The NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible

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A review of the NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible (ISBN 9780310450504). This Bible features the text of the 2011 revision of the New International Version (NIV) arranged in a single text column, formatted into paragraphs, for the 66 books of the Protestant canon. The font in the text is 9.1 points. It includes 20,000 study notes printed in ~7.5 point font. The paper is reasonably opaque and show-through (ghosting) is a minor issue.
The volume is bound in tan and caramel imitation leather. The binding is sewn and the Bible lies open in both Genesis and Exodus. The wide inner margin generally keeps the text out of the gutter and on the flat portion of the page. The words of Christ are in black ink.
Detailed contents
00:00 Dimensions, margins, layout, font ..., four slides
00:16 Unboxing
02:08 Size compared to the ESV Study Bible
02:27 Size compared to the NKJV Study Bible
02:48 The box
03:12 Page layout
04:50 The font in the text
05:38 The marginal references
06:34 The font in the study notes
06:55 Paper qualities (weight, glossiness, color, opacity)
07:38 Book and section introductions
09:40 The words of Christ are in black ink
10:04 Table of weights and measures
10:19 The 28 articles
11:00 The concordance
11:56 The binding is sewn
12:07 The map index
12:18 The 14 color maps
12:56 The paste-off construction
13:45 The Bible lies open and relatively flat in Genesis
14:59 The copyright page
15:10 The table of contents
16:50 The editorial team
17:07 Old Testament chronology
17:57 Ribbon measurements
18:33 A close-up look at the font
18:58 The font compared to that in an NIV Single-Column Reference Bible printed in 2011
19:21 The font compared to that in an ESV Study Bible printed circa 2008
19:39 The font compared to that in the NASB MacArthur Study Bible with Comfort Print font
20:01 The font compared to that in the NRSV New Oxford Annotated Bible, 5th edition
20:16 The NIV as a translation: it employs the singular 'they'
21:28 How literal is the NIV? The translation continuum chart
21:52 How frequently does the NIV stray from the Masoretic Text?
22:15 The NIV's New Testament compared to the Nestle-Aland, Robinson-Pierpont, Westcott & Hort, and Tyndale House Greek New Testaments
23:30 The article entitled "Sin", by Kevin DeYoung
25:21 The footnote at Genesis 6.2. Who were the sons of God?
26:00 The major covenants in the Old Testament
26:28 The footnote at Genesis 15.6. Abraham believed God ...
27:06 The footnote at 2 Sam 21.19. Elhanan and Goliath.
27:46 The footnote at Psalm 2
28:10 The footnote at Isaiah 9.6
28:54 The footnote summarizing the song of the suffering servant, Isaiah 52.13-53
29:29 The table of New Testament quotations from or references to Isaiah 52.13-53
29:38 The footnotes at Daniel 9.24 and 9.25-27. Daniel's seventy weeks.
30:19 The footnote at Zechariah 12.10. "They will look on me, the one they have pierced ..."
30:56 The footnote on Matthew 28.18 -- The Great Commission and baptism
31:40 The footnote at 1 Peter 3.21, baptism now saves you
32:34 The footnote at Luke 22.19, "this is my body"
33:27 The footnote at 1 Cor 11.24, "this is my body"
33:59 The footnote at 1 Cor 13.8-10 and the cessation of spiritual gifts
34:34 The footnote at 1 Tim 2.12, women in authority
35:04 The footnote at 1 Peter 3.19, the imprisoned spirits
35:38 The introduction to Revelation and the millennium
36:21 This Bible fits in the large canvas cover
37:40 Summary

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@lloydolayvar1641 2 года назад

For serious Bible readers this is the best kind of review. Thanks a lot.

@arttyler5307 Месяц назад

I appreciate your detailed review that other reviewers overlook. Thanks

@percival5207 3 года назад

We have all sorts of bible demoes on youtube being mislabelled as reviews.... but your's is an actual review!!! Thank you Dr. Grant.

@johnydevassia Год назад

Yr review as usual is extraordinarily good

@Ambrose_op 3 года назад

Congratulations on well over three thousand subscribers, Dr. Jones! Thank you for the continually enjoyable and well-done content.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thank you, Parker! I appreciate the encouragement.

