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Randy Moss played in Jordan basketball shoes on turf. Why y'all so dumb nowadays? If you're on turf, wear a rubber sole thats either smooth or has microspikes. They're great. Fast too. Low resistance to plant your stride.

Why should I send a message to the NFL about turf? If the players thought it was unsafe they would get a different job.

@@MrBadjohn69wtf

@@richardkittle2346What part of my comment is beyond your ability to comprehend?? Or are you a dummy who works at an unsafe worksite?

How about replacing Roger

Isn't there also artificial ice? Some sort of a plastic. If I'm not mistaken you can also bring in slabs of ice in some places. With Uconn and the boston and providence bruins though ive only seen real ice. At least i hope so.. or it was freezing for no reason.

​@@coltonblake13that's more expensive than maintaining ice..

Taylor swift music is mid

@@pepebeezon772 wait until you tell that guy ice is just cold water

@@MatthewMS. Not really sure how that's relevant... But it's a very generous thing to say about her music.

That check on the 1st and the 15th duh 😂 lol

Any strike would need to be supported by the fans overwhelmingly cause otherwise it won't work.

They're waiting for more players to have the courage to stand up to the owners.

​@PandaKnight52 that's not how striking works. These are the people who create the real value for the NFL. Owners would have very little choice. Just need solidarity.

@@PandaKnight52 *_Why would the fans not support a strike that aims to reduce the number of player injuries? How many teams had their playoff or record season dreams shattered by player injuries? How many times have fans worried that the only thing that could stop their teams from performing well was to keep the team healthy and playing with their best players? If fans are against such a strike, they would be going against their own best interest!_*

yah goodells comment about following science is straight from the concussion/cte denial era...nothings changed

The Rodgers injury would have happened on grass. His injury occurred because of hyperflexion rather than his foot getting caught in the turf (what causes most turf related injuries).

@@gavynhohon2818Yes, his foot got caught in the turf, the turf didn’t budge like natural grass does, and his leg hyper extended. On a grass field, the grass would push back and not straighten out his calf.

Why do you expect the NFL, the most profitable league in North America, who views their players as a product as it always has been, to provide care for their products? It’s not some candy-land where everyone is respecting and is caring for everybody. It’s a business.. you fans look at it as entertainment, but in reality it’s a harsh business. In fact, no different than any other major business chain out there in the world. Quit whining, and accept the reality as it is, you cannot change that. For those who still don’t understand, it’s not that the league doesn’t care for their players at all, but it’s not their priority. Never was, never will.

It’s really sad you don’t think positive change is possible and are fine just settling for how it is. If things really couldn’t change we’d still have the working conditions of the early 1900’s. Stop bootlicking for evil people

oh you mean the stadium the state is building fuck the bills

The new Bills stadium which will also be named Highmark Stadium (the same name as the current stadium) will have a grass field. Hopefully, this leads to many players loving to play games at the new Highmark Stadium, even if the Bills are terrible.

Who is paying for that stadium that? The rich owner or the city/county? That’s another major issue far bigger than turf or grass

And is it any wonder I prefer arcade style football

Same thing for the Ravens last year on week one. Lost multiple starters playing one game at that stadium.

@@theghosty99 I thought it was 2021

They replaced the field this offseason…

@@agb95 It’s still cursed

Sadly the turf gives you more spring when running. Faster, jump higher. Not a fan of it by any means but it fits the higher scoring more explosive game that they're pushing.

@@EZlionsminute8742 that sounds cute in theory, but most of us want to see Aaron Rodgers on the field right now, OBJ back in the superbowl, etc. I'll take that any day over Tyreek hill being .7% faster. And this is coming from someone who highly dislikes Arod.

Also, that might be the case for pure SPEED people, but how many people aren't playing faster because they're subconsciously worried about injuries? Or the players who are unnecessarily sore from the week prior from having to play on turf? Their energy,speed,strength are all now compromised.

