I believe we will.

Jets have literally increased wins every year Saleh has been the HC. Try again…

@@jeremymoore3884 I never said anything about wins lol, the organization is still trash, the coaching staff is still trash, their ability to draft offensive players outside of Garrett is non existent, and they still don’t have an offensive line. The jets have not improved, but Zach as an individual player has

@@kyloren-cd8dk So weird that they can draft a tackle at pick 10 who will be on the bench most of the year…but they have no line… You stated “the jets didn’t improve at all” but the record has gotten better each year…. So Breece Hall is trash? AVT is trash? Xavier Gipson is trash? Jeremy Ruckert is trash? Sheesh…go back to Madden my guy…

You missed the point. They never allowed him to show you that he’s his best self. He was supposed to sit and learn. The Jets never did that.

@TheHighlanderprime Lol. You missed the point. He was the second pick of the draft. At best...he is a decent Practice Team QB. He was drafted...because his parents are friends with Woody. There is nothing he has that will allow him to grow. He panics

Yup 🤮

Dan gave you legitimate provable reasons; and you call him an apologist. He’s 100% correct here about the Jets failing to groom ZW.

That not true last year when Zw imploded he was on greeny show. Him and Ryan Clark literally torn into Zw. Dan may say things here there that dnt agree with but to a point and extent the Jets did themselves or Zw any favors

Zach has shown zero mental toughness, undervalued trait for a QB. Fields has that in abundance. Zero complaining, always takes responsibility, and from the beginning of college (dissed by Georgia, ballin' out at Ohio State, getting up from a dirty helmet hit that broke ribs and throwing 4 TDs in beat Trevor Lawrence/champion Clemson) to running around in Chicago, only to be sent away when the things were looking up, stepping up to the challenge. Ability, arm strength, making the throws, yadda yadda, are great but handling adversity and bad situations is paramount.

The end of an error, literally!