@Tom-qo4mz 3 года назад

Noticing the map on your desk - greetings from London! V thorough and helpful review as always, thanks for sharing

@mm-qm9zh 3 года назад

Mr. Jones, as a Catholic, I want to commend you for your comments made when reviewing the footnotes and explanations at about 30: - 32, as regards baptism and the institution of the Eucharist at the Last Supper. You are quite respectful, and I also agree with your comments about the use of gender-inclusion language. I enjoyed your review very much. Many thanks! 🙏 Meline

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks very much for that kind comment, Meline!

@danshumway9031 3 года назад

Mr Jones I see you're back in full force. Thanks for the video!

@eveningstar777 2 года назад

I really wish they had it in their mind to set ALL machine to give bibles THUMB INDEXES. This is lovely thank you so much for taking time to show us this. 🧡💛🧡

@chaplainpaul5326 8 месяцев назад

I avoid thumb indexes, and I'm glad we have the option to choose to have or not have thumb indexes.

@fumastertoo 2 года назад

Another great review, and very thorough sir.

@donaldmartineau8176 3 года назад

Thanks for responding so quickly. You are a great service for bible lovers.

@Habanecro 2 года назад

this is like, bible review asmr. relaxing AND edifying, 10/10 would recommend

@robertflower1160 3 года назад

Great review,helpful video Mr. Jones.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

I appreciate the encouraging comment, Robert! Thank you!

@catlorecj424 3 года назад

The NIV is something I read along with a word-for-word style version. It's useful for many people, and I find it helps me understand some passages better. My favorite is the NKJV, and I'm also studying out of my new NET Bible. A person should use whichever version speaks to them, the one likely they will pick up and read more. I find the leather flex, leather-like, vinyl versions use paper lining on the inside, which ends up tearing quite rapidly. You said you didn't like the feel of this one, but they do vary sometimes. The leathers are becoming so expensive these days, even so I do prefer the real leather covers. I have the burgundy cover which I love and the hardback Bible (Orthodox Study Bible) fits nicely in it.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for commenting, Charlene F.! I agree that the NIV works well as a second, more interpretive translation. I've been reading this NIV alongside a KJV. Regarding imitation leather, I have an ESV Creeds and Confessions Bible -- which I'll review in a month or so -- with an imitation leather cover that's a pleasure to touch. So, yes, they do vary.

@acardnal 3 года назад

Thanks for another fine review. I always enjoy your calm voice and intellectual commentary in your reviews. When you disagree with something you do so respectfully. As usual, I look forward to your next review.! FYI, I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this but back in August Google/RU-vid stop sending me emails for the videos I have Subscribed to! Not happy.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks much for the kind words, acardnal! I haven't experienced a problem like yours, but I can't recall requesting email notifications. On the other hand, RU-vid sometimes doesn't notify me when a comment is posted to one of my videos. I haven't discovered the method to the madness yet.

@acardnal 3 года назад

@@RGrantJones In the past, when I Subscribed to Notifications for particular RU-vid video channels, I would be sent an email to my gmail account announcing that a new video has been posted. That stopped for some reason in August. I have checked my settings in Chrome browser on my laptop and Android phone but have not met with success yet.

@dino575 2 года назад

Excellent review - as always - perfect quiet Sunday evening viewing and listening. I have the NIV Study Bible 2020 version. And as someone else said below it is worth it for the notes / comments. But the NIV for me is not my bible of choice alas even though it was one of the first Bible translations I used in my early days. If only they could do the NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible in say the NKJV or ESV. I may buy this for the notes alone but not sure yet. Anyways thank you for an another wonderful review I found in your channel ++

@forgottenman749 3 года назад

I have the same ESV Study Bible that you showed as a comparison. I love that bible. I like the ESV translation better than the NIV.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

I agree; I prefer the ESV to the NIV. (I also prefer the 1984 NIV to the 2011 NIV.) Thanks for commenting.

@tabasco7915 2 года назад

@@RGrantJones I agree on the 1984 N.I.V..

@donaldmartineau8176 3 года назад

Once again, a very thorough review. A bit pf an unrelated topic--what do you think of the Lamsa bible? I've heard that there are quite a number of issues/ problems/concerns with it's validity compared with the many, many bible translations based on the Greek manuscripts. Have you done a review on this bible? If not, will you?

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Yes, I intend to review his translation at some point. I haven't studied it in detail, but putting together a review will give me the opportunity to take a closer look. I did score his New Testament against four Greek New Testaments, and the agreement with Robinson-Pierpont is relatively high (about 69%). Thank you for the kind comment!

