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The NKVD Making Fools of German Intelligence - Spies & Ties 25 

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Colonel Reinhard Gehlen is head of German military intelligence in the East. He likes to think he’s a master of his craft. But all along he’s been a victim of the NKVD and a man named Max. Gehlen thinks he can hold off the Red Army. But as things go from bad to worse his thoughts will start to turn to the possibility of a new world…
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@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
History doesn't happen in a vacuum, which is why we have three chronological series covering this war: Indy's, Sparty's, and Astrid's episodes. Each one covers a crucial part of the war, and together we hope they create a holistic understanding of the history. We're only able to get into that depth because of all of you in the TimeGhost Army! Join the TimeGhost Army: bit.ly/SAT_025_PI
@MsZeeZed
@MsZeeZed Год назад
Ok this is mad, so under Operation Berezino Stalin betrayed Operation Mars taking the German focus off the Stalingrad flanks, but losing double the troops in Rzhev that the Axis lost in Stalingrad but saving all of the Soviet Union’s Southern oil supply. No wonder Stalin was the only person who could make Zhukov cry.
@Patrick_Cooper
@Patrick_Cooper Год назад
I have also noticed a uptick in other RU-vid channela that at times seem to repost some of their older stuff, and new, that parallels your presentation. Not that I mind. WW2 is my favorite era of history...
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw Год назад
Glad to see Indy using a body double AND wearing a disguise!
@CFarnwide
@CFarnwide Год назад
Astrid… I adore your commentary on these videos! For some reason I can’t help but envision you as one of the adorable Hogwarts Professors in a Harry Potter film. 😊
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 Год назад
Sad moon noises
@erichluepke855
@erichluepke855 Год назад
I know the spies and ties episodes don't get as many views but they are some of my favorites of this channel and I'm so happy to watch them.
@CZiNTrPT
@CZiNTrPT Год назад
Because her voice is really hard to listen too
@yggdrasil4986
@yggdrasil4986 Год назад
I'm saving them for later! I'll binge it soon
@MarkH10
@MarkH10 Год назад
"No one expects the NKVD inquisition!"
@heavystalin2419
@heavystalin2419 Год назад
Yes, Beria, this man right here
@edwardblair4096
@edwardblair4096 Год назад
Thank you. I looked to see if someone else made this comment before posting one of my own.
@henzohewson
@henzohewson Год назад
Beria is literally the Soviet Torquemada
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 Год назад
​@@henzohewson Was Torquemada also a sexual predator?
@RoadToFuture007
@RoadToFuture007 Год назад
@@henzohewson In reality Beria stopped the terror unleashed by trotskists who were in charge before him or he turned the terror against the initial terrorists. But considering that trotskists finaly overtook the USSR (and not only the USSR, i hear that they are big among today's USA establishment too) it is no surprise that you hear that Beria (and Stalin) were the evil. There is even a document where Khrushchev is asking Stalin to increase the limits for death penalties in Ukraine with a writing on it from Stalin: calm down, fool!
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Год назад
This story is essential to understand when moving forward into the Cold War, because Gehlen became head of West German BND, and 200 of his agents were turned as doubles inside the CIA and BND against the US and NATO. The NKVD was way ahead of the power curve in HUMINT and SIGINT dating back to Okhrana from the Czarist times. The Soviets had been tapping diplomatic wires as a rule, while the US didn’t even attempt to encode or conceal cable messages. These dynamics are very important to understand as you study the Cold War and modern day.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
LrrpFco52 💎 dropping mighty knowledge bombs as usual
@sonoftherabbitpeople4737
@sonoftherabbitpeople4737 Год назад
When FDR revealed to Stalin the fact that the US will soon have an atomic bomb, Stalin seemed to already know all about it, somehow.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
@@sonoftherabbitpeople4737 His reaction was reportedly mild interest. "Oh?"
@minhvo8009
@minhvo8009 Год назад
I’m just amazed by how the Soviet can sometimes make ridiculously stupid mistakes while in other occasions created masterfully crafted plans/schemes. They’re like a big bundle of surprises, you just can’t tell what they’re going to do.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Oh yeah! The war was and will continue to be filled with surprises from all sides.
@Casyfill
@Casyfill Год назад
It’s just how reality works on all sides.
