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The reason why the future’s past keeps on haunting us because we, as a society, went horribly wrong along the way. We lost our sense of the meaning of life and, in turn, have become wrapped up in seeking a future that _could_ have been.
@@HovisSteve, that depends on who we’re talking about here. If it’s the American south losing then American civil war, then yes. If it’s Nazism, then no.
@Weapons Of Mass Distraction, no, it is a definite “we.” After all, the elites pulling the levers wouldn’t have gotten anywhere if people didn’t actually believe what they proposed.
I really got into this concept a few years back when I moved to where I live now: the property was made in 1958 and I became interested in “mid-century modern” as a design concept. Where I live there are bits of late 1950s “hopeful” futurism all around. Very very interesting this mate.
You can tell which youtubesmen go for walks and which do not. You simply cannot reach this level of insight and clarity sat down; I don't care how many fancy books you read.
Reminiscing for the 90's is bittersweet, whilst I miss the simpler happier times, it was when we were sold a toxic bag of magic beans whilst being distracted by Gail Porters arse & Gazza's goal against Scotland
I went by my old elementary school the other day, which is set to be torn down soon and replaced with a bigger more modern one. The feeling of nostalgia almost knocked me over, but it had a sense of gloom to it. Who would have though as a child that things would turn out the way they have.
I went past my secondary school, the front was originally a big playground, it's been turned into a car park. I can see the ghosts of past pupils laughing and running around though
@@mooseyman74 I seriously hope you took pictures of it. My favourite playground as a kid got torn down too. It was already old back in my day (possibly built in the 50's) and it was like an oval L-shape of grass with sand islands cut into a small forest area with big trees. It was kind of gloomy and already in a "liminal" state, many kids and parents avoided it but I loved it. I absolutely can't find any pictures of it anywhere, except for grainy old satellite images. It seems that of all members of all the generation who played there, including me, nobody cared enough about it to at least take a picture (or at least publish one). So the place disappeared over night, including many of the trees, and now is a total ghost which comes to haunt me once in a while...
We've been culturally bankrupt for some time. You can see that no real music or art in any form gets produced. You could take any piece of work post 2000 and claim it was produced by anyone st any other time and nobody would know otherwise. This is a clear indicator of a dead culture and will only lead to civilisational collapse. We need to become the barbarians that follow a different path now.
@@ramblingimbecile2295 Most art and music post 2000, has been released by those with a low barrier to entry, and an array of digital technology with nothing to say, and no soul or intellect to speak of. It's one giant sausage machine...
That is really the main takeaway. People are reaching into their past because of how bad these cultural things are in the present. Of course, they only look good in comparison to the utter crap being made today. Music and movies of the 80s and 90s were not that great.
@Mush Man Every decade has its share of good and bad, but maybe the 1970s was less bad. However go back to the European Classical eras 17th and 18th century, and the calibre of music would put some of the 20th century to shame.
The real, and probably the subconscious reason for nostalgia, is that white western people miss the times when there were more white people around. They miss an era when there were still more white implicitness, white neighborhoods, movies and series with white actors, white meeting places and social gatherings and so on. That is the main reason for all kinds of retro and nostalgia. Even the trendy white self-hating anti-racists feels like this. All white people want to go back to something many of them never experienced. The 80s was probably the final decade with some form of prevalent white dominance. That is the reason why the 80s is so loved and wanted.
My hatred of things now is equal to Kylie and Jason in the 80's and Spice Girls in the 90's, it's just there's nothing left in the mainstream to distract you from the horror for even a moment anymore.
I love to tinker in my garage and around my house.. making my property better, bit by bit, there's something extremely satisfying about it, I'm at total peace doing that kind of thing.