@josephjude1290 3 года назад

Another great video. Gorgias press has a new syriac english new testament out. We would love your commentary.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind comment, and for bringing that New Testament to my attention. It looks interesting. www.gorgiaspress.com/syriac-english-new-testament .

@JCATG 3 года назад

Wow, I never thought that youʼd actually review this particular Study Bible. I am a big fan of this Study Bible with the way it is voluminous in its resource and also that it was spearheaded by one of my most favorite New Testament scholars, Dr. D. A. Carson. And if Iʼm not mistaken, this Caramel-colored cover is also their most expensive cover offering for this particular Study Bible version. I have no qualms about it, though. The style itself gave it a bit of a modern character. Thank you for doing this review of the NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible, Mr. Jones. Keep on doing these reviews. We always appreciate your content. God bless you all the more!

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Nikko - I've also been very impressed by Dr. Carson over the years. I recently saw a video here on RU-vid in which he discussed the New Perspective on Paul, and it was excellent. By the way, at the moment this Bible costs $36.49 at Christian Bible Distributors. I think that's an excellent value. Thanks very much for your heartening comment!

@ACF1901 3 года назад

Another great review thank you. After accidentally ordering a bible not knowing it had red lettering, I agree with you, I find it distracting. Also I think it gradually leads people to having the impression that only when Jesus is quoted is it the word of God, I.e. God speaking to us through scripture. When in reality everything written is God's word, written by God who did his work through humans. If you can't trust the black letters, what makes the red letters anymore trustworthy? 2000 years of black ink and suddenly we struggle to understand the word of God? Lol

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the encouraging comment! Unless they're very dark, red letters cause me eye strain. They're actually painful to read. And, of course, you're right -- all the letters are from God.

@xxZachguyxx 3 года назад

Great review Mr. Jones. I do have a question regarding the 3-millennium views. What do you hold to or where are you leaning towards? Cheers, Zach George

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

I lean toward premillennialism mainly because I find it hard to believe that several of the earliest Christian writers could have been mistaken on that point. But I acknowledge that the other views comport better with some passages of Scripture. Thanks for the view and encouraging comment, Zach!

@donaldmartineau8176 3 года назад

Some of your subscribers may be interested in a review of “The Bible from 26 Translations”. Curtis Vaughan Ed. Also regarding the Lamsa: Gen 22:1 Matt 27:46 Mark 15:34 seem to be very controversial. Thanks again for your stellar work! Donnie

@EnlightenedHeart01 3 года назад

Thanks for the review I am considering getting this NIV To see how it is different in comparison to other NIV bibles. I have recently got rid of most of the niv bibles because they have diluted and removed a lot of words that we're in the KJV and Geneva Bible. I also like the fact the maps in this Bible have old school Bible look about them. Also, I am curious what' do you do with the bibles you review do you keep the,m or do you donate them to churches that need them.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for commenting, Jane. I've given away a number of Bibles over the years, but I keep many of them for my own use. I often show them in these reviews for comparison purposes.

@juniorjones5137 2 года назад

You did well, great great review not a niv person but excellent work

@RGrantJones 2 года назад

Thank you for the encouragement!

@cherokeegypsy2617 2 года назад

How does this Bible compare in regards to the notes and content of the NIV Study Bible, Fully Revised Edition? Thank you

@RGrantJones 2 года назад

Sorry, but I haven't seen the NIV Study Bible, Fully Revised Edition.

@hassanmirza2392 3 года назад

As usual, a very nice review. Your Bible reviews are very academic yet accessible. :) It seems that Protestants have more options when it comes to translations of Bible, even here in Germany. Maybe because Catholics does not allow a lot of theirs's to be published without permission of Church? There is not much option for Eastern/Slavic Orthodox Bibles in English, only the Orthodox Study Bible. Another question in my mind is: How much % of Bible (Catholic & Protestant) is Old Testament, and how much % is New Testament? I have read that Approx. 76% is old OT and 24% is NT.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind comment, Hassan! Regarding Catholic translations, I don't know why there are fewer of them. Your guess may be correct: Since Catholics generally want to use translations that carry an imprimatur and nihil obstat, Catholic translators aren't motivated to undertake a translation unless they can get the hierarchy on their side. The NT percentage will be lower for Catholic Bibles than for Protestant ones. The ESV-CE, which doesn't include notes and references, has a total page count of 1198 pages, and its Old Testament (including the Deuterocanonicals) is 962 pages long. So that gives us 80% OT and 20% NT. I have an Oxford Brevier Clarendon KJV (without Apocrypha) with an Old Testament 1154 pages long and a New Testament spanning 346 pages. That works out to 77/23.