@2Links
@2Links Год назад
Every side had strengths and weaknesses. Intelligence was definitely a Soviet strength.
@Lttlemoi
@Lttlemoi Год назад
Would you say they are like a box of chocolates?
@muzixman2011
@muzixman2011 Год назад
@@2Links because British gave important intelligence information to the Soviets through the Lucy Spy Ring, it was not disclosed until the fall of the Soviet Union
@chuckvt5196
@chuckvt5196 Год назад
Great episode! Nice to see Indy and Astrid together and we still got our "darlings" into and outro! Yay! You guys are the best!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thanks, Chuck! We are always happy when you're happy!
@lkjhfdszxcvbnm
@lkjhfdszxcvbnm Год назад
@@WorldWarTwo Is it possible to get a "darlings" from Indy?
@criso6164
@criso6164 Год назад
Really interesting episode, and I always enjoy the quirky and enthusiastic delivery from our Queen Astrid, it is a welcome balance to some of the other content in the series. It is nice to see her allowing one of her servants to sit alongside and throw in the odd comment.
@celticman1909
@celticman1909 Год назад
Now I'm gonna rewatch "Where Eagles Dare" 1968 starring Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. Espionage, double agents, sexy Frauleins and battle action! 🍿
@thylange
@thylange Год назад
You could also watch the "dirty dozen".
@celticman1909
@celticman1909 Год назад
@@thylange Yes, another classic from my childhood years. But it lacks the espionage intique.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
A good choice! Speaking of cult spy movies, soviet "Seventeen Moments of Spring" can also provide a cool spy vibe. - Vasilii
@MsZeeZed
@MsZeeZed Год назад
Where Eagles Dare is a surprising good movie. Every action the spies take going into the castle helps their escape. Every gamble they take with who is or isn’t a double agent in their team gives them a clue to the king of the moles. Its like Le Carré on Pervitin. Richard Burton is drawing on his previous Alec Lemas a little as a spy worn thin by betrayal & performance, there’s a touch of Castle Wolfenstein thrown in courtesy of Clint Eastwood and genuine roles to play for the female spies in fending off the gestapo. Almost James Bond in its realism it has to said, but as exciting as the best Bond movies tbf.
@davebell4917
@davebell4917 Год назад
@@MsZeeZed There are many details that are wrong, but make the movie look good. The Ju52 simply doesn't have the range, but it looks right. It is wonderful storytelling. I wonder if Indy and Astrid could do a piece on it, which warps into a warning about blindly trusting sources that make a good story.
@danielnavarro537
@danielnavarro537 Год назад
British SOE, American OSS, and the Soviet NKVD. All three services performed their duties against their enemies... and their allies. They all defend and held secrets during the war. Providing intelligence, reconnaissance, troop movement, war plans, and much more. I wonder if there are more Axis spies being double agents? But what do I know. All I know is the Allies held a major advantage in the shadow war. Only question remains, are the Allies not spying on each other? Who knows? Very well made video. Godspeed.
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 Год назад
The US had a heavy learning curve. They had gutted much of their overseas intelligence after Stimpson decided gentlemen do not read each other's mail.
@TeikonGom
@TeikonGom 5 месяцев назад
The NKVD were brutal monsters.
@gunman47
@gunman47 Год назад
Very interesting episode here Indy & Astrid, I enjoyed it a lot! Keep up the good work team as always.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thanks, Dickson! We'll keep making it as long as you keep watching!
@iconoclastic12007
@iconoclastic12007 Год назад
“Nobody expects the NKVD!” Thank you SO much for that!!! I’m certain Mr. Cleese appreciates the nudge, nudge, wink, wink!
@mrw9044
@mrw9044 Год назад
Fantastic and very interesting episode! Astrid, imho your narration is much improving. More of a natural flow and cadence. Really enjoyed this one. Looking forward to more Nazi blunders :)
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thank you for the kind words!
@yereverluvinuncleber
@yereverluvinuncleber Год назад
The recent format of these Spies and Ties are a success.
@stoffls
@stoffls Год назад
Spies and ties brings a light element into this war, though also this is a heavy topic. And so much great content!
@waynegordon2628
@waynegordon2628 Год назад
There once was a Nazi named Gehlen Whose faith in his spy was unfailing But there was trouble 'Cause Max was a double Pavel gave Reinhard's ass a railing! Nice show!
