The O'Driscolls - Red Dead Redemption 2 

When they become an enemy in his eyes he'll kill them without hesitation.

I think it was ment to show how much he changed

He did the same in the blackwater heist

@@CrungleFunk RDR3 we will find out the truth , I believe he was a good man until Anabel was killed that's when he lost his mind

@@CrungleFunk nah the RDR3 prequel is going to be the best game of them all it's the start and high point of the gang

And how do you know this every time I’ve ever seen him he goes to sleep on the floor in shady bell. Secondly they tortured him so I’m pretty sure he did sell them out just to get them to stop torturing him And when they got what they wanted they killed him by taking his eyes out and chopping off his head

At said party you can actually hear him shouting in the distance you can find clips on RU-vid of this

@@chrishilton3626 there is literally zero evidence that he sold the van der linde gang out at any point. the lemoyne raiders knew who took over shady belle, so did the pinkertons. kieran rarely left the camp so we can assume he probably got picked up around shady belle so if by some insane set of circumstances the o'driscolls didn't know where the van der linde gang was they definitely knew just by being in the area they took kieran from

@@krokodil7057 that's right everyone knew where they were. But given the extent of torture the O'Driscolls inflicted on Kieran, I always assumed he finally cracked & gave them up. Everyone would under those circumstances

@B G personally I didn't think about it I felt bad about Keiran and wanted to wreck all the O'Driscolls there. But after i always assumed that the Gamg was just loud because after all if the Pinkertons could easily find them then so could the O'Driscolls

Add on it the pure terror the VA was able to display without saying a word you could HEAR the terror in his breathing now that is fucking incredible

@@GrizzTheShaman I wouldn't say Voice Actor, as they also do the motion capture, literally acting and voicing the character

The only thing that made me happy during that chapter.. everything else made me depressed.

@@victorjc5229 We have to give credit to all parties involved for making such an incredible experience.

Me to fam 🔥🔥

Wonder if Arthur’s dialogue is different depending on honor

@@shinyentree225 Im pretty sure it is, But you can look it up to make sure.

@Shiny Entree yes his dialogue and tone is completely different since I played Arthur with high honor based on how he acted in the first mission. I always heard that dialogue with Arthur defending kieran. Which is why the thomas downes mission always felt so out of character to me

@@theoutsiderjess1869 Arthur is an outlaw out to make money for his gang. He doesn't feel right about debt collecting, but at the time he sees it as something for the good of the gang.

Well, if the o’driscolls picked him up after he wandered out into the forest after the party drunk, Then he probably told them.

Woah blew me my mind

What?! Where is that at?

@@LisaAnn777he’s the one the most right under the shed closet to Arthur

@@max_vtvand we blew his

wanted to also add that last guy killed has a "Letter to Tom from Colm" on him that can be looted. Other than that I think all the points were hit pretty well.

literally just had that interaction w javier earlier lol

just got fishing with Javier to, Arthur telling Javier that Colm and Dutch where sort of friends and having a dispute over living ideas of Dutch. After that Dutch leave.

@@jare2067 same

@@Pyx-AJ Do you remember what the letter could have said?

I think she talks about the treatment she received from the O Driscoll gang members. They probably raped her and kept her in the cellar those three days?To me, it would explain the hatred and why she dressed in men's clothing. I think Sadie was never going to be another helpless victim again, and was going to fight like a man to get her revenge on the O Driscolls.

Especially at the mission when she says a particular guy is "hers" to kill off.

Exactly. Somehow alot of people miss that. There is only one reason she would still be alive and held in the cellar after 3 days of that many being there.

Yeah that sounded gruesome, I have no respect for that “R*pe” stuff it’s disgusting ⛔️⛔️⛔️⛔️.

@@John.McMillan Right John & that’s why when I played RDR2 I helped Sadie to the very end ✅.

Nah. Happened well before that when he abandoned the non fighter gang members like Abigail. And attempted to abandon once close/trusted fighters like John & Arthur. Then took in Cleet & Joe Micah's buddies without vetting either of them. Dutch didn't show any mourning over Susan Grimshaw's death later on, despite her once being fiercely loyal to him and his gf before Molly. Dutch didn't say a damned thing about Molly's death either. The male chauvinistic part of his nature wouldn't permit him. His psychopath behavior became second nature by the time he murdered that old woman on Guarma. TBH Dutch's rapid descent transforming into a psychopath really began with Hosea's death. After that, Micah worked on him until he had Dutch convinced at that point their gang had way too many mouths to feed. The rest is history.