@hassanmirza2392 3 года назад

@@RGrantJones Thanks for replying. And who manages the Orthodox and Protestant Bible translation quality control? I think Catholic translation hierarchy makes sense. Also, these Bibles with too many colors and pictures look fake and less serious, and it also removes the sense that one is reading a Holy Book. I think RNJB has a graceful look, also this NRSV Catholic Bible which I have bought. www.amazon.de/-/en/Catholic-Bible-Press/dp/0785230416/ref=pd_sbs_14_2/257-4617430-1968850?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0785230416&pd_rd_r=adf4a846-e2d7-451f-b5e8-3327fb7321e5&pd_rd_w=NfAze&pd_rd_wg=K9nGG&pf_rd_p=a03ac387-6e4d-4f6b-96b6-1853da0bb37b&pf_rd_r=8DGPDWT7W41QW0N8B22C&psc=1&refRID=8DGPDWT7W41QW0N8B22C It has 1034 OT pages (76%) and 270 NT (24%) pages.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

@@hassanmirza2392 - regarding the Orthodox, that's a good question. I'm not sure the Eastern Orthodox Bible New Testament has any ecclesiastical approval. The Orthodox Study Bible does not appear to have had any official ecclesiastical endorsement. Protestant Bibles are managed by market forces, I think. In outline, quality translations are respected by scholars. That respect becomes known to the public, and it results in sales.

@hassanmirza2392 3 года назад

@@RGrantJones I was reading that the orthodox Study Bible has lots of Trinity and Jesus in footnotes of Old Testament, which is not honest even according to Christian theology. It was a customer review at Amazon. This looks like a good study Bible if they improve the quality of commentary, it also has more books.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

@@hassanmirza2392 - to read the Old Testament in light of the New is the the method the early Christians followed. It's one of the things I like about the Orthodox Study Bible. I just wish they'd consistently translated the Septuagint rather than the Masoretic Text.

@FernandoSerna1654 3 года назад

I know from other videos that you do not seem to care for the NIV translation because of the inclusive language issue and the grammatical ramifications, and there may be other things. But aside from inclusive language what do you think about the quality of its translation of the NT? Why is the JB and NEB better or worse? Many thanks!

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the question, Fernando! What follows is unsupported by careful analysis and subjective in nature. That said, note that all three are interpretive translations: When the original is ambiguous, the translators make a choice and present it in English -- which means that you have no opportunity to analyze the ambiguity yourself because you aren't aware it exists. For that reason, I don't recommend any of them as primary translations. The JB and the NEB are quite a bit more interpretive than the NIV, but my impression is that both the JB and the NEB present rich vocabulary, varied syntax, and pithy forms of expression more often than the NIV does. My impression is that the NIV is relatively dull and bland. It reminds me of my junior high school textbooks. I suspect the EHV editors had the NIV in mind when they wrote that they didn't want their translation to drain “the color and liveliness from passages by removing the imagery.” On the gender issue, I've been working off and on for several months on a video comparing the gender inclusive approaches of the NIV and the NRSV. My overall sense is that the NIV is less rigorous and comprehensive in its implementation, but it often employs the singular 'they' -- something I haven't found in the NRSV. The singular 'they' definitely annoys me, but it's not as obfuscatory as the NRSV's use of 'mortal' for 'son of man'.

@FernandoSerna1654 3 года назад

@@RGrantJones This is very helpful and I concur with your conclusions. Blessings to you!

@rachelkarslake7787 3 года назад

I would like to thank you for taking time to review, film, and edit your videos. They are all very professional and, in my opinion, very helpful. Is this a Zondervan Bible? If so, they are really publishing a lot of visually pleasing Bibles lately. The inner pages of this version are thoughtfully laid out and designed. I like the inclusion of color. It's not the translation that I would prefer (and the note on Baptism stopped my heart a little), but I know quite a few people that would love this Bible.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the compliment on the quality of the videos, Rachel! I've attempted to present the usual data in less time in recent videos, and I think it's working. Yes, this is a Zondervan Bible. I agree with you about the attractive design, illustrations, and translation.

@krjohnson29 3 года назад

Wow! That is beautifully printed, but the single column seems like it would make it difficult to read.

@prisketbisket Год назад

Do I get the Niv fully revised study Bible or the Niv Biblical theology study Bible? What is the main difference and which one do I get? I’m so confused as I like both! Do help.