@jeffersonwright6249
@jeffersonwright6249 Год назад
Something else Gehlens missed: Bletchley Park! Nobody in Hitler’s Germany ever had any idea that their codes had been cracked by the Allies
@Significantpower
@Significantpower Год назад
Missing over half a million troops and all their equipment and support is quite the error.
@fraternitas5117
@fraternitas5117 Год назад
Cue comparisons to Ukraine in end of 2021 :)
@luttren
@luttren Год назад
@@fraternitas5117 don’t know what you mean. Pretty much everyone knew that the Russians where going to attack
@fraternitas5117
@fraternitas5117 Год назад
@@luttren everyone except the ukrainian government who insisted even up to the weekend before the attack on the record "they did not expect.an attack and to cease rumor mongering." it's on public record, you can look it up. who in addition to that made no additional military preparations, warning the public, military alert drills, martial law, or military call ups. so yeah, complete fucking fail.
@luttren
@luttren Год назад
@@fraternitas5117 yea because everything that the governments know and do is public knowledge.
@miracleyang3048
@miracleyang3048 Год назад
Steppe Front Aka the Ghost front
@KarlWitsman
@KarlWitsman Год назад
Loved the format! Plus this is some good information that not many people know. I have studied some of the era and did not know some of the folks mentioned. Thanks!
@stephenwood6663
@stephenwood6663 Год назад
Nobody expects the NKVD! Among their diverse weaponry are such elements as fear, surprise, an almost fanatical devotion to Comrade Stalin, and nice blue trousers!
@williamdonnelly224
@williamdonnelly224 Год назад
Don't forget ruthless efficiency.
@mikaelcrews7232
@mikaelcrews7232 Год назад
This is a great episode! You two need to do more of these episodes. Your two wardrobes clash and are really nice and it suits both of you. Keep it up!!!!!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Hi Mikael! Thank you very much for watching and for leaving such a nice comment. We appreciate it!
@danielgreen3715
@danielgreen3715 Год назад
Im loving Watching this episode and laughing to myself that it was probably this very 'Network ' of Spies that Gehlen then relied on to feed his Later Paymasters in the CIA for many years! Ohh the irony of it all Cheers Astrid and Indy Good one!😆
@alih6953
@alih6953 Год назад
No wonder the Axis lost. Germany was fighting 3 super powers at once with very little inteliigence about their strength. Yet, the allies knew their every movement
@eggtarts286
@eggtarts286 Год назад
To be fair, Germany had British SOE's number dialed in during the Englandspiel. One out of three is not a very good showing, though.
@XXXXHHHHHTTTTTHHHHHH
@XXXXHHHHHTTTTTHHHHHH Год назад
Think about Hitler declaring war on the USA while himself never having visited the country to see how vast and powerful it was.
@alih6953
@alih6953 Год назад
@@XXXXHHHHHTTTTTHHHHHH They never had to visit the USA, or Russia. How on Earth were 5 million German soldiers going to govern USSR and USA with so much land? It was impossible. It was beyond unrealstic. Even if they had taken Moscow they could not hold it (Napoleon lost it)
@alexroob5686
@alexroob5686 Год назад
@@robertschumann7737 actually the German Army was stopped some days before Moscow before Hitler declared war so that doesnt add up
@davetuttle8861
@davetuttle8861 Год назад
Even if they had better Intel than the allies it means nothing if Hitler ignores the Intel, for example, kursk was a no go according to his Intel but he attacked anyways. Too much of that and you waste all your men and material on losing campaigns until you have nothing left.
@IndianaDiecastRacing
@IndianaDiecastRacing Год назад
Monty Python references while discussing WWII history are the best
@RonaldAndrew
@RonaldAndrew Год назад
Nothing makes me feel better than Astrid referring to me as one of her "darlings". Ok, there is one thing. That would be all the incredible hard work the whole team puts into this amazing series. Thanks so much. Keep filliing my 1/2 full cup please.
