The Next Tournament of Power: The Other Universes 

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The fact that Ribrian got more screen time than Hit in the anime was an absolute crime.

Just from the thumbnail alone i was confused but i forgot, Belmod would've already stepped down as G.O.D with Toppo taking his place

could be just me but i think it'd be nice if frost got cooler's 5th form as it could not only be really cool looking but it would also make frost a bulkier and harder to move fighter

I feel like Hit would train with Vados, with Champa sparring with him from time to time. Vados can rewind time among lord knows what else so it would work from that aspect. Plus them knowing Goku, Vegeta and Jiren among others are out there, would be the motivation.

That ending with the Erased Universe’s rebelling against Zeno and the Grand Priest that Carthu was talking about has already been made into a great fan-manga called Dragon Ball Kakumei, UnRealEntGaming has it on his channel and the art and storytelling is actually beyond good

Kinda off topic but I feel like exploring the other universes would be a nice way to introduce characters that we already know but with a new look and history like Janemba,Tapion,Pikkon etc

I think it’s out of character for Vegeta to separate Kefla. He’d rather fight her head on. Or anybody for for that matter. Moro was a special case because he was constantly absorbing energy from the earth and other people. That’s why we haven’t seen him use it since the Moro arc.

The next tournament of power seems to be Vegeta's time to shine with forced spirit fission he probably is the ace of Universe 7 this time which goes in hand with his Ultra Ego.

Vegeta learning forced spirit fission is him finally saying “no more bullshit, we settle this with fists.”

Even with with force spirit fission I honestly see Vegeta using it only as a last resort because his Saiyan pride wouldn’t let him take such a easy way out unless he was all out of options

The thing with Forced Spirit Fission is I don't think it works on beings without spirits. So, for Agnilaza, maybe he can be separated into Paparoni and Koichiarator, but no more. Also, after the ToP, Universe 3 could send interuniversal spies and develop something more like Cell or the Androids.

I see what Carthu did with Belmod since toppo is gonna be the next God Of Destruction. I’m so excited to watch this Edit after : I personally think that Vegeta is the most useful fighter in universe 7

That idea with the 6 previously erased Universes rebelling sounds extremely interesting! It wouldn’t really work though, as Zeno would just be able to erase them all again. Except if there was a force behind that rebellion which would delay or prevent the erasure. I’ve always asked myself where the Grand Priest came from, and after reading about an extremely powerful Namekian who would be the “god of creation” of the multiverse I had come up with an idea: At the start of multiverse, there were 5 primordial beings that came to be with it. One was destruction (Zeno), one was creation (that would be the Namekian) another would be Time, next is Order (which I personally think is the Grand Priest, as he does practically everything for the Omni King) but the last one is the most interesting. I named that one Entropy, born to be everything and nothing, something which’s presence creates chaos and provokes change. There was a fight between these primordial beings, as the others tried containing Entropy so as to prevent the complete disorder it would surely bring. Being split up with the creation of the universes, it would be completely locked away with parts of it being destroyed by Zeno. But bringing back those 6 universes might awaken it.

Can’t wait to see vegeta ultra ego

Toppo punching Frieza with a Tom Cat scream was funny and so disrespectful 😅

Am i the only one laughing at belmods face he looks like if ussop and buggy did the fusion dance

I could see Freeza trying to recruit people from the other universes like 13-18. Because of his interest in controlling Broly, but failing to find him, could lead him to resort to finding other powerful warriors in other universes and enlisting their help.

Omg the tournament getting interrupted would be soooo fire 😭

But there's one thing that there is still left to consider: prep time. Every universe only had so much time to find mortals that could compete in T.O.P. That increases with significance when you take into consideration the size of each universe (which is massive). With a lot more time, the gods of each universe could find, and train, better mortals than they did before.

Can't wait!