@@simsdiver5201 Nah Dutch was always a physcopath tbh

The Natives fought well for my dream.

@@simsdiver5201 Dutch shot an innocent woman on the Blackwater Ferry before the events of RDR2, he was on the crazy train long before Hosea is killed.

@@dutchvanderlinde5004 Yes they did.

I honestly was just about to comment that lol. The way he pulls away from it in disgust/fear and the scared tone in his voice. Also the fact he senses that the same thing may happen to Dutch and he immediately pulls out his revolvers to defend Dutch makes me thing he truly did admire Dutch and care for the gang. Maybe although he isn’t a great person (he is racist and sexist) he may have just been like John in rdr1; forced to betray his gang (although the gang had already betrayed John and the government would kill John and his family if he didn’t co-operate. Micah truly is a fascinating character

@@lowlylad3457 I think they changed direction midway through development. First half of the game Micah was crazy but he didn't seem like a rat/traitor

Yeah it seems like a fault on the developer's part, just to make the player not see all the writing on the wall from the very beginning.

It's possible Micah wasn't a traitor at that point. He could have turned some time around chapter 2 after Strawberry, probably because he was approached by the Pinkertons the same way Arthur was. Micah was one of the few members out there and away from camp at that point, besides Arthur. Early on in chapter 2 he seems a lot more interested in the Blackwater money than anything else, but after Strawberry and returning to the gang and Dutch, he forgets about it entirely and starts cosying up to Dutch more and more and trying to be in Dutch's ear. That would mean the ferry job, which we know was Micah's idea, wasn't a set-up but instead just a poorly planned robbery that went sour, which would be entirely possible since we know it was Micah who planned it and we know he's not great at planning robberies, both from the stage coach robbery Arthur does with him and the failed bank robbery he mentions.

Yeah same with the stagecoach robbery, he actually tells Arthur to take cover and asks if he is ok.

He walked around? Sheesh...

@@AwangKhairunnas yeah I know but in medieval times it wasn't uncommon for people to believe that popes did something strange when they died.

dude!

I thought it was a reference to the mythical headless horseman

@@AwangKhairunnas Yeah, you can live for a short time after a beheading if it’s done right, a French scientist tested this when a man was gonna be beheaded by the guillotine, when he was beheaded the guy made eye contact with the scientist after hearing his name and was responsive for 20 to 30 seconds after death.

I could be misremembering, but I think he says something about being pressed into the gang in the first place.

I was shocked when they killed Sean i knew something was going to happen Arthur kept complaining it didn’t feel right but when they shot sean i was like got damn!!!!! 😮😮😮😮

I always felt awful about how Arthur and the gang treated him, especially after he saved Arthur like cmon he’s a cool guy

@@Jimmothypiddler they didn’t trust him and we have to admit you have to earn it and coming from a gang they want to kill lol you can’t be mad at them🥴 at least they turned around and everyone liked him.. his death to me was weird i was like who the hell is that i kinda forgot about him i had to think about it hard and was like omg 😱

I just got to that part a bit ago, pissede right off when his body rode in

@@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 😂 this game had me all the way fucked up.. they did an amazing job with the story but it will hurt your feelings and piss you off

Definitely

sadly 🥺

Heavily implied but not confirmed

Yeah

In Rdr1 they’d mention that act happening all the time, especially when dealing with bill williamsons gang, and they don’t shy away from the word

Yes😅

He literally flew upwards like a Popeye skit

lore accurate Arthur Morgan:

Dutch’s legs at 1:14:05 is just hilarious

@@thatoneguywiththevoice328 Bruh, Arthur became Popeye right at that moment, and without any spinach

5:35

how do you get it

He was a good kid

@@tz_saints there's a lady in lagras that sells all the special lures

Actually she doesn't sell them until you do the quest at the professional fisherman's house on the shore south of valentine

Me too

Proud dad: Gangster shit, son. Here, have a revolver. Baby immediately accidentally shoots self in head, because, you know, baby. His badass little skullet deflects the round into a wall. Baby: Aaaaawwww, it's only a .38! Dad: When your nuts descend, and you prove to me that you can dig a trench, milk a cow, put in a fence, shovel shit, build a house, rob a train, paint the house, and distill moonshine strong enough to strip the paint off the house, THEN. Then you can have a real man's gun.