Yeah I love making stuff, fixing too though generally that requires better/more tools and more choice of materials to do it properly. I cannot understand people who do not want to maintain things and to make new things, people who are just users of things and who don’t build on it,
I was just having this conversation with my wife the other day. I was saying when I grew up in the 90s the oldies music station played music from the 60s/70s. The rock station I listened to played music from the 90s. Fast forward 30 years. That same rock station still plays most of its music from the 90s, despite it now being considered older than the oldies station at the time. Nothing came to displace the rock music and the 90s music never transferred to the oldies station. Cultural progression has just seemed to stop. I didn’t profess to have an answer as to why, but this video actually gives a very persuasive idea as to why. I had never considered some type of cultural saturation.
I remember before I became "redpilled", ranting and raving in pubs five pints deep trying to explain to the old men at the bar how it felt as though time stopped in the 90's, and everything since then has just been rehashes and nostalgia. Being unable to forget the past in any way, and having everything at one's fingertips is not natural, and it shows with all of our behaviour.
Same. I could never explain it but it felt like everyone was just reviving old trends because no one knew how to create new ones. All music in the post 9/11 world was reviving something from the past. Literally nothing new has come from pop culture since Nu-Metal and pop punk. Taylor Swift had the only platinum album of 2014 with her release title “1989”. Nobody wants to face the future because there isn’t one to dream about. Everyone wants to go back to the past when people were optimistic about the future. This is what nihilism causes.
Interesting, this might not make sense but I think most people here are 'synced' to whats normal now on a metaphysical level, so its hard for them to understand such sentiments, you see it with the masks and all that, they've lost spiritual connection to the 'old normal', its probably how they are able to enjoy the awful TV music etc. somehow a few people are immune to changes in the fabric of reality / consciousness.
@An Austrian Painter I know what your saying but Blair actually did destroy England. The change was far more catastrophic than even the Clinton filth were able to acheive.
Even the early 2000s and the ideas that the decade had about the future seem to me like a paradise compared to the absolute state of utter decay and misery we are currently living in (the thing that I hate most about post 2012, hyper accelerated world are smartphones.. oh how I fucking hate smartphones..).. the dystopian future is here.. just much more *word that meant "happy" back in the day* and without all the cool stuff. Thanks for the vid, Morgoth. Keep up the good work, stay frosty & God Bless!
I once tried to an experiment, where I sat down and imagined a life where I haven't seen, heard, smelled or felt anything. This was an attempt to imagine the present without any influence of the past, or concepts for rhe future. What I saw was a world trying to hide it's inadequacies in a Golden Age that has long gone, and how I tried to have my own Archaic Revival. I am older now... And had to learn one of the hardest things in my life... Letting Go.
This is probably some of your best work. This, Deep fried human nuggets, the Borg episode and the Gregorian chant are just great insights. Really enjoy your work and hope you get great satisfaction out of what you do. Others and maybe even yourself see you just as a factory worker, but I wanted you to know you're much more than that. So I just wanted to thank you.
I've noticed something strange about the 2000s, especially before the market crash of 2008. It's especially strange because the feelings and values evoked by, in my case, the movies, TV shows, and even Internet culture from those years are eerily similar our own today with the exception that it was more optimistic, less victim-obsessed, and that the people were still mostly white. Maybe it's because I wasn't aware of the replacement going on at the time and that I was still bluepilled, but when I watch those movies and whatnot, I see the time we're living in now except that everything went right. Mind you, I'm not a fan of the globohomo values those movies pushed. It goes without saying that I prefer the idealized 1930s - 1950s life rather than the idealized 2000s life. But despite my disagreement with those neo-liberal values that were then on the cusp of becoming mainstream, the feeling of nostalgia is still there, but in some different form. Like a "we couldn't even have that" rather than a "we had that". Take Eurotrip as an example. Despite the filthy habits that movie glorified, there is something exceptionally depressing about the idea that blowing off an internship after having just graduated from college is likely not to be a serious set-back in life.
@@Astrajet As things get more obviously bad there will probably be a generation that won't. The West was still on this same path we are on now back in the 80's and 90's, it just wasn't apparent to us at the time. There weren't as many symptoms and the ones that were there were much more subdued.