I think spirit fission would work on piccolo , but only for defusing nail , as piccolo and kami were originally one being

The thumbnail in my head: 🥶🤡🌳

It's cool to See Frost getting some shine in the Thumbnail

Something that would be interesting wold be learning about a hipotheticall U6 Buu. I mean, U6 and U7 are twin universes after all.

I'm interested in the Demon who killed Jiren's master. Maybe he's still out there and stronger than Jiren? Also, SSJ Blue U6 Saiyans, Golden Frost, and a Magetta with better nerves would be amazing. And the Trio of Danger could actually use their poison next time!

That distinction about mortal levels at the start was very needed. I've seen too many people who think that U1, 12, 5 and 8 must be stronger just because they didn't have to compete in the tournament.

Here's a few ideas 1) zeno probably won't make the same stipulations, meaning they won't make the losing universes disappear. So assuming the universes 13-18 are not actually brought back due to too much time passing already (which I believe was a point made in early dbz when trying to revive people with the dragon balls) zeno can make a tournament between universe 7 and the others that did not have to compete leaving out the others that already competed. Making the prize a wish again, but giving each universe their own reason for absolutely needing to gain that wish. 2) universe 2 now that they know their androids weaknesses takes inspiration from 17 and 18. They train a fighter, or fighters, modify them as androids but somehow use God energy or even angle energy to create them making the one fighter or a team of fighters as strong or close to that of a god of destruction. This could make one of the fighters go mad from the power creating a universal threat that other universe's end up teaming up to defeat. Making them the universe to worry about. 3) universe 6 becomes unstoppable because champa in order to beat beerus takes in and trains the saying personally along with frost. An idea I like is Champa finds a place like freeza did similar to the hyperbolic time chamber and allows them all to jump in power. I would like to see caulifa and cabba reach ssjb. Kale evolves her rage form to match broly's. Frost to reach gold at least (or the same level as gold, whatever color he uses). The namikins do some ancient training after the tournament now they have time, something that helps their power to grow so they both at least can match piccolo. Maybe replacing some members now they have more time to look for strong fighters, and their trump card would be hit. For him he explores his time power, but instead of rewinding time, he is able to cast a fastfoward on people, with limits like maybe only one person or 2 to 3 people at a time so that the person will gain the potential power he would have had in the future if he kept growing at the speed their bodies are use to. This would take a toll on hit, but someone like caulifla could potentially reach vageta ultra ego form this way and cabba could reach higher levels then ssjb2 and frost could reach freeza black or platinum form. Just a few ideas, let me know if any of these are good ones.

You know who might improve much it is hit.he can improve his time skip so it makes me wonder what he can do in the next t.o.p

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Loved the video, so worth the wait 🐐

The Next Tournament of Power: The Other Universes

Something I always thought about would be the G.O.D. and Angels taking initiative to get their mortals on the same level as the ones from universe 7. Since each universe has These gods it seems reasonable that they could train their fighters in a similar that whis did with Goku and Vegeta, or how the Kai's Trained gohan for a mystic form. Meaning by the next T.O.P. we could see other universes have fighters with God Ki, or even with their own version of Ultra Instict or Ultra Ego (Imagine Ultra Ego Toppo, Ultra Instict Dyspo, And Potential Unlocked Jiren).

Something I've considered regarding a second tournament that includes the previously erased universes 13-18 is that there could be an interesting rule change for the second tournament: Universes doubling up as larger teams. This could mean for example that instead of being enemies again, Universe 6 ends up becoming Universe 7's allies since they are pair universes. Another thing to consider is that the teams might not be the same. Some universes might introduce new characters who have managed to grow stronger than the characters they've replaced since the last tournament, and some familiar characters such as Jiren may simply decide to drop out, forcing someone else to take their place. Keep in mind that in Jiren's case, the only reason he entered to begin with was because he wanted the wish for selfish reasons. He has moved on from that selfish desire, so the only reason he would return would be for the sake of teamwork. That depends strongly in how far along he's come in regards to that character arc however, and he may simply still see his universe ending as its natural fate should it fail to be defended, or he could be unconcerned with losing due to believing the same wish as last time would come to pass again. Take also into consideration if the doubled up teams idea comes to pass, which could trim down the number of fighters from each universe in half anyway.