@@ChrisMathers3501 💀

my daughter is 6 months old atm. I can see her saying something like that given how often I play rdr2 with her sitting with me 😅😅

@@bekleedee That's funny. When my niece, Hannah, was about that age, her mother was driving around with her in the car seat. Some asshole cut her off in traffic and she yelled "GODDAMMIT!" Little Hannah followed up by yelling "FUCK!"

@@ChrisMathers3501 oh no 😆 it's so funny when kids swear though. My partner was driving the other day and said c#nt(we're Australian) and my 5 year old called his game a c#nt the next day

Honestly i like to think in the end dutch was worse then colm

@@assassingamer5983 yea, while colm is a bad man he at least dosent hide behind some 'cause' to justify his actions while dutch commits atrocities and always makes an excuse for them

@@annetteadcock1848 dutch became worse in the end

@@assassingamer5983 sadly yes

@@assassingamer5983 Dutch became worse but its hard to say if he was ever better, his morals were all bullshit, in the end the only times when he restrained from something evil was because someone close to him called him out on it.

It's not animation it's MO cap. Real acting

Brotha!

Mercs basically. Very interesting

Guns for hire, just like your RDO posse

Yeh but idk if there'd really be much lore on them considering what was said about them in the game, they only recently started getting a serious reputation and then lost a ton of men in one fight

That would be a short vid cuz there isn't a lot of info on them

Micah didn't seem too bad or dickish in the beginning.

It's probably because he knows he needs Arthur's help to get him through the fight alive.

@@justinl4412 lmao

I absolutely love it the most caring voice that we’ve heard Micah talk you OK

Mainly because Micah’s voice makes him always talks like he’s sarcastic 😂

That could be an interesting theory, but I think its just the games annoying law system.

@@arthurwoah like when you knock someone out and stomp them 3 times its ok no one cares. But 4 stomps u will instantly have 20 witnesses for murder

They do. You can witness a valentine deputy picking up or dropping off something to the back room of the doctors office wich is run by the odriscoll gang

I think you have to click the intervene option if not then it seems they do have a grip on the town

They definitely have their hooks in Valentine. The very first time I encountered the O'Driscolls not in a story mission was in Valentine. Two members of their gang were beating and robbing a man in broad daylight. Even with their victim screaming for help no one batted an eye or intervened on his behalf and the streets were crowded. That is until I got involved and once I beat both men down the sheriff came after me...for disturbing the peace.

OnlyPVPCat made a video on it theorizing about why Micah isn't a rat. It's worth watching, I believe him

I genuinely liked Micah at first. If he wasn't the villain, I think he would still work as a character with a "bickering brothers" dynamic with Arthur.

@@DarvinostheGreat he is wrong

If Micah were exactly the same, but being a "good" character instead of the villain, he would be a way better character. At least, I'd like his characterization a lot more.

@@hummuscrow1401 Absolutely agree

you literally can see O'Driscolls watching them before they arrive they knew where Arthur was simply because they scouted ahead Dutch is dumb for not choosing where the meatting should happen

That was my initial thought on it. First thing he does is lead you to Adler ranch being held by O'Driscolls. Then he is imprisoned with an O'Driscoll he then kills I assume to keep him from telling on him. He still refuses to go home and then tries to lead Arthur into another O'Driscoll ambush after before finally returning only to further push dutch into colm further and further I figured he was working with the Pinkerton's to bring them both together and make it easier for the Pinkerton's to pick off or at least help colm weaken dutches gang by getting rid of Arthur so cool could get close enough to Dutch to take him and hand him over to the Pinkertons. I still have a hard time seeing what he gains helping colm but it made enough sense to me

Also I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure when in chapter one up in the snow Micah wears a green scarf and then again in the epilogue he is wearing a green shirt under his coat. Little thing but sticks out to me

When arthur comes to lay down on the perch, some of the birds that were sitting there fly off. I believe that the o'driscolls saw this and put two and two together and figured out that someone must be up there.