@@thebagelchief1140 as I said I'm not a fan of it just the way I think the NFL looks at it.

this!!!! they never talk about how much the turf fields cost! I imagine it's not THAT much cheaper, and soo much more worth it as an investment

it's also a one time fee, with minor maintenance... A grass field needs water, mowing, de-weeding, fertilizer maintenance, CONSTANT re-painting, spot re-sodding from time to time and so on

Yea, the worst thing is, let’s say you’re in high school right, every turf field you play on during away games will be different than the other. That’s what makes it even worse. You physically cannot adjust to this.

Welcome to your artificial reality

Look? For workers they won't spend anything.

Crazy eh? 30 stadiums and 15 of them use turf. The craziest part is that the NFC and AFC South BOTH have 3 teams with turf. The AFC North has 3 teams with grass.

@@Chewyfood lol love the grass is too hard to grow bs

There are some indoor stadiums that don't have the ability to grow grass and to remodel them would be counter productive. So it needs to be mandated all new stadium have to be real grass

Dome stadiums require turf, because grass needs the sun, it actually weird how many people don't realize this.

@@philiphaun666😅then open up the roof?

Get a good enough lawyer and they could probably get close. Get enough players with good enough lawyers and there might be an actual change. Player injuries caused by stadium/sideline/courtside/(maybe ballparks too) can usually be taken to court. I honestly don't understand how shitty turf is any different.

The owners will never go for that. And unless it's included in a collective bargaining agreement, there is no mechanism to make that happen. Who's going to make them?! No one.

You’ll find the owners doing the same thing the VA does to veterans. “Oh I see you’re injured, but that could’ve been from anything, we rule it not service connected, 0% coverage. Good luck.”

lol no

Not sure why you blame the nfl. It's up to each teams to maintained those fields or what kimd fields that they what. Maybe it should be nfl responsibility to force teams to use grass fields or get fine

There have been effective strikes in the NFL, I believe of all franchises at once before

They can't ban all of the players, though!

@@QuietlyHere666 I would watch that. 😆

Yes, a slow down. Were the players agree to end all games that week in a draw and just punt the ball back and forth to each other. It would certainly shake the league up

An entire game of 3 and outs on the turf fields would definitely get some attention

It didn't come up because this story is about the turf. If they tried to cover every skeezy thing the NFL does to its players we'd be here for days!

Basically every player has mostly unguarenteed money on their contract. The only large, multi-year, fully guaranteed, non-rookie contract out there is basically just DeShawn Watson's and we see how that's going

That's not an issue and is just part of the game. Necessary to because of situations like that we're a guy can't even play. So he'd be sitting on the bench while hitting the salary cap and screwing the team

Just say the illegals want to see the players on real grass and it will be changed before the next day

That's why players hold out for bigger contracts, that's the system

Fans don’t care it’s just more money that our cities have to front .. the nfl should care

greed and arrogance

FedEx Field has always had grass, though... They just have a sketchy maintenance history.

FedEx field is Bermuda grass, not turf.

⁠@@selanryn5849 what is Bermuda grass. Is it just normal grass? If so, why does it have such a high injury rate

@@SweepSwapInUrWalls Yeah, it's just a variety of grass. It's pretty common for playing fields of all types because it can handle being cut so short and being stomped on. Downside is it needs a ton of care, especially in more temperate areas like Maryland.

Except grass can be and is grown in indoor stadiums. It says everything that the two most expensive stadium projects in Europe (Tottenham Hostspur and Real Madrid) the last few years specifically designed their stadiums with grass pitches that can be moved when they host other events. And no the irony that Tottenham Hotspur moves their grass out of the way for Turf when the NFL is visiting town isn't lost on me.

Lambeau hosted a Billy Joel concert a few summers ago, and hosted a college hockey game there, as for Monster Truck rallies, ehhh, Green Bay's pop is 100+k inner city, 250k county wide, not enough demand for Monster Truck to be in Lambeau as people forget it's in a small town.

