yes I loved how they were almost continously the stronges characters with the biggest moral highrground in all of OC, but because of that it hit that much harder when they had their breakdowns like when kirsten became an alcoholic and sandy became a corrupt business man for a short time.
I think they get a lot of love as being the best tv parents, but everyone focuses on Sandy. This scene shows that it was actually Kirsten that made that final decision. Plus, Dawn specifically says, “…this way he gets a real MOM.” You could tell that statement was a gut punch to Kirsten because she’s never thought about her life that way.
S1 and S2 of 'The O.C.' were close to mankind's greatest gifts in the history of entertainment worldwide. If you look at the first episode up until the last, without starting S3 and S4 afterwards. Make no mistake, S1 and S2 were crafts of perfection.
“This way, he ends up with a real mom.” [me sobbing in the corner] I don’t think they did Ryan and Kirstens relationship justice. Sandy bringing Ryan in was easy for him, but it put Kirsten through a loop.
I think their relationship was solidified at the end of season 2, when they stage the intervention for Kirsten to enter rehab. Even tho Seth at the end is the one who convinces her that she needs to go, you can tell she's affected by Ryan's words to her. She tells him not to say a word because she let him into the house, but Ryan responds: "Yeah, because my own mom couldn't take care of me. She wouldn't get help, even though I asked her too. I don't wanna see that happen again to someone I love." One of the few moments, if not the only moment where Ryan acknowledges how much he loves Kirsten as a mother. And she'd go onto acknowledge her as a son in season 4, when she and Sandy go to Mexico to keep him from killing Volchok.
abandoning ryan really was the best thing his mother ever did for him. too bad his brother was too old to get the same blessing. ryan was on the way to being trey. the cohens saved him right on time.
Seth was really fun in S1 and S2, looked like he didn't really care about anything and just let everything come over him and make fun of it. After S2 they made him go too much nerd-mode which was not the real Seth in my opinion.
@@purpose6113 Disagree wholeheartedly. Should have lasted 6 or 7 seasons if Mischa didn't leave / not done the 5 year jump thing in Season 4 / given the writers a chance to continue their stories after high school or first part of college. This show had more to give, but sadly we will always wonder what could have been.
Best tv drama besides breaking bad. Both i could watch over and over. I actually watched the whole series of the OC twice in 1 month. I could go for another tbh lol
so powerful, that moment where conventional kirsten knows that taking in this boy will be a threat to her image as the perfect waspy rich woman, but her empathy, compassion, and good heart take over and she sacrifices to save a troubled young man who has promise, really amazing scene, women are so great
@@Percy_Fawcett I think she did to an extent, because thats what Cal taught her. She was kind of torn between two worlds of feeling the need to keep up with the wasp-y moms, and seeing Sandy's way of thinking. I think before Ryan, she hadn't really thought about life outside of their community in the way that Sandy had (since he worked in it).
@@Percy_Fawcett I agree with you. Kirsten was different from all the other "Noopsies." She knew she had money and didn't rub it other people's faces. She had a job and worked hard for her money. Julie on the other hand, would've shown Ryan the door as she handed him a bus schedule. After she f*cked him lol
Out of all the characters on the O.C, Ryan has the best character development of anyone in the show. The Cohens clearly changed him for the better and vice versa. The only other person who had a rather extensive and interesting development was Julie Cooper. In my opinion they were the best characters on the show... but my favourite is definitely Sandy.
Yeah Ryan was a great protagonist he is such a likable and compelling character and by far the best main character of the teen dramas like Gilmore Girls-Rory was a spoiled brat and the other characters were really annoying One Tree Hill-Lucas juggled a lot of girls and made bad choices but was still likable
THIS!!! Julie was a really great character. She was a told bitch, but they steadily changed the way she looked at life and family, but without changing her personality. It’s hard to do that.
This show reminds me of a better time in the world and in my life. Remember watching this and thinking that this moment was something that I always wanted for myself because I never had a stable family. I will always love this show
"Why? (Scoffs) This will be the first good thing I ever did for him?" - This line always breaks my heart. Some mothers (and fathers) have no business being parents. No mother has an excuse for abandoning her child but Dawn really felt deep down she had nothing to offer Ryan but pain and suffering.
This episode is one of the bests and the beginning of The O.C one of my favorite shows and favorite scenes so glad all the episodes are on the CW seed now to binge.
one of the best scenes in the oc......dawn basically 'giving' ryan to kirsten, its beautiful but so heartbreaking. sad but has a happy ending because ryan i right where he belongs now. i miss the oc and the great moments like this.
Ryan is extremely smart, good looking, chivalrous, tough, hardworking, considerate and helpful. Dawn was basically giving Kirsten a really expensive gift with a big shiny bow on it. Any family would be LUCKY to adopt someone like Ryan.
I'm a 90s baby so when this first came out I was front and center with my mom watching this every week, I'm literally rewatching the entire thing right now and this scene makes me tear up everytime, shit this entire arc turns me into a teenage girl
made me cry 😥 i m so thankful to God that i have the parents who actually care for me and are willing to do anything..This show is a masterpiece miss it so much
this scene makes me tear up too. re: Ryan's biological mom: sometimes if you really love and care for someone, you'll let them go because you know they'll be better off without you.
Absolutely. I have really great parents as well, but I this is the “TV family” I’d want to be a part of. There are some ways that the Cohens are similar to my parents.