Except Micah wasn't the one who set up the meet. Pearson did. Micah didn't even know about it until it was brought up at camp, so this is wrong. Colm also knows all about Arthur and Dutch's gang. Obviously Arthur is going to be covering Dutch at the meet. I mean I could keep going on and on here. Dutch is sloppy af on top of it all, and Colm has the numbers. I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that Dutch and the gang was never out of Colm's sight at any time.

more Sadies

@@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 and that's always a good thing

@@assman3862 more sadies means more dead jakies.

@@assman3862 not when your the Colm O'Driscoll of their story

My dog's name is Sadie.

The better example would be the old hag of Guarma and Hedi McCourt. With the police it's known as a difference of war. You see a soldier not an individual it's a state of psychosis that allows a soldier who has killed to say that he's never murdered. He's at war with The Marshals, The Pinkerton's, The Feds and the Police.

@@notsocrabby9961 yep

Same with Arthur.

@@01l219-m at least the Van Der Linde gang were little bit better than the O’Driscolls with the exception of Micah Of course

@@chrishilton3626 Yeah you are right but Arthur is still a bit of a hypocrite like Dutch.

Colm and Micah, those two deaths made me feel really good, I was thrilled to unload a clip on micah

His wave I feel is a great smack to the face

It changed how i wave. I’m autistic

Like the ac Valhalla Templar tree that would be cool

Yupppp, I really wish they had given it another 2 or 3 years of development before release Finish Guarma and Mexico in game, maybe some other sections of the map, expand the story a bit, add more side antagonists like some O’Driscolls like you say, maybe another cop or two, do more with the native Americans, add another tribe or two and add conflict there maybe Then Remake RDR1 within the engine, some of the extra areas like Mexico are made already so you would have an easier time putting it within the world without extra work on map building (a lot of work would need to be done to change the time periods obv) Then this would also make it easy to either do a DLC or just move faster on RDR3 where you do a more expansive conclusion to Jacks story (I’ve always imagined him as an informant in a LA Noire-type story within the Red Dead universe before or while becoming an author, or is it his son that becomes an author?) where he puts together Dutch, Arthur, and John’s stories more conclusively, we see and maybe play as Dutch as a kid, him meeting Hosea and Colm and Arthur, play as a few other characters including Arthur and John at points we have and haven’t seen previously in the series, including the expanded catalogue of characters like the O’Driscolls you talk about being finally dealt with, but as the story goes on Jack takes a bigger step back to focus on chronicling the story, not being a part of it Really want to see Charles and Sadie again, a few other threads that could be concluded and side characters revisited but without some strong antagonist with long standing ties within the narrative it’ll just feel tacked on, feels like they’ve told most of the stories they want to tell, but if you take all of those separate threads and weave them within a new story it could be cool Maybe we play as a cop and interact with all of these different types of people, Sadie as an outlaw who only really targets the criminal and corrupt, Charles and the Watiti moving back home and having to deal with other tribes coming in to take over territory there and elsewhere, hunting grounds and stuff, more government overreach, I wouldn’t be mad if they go against history and keep a stronger cowboy and native presence in the world even as the timeline goes on, I mean, even into the present day in GTA V the world is full of insane blockbuster criminals lol, the cowboy world is alive and well, the natives… not so much And maybe we can finally see if Uncle cured his lumbago Maybe the protagonist cop/sheriff is also the descendent of the guy from Red Dead Revolver (I don’t think that story is fully canon to RDR1&2, but a version of it is) but maybe he doesn’t know it until after getting through plot of working with Jack who is doing history research and he discovers stuff about the protagonist too

You know it's a video game, right?

@@hippyjoe So, why are you here?

@@hippyjoe no way! I thought it was a netflix documentary.

And the Pinkerton as well. I always thought of micah being a double agent who went rogue. I hope we get to see or if it ever explain in the future game who the hell Micah really is.

@@AwangKhairunnas Black coat like an Odriscoll with red shirt that matches the Pinkerton color scheme. I always thought it the same. 😂

@@AwangKhairunnas makes no sense to think micah is a double agent

@@AwangKhairunnas nope, he’s just psychotic as fuck

@@AwangKhairunnas i remember i saw a video not so long ago explaining that actually from the evidence in the game theres not really a good lead to point to Micah as a traitor and actually (there were multiple other suspicions but) there was a good point against Bill Williamson drawing them on accident or on purpose to them

Dutch: Has anybody seen Arthur? Tilly: He was here a few days ago, he said something about finding five cigarette cards, then he dropped off a half dozen perfect deer pelts, did some chores, spent a good ten minutes petting Cain, played a game of Five Finger Fillet, sang a song at the campfire and then took off again mumbling to himself about finding a set of giant bones or something. Bill: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I heard Arthur saying something about killing a vampire!

