The Old World: Are the Legacy Factions Any Good? 

Except the Skaven special rule part! Got that wrong. It's there and I just missed it. But no longer needed for infantry 😁

Had a break over Christmas but keen to really get into Old World content in 2024

Thank you!! I couldn't find it. Well played GW!

3D PRINTSSS BABY

You never did baby! GW showed you the contempt they hold you in, and that's if you ever felt the need to support them

That's exactly why WFB was killed - people didn't use GW models. So - keep printing models and buy 3rd party minis - and you'll NEVER get Dark Elves back as fully supported faction.

wait, arent all the DE models still available from AoS?

@@kempo79 imagine thinking I need GW to support my faction 🤣🤣🤣 I was writing better rules than GW when I was 8

Ooft that hurts 😔 On the upside... free rules!?

Wow, you got hit harder than me. I got 4 and all are legacy armies.

There are a bunch of rumours for AoS chaos stunties. Which would give them models for two systems. Watch this space!

Editing a 'How to choose a faction' video right now!

It's in the main rulebook: 24" S3 AP0 Armour Bane (1) Multiple Shots (2) - you get -1 to Hit if using multishots to shoot more than a single projectile just like in 8th Ed. Repeater Handbows are 12" S3 AP0 (no ArmBane) but with Quick Shot (same as "Quick to Fire" from 8th). Brace of RepHB's are MS(4) ofc...

Agree, sums it up. Little help from GW though it's nice to have a fig leaf...

Thanks... I think?

I think we're going to get a great community going!!

Heading to Jolt on Thursday night for some games! 😁

Going to a big official tournament for a GW system sounds like a nightmare 😅

@@blackbriargaming5483 It's a different hobby entirely. At the local level, the asshat player is going to quickly find out that the local club has all refused to play him, and quickly comes to realize that gaming is as much about friendship as it is about gameplay. Good manners (and good hygiene) will be as important as winning, because you want to continue to game with these people in the future. At official tournaments, players will attempt to abuse rules in order to find advantages. Consider the young man who thought he could get an advantage by deploying his entire army in reserves, only to get schooled by the opponent who deployed along every table edge, preventing him from entering the game. These same mindsets tried to do such things as using 10" tall bases during the initial AoS release in order to prevent you from being able to engage them through the model-to-model contact rule (AoS started base-agnostic because most armies were coming into play on square bases.) When you deal with that player mindset, the TOs try to create the most balanced gameplay possible. Back in the day: Movement trays? Hell no! They prevented base-to-base contact, or provided a size advantage, blahblahblah. Now all the WAAC players are demanding players enter the game with movement trays to prevent 20-25mm size advantage, even though Fighting Ranks largely eliminates most concerns here. About the only thing I can see as a problem are whether or not frontages can move through terrain or not, or if you have enough range to flank the smaller unit that is in contact from the long side, but I think overall the impact of 20 vs 25 is going to be meaningless. There will be a lot of requirements regarding using proper models, no 3d printing, offical GW bases, etc., all things you won't see at the local level. Consider it like blood doping in sports. In official events you are going to be tested to be sure you don't bring unfair advantage to the game, but nobody gives a damned when you're racing the neighbor kids to the end of the street. They are literally two different events, even though the activity, running, is the same.

i with they could take the cold one chariate tougher still quick and some nice damage on the charge especely if you add a assalmeant spell

The 90s are back and they're glorious!!

Sure will!! Not playing though. Just cruising for those spicy deals.

@@blackbriargaming5483 fair fair, Might catch ya there then!

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@@blackbriargaming5483 I'll be stuck behind a trader stall, but will do!

@@medburyminiatures9607 which one? I'll come say hi!

Hit me up on Insta or FB 😊 There is an email but it rarely gets checked.

But if you PM me I can send you my personal email address that actually gets read 😅

Fear? They've specifically stated that's the case. But also. Never say never. They'll need somewhere to go once the core factions are fleshed out. If the game is popular enough.

I believe it's a place holder for them to move onto if the game proves itself to be successful over the long term. And they are even with every other race that still are waiting for a journal. Play your dudes even if they are on the waiting list is how I feel haha.

They will get zero support. It's on the pdf.

Ok, no i see bell gat it in your vid too.

It was my mistake. Not there's 😅 It's a GW miracle! Warband covers the infantry.

It does indeed look like they took a hit. But the game has been balanced across the board. We'll need some decent game evidence to see where they end up I think 🤔

personally I don't mind bretts having the best of the best cavalry, grail knights are supernaturally empowered in their own right, and blood knights are still darn strong relative to the lower damage output across the board compared to 8th. also worth calling out that blood knights can get full plate, though they pay through the nose for it. still that fluff entry implying they're on par with or above grail knights when they just aren't does feel weird. I'm not to upset with vamp heroes though. the casting trade offs matter and make for distinctly different builds. obviously i'd like to see more powers, even a bloodlines again, but that's where homebrew rules supplements will have to fill the gap.

Lol @ nerfed. It's a totally different game and Blood Knights look just fine as heavy cavalry in context.

It’s worth noting that even though they nerfed BK damage (damage is lower in general across a lot of armies) they did buff their toughness with full plate armor, regeneration, and being less susceptible to crumbling. I do agree that the vampire powers are a huge downgrade. There isn’t enough and there’s pretty weak variety in what little there is. Plus they gave the BK champ a 25 point allowance which I think only gives them the option to buy terror so why bother? Just say he can buy terror.

The big hit is the loss of any ability for Undead to march, even while within your general's aura. The days of Vampire blenders are well and truly over, unless perhaps you take a ghoul king, though a regular Vampire has a decent shot at being a duelist thanks to the Sword of Kings. Still, they are totally outclassed by Bretonnian, Elf, or even Dwarf Lords. That feels wrong, in an army that has traditionally relied on the Lord to carry the somewhat weaker units. This isn't even mentioning how the break changes have quite negatively affected undead, simply because everyone else has got better.

Good to know! Never played with or against them. Just heard things...

Yep! Seen since. An adjustment that's very welcome 😊

Yeah no special characters outside of arcane journals by the look of it

Lizzards now got the worst leadership... coöd blood is only for fear panic and terror... no breaks... and not for the stupidity of cold ones

What country are you in??

@@blackbriargaming5483 Czech rep, central europe. UK is close, but still...the nearest store GW store is in Poland. But we have very good 2 local stores in the capital, Prague.

@@FlourEater fabulous!

Ooooh good pick up! I'm honestly OK with it. That nerf was well needed 😅

There's an easy answer. I'll do a video on it i think.

Yeah I think I noted as such. Except for Chaos Dwarfs. They seem goooood.

Maybe they'd not canonically built em yet?

canon and lore are post-hoc rationalisations for shitty business decisions. @@Canuovea

@@kdhlkjhdlk That generally sums up Games Workshop pretty well, doesn't it?

There's two decent reasons. They're not worried about people "buying more", their production can't keep up with demand as it is. I'm pretty confident it comes down to existing/conflicting model lines within AoS and limited production/publishing capacity. They're releasing a whole new game system. Trying to do 15 or so factions all at once (with accompanying model releases) would simply be impossible for their current capacity.