The Next Generation of French Cleat Locking Systems

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French Cleats are an old technique, but with today's technology we can make them even better. Here is a great way to combine a locking addition by using a 3D printer. BUT you can also make this upgrade using wood too. So join us in making your tool holder even better.
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@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thanks so much for the shout out Clinton!!! Great job showing everyone how to make a wooden version. Much appreciated!

@SpecificLove7 Год назад

Glad to do it Bob, it is definitely a great idea.

@stephenmobley8724 Год назад

Great work Bob! Thanks for the sharing Clinton!

@CyberBobCity Год назад

@@stephenmobley8724 thank you sir!

@Andrew_Sherman Год назад

This is awesome! One of the best lock systems I’ve seen!

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thanks much!

@MapBot11 Год назад

I like this idea a lot, but would probably make it more like a cam lock clamp, rather than flat on the top, just to lock it in tight.

@jp9403 Месяц назад

I thought this was already basically like a cam lock. What's the difference

@MapBot11 Месяц назад

A cam lock would apply more pressure the more it was turned in. This is basically just a spacer block that rotates in and out of position.

@pteddie6965 Год назад

This is a great idea and you did an excellent explaining it. Thanks for the video.

@briconicomakerswitzerland Год назад

Interesting and very useful. Thanks for sharing. Best regards from Switzerland.

@MauroCippitelli_MTB 2 месяца назад

The greatest idea ever for french cleat!!!! Genius! I'll copy soon

@Erosgenuino 4 дня назад

Muy ingenioso y soluciona un problema en el taller, me encanta.

@claudiomenesesc Год назад

Never seen it before, thanks for sharing.

@markduggan3451 Год назад

Great little idea.

@joshhuggins Год назад

I keep seeing a lot of people ragging on this saying just screw it to the cleat, but many people have storage bins and other items in a French cleat system that you want to remove from the wall on a regular basis. These type of quick locks are nice so you can remove a bin or something quickly to your project location without the need to unscrew and rescrew in, stripping out a hole over time for a screw.

@dmyt58 Год назад

make a hole just under the vertical plank and put a bolt with a nut in there. Boom cant go up, just unscrew it if you want to change it and it wont fall from the wall anymore. Also you wont strip anything since there is no screw in the wood. This video idea takes way to long to make for its purpose.

@mikep3813 Год назад

@@dmyt58 Wouldn't unscrewing it require a tool? If it is something you take off the wall and put back quite frequently a no tool locking mechanism would be much more convenient. And if you 3d print them, press play and walk away. Even the wooden ones he made are not complicated and you can knock out a couple dozen in like 15 minutes.

@andyfunke9484 Год назад

Huh? I made these for my french clear holders twenty years ago from scrap wood. I probably should have patented it back then. Lol.

@WOLFENDRACUL Год назад

Simple and cleaver thanks! Sms thanks for the verse!

@ikust007 Год назад

Sincerely appreciate your work . Cheers mate

@tomhofmann5277 Год назад

Love it! Thanks for publishing

@elizabethbeers9274 Год назад

This is a great idea. Most of my tool holders are heavy enough they don't need to be locked, but I'm about to make a bunch for my garage, where the tool will greatly outweigh the holder. This locking device should make them secure yet still portable....screwing them in the wall defeats the purpose of a French cleat!

@NWGR Год назад

Very clever! I like this a lot.

@ragincanadiangmail Год назад

I feel like the wood version could have a finger hold cut into it on the bandsaw... I'm going to try this right now.

@alohaIslandersLuau Год назад

Love your easy fix!!!

@kevink9646 Год назад

This is a great video and solution for somebody looking to make some “perfect”. For me and considering it’s a tool wall in my garage I typically go the route of just putting a screw through the face of the holder at a height that the screw itself will provide the hold down on the back side, just under the wall French cleat (it doesn’t actually thread in to the French clear on the wall, just below it). If I need to move it I just back out the screw- easy.

@n8sot Год назад

Thanks to Bob!!! super great idea!!! Thanks to SLC for the video!!! Now I really want to do some french cleats!!

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thanks Brian!

@DanaOredson Год назад

Nice. Very simple. Nice work to you and Bob.

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thank you!

@ericrickert3045 Год назад

I love this!

@MrKYT-gb8gs Месяц назад

Brilliant idea. thanks.

@brennantruitt2409 Год назад

I love your French Cleat videos because you just seem to always have the best cleats. I would love to see a shop tour to just see how you have your space setup because it seems like you have a lot of experience with this system.

@SpecificLove7 Год назад

Thank you very much. I will keep that in mind for the future.

@qmoonwalker3847 Год назад

Brilliant!!

