The OB-6 sound on a budget? 

​@ghost mallVideo is literally about doing a specific effect on a budget. Then you pop in and ask the only question that goes against the entire spirit of the video.

Same here. I've always been modular-curious, but that looked really simple!

Mark Pigott I need to do that once I’ve fixed mine. I love the Blofeld but mine is plagued with hardware issues. Changed the opto coupler and now (I think) the final stage opamp.

I was just thinking the same...”hey, my Blofeld has a notch filter and a mod matrix...”

@@markbennett2856 I'd love to hear how close it can replicate the SEM

Hmm, then it's probably doable on a hydra too...

the struggle is real!

Could you do a video about running Rev2 into OB6? I love your channel btw (those long videos about Rev2). If I can get into OB6 pad territory with Doepfer SEMish filter...that's it...REV2 wins for me on its cheaper price and flexibility.

@@piotr803 yeah I could do that for sure. Thank you for the kind words as well!!

@@sauce_aux I've been getting great results with running Arturia Prophet 5 through a Dave Smith Character module (based on P12). Makes much easier to mix in vsts with modular. But nothing beats a D/VCOs ...especially running through that awesome creamy SEM filter it seems :-)

Would you mind explaining how you’ve set this up? I got my eye on the sem filter for the purpose of this, but i’m not yet experienced enough to figure it out by myself. Your help will be greatly appreciated!

@@producedbymirakle the arturia filters run as an insert on your track so whatever sounds/synth on the track will pass through the filter. The SEM filter imparts a great deal of character so just having it on there will change the sound even when the filter is open (in analog/analog modeled filters opening a filter never completely bypasses it’s effect). Regarding the lfo and sequencer you can set their destination to settings on the filter so it will change those parameters over time depending on how you have it programmed-so you can program things like the notch filter to move. And finally since it’s in your DAW you can assign a midi controller and map the filter cutoff to do your classic filter sweeps.

John Wright overdubbing

Thomas Røntved Thank you very much, it’s really great to know people enjoy the channel :)

@@TimShoebridge Super Amazing, Very Informative, High Quality content. Never stop! :)

I agree. I'm sure there would be a slight improvement in the sound. The 4ms Listen IO module would work well here, then he could go back out at line level if desired.

Yeah bring those levels up to euro so you can give the filters something to actually chew on

@@stateazure Thank you, I've learned something useful there, appreciated :)

indeed, i felt all of it was somewhat weaker sounding than expected, until i realized its not euro levels feeding the doepfers..

Modular will give you more flexibility than pedals, more modulation capability, more extendability. But for stereo you'll end up with two of everything. Not sure about cost, there are some pretty expensive pedals out there. For simplicity and for a choice of reverbs I still use pedals, but for more complex modulation, granular effects and filtering etc I prefer the modular route....

You could also use a device like Make Noise Lapsus Os and control both filters with a single slider.

Here's a great example of what your talking about: www.synth-project.de/diva.html

try using it on stage until the cpu crashes ....for syudio work its close. i use it at home. but will probably buy the behringer ubxa when it comes out.

u mean like a modwave?

James High Ha! Yes I am waiting patiently for one.... at the right price :)

Major OSC, you are so right. OB 6 is my favorite new analog synth and no software could match it with my eyes closed esp when playing solo.

Ha! I'll ask her for permission! ;) Sorry, just can't come to terms with the name! But yes definitely I have been planning a video on the GM for some time now...

Haha the name throws you off. We'll all be grandmothers some day. Nice videos!

Sorry for the late reply. I have had no problems with noise levels on this filter, I actually have three of them in total. One thing I did notice though is that modulating with a square wave can cause some distinct clicks unless you are subtle in the settings you use. Check out the video at around 22:00 to hear what I mean. Yes the two separate outputs you see on the module are available at the same time.

Hi Chris, No special cables needed, we're just dealing with audio here, just need to be mindful of levels but otherwise this approach will work with any sound source.

The regular audio output jacks on any synth - whether it's a digital or analogue synth - are analogue outputs. Is your question, will it sound analogue? Think of those eurorack filter modules as being like an external effects pedal, you either like the effect you hear or you don't, it's all about what sounds good to you.

Thank you!! Well it's not a replacement for the full polyphonic OB6 implementation as others point out but I'm very happy with the results. I've since added a MIDI to CV module, an envelope generator and another LFO, so now I have a paraphonic solution, I'll hopefully get a follow up video put together at some point soon.

@@TimShoebridge Great Tim, i really appreciate youre video´s. for the thorough explorations, of the instruments, and , for fine tunes, you play aswell-

Thanks very much! Well, if you want to replace the existing filters then there is a slight issue because what is hidden from you (but which would be under your control in a fully modular system) is the fact that the Matriarch is internally gating the output from the oscillators. If you take the wave outs from the oscillators you'll hear that they are always on, whereas the Matriarch's behaviour without any patching is to send audio from each oscillator to the filters selectively depending on the mode you are playing in (ie. monophonic vs paraphonic). In paraphonic mode for example you hold down one key and only one oscillator is heard, the others remain silent. It's not possible to replicate this paraphonic behaviour of the Matriarch without taking over full control and basically utilising an external MIDI to CV converter module and an awful lot of patching. I had a go at this kind of thing myself and it got to the point where there was very little of the Matriarch that I was actually using in the end. This is an issue with semi-modular synths, they are extendable but they come with limitations. So how successful you will be depends on the mode in which you are wanting to play, so perhaps the easier option would be to leave the signal flow of the Matriarch intact but leave the internal filters wide open and use the SEM filters like an external effect at the end of the synth's signal path.......

@@TimShoebridge That makes a ton of sense actually. Thank you!

@@TimShoebridge One more question Tim! In theory if i wanted the envelopes of the Matriarch to effect the DOEPFER SEM's I would take the Envelope out from the Matriarch and put them into the CV in next to the freqeuny knob on the DOEPFER right?

@@superlean5991 Yes the CV-in on the SEM module is where to apply the envelope CV from the Matriarch

Hi, The P12 doesn't have the usual effects that you would expect on a synth. It has a very configurable delay but other than that it has "character" effects which are basically different ways to drive and dirty up the sound

I looked at that, but it doesn't seem to have a sine LFO option. Looks like a useful tool though, thanks for the pointer :)

Doesn’t the OB6 just have one filter that all 6 voices pass through?

@@robscasey No, the control makes it look like 1 filter, 1 amp envelope and 1 filter envelope but actually there is one per voice. So the ob6 actually has got 12vcos, 6vcfs and 12envelopes

@@robscasey that's the reason analogue polys are so expensive by the way

@@ionianechoes I see, I own both the ob6 and p6 and have never heard that before. Do you have something I can read about the design in that regards? I can’t see anything online

@@robscasey BOTH? I hate you...haha I won't ever afford one of them...sad face. I mean that's just how analogue polyphony work... it's actually a complete synth voice per voice. They have got one complete voice pcb per voice, you can see in the picture for example. www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/5yg6zg/a_look_inside_the_ob6_and_prophet6_modules/

Yes exactly. The idea is to take any synth sound and filter it with the A-106's

@@TimShoebridge thanx for the quick response! Great experiment & demo - very helpful! But what would be the perfect modular substitute for the P12 in this context? I am curious what would be the building blocks to complete a modular OB-6

my thoughts exactly :D

Hi, Yes, but there's no reason not to split the mono signal into two filters for stereo effect if you wanted to.