@@ieatpeopleand arthur Comes back:I told you it was a setup DUUUTCH

@@TARDISTIMEROTOR Then Bill expresses his disappointment that Arthur didn't fight a Vampire.

hes doing a traditional dance

THEY WAS TALKING

@@marloncarbajal5492 I read this, heard Dutch saying it and Micah shaking his head and felt the frustration of Arthur. Maybe because I just went through this mission again.

Dutch was begging arhtur to get micah becuz tthey was "talking" about hanging him. 2 but when it happens to John he takes his time

(As in fuck Dutch Vanderlinde) (I’m sure you are a cool person (: )

Wait what

Hold up

What’s the next big score

@@Retrogaming2008 a train

Sadie's dialogue in that scene changes depending on Arthur's honor.

@@JFK.Robot.Knight what's the high honor version?

@@kiroxdem5703 If you have high honour, Sadie calls Arthur the best man she’s known besides her husband.

Actually they didn’t change it, they just have alternative certain lines to spice up replay and they change at random

@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK Oh well, guess I’ll need to start my seven millionth playthrough 😂

I also get, "So you call yourself O,'Driscolls? Shit". Or something to that effect.

I think we're all just too good at mowing down O'Driscolls quickly, hardly even a threat to our boah Arthur

sometimes I get him saying "you're a dumb old bunch."😊

No stories for you.

Say your were o'driscrolls were ya?

Maybe he's taking Sean's advice

gollum

Comb O’Driscoll

Lenny O’Summers

@@obamagaming69420found the edgy kid

Nah. The story is over for this gang. Plus if you do the Blackwater's mission or ferry mission. That wouldnt be a smooth transition to RD2. And it's called Red Dead "Redemption". Knowing Dutchs choices and fate. How the hell will he even have a Redemption? He dies a villain.

Yes but maybe more as a spin-off and less as a "Redemption" game. For that, I'd love to see Hosea as main character as he could have a redemption in the end. He even said to Dutch that he want noone more to die and that he wants all of them safe before he passes as he felt that he doesn't have much time left. It would be really interesting to see the formation of the gang from his perspective.

With the caveat of NOT playing as Dutch, yes. Introduce a new character who either bails or dies before the Blackwater job

@@PaulRodriguez9 the next game could be called “Red Dead Rising” and the one after, Jack’s story, could be Red Dead Retribution, and it’s all about Jack trying to sabotage the American government for the way they used his father and then dispensed of him like cattle. Also as I stated, there’s a crap ton left still untold in terms of the gangs creation and everything else I listed, so I’m not sure what you mean by the story is over for this gang. A game about Jack would be a continuation of the story but with Jack, possibly starting his own small gang to fight the government. Sounds like a lot more to tell to me. As well as Dutch’s childhood. And the game would end with the gang bitching the Blackwater Job, fleeing north, and losing the last few people before the second game begins. Smooth enough for me lol.

@@biohazard724 why do you specifically not want to play as Dutch? Just curious. That’s personally who I want to play the most after the last game. I want to experience his mind, his thinking first hand. Plus his childhood and teenage years/young adult years were crazy eventful.

A meaningless sacrifice

Too bad Fishy had high velocity ammo I think. His sacrifice shall be remembered, despite being very meaningless, and maybe on accident too.

@@Fizhy lmfao dude was trying to get out of sight and accidentally ran in between the shooting range. Poor man

Yo that is insane that exact thing happened to me recently I'm on my second playthrough and the same thing just happened for me with the same two guys in the same spot! That's awesome

Unlike Kieran in chapter 2

50% of it is him reciting the dialogue we just watched.

@@frankthefkintank I love Fizhy but yeah. Just a summary. Of stuff we already know. Thought itd be documentary style.

Yh i like this guy but I fast forward a LOT of his videos

You can compliment people without ass kissing

I thought about that too, but at the same time, the O'Driscolls know about the place, so idk if its really safe

Why does everyone think every character needs a game lmfao. His entire life has consisted of ranching, joining the O'driscols, joining Dutch's gang, then being tortured and killed. I love his character too, but goddamn let's think a little bit, does that sound like a fun game?