@northeastcorals 2 месяца назад

Printing these out now!

@labsquadmedia176 Год назад

Thanks! A great addition. Thanks to Bob, too.

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thanks for the kudos!

@steveposey8446 Год назад

Awesome, thanks 😊

@p.a.4488 Год назад

Good on you guys.

@marting.7564 Год назад

Very good idea.

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thanks!

@Alex138bhp Год назад

Nice idea.

@ericlesage980 8 месяцев назад

Merci ❤

@dlong966 Год назад

Love your videos.

@sofiatgarcia3970 Год назад

I worked as a cabinetmaker for 35 years and have never seen this idea. Though I don't recall having a significant problem with the hanger coming off when removing a tool from a French cleat, I can certainly see the benefit of the idea. Good video, thanks.

@essextwo Год назад

This vid was far more valuable than I originally thought. Def a concern of mine. Thx 🙏

@Esiddik Год назад

Bob should sell this! Well done sir !

@CyberBobCity Год назад

I will have an Etsy store up soon!

@jimf.625 4 месяца назад

Brilliant!

@Tonyous Год назад

Nice!

@libertarian1637 Год назад

I like simply using a T-nut on the inside and a machine screw from the outside which sits right at the bottom of the cleat; it’s quite a cheap fix and can be even cheaper with just a wood screw going through though the T-Nut allows the screw to be removed and re-installed more times. I don’t find myself moving things around a cleat wall enough for these though keeping things from popping off is a must for smaller holders.

@mailmusic Год назад

an off set wood circle works well also

@kettch42 Год назад

Seems like it could still lift forward from the bottom, even if it fixes the lifting up problem. You could make a double french cleat, that is, inset the lower part of the rail so the lock slides behind the rail, similar to how the top locks in. Also, I imagine the screw will unwind eventually. If it was worth the effort, you could use inset bolts with lock nuts to hold the locking lever in.

@521farmer 6 месяцев назад

Howdie awesome thanks for sharing your thoughts on this ya got my attention and vote ya dont have to be a rocket scientist to understand this and ya dont need fancy tools to make this work so ya got this from Canada 🇨🇦 SK later keep it up 😊

@caper58 4 месяца назад

French cleats are great for determining the ideal placement location of stuff but once you find it a home, it generally stays put. That's why I just put a drywall screw that's long enough to go through the holder and into the cleat.... On that rare occasion it needs to move, you're just one screw away from making it happen. Or if you don't have anything else to do.... you can play waist-a-day making and then installing all of these little holder gadgets😵‍💫

@Ceen328 4 месяца назад

Nah, I need my cleat wall flexible, so that when I want to buy new toys, I don't say to myself 'man, I would love to have new toys, but my cleat wall is fixed'. 🙃

@zbnmth 3 месяца назад

Haha so you play waste-a-cleat-wall instead

@RCdiy Год назад

Nice. How about velcro or felt and sandpaper? But the wood version is awesome.

@heystarfish100 Год назад

I think this device is ingenious. I’m glad I found this video in my feed today. Now Subscribed. Thanks. 😎👍

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Thank you!

@inspiringbuilds Год назад

Agreed and can't beat a free template.

@gregpreston7301 Год назад

Good content as usual Clinton. Just a couple thoughts as I was watching... You should try one rounded on both sides. It would need a flat part on the top to prevent it 'rolling over but it would make it universal. Alternatively I wonder if you just countersink your homemade version on both sides if it wouldn't also be reversible? Would work especially well with your screwy (pun intented) handle. Thanks for the info. I appreciate all you do.

@SpecificLove7 Год назад

That is a great idea with countersinking both sides to make it universal. Definitely thank you for the suggestion.

@PikkaBird Год назад

@@SpecificLove7 That was my first thought, and this would enable you to just batch out a whole bunch of these without planning your layout in advance. Bob can redo his 3D printed version to have the same functionality if he ditches the deep hole and has a countersink (or even just a shallow recess for flat head screws) on both sides and replaces the paddle with a hook.

@David.M. Год назад

This is brilliant. Thanks

@dennisschickling2249 Год назад

Nice Work. Thanks for the info. And Thank you also Bob. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸 # BOB'S YOUR UNCLE.

@JonathanWinterflood Год назад

Nice solution, but an even simpler tool-less lock would be a piece of dowel straight through the holder, just make it long enough that it sticks out a bit when fully pushed against the wall, so it can be pulled back easily (and maybe turn a small integrated handle on the end if you're feeling fancy) Advantages: no need to have access to the side of the holder to remove it, much simpler to make

@leblancexplores 5 месяцев назад

Another example… your workshop is in a cargo trailer 🙂

@grbggaming6885 Год назад

I just run a countersunk screw through the holder into the cleat. Very simple if you don't have time for this

@CyberBobCity Год назад

I prefer not to put holes in my cleats. But everyone is different!