The past keeps cropping up because we feel we've fucked up somewhere and we are desperatly trying to go back to try and fix it. Its like a time machine, but if we've learned anything from fiction, its that tampering with the past has consequences, but we keep trying like fools. Best to keep looking forward than backwards.
Excellent work as always Morgoth - at least one benefit of the modern age is one man in the north of England can have his voice heard by thousands of listeners! I was born just before the Milenium and you hit the nail on the head, nearly all the music I listen to is from the 90s, I used to think I was born in the wrong generation especially after hearing what my parents/uncles/aunts used to get up to. There is a whole meme about being born in the wrong generation but what do you expect if we just have a vapid, manafactured culture where we are eitheir always looking back or just mindless consumerists of whatever trend we are told to follow. I still have hope that things will change and the nostalgia cope will eventually run out and we will be forced to finally carve out our own place In the world.
The way forward won’t be to build something futuristic but to build something future proof. The problem of retro futurism is its attempt to revive something that had built-in obsolescence. The pursuit should be for that which is timeless and eternal. This is why classical architecture is still seen as relevant after 2000 years and modern architecture is knocked down in less than 50 years.
I grew up in the 70's and took the music and football of the era for granted. I now look back and wonder why Jimmy Page, Richie Blackmore and The Who were never replaced. Today's musicians may well be more technically gifted but where is the soul? Remember when Aberdeen won the Cup Winners' Cup with 11 Scotsmen? Our world has long passed but technology keeps us sane by giving us access to a golden era our children will never experience. Maybe the guy in the shed just likes 80's music, who knows? I only listen to the 70's and have two wonderful young children here in Bulgaria, a long way from the place I grew up in. Indeed, the place I grew up in no longer exists.
Late 90`s music became a re imagined impression of the 60`s and 70`s. I think we envied the freedoms previous generations enjoyed or appeared to enjoy. Their freedoms were evident in the indulgent experimental art, film and music culture we tried to compete with but ultimately imitated.
I don’t know what’s worse, false prophecy or a false promise. Aaron Clarey said this afternoon a thing that goes along the line of “Where you came from is gone. Where you are going was never there. Where you are, is no good unless you can get away from it.”
That quote was actually from a 1979 movie called "Wise Blood", which was based on a novel by Flannery O'Connor. It was also sampled in the beginning of "Jesus Built my Hotrod" by Ministry (which is where I know it from)
@Mush Man Are you sure? I've seen fans of BreadTube claiming that they were former fans of the anti feminist Skeptics and Boomer conservatives until the likes of Shaun and Contrapoints "saved" them from becoming "fascist". In other words, I don't consider that taking the blue pill, that's more like poisoning themselves with BreadTube sophistry and then become progressives (again).
That's the problem with noticing things. Once you notice, one can't unnotice. The amount of things I liked that have, at the very least, been diminished because of this is getting quite extensive to say the least.
On your final note, I'd highly recommend 'Meditations' by Marcus Aurelius (or any works by the Stoics for that matter) for those interested in a life lived according to the Classical Philosophy of Stoicism. He is one of the few instances in history where Platos ideal of the Philosopher-King has manifested. A lot of valuable wisdom to be found in the Stoic school of thought.
"About the future I only can reminisce For what I've had is what I'll never get And although this may sound strange My future and my past are presently disarranged And I'm surfing on a wave of nostalgia for an age yet to come"
Society unconsciously fears the eternal plateau more than the fantasy of some eschatological calamity this is why the past , as data, becomes a means of production for nostalgia and gives us a false sense of avoiding the imagined end of history ahead of us. At least then we fool our selves into thinking we are avoiding this destiny, this finality, by over producing the penultimate,...in bad faith. Unfortunately, the plateau is an endless reconfiguration of mediocrity disguised as nostalgia. The end of History cannot come soon enough.
@@platogenova9573 he did used to be a bit more interesting/palatable. I used to watch him around 2013-17 or so, was always more redpilled than him though, it’s frustrating how he hasn’t really progressed at all but reality is in constant motion, to not agree with us NOW is even crazier than thinking what we say is a bit far fetched in like 2013. Some of the stuff he says, well, it’s like “how are you still saying that”, obsolete for sure. Overall verdict - mostly not worth your time, but better than most.