@@frenchfrey65 Lambeau is allotted one non-football event per year to preserve the grass. The Resch across the street has hosted Monster Jam (I was there and the 10k seat arena was pretty packed), and now that there are venues like Epic Event Center, Titletown, Capital Credit Park and the renovated Resch within 1 mile of the stadium there's less of a reason to do that stuff in Lambeau itself nowadays

@@selfloathinggameing don't forget Weidner Center, Meyer Theater, and the Kress Events Center, they may all be away from lambeau but they host stuff too. It's like I said though, Green Bay isn't a huge city, you're not going to get 100+k locals to care about events enough to be hosted at Lambeau when like you and I were saying with all the other arenas that can do that. Most cities are big enough that they can host big concerts like Swift at stadiums. That's another thing, you got the fox cities and Milwaukee that host events too if they can't get enough demand in Green Bay.

raymond james in tampa hosts tons of concerts and monster truck rallies, not to mention the climate literally is wrong for the type of grass that they grow on NFL fields. crazy how even the notoriously cheap Glazers manage to make a grass field work

They also have the Green Bay Cell Com Marathon group run around the field every year on temporary rubber track and the inner part hold up fine.

Damn, good luck. Any union hope or is that not really an option?

@@bulletsandbracelets4140 I left that job years ago and changed industries. However in in Texas, they'll lynch you if you speak about unions here.

@@jeremymizer8958 Glad you got out! But oof, yeah. Here's hoping that changes as more and more unions actually do what they are meant to!

Cities or fans owning the teams. Yes

Current nfl bylaws prevent such ownership. We could pass real laws forcing nfl to allow it

Glad I got born a Packers fan. Fan owned team with a grass field in a small town

did you watch the video?

@@yourwrongloserhaha yes.

bro has no idea what he's writing lol

☝️ bro has no idea what he is reading.

i think that's cuz they host other events in the nfl stadiums as well, that's why having it be thinner is better

Right? I'd assumed turf was at least 1-2 inches. That looked like the "outdoor grass" i can get at Walmart for 5$, or a putting green. I know turf sucks, i just had no idea how shit it was. Concrete underneath? This is a multi billion dollar sport. The superbowl field was trash, but a great idea. Bad time to experiment. If every stadium could have that mobile grass and be able to maintain it better, that would be a great solution.

How many Jets were injured during the game?

⁠@@selanryn5849a lot. The whole game was an injury bowl

@@selanryn5849 I dont remember but there was a few actually . Shitshow of a game

No. It’s always about money.

Nope

i thought potentially the nfl owners with turf were descendents of satan but now that you mention it prolly both

That has nothing to do with it. Not everything in life is about rich Vs poor.

@@nwinburnyou rich af 😂😂😂… naw but seriously the tax payers and state to reap major benefits to the World Cup coming to town. Major economic boom like it’s been in every World Cup for that year. Tax payers get plenty back in the long run.

@@roberto5red5rocky85 what does the World Cup have to do with this? This is about team owners being greedy, not about tax payers or soccer - which isn't even played in these stadiums 😂😂

​@@nwinburnI mean that's literally what this is about. Taxpayers subsidize the stadiums and then pay for grass fields that only the European soccer teams get to use when they visit. It's literally in the video you just watched.

Chicks should not be allowed to talk about sports. Ever. It turns into a political statement

How about we line the owners up and we tackle them each once on turf and once on grass and see what they think after LOL. I only played a few games on turf and it clearly hurts way more getting tackled on it vs. grass.

Its 80% of players. First game of the year, everyone decides they wont play on turf. Itll screw up a whole year probably but i think one week would be all it took. Heck, make it public ahead of time and have 80% of the players not play on any surface until they fix it. I'd bet you they wouldn't risk a second week. Tv viewership is ome thing, but advertisers are usually locked in regardless of who watches. Stadiums though, then you have vendors angry, mayors angry.. then the teams wouldn't flip on their players theyd insist the league fix it. Sad as it is i think every teams afraid the other will out anyone of the field and get a win if they did that. Seems like the only way if the PA isnt working.