Bro just described Kakumei at the end there

I wonder if Vegeta would even use Forced Spirit Fission, with his pride and all. I can see him not using it to make a fight more interesting (or maybe because the T.O.P. is about survival, he wouldn't use it to let his opponents have a better fighting chance). However, I can also see him using it and telling his opponents that they should fight him using their own strength. 🤔

What if they gave frost cooler's 5th form bringing that into canon like how they brought the legendary super saiyan in with kale

I can see pimon ( I forgot how to say he’s name) would probably get offered and be like “no more fighting for me im retired”

W video as always your videos are great

10:45 this is literally dragon ball kakumei

If there's ever a new Tournament of Power, I think they should switch up the format. Maybe instead of a battle royale it can be team matches. You could either split each universe in teams of two, or the more fun option, mix them for some fun character interactions.

It would be awesome to show a rebellion arc

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Out of all the universes I’m most excited to see universe 6. I do think cabba will definitely peruse god ki, but I would want to see caulifla take a different approach to growing stronger. As for universes 13-16 I do want to see them comeback and cause a ruckus similar to the buu saga, but I think it’s unlikely. A issue with the previous tournament of power was us getting to see all of these different characters but not have the time to get to know them. So if the previously erased universes do return I’d like for us to see more of the other universes and learn more about the inhabitants of them first.

Carthu, I get how Forced Spirit Fission negs most fusion characters, but how de-fusing the Universe 6 namekians be officiated? Would Universe 6 be disqualified, or would the team that de-fused them be disqualified? I imagine the former, but the context of fuzed namekians feels way different considering their fusions are more like absorbtions and meant to be permanent. EDIT: I say "disqualified" because of the max allowed team members

man just described dragon ball kakumei at the end..

12:50 i’m pretty sure that’s just a fan manga called dragon ball kakumei (I think, might be remembering wrong)

Man I would be really curious about how strong the other universe would be in the next TOP, especially U6 and U11. 🤔 But ah man, I really like the idea of U13-U18 interrupting the TOP to rebel against the Zeno, and the different universe have choose which side they are on. 😁

Frieza: frost how did you get that power? Frost: by surviving the worst batman and robin! Frieza: oh god!!!!!

I like how one of the silhouettes of the "deleted" universes' fighters looks like *Jar Jar Binks* lol

People always say universe 7 are unstoppable but new universes jiren learned trust Bergamo and others probably have trained a lot so we can say universe 7 probably has improved the most but it won’t be a clean sweep Sadly I don’t think the ToP will ever happen again 😢

YOUR GENIUS aslo i would LOVE to see more unique fighters added to the set which it could attract more people to the show

It’ll probably be more like a proper tournament too with bracket systems and all that they could draw it out longer and speed it up with team matches where the final 3 or 4 members team up and try to defeat another team

Nice video!

You know, i'd always imagine a scenario where a new tournament of power would happen- But like you said- It could get interrupted any time since my main suspect for a troublemaker would be black frieza, as cringey as this may sound. A scenario where the self-proclaimed Emperor would try his second chance at taking the super dragon balls for himself wouldn't be unrealistic, frieza does want to surpass beerus after all.. With his newly trained power and form he could easily be tolerated into the tournament as Zeno would be easily entertained, who knows.. The end of this tournament might be something else than Jiren for a final boss..

I think the power of the mortals and the other universes that didn't have to participate is somewhat of a factor. I think in the manga it's either the Grand Priest or someone who says that Zeno was happy that the lower level universes could produce strong mortals like Goku and Toppo I believe. That could be off on who it was they were talking about but it was something along those lines. So it may be SOMEWHAT of a factor.