@@floodedcuts101 id like to push that on a stage, I think we had tech at the crest of it’s ‘useful’ wave. We had it all when it wasn’t invasive but quite fun/useful.
Living in the Far East, having left the north of England in 1980, it never fails to surprise me how folks here perceive the UK. It's a 'cake tin' confected land of James Herriot, Sherlock Holmes and Hogwarts. Then after their first trip to England, they return disillusioned and confused. They never found the media-created place, which wasn't there in the first place. Lastly, 'a woke tumour waving a crass flag' is a superb summation.
Your videos keep getting better. You pull together many seemingly disparate ideas into a meaningful critique of where we are. You undoubtedly make the most diverse (ironic really) content on YT for those of us beyond the political pale.
Is that precisely what we (generally speaking) are nostalgic for? Or is it our unique interactions with and amongst it, along with friends and family? I get your point though. But I think in some ways, from a certain perspective, nostalgia is the last wholesome thing we have left in mainstream culture.
@@dirtypure2023 My point was manufactured culture, of course, I distinguish that from real experience and memories formed with those you interacted with.
The Orb's "fluffy little clouds" and Live93 was my sound of the 90s - and I hate myself for falling into the trap and the reshaping of mind and body it wrought
In a way, the events of the past year have been one long yearning for the past: people my age for example, who were born just a little too late to have any sort of meaningful nostalgia for the 90s or earlier, lament the times where they could do simple things like go out or enjoy entertainment that couldn't be accessed or appreciated at home. Unfortunately, this means that in a bid to strive towards normalcy and in this case a post CVD future, the progressives have control on what that is more than ever before. It's time to stop looking at the past and instead decide what comes next.
Fantastic video, the images certainly aided in the impact of your message. As a zoomer I can see this in the youngest media form: video games, which at around 2007-2010 completely peaked. There have been endless reboots and remasters since. So unless you’re a bugman there is almost nothing new to experience from the medium especially as I find the idea of a VR headset a transhuman nightmare. It is certainly a good example of how technology doesn’t allow cultural forms to be left behind as you can always just load it back up.
I miss the early 90s rave scene and I wish I could have enjoyed the rise of grunge in America. Or go back to the 80s in America. The last truly happy time was Euro 96 - there was a real buzz in the uk, the music was great (happy hardcore and jungle, garage was good trance was getting big) It was the last year before Labour came in
And if only Gazza had been two inches taller and toe-poked that cross into the net in the golden goal period against Germany, how different it all might've been...
When the night is cold and dark, start a fire. When the world is gray and ugly, make something beautiful. The ghost of the past smothers the uncreative future, and I am glad. this video made me feel so much better, thank you
I've been saying for some time that we need to stop looking at the past for inspiration because those past moments are what led us here in the first place. We need a whole new way of thinking, a new culture must spring forth and offer an alternative way of life that can compete with neo-liberalism and defeat it
The internet has destroyed us, we didn’t need or have it before and we still had a good life. Smart phones are probably the most destructive thing that’s ever happened to society!
We have collective longing for nostalgia because we subconsciously know that somewhere along the way we took a wrong turn and went down the wrong path.
One of Mark Fisher’s quotes was that 20th century culture is being beamed into the modern day on ever more technical televisions and computers. I have noticed his talks popping up for some reason, maybe music and film are just dead art forms and we need to find something else. I was in a beer garden today and all of the music being played was from the 80s and 90s. Will this stuff still be played in twenty years time?
I've always wondered why you can identify every post-war decade by its style more or less until about y2k. After that, everything became retro. My explanation was demographics, less youth = less youth culture = less specific style. But the rise of the internet seems just as plausible. Great video as always Morgoth.