It's not neccesarily the nfl. Every stadium is up to the team and usually the state who likely paid a huge or all the cost to build it. So the state wants to get all it can year round from its investment. The nfl can afford it, but theyd have to do it dor every single field. Then if conditions arent perfect it falls on the whole organization. Like the last superbowl. Excellent idea for using a hybrid grass field, superbowl, not the time for experiments. Usually though its up to the towns or cities. The nfl doesn't own any stadium to my knowledge.

The champions league is all about being an exciting tournament. The NFL is all about money.

Can't really compare an era where a minor injury could end your career to an era where players are tearing their ACL and coming back in the same season

I'm more curious about something that's difficult to measure. My experience playing on turf is that I haven't been injured but I'm far more achy after playing on it. All the NFL players complain about how it makes them feel, but don't always sustain a huge injury. But routinely putting your body through that pain shortens your time as an athlete. Don't have an easy way to measure that though... @@symptomofsouls

Yep. They cap us at 96 in NY. But, you add 10 degrees for turf, and suddenly, it’s a whole lot more sucky. Played soccer and ran track. It took me the same amount of time to get shin splints in the turf as the concrete. It could be worse. Our school had a crushed asphalt track 10 years ago.

It's money. In particular, it's ROI. Removing and reinstalling grass every week costs money as the video points out. For soccer, the cost is balanced out by the revenue of the match since the choice is play on grass or not at all. There's no compelling business reason for NFL teams to do this for their own games. It may not be super expensive to use grass but it doesn't make money either. It will take the NFLPA prioritizing this issue in the next CBA negotiation to change this.

The Houston Texans used roll out grass until a few years ago. Players sued the team and the stadium and they were forced to switch to turf. They complained the seams in the roll out grass caught cleats and caused injuries.

@@codybaker1150 That's a good point. Grass is less consistent. Poorly maintained grass can be quite dangerous. That being said, I do think NFL franchises could afford to have high-quality grass surfaces if they really wanted to.

@@jplace524 I wholeheartedly agree. I just remember being super bummed when Houston switched to turf, and all the context. But the history of the topic matters. Bob McNair felt very strongly about football being played on grass, he had a creative solution (one of the ones pitched in this video) and got sued over it. So the other option was turf, given the way Reliant Stadium was built. Current head coach and former Texans player Demeco Ryans was one of the players that sued when he was injured while playing for the Eagles. Everyone was super bummed.

Wth are turf plugs?

@@butterbean2257The plastic fibers are inserted into the ground to provide more stability to the natural grass.

With these new sliding pitches, they can just have multiple pitches and switch them out for the two teams. If they need three or four, then just take a few parking spaces - if you look at MetLife on a satellite image it looks like a pimple in the middle of a crater of parking lots, they can spare a few parking spots to put the spare pitches on.

@@RichardGadsden In the case where each team had their own pitch (Las Vegas for example) at least one was artificial turf. You would also have to tear down some or all of one end of the stadium to be able to accommodate the rolling field. MetLife would have to either work out a more durable grass field system or the Jets could move back to NYC proper with a new stadium.

He was weakened by covid. My coworker got covid and has been wheelchair-bound for three years now.

@@selanryn5849you don’t know aaron rodger’s situation, but fact of the matter is he was on a turf field when the Achilles injury happened

The Houston Texans used roll out grass until a few years ago. Players sued the team and the stadium and they were forced to switch to turf. They claimed the seams in the grass rolls caught cleats and caused injuries.

lol How much stock do they have in plastic "grass'?!

Politicians might not have the best track record, but they're certainly more responsive than fucking NFL team owners lol

Mine told the Raiders to build their own damn stadium if they wanted a new one, and the team left and found other suckers to give them a massive handout. So, yeah.