@bobbybroadway9513
@bobbybroadway9513 Год назад
It amazed me when reading Gehlen's book when he indicated having met with Hitler personally only once or twice. And even at those times, he says that the conversation was cursory and insignificant. I'm still speculating on what those strange facts might mean. You would have thought an important fellow like Gehlen might even have had his own shacks at Rastenburg and Vinnitsa.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Год назад
Would you say something about the roles of the German and Japanese mafia during the WWII if there were any? The role of the Italian Mafia is well known on the other hand.
@dtaylor10chuckufarle
@dtaylor10chuckufarle Год назад
One of the reasons I like gnädige Frau Astrid is she calls me "darling". Indy does not call me darling.
@jeffreyhuggins3074
@jeffreyhuggins3074 Год назад
Love this information and your video on this, also your shows for years, new formats, and her as well as you, works well to as for them together. Keep up your great 👍 shows and wwll history, THANKS 🙏👍.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thanks Jeffrey! It is always a pleasure to receive such kind words.
@hannahskipper2764
@hannahskipper2764 Год назад
Spies and Ties with Astrid and featuring Indy! I'm glad you're back.
@kittymervine6115
@kittymervine6115 Год назад
Astrid I love how you say "Spies and Ties!"
@williamtomkiel8215
@williamtomkiel8215 Год назад
comes across slightly better than "Voyeurs and Dominance" but YMMV
@naveenraj2008eee
@naveenraj2008eee Год назад
HI Astrid and Indy wonderful episode. Like this series so much. Thanks
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Glad you enjoyed the episode Naveen! Thanks so much for watching.
@abrahamlevi3556
@abrahamlevi3556 Год назад
Gehlen was a very good salesperson. After the dismantling of the OSS in September of 1945 and with the impending cold war, he managed to sell to the Americans that he still had networks of left-behind agents in the USSR. He was so successful in convincing the Americans that he was approved by the them and appointed by Adenauer to be the first director of the BND.
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 Год назад
So the Wehrmacht lost the battle of industrial production, the battle on land, at sea and the air and the battle of intelligence....oof.
@FirstLast-di5sr
@FirstLast-di5sr Год назад
Thank you, excellent high-quality and informative content as always! ❤
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Always happy to bring you our best! Astrid works extra hard on these and it definitely shows!
@LightFykki
@LightFykki Год назад
It is such an interesting fact that while we might today see and analyse these battles from a bird's eye perspective, i.e., knowing all the information later about the military situations across the whole front, at that time the information would be skewed, incomplete, or even completely missing.
@MrGreenotwo
@MrGreenotwo Год назад
Astrid is a gem to this whole series about World War 2. Spartacus Olsson and the W.A.H. series has also opened my eyes to the world during these dark times. News man Indy Neidell with news from the fronts never missing a beat. Most are forgetting of the importance the 'Greatest Generation' did for us... almost like when you don't study history... well you know the rest.
@Panzer4F2
@Panzer4F2 Год назад
Nobody ever expects the inquisition. I mean the NKVD ...
@jerseybob4471
@jerseybob4471 Год назад
Spies &Ties is the best. Reminds me of “Spy vs Spy” in MAD Comics. I served in US Army communications intelligence during the Vietnam War. Nothing had changed.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Hi, thank you for watching! We're very glad you like the series.
@sallyethridge1393
@sallyethridge1393 Год назад
I love your History lessons. Maybe they should include your videos in school History class.
@davidsnow9504
@davidsnow9504 Год назад
Astrid is such a great storyteller. Indy is very "matter of fact". Fantastic!!
@thomasknobbe4472
@thomasknobbe4472 Год назад
No one expects the NKVD. Bring out-the Comfy Chair!
@stevebarrett9357
@stevebarrett9357 Год назад
Several things popped-up during your presentation. Firstly, when Indy said it, I could hear RIchard Basehart (from the documentary, The RIse and Fall of the Third Reich, 1968) where he said that propaganda was 'truth merged with half-truth and lie'. Secondly, the moment you started talking about 'Max', my first thought was maskirovka. I note that I've read in Black Cross+Red Star*, that the air battles leading up to Kursk caused the Germans to take a more conservative approach to aerial recon which doubtless contributed to the Soviet reserves not being identified. Thirdly, it's my perception that Glanz published a work on Operation Mars which (supposedly) the publisher titled Zhukov's Greatest Defeat which subsequently may have caused the removal of access of the Soviet Archives from Western researchers. Finally, in my studies of the Eastern Front/Great Patriotic War, I stumbled across a book, The Red Army Order of Battle in the Great Patriotic War (Poirier and Conner, 1985). I noted in their intro that their first acknowledged reference was records from Fremde Heere Ost. This work was my main reference for a Soviet OB until I found Charles C Sharp's Red Army Order of Battle (1995) which was based on info in the Soviet Archives. A delightful presentation. You folks are awesome.