@RGrantJones Год назад

Priscilla - I wish I could help, but I haven't seen the fully revised NIV study Bible.

@prisketbisket Год назад

@@RGrantJones no worries and thank you for your extensive review of this Bible. I’ve ordered the same one but in pink now! 😁

@charlene2377 3 года назад

I just bought a 2011 NIV not long ago. I like some of the changes to it, and use it for casual reading, just getting the idea of the stories, especially. I do not like the gender inclusiveness as I'm "old school" and taught "he" or "his" can mean both genders. Basically those specific changes only confuse me, too. Great evaluation, as usual. I will always rely on the NKJV and KJV for exact wording, but sometimes it helps my fragile (or exhausted) mind to read from a more dynamic equivalent version. I figure if it is successful in keeping me in the Word longer, it's worth it.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind comment, Charlene! I like to read a loose translation sometimes myself. Sounds like we had the same English teacher in school. I just can't get used to the singular 'they'.

@charlene2377 3 года назад

Maybe my dictionary is "dated" but it also agrees "they" is plural. Hmmm... ;c)

@MAMoreno 3 года назад

I'm not a fan of the NIV (in any edition), but I'd pick it up in a second if Zondervan would release this study Bible with the NASB 2020 text.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

That sounds like a great idea. Thanks for the comment, M.A. Moreno!

@aleczamora6993 3 года назад

It's still worth getting because of the notes

@tabasco7915 2 года назад

I second that although they have went gender inclusive as well. Here is an example: "Or do you not know, brothers and sisters (for I am speaking to those who know the Law), that the Law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives?" Rom 7:1 N.A.S.B..

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Copies like mine may be purchased here. www.christianbook.com/niv-biblical-theology-imitation-leather-caramel/9780310450504/pd/450502?product_redirect=1&search_term=niv%20biblical%20theology&Ntt=450502&item_code=&ps_exit=PRODUCT&Ntk=keywords&event=ESRCP . But hardcover and bonded leather editions are available too, as well as one in pink and brown Leathersoft. Canvas Bible covers like the one that appears in the video are shown here: www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/easy_find?Ntt=wordkeeper+canvas+bible+covers&N=0&Ntk=keywords&action=Search&Ne=0&event=ESRCG&nav_search=1&cms=1&ps_exit=RETURN . They're useful for protecting hardback, imitation leather, and bonded leather Bibles. Be careful to check dimensions. "Large" fits the Bible shown in the video.

@edwardgraham9443 3 года назад

This is a very nicely constructed Bible and though I'm not a fan of the NIV, it fairly well made. I'd love for Zondervan to make this with NASB 1995 translation as there is really not much Nasb Study Bible recently other than the McArthur Study Bible.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Edward - I too would prefer this study Bible in a more literal translation. But since I often use two translations -- one at the literal end and one more interpretive -- I find I can gainfully use both the translation and the notes in this volume alongside an RV, ASV, NKJV, or KJV. Yours is the second comment I've seen recommending the notes in this study Bible be combined with the NASB (though the other person suggested they use the 2020 NASB). If Zondervan reads comments on RU-vid reviews, perhaps they'll take those recommendations to heart. Hope you are well!

@edwardgraham9443 3 года назад

@@RGrantJones I'm well. The infection rate here is increasing daily, but I'm good. The scholarship in this study bible seems to be well put together, but I just can't get over the translation. I exclusively use literal translations, if I were to diverge, I'd go for the CSB translation, which I believe to be superior to the NIV. With there being so many transactions to choose from, we are spoiled for choices, yet beyond the NKJV, I think the NASB is the only other transaction that I'd buy. The ESV isn't bad, but it leans too much towards Calvinism and I am not fond of their translation of Genesis 3:16 and 4:7 either, other than that its okay. Nevertheless, all in all, this does look like a really good study bible.

@anthonysmith8311 3 года назад

I’m surprised you haven’t done a NASB MacArthur study bible it came out June second and apparently it is clean and nicely laid out.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for the comment, Anthony! I'll get to it soon.

@eveningstar777 2 года назад

Theres a much lovelier selection coming from United States including 'pre-owned' but unfortunately the p&p is sometimes a lot more than the book itself.