I really feel for kids in these types of situations. No matter how old they get their still the same little kid that just wants to be accepted and loved by their parents. But instead they are constantly let down. And that smile he had u could just tell a hugh wait of his shoulders.
😭 one of the best shows ever imo. Watched it so many times. Just recently finished all series again, might be the last time I can't take the emotional rollercoaster
Yah it’s tough. Some mothers and fathers are just not cut out to be parents. It happens. My mother wasn’t cut out for it and I was raised by my sisters. At least Ryan’s mom could admit it to herself and others. It saved him in the end.
Probably my first and last comment on youtube - just because of the fact that tv-history was made. Still the only thing I think about when I hear the song. Which has been used alot, like alot, the last 10 years or so. Tv-history (togheter with the last episode of The West Wing S02.). It’s pure perfection. Gonna continue pop back once a year just to watch it once again. See you fellow friends.
Ryan’s mother is actually being very responsible by giving him the best opportunity she can think of. She knows she’s can’t take care of Ryan the way he deserves.
Kirsten: he's a troubled and dangerous juvenile delinquent from chino.. sandy: I don't care I want to keep him, he's adorable :3 Sandy wanted to keep him from the beginning... He got away with it :)
I like to think Kirsten and Ryan had an important talk before they entered the kitchen. Maybe she asked him if he's okay, talked about his feelings, what he thinks about staying there with them. Maybe laid down some rules. But then gave him a heartfelt assurance that if this is what he wants, he'll be a true member of this family. That this will be his real home. And that it's a permanent commitment, no going back.
It makes me cry every time because I see if even one person is involved into changing part of a person life that makes all the difference between a good day some day and another unbelievably long bad day so ya I can see a little bit of were Ryan feels so much better at the coans.
This scene!! 💕 The OC’s first seven episodes, such depth, such story. Season 1 was great. And the show lost its way from season 2’s premiere on. Nothing hits like those first 7 episodes. Before the network bullshit, before the writers and actors could feel the weight of the show’s popularity. It lost its way under pressure, and that’s sad. But we’ll always have these 7.
It's so crazy to me that someone could be that irresponsible and lacking self awareness that they would leave their problematic teen son on someone else's plate LOL a stranger at that. this show was so great
Ryan won the lottery,though still a ton of sht happened.Ryans dynamic makes the show.Seths comedy but if it was just a bunch of rich kids in Orange County,it may still be good but it’s his stranger from a different world(Representing most of the fans)that was huge in this.
Dawn wasn't a very good mother, and there she is admitting it. No wonder she kicked ryan out and disappeared when kristen insisted he can't stay in the pool house.
It's horrible that his biological mother isn't even trying to be a better parent and just pushes parental responsibility on other people, that's so selfish and unfair, it isn't a solution. She could have started being good enough for Ryan right then and there if she just bothered to adjust her attitude.
She isn't capable of being good to herself so she sure as hell won't be good enough for Ryan. It would have been selfish for her to hang on to Ryan at this point. She did the right thing.
The whole point of the scene is her telling Kirsten that she knows Ryan deserves more than she can provide [at that time]. On one hand it comes off as selfish, but on the other hand she’s recognizing that she can’t provide the emotional or physical support that the Cohens can. It hits Kirsten hard when Dawn says, “I see the way your husband looks at you, the way your kid looks at you-the way MY kid looks at you.... This way he ends up with a real mom”
@@sl3ptsolong Doing the right thing would be requesting for Kirsten to take over and allowing Kirsten to make her own decision, free from guilt and manipulation. If no one adopts Ryan then the biological mother should sacrifice everything to try raising him, because anything less makes her undeserving of any sort of life. Abandoning a child shouldn't be as easy as just admitting your shortcomings. The commitment has been made and you gotta see it through. What she did right here should become a criminal offense.
@@samflynn97 the mother played her hand honestly and authentically. I think the guilt and manipulation on Kirsten is just an unfortunate by-product. But it was done for the greater good or at least that was the intention. She knows she's drowning and Ryan will be the one trying to save her. But instead of accepting help she'll grab him and pull him under. There's no wisdom in that. If its you drown or we both drown... you drown.
@@sl3ptsolong Do not turn this into an honourable act. Have you ever even been in Ryan's position? Because I have firsthand experienced such abandonment by both parents without another home to fall back on. Now I'm 31yo, lived a lot and still nothing has tasted as bitter, and every day they stay gone feels like a fresh slap in the face. Dawn was lucky that someone took him in, but she didn't even stay long enough to check if they would continue doing so, she didn't even let Kirsten answer. If she was honest with herself then she'd realize that she could've done better if she had tempered her own issues, just for a few years. How hard is it to at least shelter and feed a child without lashing out at them nor making them feel like crap? Anyone could do it. She's just trying to justify a horrible act. Most criminals have sob story excuses, but everyone else knows it's bullshit in the grand scheme of things. Just don't do bad things. There are better ways.
Ryan's mom: I can't do this. You're better at this Kirsten: ...okay, so he's staying Ryan: ... I just got out of bed. What the hell is happening? Sandy: *raises eyebrows* really??? Seth: YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES
Always loved this show from watching it when I was at school. The mum knew if they stayed together Ryan would go to jail. And Kirsten new that it takes a brave mum to do this but knowing she can’t let Ryan go into the system because he would end up in jail and she saw him in there and he protected her. Also knowing it would be great for Seth