@celticman1909
@celticman1909 Год назад
Not to mention all the other obvious factors against the Axis. Much research has been done on the era. A very perplexing and compelling time.
@gianniverschueren870
@gianniverschueren870 Год назад
DOUBLE TIE POWER
@israelforreal
@israelforreal Год назад
Great episode. Very funny
@williamdonnelly224
@williamdonnelly224 Год назад
Another fantastic, interesting episode. Thanks so much!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thanks for watching it, William!
@tommo9176
@tommo9176 Год назад
Astrid is all of my favourite professors from both undergrad and postgrade, with a splash of how my made up ultimate professor and a dash of John Travolta. Astrid could literally read the ingredients off a can of tuna 50 times on repeat and I'd want to major in it. Also my grandma was an AMAZING grandma, so kind, loving and a sharp wit. But I live everyday with the guilt of not asking her on her deathbad why she couldn't be have been more like Astrid. I hope I can find the courage to one day forgive her for this absolute failure, Astrid, I know you're very unlikely to ever see this comment - but you are the coolest cat ever. Honestly though in every spies & ties ep you can tell she's highly intelligent, extremely sharp, knows her content but has the dramatic flair to make you listen. Lik this video yeah, who da faq could get away with what Astrid is wearing and make it look so damn cool (it's rhetorical). I mean all presenters are passionate to varying degrees, but NO ONE can match her dramatic flair. You're that one teacher or professor who takes you for an educated ride and LOVES doing it! i could write a novel (in case it wasn't clear) on why she's just the best INSERT ANY NOUN HERE.
@edlepkowicz4478
@edlepkowicz4478 Год назад
Fantastic video!
@masonw4172
@masonw4172 Год назад
That side eye after the pronunciation of Reinhard was hilarious
@efnissien
@efnissien Год назад
I honestly expected when Indy went 'I didn't expect the NKVD' for Sparty to burst in an paraphrase Monty Python.
@chaos-fox
@chaos-fox Год назад
But operation Mars had some effect on Uranus and events around Stalingrad, since the fighting near Rzhev tied down German reserves of Army Group Center. Mars itself had some limited success in form of Velikiye Luki being taken by the Red Army, which later forced Germans to leave from Rzhev salient. It for sure haven’t reached the majority of it’s objectives, but wasn’t as bad as fighting in the same area in summer of 1942.
@nutkanal5209
@nutkanal5209 Год назад
Operation Mars dristracted Army group centre
@lawrencetate145
@lawrencetate145 Год назад
I really like the side by side format. Mix it up with your people. I know you guys will know when it is good, and who it is good with. BTW, the Pythons would applaud the NKVD bit!
Год назад
Nobody expects the NKVD - best line ever!
@Grimspear05
@Grimspear05 Год назад
I just love the whole TimeGhost crew. Thank you all. Your videos make me proud, horrified, laugh, and attentive. Thank you.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Honestly, Sean, I think all of that is precisely what we're aiming for, so we're glad you're getting the full experience! It really means a lot to us that you make the effort to really feel all of it as a viewer. Thanks for being on this journey with us!
@christopherroa9781
@christopherroa9781 Год назад
I was gonna comment on the actual content, but Indy and Astrid's chemistry as friends is just overwhelmingly wholesome
@garcalej
@garcalej Год назад
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” He’s not. He’s just the devil you haven’t met yet.
@espenfredriksen6945
@espenfredriksen6945 Год назад
Antony Beevor point out in its book Stalingrad. The artilleri ammunitions in mars Operation was very much lower then in Uranus operation. Meaning it was a diversion. Toughts on that indy?