@PrentissYeates 3 года назад

This was called “ The Zondervon NIV Study Bible “. It was a behemoth in size. The Theological NIVSB is manageable in size. The NIV is the most popular bought and read, second only to the KJV. But the update reads aloud, a bit haltingly.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Yes. In fact, there's a note on the box stating that it was "Previously published as the NIV Zondervan Study Bible". CBD still sells the earlier publication, I think. Thanks for commenting!

@johnwilderspin1633 3 года назад

My NIV Study Bible dates from 2010, published by Cambridge & printed by Jongbloed, a real beauty but now showing its age

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

@@johnwilderspin1633 - that sounds like a quality edition! I a hardback NIV Study Bible when it first came out in the 80s, but I gave it away about 30 years ago! I still have a bonded leather, large print copy. Thanks for commenting!

@anthonyfmoss 3 года назад

R. Grant Jones well done to Prentiss for pointing this out. I do have the Zondervan Study Bible version. However, the big drawback with this is that it is not in the “Comfort font”. It is nowhere near as readable as the new retitled version. The font is smaller and not as bold as the version you are reviewing. In fact it is very disappointing. For that reason, this otherwise excellent book doesn’t get the use I was hoping for it.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

@@anthonyfmoss - thanks very much for the comment! I wish I had thought to mention the earlier edition in the video. From what you say, it sounds as if the NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible is quite an improvement over the NIV Zondervan Study Bible.

@PoeticSantos 2 года назад

He went in.

@VargaErwin 3 года назад

NIV the best Bible!

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Many people think so. Thanks for commenting!

@Seaclock35 3 года назад

Thank you for another detailed Bible review. I'll admit that the NIV Comfort Print has grown on me. Perhaps I even prefer it over the NRSV Comfort Print which I think has a tendency to look too bold, too dark, especially in large print though I think Zondervan hit the sweet spot with the NRSV Cultural Background Study Bible. In other NRSV bibles the boldness of the font combined with the rather close, to my eyes, line spacing makes the text look crowded. A RU-vid comment is not the place to engage in detailed or extended argument but I will go against the grain and say that I think the NIV gets a lot of very unfair, undeserved criticism. To my mind, especially compared with some other more revered translations, the English of the NIV is of a very high quality, even elegant. I don't find myself "stubbing my toe", so to speak, on the tortured syntax I find elsewhere. Certainly it has its infelicities, as all translations do, but I seldom find them egregious. I will, however, mention the issue of "inclusive" language. There's nothing intuitive or natural about the inclusive "he"; it's simply a convention that took hold in an earlier era and is now fading away. (The use of the singular "they" is known from the 1300s.) If we look at the pronouns in other languages that do double duty (German and Italian, for example, and certainly others), there's nothing odd or wrong with "they" taking on a singular meaning; it's merely a convention whose time, for most people, has come. There are many developments in language use that many of us -- myself included! -- find regrettable but no amount of prescriptivism will stop them. And truth be told, I suspect that many people who decry "inclusive" language use the singular "they" all the time in speech.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Thanks for commenting, Seaclock35. I notice the singular "they" often these days. This last Saturday, I heard a sports announcer refer to a male football player as a "they". Even so, I know of only one person who, when they employs the singular "they," makes their verb match their pronoun. Perhaps I'll eventually get used to it. But since, as you point out, the language is fluid, why not introduce a new set of gender indefinite singular pronouns? I wouldn't object to zhe, zhis, zher, and zherself, though I'd prefer a set that flows across the tongue with less effort.

@moisesperezgamez5060 3 года назад

What does it means NIV? New International Version?

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

Yes.

@aleczamora6993 3 года назад

Yes

@deeemm8350 3 года назад

I triple dog dare you to review the NIrV Veggie Tales Bible.

@RGrantJones 3 года назад

LOL! I didn't know was such a Bible!

@deeemm8350 3 года назад

@@RGrantJones Oh, yes; it exists. ISBN: 0310745527 😉

@terryhumberd7546 3 года назад

Love the bible but it is a monster in size compared to my ESV and CSB

@tabasco7915 2 года назад

As I am sure you are aware of, it seems as if most of the updated older translations and the newer ones that have followed have gone in the direction of "gender inclusiveness." It disappoints me that the N.A.S.B. has as well followed suit with their new legacy standard translation. It seems as if they can't leave well enough alone.

@moisesperezgamez5060 3 года назад

2 pages to explain what sin is when 1 John 3:4 clearly defines what it is. "Everyone who sins breaks the law (Torah); in fact, sin is lawlessness" the guys that makes the NIV commentaries has torah phobia.