Nice vid!

This gotta be really good

If they do bring back the old erased universes, those universes should try to cheat in the tournament to get what they want. And I want Frieza to able to relate to them.

Given the bigger power potential in certain universes compared to others, I could imagine they’d limit a future ToP to 4 universes, as that would allow for tighter development and a slower run time, both many complained the first ToP lacked. Due to the current listing on mortal levels, it might not be consistent, but including Universes 2, 6, 7 and 11 feels like the best choice.

Great attention to details from the manga

I think it'd be pretty smart to have most of universe 7 be eliminated and have Goku be forced to team up with another universe to ensure they aren't all wiped off the map by another malicious universe (Potentially 15-18 like you mentioned)

That idea with the 6 previously erased Universes rebelling sounds extremely interesting! It wouldn’t really work though, as Zeno would just be able to erase them all again.

This is a very Good video

Plz make big what if plz there were super details and entertaining

Tbh Carthu, when you said that the next T.O.P could be interrupted, I had a short thought that it could be black frieza basically taking on all of the people participating in the tournament of power

Hey carthu! Amazing work Like always by the way, I Really do wish if Toyotaro And Toriyama create A second tournament of power, bringing back the missing universes 13 through 18, It would be just like The Hit fan manga of dragon ball "kakumei"

10:40 so basically dragon ball kakumei

Great video

I cant wait to see Belmod getting teabagged on by Monaka

Yesirrrr I'm exited carthu😊

I love your videos they are awesome

I concur on the universe 4 part of your video as there was one person on the team other then the two mentioned that had the potential to pose a threat to even Goku himself at some point the one who fought master roshi

SO glad Carthu explained mortal levels It really runs dull when someone spews out about how these universes were left out because of their high mortal levels and how strong they could be when in reality mortal levels being a measurement of quality of life means less violent god-level threats and would therefore lead to softer and squishier mortals that never needed to get strong and fight

You have a great idea at the end, Carthu. I don't really see it happening in the main canon. Maybe Heroes or something.

That Thomas scream was really well placed

carthus dojo so fire

This is sick 🎉

Turning the prediction into kakumei at the end

finally another vid pls make more vids often

Good Video

cant wait!

That last theory is literally the fan manga Dragon ball kakumei and it would be awesome to see!!

I like how at the end my guy some what summarises dragon ball kakumei

i’m just excited at the thought of another tournament of power it would be really cool seeing how different characters have changed/grown and seeing new faces potentially

As usual your videos are insightful as always, but only one small query I have and that is the 6 previous universes retuning. As much as it would be so sick to have them return in the manga it was straightforward that it was only the 12 universes that came back nth more you could reread that manga T.O.P ending just to be safe

Carthu really likes that drum type sound effect

Honestly that idea of the dead universes sounds absolutely dope and I wonder what angles would come from them

Just seeing a skilled assassin like Hit talking or fighting alongside Granohla would be awesome. Along with Broly laying a smackdown on Jiren

4:37 - Yes officer, that's the one right there. 😂

it would be so cool to just have an entire arc or hell even movie dedicated to one of the universes like imagine a movie about how the universe 6 characters have to fight some world ending threat no goku or universe 7 just them

Jeez, Vegeta is just destroying the fodder with Forced Spirit Fission

Grey frost in thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂

Can you make a playlist of all of your videos like this? I like listening to these but without a playlist I will be watching a video about beast gohan and then hear a what if about gohan.

I think frieza defecting to a different universe or maybe one of the unseen universes viewing the other universes as inferior and wanting to wish them away would set up a good antagonistic force

I love your videos man, listen I have an amazing idea for a what if video which I heard, "what if....captain ginyu change bodies with Gogeta\ Vegito

Next Tournament of Power: How to beat Forced Spirit Fission

that was awesome

Say Carthu I got a question for you. What do you think would have happened if Goku got his potential unlock by Guru back in the Freeza arc?