@poiuyt975
@poiuyt975 Год назад
6:48 I was hoping it would be "Operation Inquisition". :D
@HEKVT
@HEKVT Год назад
6:38 I feel like "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition" should be turned into "Nobody expects the NKVD"
@ocudagledam
@ocudagledam Год назад
I swear I heard Astrid say "This is pies and ties!" 0:46 That would be delicious and oh, so elegant! EDIT: Love Indie's "Nobody expects the NKVD!" moment at 6:33 :D
@rebell813
@rebell813 Год назад
Pies and ties should be the next timeghost meetup event 🙂
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 Год назад
When discussing Soviet spies shouldn’t one of you be wearing a Trinity tie? It was a popular college with those seeking a career in the KVD after all.
@CFarnwide
@CFarnwide Год назад
Interesting topic! Personally, I’ve never heard about Soviet vs Germany spying. Ive seen plenty about US/UK vs Germany shenanigans but nothing from the Eastern front. I may have to investigate further. Thanks for spurring me on!
@nessunodorme3888
@nessunodorme3888 Год назад
"Silberstreife" doesn't mean "silver lining" or even have the same connotation. It means something like, "silver stripe". It might be possible to think of a stripe as a line but definitely not a lining. I don't know what difference this might make to the ideas presented in this video, but it can't hurt to get things right.
@willynthepoorboys2
@willynthepoorboys2 Год назад
Thank you for the video.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thank you for watching!
@Max_Flashheart
@Max_Flashheart Год назад
Love Spies & Ties Astrid is amazing and Indy well brilliant as always
@cmehustle
@cmehustle Год назад
Astrid looks shocked to find out this information....
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е
6:02 Actually, Mars took place from November, 25 to December, 10 1942, while Uranus was from November, 19 to November, 23.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Indy was speaking of the planned beginning. Uranus was supposed to start on November 17, but was delayed for two days. Mars was always planned for November 25, and began on time. So eight days difference… which is the red flag that Mars couldn’t be a diversion, not even on the planing stage… how do you divert from something that is already over?
@patrickfreeman8257
@patrickfreeman8257 Год назад
And once again I revert to 12 years old. Operation Uranus is about "encircling" the enemy
@MsZeeZed
@MsZeeZed Год назад
That might be why Stalin saw Russian POWs as traitors if had an agent telling him 60% had surrendered
@charlieclark5838
@charlieclark5838 Год назад
Very interesting film and very well presented. A compressed account of this period can be found in Max Hastings The Secret War. It is surprising that as Russia and the 'East' had been the German historic target for decades how poor their intelligence was. Unlike operations against Britain which were rushed and amateurish you'd have expected that against the U.S.S.R. to be of much higher quality and scope although Stalin's state fought an excellent counter campaign !
@markhodge7
@markhodge7 Год назад
Great stuff! Interesting presentation from the duo. Sorry Indy, Astrid will always steal the show. 💖
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
That's because Astrid RUNS the show!
@JasonThu
@JasonThu Год назад
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Год назад
Indy, Astrid seeing you two hosting together was a delight. You two work rather well together and would love to see you two work together again. I really enjoyed this video.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thank you. we enjoy when we get to work together very much!
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Год назад
@@WorldWarTwo---Your welcome
@lewiswestfall2687
@lewiswestfall2687 Год назад
thanks
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia Год назад
Thank you (darlings).
@federicobettin8862
@federicobettin8862 Год назад
Can you make a video about Wojtek the bear in WWII?
@Turtle76rus
@Turtle76rus Год назад
It should be noted that the story about intentionally leaking the details of Mars mainly comes from one source - the memoirs of Pavel Sudoplatov, which is not exactly the best material. For example, Aleksei Isaev, one of the more prominent modern Russian WW2 historians, plainly states (though deferring to Igor Petrov, who in turn quotes the works of Winfried Meyer) that the whole story was made up by Sudoplatov (or his editors) to cover up his mistakes during Mars, when the Soviet intelligence completely failed to notice a significant German mobile reserve near Smolensk, which was masterfully used during the early stages of Mars. According to Petrov (sorry, can't check the original Meyer work), Demyanov was known as Agent Flamingo and basically had nothing to do with Mars. Agent Max in reality was Ira Longin, a Russian emigrant in Bulgaria and perhaps the most amazing con man of WW2, pretending to lead a secret monarchist organisation in USSR and selling information from Bulgarian newspapers to German intelligence for huge sums of money. While the report from Max about the upcoming Soviet offensives does indeed exist and is quoted in full in Gehlen memoirs, it is quite vague, mentions a few operations that never happened, and misses the date of the offensive. On the other hand, the reports of the 9th Army Intelligence show that the army command clearly knew about the upcoming Rzhev offensive and tracked the Soviet preparations using air reconnaissance and information from deserters, so Gehlen barely played any role in the German response.