@mikep3813 Год назад

If you're gonna take the time and spend the money to build it, you might as well take the time to keep it looking nice.

@DJWildBillSC Год назад

Nice. I was thinking about French Cleats but was worried they would fall off this saves that worry

@lincolndickerson1293 Год назад

First, I can see that a firm stop locking system can be useful on some cleated tool holders. And this is a really good one. Thanks for sharing. Second a french cleat tip: I had one tool holder that was more of a rattler than a complete disengage which was a little annoying. I put one coat of flex seal the back of the holder effectively rubberizing it but not on the cleat itself. This solved my rattle problem but didn’t impede my ability to move my tool holder around without an extra step working with or around a locking mechanism. Third, also a french cleat tip: I have the bottom of my wall cleats at 45° as well. Again easy enough to move a tool holder when needed but makes it more resistance to accidental cleat ejection. 😃

@ashokmoghe8035 Год назад

Not sure I understand the third tip. Can you please elaborate more on that? TIA

@lincolndickerson1293 Год назад

@@ashokmoghe8035 I’ll try Typically: the wall cleat has a 45° cut on the top and the bottom is flat and the tool holder cleat is flat on the top and the bottom is at a 45° My cleats wall and tool cleats are the same height. The wall cleats are spaced one cleat height apart. All the cleats are cut at a 45° angle top and bottom so they are parallelograms. So when you slide the tool cleat into the wall cleats it fits into the wall cleats touching 2 wall cleats, the one above and the one below. The tool holder must be slide in and out at at 45° angle. I hope youtube keeps the formatting in this next part in tact: w is wall wc is wall cleat tc is tool cleat like any french cleat wall the tool holder is attached to the tool cleat and can span multiple wall cleats with or without additional tool cleats above top cleat w| / | w| / | w|/ | w||wc| w||wc| w||wc| w||wc// | w|| // | w|| //tc| w|| //tc | w| //tc | w|//tc | w||tc | w||tc | w||tc | w||tc //| w||tc // | w||tc// | w|| // | w|| //wc| w||//wc | w||/wc | w||wc// | w|| // | w|| //tc| w| //tc | w| //tc | w|//tc | w||tc | w||tc | w||tc | w||tc //| w||tc // | w||tc// | w|| // | w|| //wc| w||//wc | w||/wc | …

@jakebastian6726 Год назад

Hi. Given your skills and experience with tools, can I get your advice for a drawing I'm working on. It's four men building a shack

@SpecificLove7 Год назад

Thank you but I may not be the best for that project.

@jakebastian6726 Год назад

Oh. Well do you know what tools are often used on a wall, besides electric drill? Or what roofers uses besides hammers?

@dave_ecclectic Год назад

My town library has a 3d printer. Check to see if yours does then you can design your own, download these job specific free ones or go to a free site and shop.

@woodwaker1 Год назад

3D printers have become very reasonable - some under $200 - you might want to look at what you can do with them. I used to be a woodworker, now pretty much just 3D printing.

@dave_ecclectic Год назад

@@woodwaker1 My brother has one that is sitting 3 feet from me. I might use it for making lost plastic casting in aluminum or brass Or simply for the pattern in sand casting... but I don't like Plastic. I prefer wood or metal.

@woodwaker1 Год назад

@@dave_ecclectic I agree that metal is much better for many things. I have printed some structural parts from plastic and they can be surprisingly strong. The speed of prototyping and low cost of material is amazing.

@petem6503 Год назад

I did an entire wall (4' x 8') of FC, and it does hang a lot of stuff. However, the FC concept is justified by the flexibility of moving things around. I built my wall about 8 years ago (you see what's coming, right?!) and haven't moved anything yet. I find 1/2" plywood over drywall makes an excellent mounting wall. Whatever support device you conceive, mount it on 1/8" oversize backer board, and hang it on two or three keyhole'd screw locations. It's easy to remove, largely "fastened" for security, and the backer board gives you a template for screw locations if you want to rearrange locations of support devices. That's proven (for me) much more flexible than cleats.

@surlycanadian Год назад

I’m going to be doing the vagabond thing with a motorhome in a few months and I’m going to gut and convert a 24ft travel trailer and turn it into my towable, wanderer’s wood shop. so I’m going to need a locking French cleat system to prevent things jumping off the cleats on bumpy roads, but one that also resists sliding in case I have to slam on the breaks my tools don’t all slide along the cleat wall towards the front. I’m thinking a number of different things, including a 45 on the bottom of each wall cleat as well as the top, and slot in the forward plate of each holder with a thumbscrew or star knob that can be loosened and tightened,releasing and locking a mating piece hard up against the 45 on the underside of the wall cleat. Perhaps that mating finger will have a high friction anti-skid piece of material glued to its 45. It’s going to be fun to workshop it.