@@OakNuggins Not saying that every character deserves their own game. I'm talking about before he ended up getting involved in gangs.

Fuckimg Rockstar prevents Kieran ranching stimulator sounds fun to you bro? Like you get your ass beat and whine like a bitch then u join the odriscills get smacked and the game ends. Idk what kinda games you have played bu im ood on ranching as a character that has like three moments before he dies years before his death

Yes, she was a good partner.

There’s no redemption in her story, so you wouldn’t be able to play as her

Personally I think Sadie should have been the prologue character, but that would have caused neckbeard rage

@@TheDownrankTrain I hope you mean because she’s a terribly written character, not because she’s a woman.

​​@@Mac.Aodhagain also, Look at how Sadie was behaving during Chapter 1,2 and a little of 3, that would have been one boring Prolouge. But yea, I also don't really like her, I think she is fine but very boring.

@@Mac.Aodhagain lmao how is she a bad written character, has the same motivation as half the gang members 💀

Good for you my dude, very worth it imo.

micah probably would… he was the one who found the house for dutch, if the o’driscolls weren’t there then he probably would’ve killed the adlers then hide their bodies from the gang

No. The only reason they went there was to ask for help. They weren't there to kill the owners and rob them

It's unlikely. They might have robbed them, but they probably wouldn't have killed them.

They likely wouldn't. At worst they would of held Jake at gunpoint and made him give them supplies, but they wouldn't of killed him.

I disagree with all of you. You forget that Dutch and Hosea kind of had a moral path that they didn’t stray from (Dutch did in the end, so there’s that lmaoo). They would’ve probably just asked for help, tried to con them or something. Idk, don’t know if violence was gonna be the answer

Nah, not at this point.

Fr🤣

"You bastards shot my cousin!!"

@@timmyd151 "Well he started it"

Get's me everytime lol

"you bastards shot my cousin!"

Rip Kieran

Not after TB Arthur Tho

Wasent it predictable though? Like I liked her character and did all the side quests with her that I could but I was disappointed at how just one note cliche “I was weak but anger makes me strong but immediately after I get my revenge I soften up” like I was hoping for more of a range with her character and was really hoping that the “high honor” route would be help in her move on without having to murder everyone involved and the the “low honor” route was the high action shootout or something like that.

​@@cosmonauthal7651Sadie never was weak though, they make the point that her and Jake shared the responsibilities at their ranch, she knew how to shoot and hunt and she knew how to ride a horse. That's pretty much all you need to become an outlaw. That's why the whole cowboy cliche exists because ranchers had the skillset to become a gunslinger. Sadie just never had a reason to turn to that life until her life was ruined by the o'driscolls

Old ass man over here reminiscent about McDonald's? Bruh we are talking about red dead redemption 🤨🤦‍♂️

@@josiahgonzalez942 Haha, I think I was trying to compare shitty Micky D's food to shitty game systems but who knows? I can tell by reading a little of this that I was definitely fucked up as hell when I posted it, though. The shit we say when were high sometimes, man, I just try to make sure I say whatever stupid shit I need to online and nowhere else lol.

​@Josiah Gonzalez you're fun ain'tcha

​@@josiahgonzalez942yo you should let me come to your 16th birthday party it's gonna be so much fun

You certainly have more empathy than I do because that scene filled me with complete satisfaction

I had both.

​@@metal4lifewpis the real human

Or one of Dutch's gang. Mac Callander. The guy that got killed by the pinkerton after the Blackwater incident. The reason why i think why they should go with him because Mac had somewhat of an important conversation with the agent before he got shot. He either knew something was up with the agent and micah or something in general and they gunned him down

Thats.. a very interesting idea, actually.

This should have more likes my brother as a guy who majors in social work and might minor in psychology. I can tell you that you don't need to be a genius to see this. Charismatic people always draw jealously Dutch could have been uglier dressed shittier or had a micropenis (lmao) the point I'm making is any shortcomings he had his persona and charm made up for it.

Dude he killed his brother there's nothing petty about it

​@@RU-vidChannel-ol7zxthere can be several aspects to a feud.

Or did I Roadhouse

@@GRH_Roadhouse wait you know him?

I just wanna talk to him.