@neilokeefe9647
@neilokeefe9647 Год назад
Astrid is great. I love her tone of voice.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
She knows how to command the room, that's for sure!
@robertsantamaria6857
@robertsantamaria6857 Год назад
Let's not forget what Gehlen does after the war, convincing the Western Allies that HE is the true genius spy master. So who pulled the biggest con?
@stuartbrown2111
@stuartbrown2111 Год назад
nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm
@j.granger1120
@j.granger1120 Год назад
Astrid has the better tie, this week. I had a pale green tie like Indy's in the late 1970's, it was a mistake. Max had no choice, the NKVD put him in Germany, but they still had his family.
@334outdoors8
@334outdoors8 Год назад
Is it just me or is Astrid’s hair getting crazier every episode
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 Год назад
Interesting video
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Thanks!
@Spiderfisch
@Spiderfisch Год назад
Who wasnt making a fool of the german intelligence Even some members of it were in on the joke
@markmildorf2873
@markmildorf2873 Год назад
Thanks for the Python reference!!
@pattygman4675
@pattygman4675 Год назад
I could be mistaken, the wolf’s lair 1:54. The officer on the left in the light coloured jacket, Would that be none other than col. Claus von Stauffenberg (spoiler alert) who would go on with the most successful attempt to assassinate Hitler. And almost pull off operation Valkyrie. Also portrayed by Tom Cruise.
@Spiderfisch
@Spiderfisch Год назад
And of course we only see the side which doesnt include his defining features
@pattygman4675
@pattygman4675 Год назад
@@Spiderfisch I just found the exact image on line. It confirmed my suspicion. It is col. Claus Von Stauffenberg. Not bad for my old pair of eye’s. 😁
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 Год назад
Reinhard Gehlen remained in the employment of the US government for the rest of his life. Most of what I have read and heard about him says that he really wasn't very useful.
@vitoravila9908
@vitoravila9908 Год назад
Nobody expects the NKVD 😅😅
@od1452
@od1452 Год назад
Hitlers determination to attack Kursk has always puzzled me . The numerous delays would indicate to anybody it was a bad idea. But Hitler didn't see it that way. Are we missing something?
@tomricketts7821
@tomricketts7821 Год назад
Commissar Biggles fetch the comfy chair
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 Год назад
If Gehlen had thought too loudly about later usage by the western allies after the war before it actually was over, he probably wouldn't have survived it...
@zapperDK
@zapperDK Год назад
"Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!"
@patrickhutchison6465
@patrickhutchison6465 Год назад
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is the entire basis for the western allies alliance with the Soviets. It is the only thing they have in common.
@tomservo56954
@tomservo56954 Год назад
So...Gehlen went looking for cunning linguists.
@marcoestebancarrionc
@marcoestebancarrionc Год назад
We missed Astrid!! :D
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo Год назад
Hi Esteban, thanks so much for watching! She is wonderful, isn't she? 😊
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
...Then we used the Nazis "expertise" to start up the CIA 😆 which has been penetrated up the kazoo by the KGB since day one
@scottklocke891
@scottklocke891 Год назад
Black humor!
@Spiderfisch
@Spiderfisch Год назад
And dont forget Nasa
@tomservo56954
@tomservo56954 Год назад
At least Truman didn't want J. Edgar Hoover in charge....
@michaelgreen1515
@michaelgreen1515 Год назад
Never Forget❣
@KraytTheGreat
@KraytTheGreat Год назад
Fun fact: Gehlen later build the foreign intelligence service of western Germany.
@bapsteratheart
@bapsteratheart Год назад
I expected the Spanish Inquisition.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Год назад
Most attractive, enjoyable introducing of this spying 🕵️‍♂️ games exchanged between [ German Viamar- Nazism regime] & USSR at other side's also introduced informative video about same matter...allot thanks for sharing..
@andrewbaker5081
@andrewbaker5081 Год назад
Both of you hilarious 😁
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