The NRSVCE Illustrated Catholic Bible 

It could be that publishers haven't discovered that market yet. Perhaps things will change if Schuyler's RSV Quentel with the Apocrypha sells well. Thanks for commenting, Finian!

@@RGrantJones the new Schuyler RSV is certainly tempting. I probably won't ever spend $200 on a Bible unless it makes the appropriate Catholic changes like the RSV2CE (e.g. "virgin," "full of grace," "only-begotten," etc.)

Completely agree

@@NnifWald - Even if you and others of like mind don't purchase it, my hope is that if the Schuyler RSV with Apocrypha sells well, other publishers will discover the market for high-end Bibles that include the Deuterocanonical books. The publisher of this Illustrated Catholic Bible may then be encouraged to bring out a goatskin edition, for instance. Perhaps it's a pipe dream on my part.

If you understood what was going on in the world right now, and who is orchestrating it - you wouldn’t be praising anything Catholic!

Thanks for sharing your opinion regarding the genuine leather edition, Rudy!

Thanks for commenting, Rachel! It is a very attractive Bible, and I hope it sells well, in order to encourage the publishers to continue producing Bibles with good paper, print, and binding.

I agree, krjohnson29. Thanks for commenting!

It is a beauty! Thanks for commenting, Moving About and Manipulating Objects!

Thanks for the kind comment, Larrym!

Thanks for the encouraging comment, DinoDino! I hope you enjoy it.

Thanks for the kind comment, Donald!

@@RGrantJones You’re welcome. I forgot to mention St. Faustina as such the inspiration for the Dive Mercy celebration.

Thanks for the kind comment, Mark!

Thanks for commenting, Thrift Store Bibles!

Thanks for the kind words, Mike!

That's a good question, Tim. It could be that their market research suggested that sales will be stronger in the Commonwealth nations. Thanks for the kind comment!

I wonder the same thing, Paul. But perhaps the update will be so mild that it won't matter. Thanks for the encouraging comment!

@@RGrantJones Check out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rk_h5RXfOco.html. I think the changes may be more extensive than we think (20,000 changes in total)!

@@paulcollins6732 - Perhaps. I skimmed through the document Thrift Store Bibles features in the video, and the changes seemed mild to me. But the number 20,000 does put it in a different light.

Personally, based on the changes I have seen, I may actually prefer the original NRSV over the Updated Edition.

@@williamockham5284 Yes, I prefer the original NRSV. Many of the changes were not improvements but made it less accurate.

Yes, it has some very nice features. Thanks for commenting, IG 4WDI!

@@RGrantJones I just picked up this Bible today and wow it is beautiful. It even adds the prayer of Azariah and the other additions that were in the Latin Vulgate to this Bible in order. It is very unique.

I agree. Thanks for commenting, M.A. Moreno!

I'd definitely like to see such a Bible with opaque paper; dark, line-matched text; and a sewn binding. Thanks for commenting, Peter!

Thank you for that kind remark, z853c! If they desire to keep production costs down, I wonder why publishers don't encourage the development of printers in other countries where labor is inexpensive.

Thank you for the kind words, Sagar!

@@RGrantJones Your Most Welcome.

Or you could put it in a Bible cover, or just use a book sock (if those are sold in the UK). Thanks for commenting!

Thanks for the encouragement, Gilbert! I just Googled the Worthy Word 1846 Illuminated Bible, and it is impressive. I wonder how it compares to the edition available at GreatSite.com.

@@RGrantJones I believe the Greatsite edition is larger than the Worthy Word edition (though the Worthy Word edition is the same size as Greatsite's "regular" 1611 KJV, which is plenty big enough for me). I ordered the Worthy Word edition and it's one of my favorite Bibles. I was a bit concerned about ghosting with all the illustrations, but it's really not an issue, and I'd heartily recommend it to anyone interested. Someone scanned a copy of the original 1846 edition at archive.org if you're interested in seeing how the illustrations are laid out in the text. (I tried to post a link but RU-vid doesn't seem to be letting me)

Thanks for commenting, acardnal! Like you, I would be more enthusiastic if it were in the RSV2CE. I don't recall seeing an RSV2CE published by anyone other than Ignatius Press, even though the National Council of Churches owns the copyright.

Try the Ave Press RSV 2CE Note Taking Bible with imitation leather. There may be 20% promo code via various sites, though the offer may since have expired. Includes all references to the CCC, but excludes timeline/glossary etc.

Some of the more out-of-the-way Bibles I review were recommended by viewers. This particular edition was suggested by a publisher.

Thanks for commenting, Asereko8! I don't have any experience with the New Catholic Bible. From what I can tell, it's a new translation. You can read it online at BibleGateway.com.