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Sounds really interesting Cole!

@robertharris5025 Год назад

I have a question: How big is your workshop?

@SpecificLove7 Год назад

About 9'x35'

@kfayayay2674 10 месяцев назад

It falls off just because you did not properly designed you Jig. For light tools, I always add a piece of wood as a blocker at the back, with 0.5cm space for easy release. As simple as that.

@jpp37229 4 месяца назад

Same, I do it for all of them, because they are also the support for the back and making them hanging flat against the wall. Also jigs are not finished without that piece of wood at the back

@Mr_Rick Год назад

What would be wrong with putting a simple screw from the front, on center, near the bottom.

@SpecificLove7 Год назад

I would most likely take longer to lift off and replace the holder when needed.

@Mr_Rick Год назад

@@SpecificLove7 How long could it take to back out a screw enough so it clears the rail and lift off. Pretty simple.

@Not_TVs_Frank Год назад

@@Mr_Rick One of the reasons to go with French cleats is that you don’t need any tools to hang or rearrange the holders. So you _can_ add a screw - heck, you can screw right into the cleat and make them semi-permanent. I love this addition because it lets you lock in the bracket and remove it tool-free. I never thought I’d rearrange my French cleats as much as I do and I have come to really appreciate the ease with which I can put things within reach for today, then swap them out for the next project. I don’t want to add even small barriers to that.

@Mr_Rick Год назад

@@Not_TVs_Frank I have used French cleats for years. I have 44 four foot shelves in my garage. Some are 8", 12", and 18" deep. Every shelf has trusses on each end and a stiffner down the center underneath. They've been there for seven year with no change. A locking mechanism to keep them on the wall can be simple. IMO, a screw will do.

@pumafide1 Год назад

Why not use a French cleat on the back

@ilyam.1872 Год назад

I'm sorry but... Why not just extend this locker thing down past screw, so you could just push it there, instead of pulling small pin/flag thing? That would be much more comfortable and you could operate it even in mittens.

@SandyFunnies Год назад

Bob Butterworth? My last name is Butterworth.

@CyberBobCity Год назад

Nice to meet you!

@SandyFunnies Год назад

@@CyberBobCity Same here. Not too many Butterworths around.

@peterk3474 Год назад

Interesting. But honestly, a strong pass. Just my opinion. No worries.

@mrniusi11 Год назад

seriously. Could just counter sink a screw...

@jstsumguy29 Год назад

Anyone ever told you that you’re a squirrelly little fella?

@bradsnedeker3833 Год назад

At first I thought to myself "Has this guy never heard of screws before? 1 screw and your holder is locked in...remove screw, unlocked! But then I saw a BUNCH of screws holding his cleats to the wall so now I'm just terribly confused!

@kubamoos2852 Год назад

This is probably the most clickbait title on your channel.

@pietjepuk9575 Год назад

I guess you think you invented hot water? been doing that for years 🥱🥱🙄🙄👎👎👎👎👎👎

@nmsgoncalves Год назад

exactly... nothing new

@twilocki Год назад

You could just screw the holder into the French cleat. Come on Guys this is just silly and adds work.

@nolanhitchens Год назад

Some people enjoy the work itself though, unnecessary as it may be :)

@mikep3813 Год назад

If you are a person who removes holders from the wall or rearranges things once in a while you're not gonna want to have to grab a drill every time and then add extra holes into the cleats themselves. If people are going through the trouble of making tool specific holders for a French cleat wall, adding 2 minutes to the build isn't a big deal.

@jsmith629 Год назад

dislike

@themagiccoasterlover Год назад

Absolutely pointless. If you're going to go this far, just mount the tool holder directly to the wall. 99% of people who setup a French cleat system don't move anything once it's all setup. Total waste of time.

@brianpemberton5687 Год назад

93.4% of statistics are made up on the spot. Also, you're probably really fun at parties. I guess these cleat keys are for that 1% you consider pointless.

@DarkStars9 Год назад

Actually I did a permanent version of this where i screwed a board across a holder for my microjig that had a tendency to fall off knowing that I could only ever slide this in. I wish i had thought of this instead since its a lot more versatile.

@baraksinz2937 Год назад

Just because it’s totally pointless to you doesn’t mean it is for “99%” of French cleat users. Leave the guy alone! I, for one, appreciate the ingenuity.