@@zachariebolduc7931 A new aesthetic based on old aesthetics, the aesthetic of seeing exactly where we are, and exactly how we got here, through the lens of knowing exactly where we were going at a time when we had no clue. Watching our past selves foolishly flail in vain.
Brilliant vid, man. I’ve noticed a trend amongst both my right-wing and left-wing friends (at least my left-wing friends who aren’t brainwashed by woke nonsense) to basically mourn the place we’re at now, as a society and culture-to wonder where it all went wrong. Even something as recent as the internet itself is being bemoaned in some leftist circles on Twitter as something that’s now been corralled and sanded down into corporate pablum. I’m not a leftist at all, but it’s interesting to see this disillusionment with the neoliberal/woke capitalism model that’s become so prevalent. That being said, I think there are unfortunately plenty of people who still delude themselves into believing in a myth of progress, and will follow the neoliberal train to whatever conclusion it’s going to reach simply on the mistaken belief that things are supposedly “always getting better.”
An excellent video on the matter. You mentioned "Hauntology" and I remember a video by a leftist here on RU-vid did a good video essay on the subject. It seems even the left shares this feeling with us, they just can't explain why; or most of all, admit their hand in bringing this about. But I myself have said this for years now, in America the music industry is perpetually stuck in the 2000's.
Yeah, I think that everpresent, invariable drum beat in the background music of 95% of popular songs started back then. It does have a name but I forget.
Aesthetically, the only things that were able to generate new designs that were actually nice, after the 70’s, with few exceptions, were things that didn’t really exist back then, industrial design for tech, that’s about it. Look at cars, aside from a few companies nobody managed to introduce anything new that was genuinely nice after the 80’s started. Everything seems to run it’s course very quickly, or get hijacked and crashed. Houses got ugly before cars - by the 20’s in UK most new houses were ugly mock Tudor at best, by the 50’s it was game over. Cars obviously aren’t as old as houses, in the 20’s they were beautiful, in the 50’s, still nice, not anymore. I wonder when computers will become unbearably ugly, as normal people couldn’t buy them till the 70’s. I always think to myself if they make the stuff ugly, who will buy it? Then I say, “oh, but they made the houses and cars ugly, didn’t they...”. No idea how people can tolerate it. I’m always trying to escape ugliness. Imo it’s not skin deep, nobody who isn’t ugly on the inside in some way, even if it’s just low T flouride-brain apathy, can tolerate ugliness. Natural man wants to populate his surroundings with his essence, make everything “home”. If some newbuild can suffice as your “home” I wonder if there’s very much inside at all, what nature is being outpoured in that?
I would argue there is leftwing nostalgia, just wrapped up by many layers of irony because the naked truth would disturb them. Take MST3K and enthusiasm for "so bad it's good" cinema. While not exclusive to the left, the idea of an ironic classic does fit into their myth of progress while embracing the past.
I think you're missing a bigger point, especially about music. Nobody can relate to the new music being put on the radio today because it's so bad. It's rhythmic log beating. With so much modern stuff being lousy, people go to their past. The same is true of movies. All the modern movies suck and are loaded up with progressive messaging and so people watch old movies.
Basically how people are drowning themselves into the perception and aesthetics of the past, because people may be trying to relive their memories or idolize their lives in 'what ifs' eras of the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's. Which may explain why most forms of art and entertainment are stagnant nowadays; filled with nostalgic reimaginings and remakes of old properties and ideas. And why people are so drawn to media and art from ages past, but that's only because we know things should be better, and at this moment in time, they're not. People are longing for a better future, but it depend on if they're really willing to make the commitment and sacrifice for that future. Because you and me are far past the points where we can sit under the trees that were grown for our parents, grandparents and greats. Those trees that they once sat under are now wilted and fruitless for us. New trees must be planted and new nations are to be built, the cycle of empires is quickly beginning anew and the founders of the new worlds have already even born. The question is will it be us to plant those seeds, or our children or our children's children?
Nothing dies, nothing lives, all around me is sound yet i hear not a word, i see every colour before me and only behold blinding white, i have a open mouth and must be silent.