@@RGrantJones Thank you 😊

I would choose the ESV-CE. Thanks for the question, Parker.

@@RGrantJones Thank you for the response, Dr. Jones. By chance, have you seen the Cambridge Cornerstone ESV-CE, and do you have any thoughts on it?

@@Ambrose_op - no, I haven't seen it in person. From the photos, it looks like a simple text Bible, like the ESV-CE I reviewed a few years ago.

You can get printed anglicized editions of the ESV and NIV in the UK. Try Amazon UK, Bible Society and SPCK and see if they can deliver to Jamaica.

Thanks for commenting, Edward! I have an Anglicized ESV -- evangelicalbible.com sold them about a decade ago --, but I've not seen an Anglicized NIV. This particular Bible has some very nice features, and it makes me hopeful that the trend toward higher quality publications from the publishers will continue.

@@timcrouch4801 Great, I will look into this. Thank you.

@@RGrantJones In my opinion, I think this is where Bible publishing should be focused now. I think we have enough very good English translations, so focusing on the presentation of the text should be their main focus. Thinlines or at least thin and personal or handsized Bibles are what the majority of people seem to want but at the same time they don't want to lose the readability and thickness of the paper. I'm not sure that the physics can work in their favour but that's what they want. Large enough print in a small package where they can take notes and underline with minimal to no ghosting or bleed through. This is what publishers should be focusing on, how can we do this, if it's even possible to get this done. I for one am not the greatest fan of thinlines because of their small print and often things like concordances, full set of translators notes, maps or even references and paper quality are sacrificedto cut down on thickness and if they are included, the font size is so small, it's practically unreadable. That being said, I like the direction publishers like Zondervan and Thomas Nelson are going. You're even getting raised hubs on leathersoft Bibles, two thick double sided satin ribbons and decent paper. All this make for a better Bible reading experience, which is what you want, people reading their Bibles. It's time for Crossway and to a lesser extent Holman to catch up, especially with their ribbons, not Crossway and Holman Bibles have some terrible ribbons and the Crossway has some very tissue thin paper. At least their fonts are very nice, but the comfort print of Zondervan and Thomas Nelson are boss at the moment. They are headed in the right way I believe.

Thanks for commenting, Michael! The ISBN is the same, so another possibility is that 'Thomas Nelson Bibles' is an error in CBD's description. Perhaps someone who purchases it through CBD will let us know.

@@RGrantJones Oh, I see that now. For some reason, when I search by ISBN, it showed no matches. It's probably an error by CBD. This looks like a really neat Bible. Not many that have these kind of historic illustrations.

I think it was deliberate. The intro to Jude in the Challoner Douay-Rheims calls him 'brother to St. James the Less.' But the intro to James says 'It was written by the apostle ST. JAMES, called THE LESS, who was also called THE BROTHER OF OUR LORD, being his kinsman (for cousins german with the Hebrews were called brothers)."

@@RGrantJones Thanks!

Baronius press has a Douay Rheims in Large print and the paper is print without bleed through. Their "flexible" bonded leather is actually stiff like a hard back but if your criteria is big print and thick paper...this one is good on both points. It is sewn binding but the signatures are a little uneven but it does not detract from the strong points I mentioned.

No, sorry. I can't think of any.

Thanks for commenting, Alan! I hope to review the NRSV Updated Edition and the full LSB once they're available. The Updated ASV doesn't interest me much -- I like the archaic language in the original. To answer your question, no, I haven't been to an Orthodox church since around 2005. But I do agree with them on several fairly significant points.

@@RGrantJones Although it may not interest you, I hope you do review the updates ASV as well, when it is available to you. I am interested to know in terms of literalness, how it scores compared to the Legacy Standard Version and NASB20.

That was my reaction when I first took it out of the box. Thanks for commenting, Masto!

If you're in the US, you can buy it here www.christianbook.com/nrsvce-illustrated-catholic-comfort-leather-black/9780785239635/pd/239631 or here www.amazon.com/NRSVCE-Illustrated-Catholic-Leathersoft-Comfort/dp/0785239634 .

The Deuterocanonical books are included. I'm not sure what you mean by 'chapters.' In each book, the text is divided into chapters.

@@RGrantJones does it have all the 18 Deuterocanonical books. i could not see them all in the index. only few i suppose

@@vinodfurtado - it has the standard set that are published in Catholic Bibles in America. It omits 2 and 3 Maccabees, for instance, and Psalm 151.

@@RGrantJones Please suggest me one with all books apocrypha + good font size 12 /13 + price no constraint [ 50 -60$]

@@vinodfurtado - do you need an NRSV, or would an ESV do? Cambridge publishes both translations in editions with the additional books. I've reviewed an NRSV here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wIsv0vN3Gk8.html and an ESV here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2hpylgBLfbc.html .

I believe there will be a leather-over-board option also -- much more expensive, though. The less expensive imitation leather edition would be a good candidate for a rebind. Thanks for commenting!

Fellow Catholic here. I’m inclined to agree. I just looked up this Bible and the real leather version is also hardcover. What do Catholic publishers have against nice, floppy leather bound bibles? So much effort went into this Bible only to be either artificial leather or hardcover.

I don't think you'd honestly be able to tell much difference between this imitation leather cover and a high quality genuine leather one. In fact it seems to be much higher quality than many genuine leather versions I have held. I expect it will age quite nicely too, but we shall see. Personally I no longer can justify buying real leather bibles anymore given the abundance of high quality imitation leather versions these days and the sad realities of modern industrial animal agriculture.

@Neil D The imitation leather has as been getting a lot better, and the stuff on this particular Bible is fantastic. This isn't the cheap stuff that one typically thinks of.

Beautiful bible

That could be published next year, followed almost immediately by the Revised New Revised Jerusalem Bible Updated Edition!

A Catholic Bible has the deuterocanonical books.

@@dannySG61 You mean the 'Apocrypha'.. or other books also..? So none of the other 'RSV type bibles will have the deuterocanonical books... just the 'catholic' versions.. and which one's are they..? And why do the non catholic versions exist?

the books are the Deuterocanonical books(the apocryphal books) These consist of seven books: Tobias, Judith, Baruch, Ecclesiasticus, Wisdom, First and Second Machabees(also certain additions to Esther and Daniel) wich are found in the septuagint(The Greek Old Testament) the dead sea scrolls and in the vulgate( the latin translation of the bible) and these books are used by catholics the orthodox and i think some sects of the protestants use them and this is a link for someone explaining why they have extra books in the bible ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IUxPTZS7cEY.html note there are more apocryphal books used by orthodox sects alone like psalms 151 3 - 4 Machabees the book of jasher , enoch etc

Interesting question! I believe the RSV New Oxford Annotated Bible (NOAB) started the trend toward Bibles with a larger number of Apocryphal works. The RSV NOAB was intended to be useable by Eastern Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants. As a result, it includes 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, 1 Esdras, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 2 Esdras, works that aren't normally included in the Catholic canon. The NRSV version of the NOAB also included those books. And now one can find other editions of the NRSV that include all the books in the NOAB, such as the one I showed in the video. You might call them ecumenical Bibles rather than Catholic Bibles. Catholic Bibles will include 73 books, rather than the 66 books of the Protestant canon. The additional books are listed in kinyou z-nn's comment, and those books appear in the order shown in this video. The ecumenical Bibles I mentioned above typically place the Apocryphal books in a separate section. Older Protestant Bibles such as the Geneva Bible and the KJV originally included all the Deuterocanonical books, plus 1 and 2 Esdras. Since the 1820s, KJVs with the Apocrypha have been harder to find, but Cambridge currently publishes an edition of the Cameo with them all. I believe the Revised English Bible is typically printed with this set of additional books in a separate section -- a larger set than the Catholic Deuterocanonicals, but smaller than the collection of books bound into the ecumenical Bibles. Further complicating matters is the fact that a few multidenominational translations have Catholic editions. In the 1960s the text of the RSV New Testament was modified and, when printed with the RSV Old Testament with the Deuterocanonical books placed in Catholic order, it became the RSV Catholic Edition. More modifications were made in the first decade of this century, I believe, -- especially to the Old Testament -- and the RSV2CE was born. Something similar was done with the NRSV and the ESV, so there are now Catholic editions of each. So the RSVCE, RSV2CE, NRSVCE, and the ESV-CE were all originally translated by committees composed largely of Protestants, but they all include the Deuterocanonical books in Catholic order. The Douay-Rheims, NAB, NABRE, Jerusalem Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, and Revised New Jerusalem Bible all started life as Catholic Bibles. I've typed largely this off the top of my head, making minimal use of reference works, so the above may include errors. But this channel has highly knowledgeable viewers whom I trust will correct my more egregious misrepresentations!

@@RGrantJones very many thanks for your insights. 👍🙂

Fitting the illustrations into a two-column format may have been too challenging for the designers. Thanks for commenting, Joe!

Thanks for commenting, E.S Raj.

I understand that reaction. Thanks for commending, rraddena!

I agree. Gorgeous bible and I love the single column layout and everything else. BUT I dislike the NRSV translation. I, too, would love to see this in the RSV2CE version.