I've bought and rebuilt multiple salvaged bikes. If you're even slightly mechanically inclined it can be a great deal. The paperwork can be a bit of a hassle but if you're saving 40-60%, it's worth your time.
The company that built that motorcycle provided the tools necessary to allow rape, torture and murder in the 40's. America funded these bastards to build vehicles after the war and allowed the them to flood North American Markets to break existing manufacturers. Where people expected fair pay for fair work. Our own political representitives have not just allowed this to happen, but encouraged it. We pay the wages of the people that continuously stab us in the back. Gods truth. Go buy that copy cat piece of crap and ride it to hell.
@@oldguy7144 you keep blaming those alive for the sins of their grandfathers and being a prick. You sir I will see in hell. You are no god fearing man you are a *#$Kstick. At least i admit where ill be. we can talk when i get there to see you.
Thanks for the warning, I won’t buy the bike. I do think it would be hilarious if twenty years from now it’s still sitting in his garage because we all listened and none of us bought the bike!
I bought a 14 Honda cb1100 with rebuilt title for $2500 with 2400 miles on it. Advantage is that you don’t have to worry about it and just enjoy it. I ride for little then my right hand started getting numb after 30 minutes I’m not sure if it’s my age or what but I sold it for $4k.
I’ve been lucky to have owned a lot of different bikes and sell them for a profit making their ownership essentially free for me. I’d love to buy a 17 CB1100 that bike is definitely on my dream list with a plan to keep. Right now I have a 09 Yamaha Tmax that I’m really loving riding and commuting on. I may even keep this one longer then one season
I rebuild bikes in TN to supplement my income. it is a kinda lenthy process but if the bike is done by someone who knows what they are doing then you should defiantly buy a rebuilt title bike. I have many happy customers. I primarily do Harleys
This is very true. What sets me apart is I am licensed and certified, as well as registered with the state. The industry(dealerships) unfortunately has made people think that rebuilt always means ''bad''.
You MUST know your state laws.Once understood,it's just a process.Also helps to know what to look for on a wrecked bike.I've purchased bikes that have been keyed and insurance companies deemed the damage to be 80% of the bike value,so they issue a salvage rebuildable title. Insurance companies will disclose the reason for total loss.
A couple things of note. If a bike does get a salvage title and it was stolen the VIN number was in a database indicating that the bike was stolen. In the event you get pulled over it’s very possible that the VIN was not removed from the database. At minimum the bike will get impounded and you’ll have to fight it out with the courts. At the worst, you’ll be arrested too. It’s up to you to make sure you know where the bike was stolen from and that it’s a clear VIN. Usually you can take the VIN to a police station and they can check it for you against a national database. Do this before buying the bike, even if you are buying from a dealer. Also, make sure your insurance will cover a salvage title vehicle. You’ll almost never get comprehensive coverage on the bike. Also, it’s nearly impossible to get a loan for salvage title vehicle. Think about it. A salvaged Ultra Classic CVO Harley Davidson would still book out at 18 to 20k. Better have cash for it.
Different states different requirements for salvage titles. Here in NC in my city it takes 25% of the vehicles value (even says on the titles) to salvage a vehicle. Vstars are not valued at much so 25% isnt much at all. Add up labor paint and a gas tank boom 25%.... I buy and sell and part out salvage vehicles from the auctions for a living. I currently ride a salvage title zx14 theft bike that was laid down. I myself don't mind buying salvage title anything if I can see the damage. I don't like buy "other sellers salvage rebuilds" because they throw some plastics or bumpers on the thing and hide the underlying damage. Also Getting a salavage title vehicle on the road is simple here. If I buy a salvage title wrecked car (still wrecked) from any other state out of NC, I can bring the title to the DMV and get an automatic tag as long as I have insurance because they grant you a 1 year inspection being its from out of state. so just because its hard there doesn't mean it is here. so that bike could have been wrecked and rebuilt here and ended up there because we have no big rules about putting them back on the road. I love buying good stuff for 1/4 the price but thats just me!
I got a V Star 1300 tourer about 2 years ago, and I love the thing. That's going to make somebody a really good bike. By the way, my V-Star makes bike number 38 for me personally. Not counting dirt bikes. Anyway I'm not sure I would rate it as a beginner bike, more of an intermediate. It's very user-friendly and easy to ride but even with the low center of gravity it is kind of heavy. And that could catch a new rider out pretty quickly. I would at least recommend New Riders invest in a set of highway bars for those low speed learning drops. Lol
Can't speak for PA but I've bought over 30 salvage title bikes. I used to be an insurance adjuster and we were basically instructed to just total bikes as it was a much better deal for the company. Of all the bikes I adjusted only a handful ever went in for repair. In SC and NC salvage or rebuilt titles are treated like normal titles with nothing special to do and no inspection required. I'll gladly save 25-50% of the going price for a salvage title. Only one of the ones I've bought ended up being not easily fixable and so it was parted out. Still got my money back. And I've never had a problem getting full coverage insurance on the salvage title bikes I own, 3 currently.
The VStar 1300 is an awesome bike, I put 33,000 trouble free miles on my '07, which I just traded this year towards my dream bike, an Indian Springfield. The VStar 1300 is a very underrated bike.
I agree these bikes are underrated. I have a ‘07 I’ve put 63,000 miles on and never had a single issue. Just change the oil and tires. Even has the original battery still.
@@lp6wo , What a coinkidink, my 07 Vstar 1300 also had it's original battery when I traded it in this year. Not only that, But I never once put it on a tender during the winter time, treat the gas and put it away after the first snowfall, (usually in November and only if they put salt down) and every April it would start right up after half a crank. 13 years on the same battery, unbelievable. Great bike, hopefully its new owner will get as much joy out of it that I did.
I bought a 98 XL1200C in Fawn Grove, Pa. it had an R title because it lunched the motor. The guy I got it from never touched after getting it from an auction. The cases were fine and I rebuilt it. Virginia issues me a clean title because the bike was worth more here and saw no reason to issue a salvage or rebuilt title since there was no frame damage.
most states to total a vehicle is around 70-75% damages compared to value. in Nebraska if you fix it the title goes from salvage to "prior salvage" if someone spent 10 minutes with a key vs your paint that would total most bikes
My bike 02 VTX1800C. Totalled for a drop. Minimal damage was done.... There's pics. Rebuilt title which is street legal hear. Down side yep it's rebuilt. Upside? Brand new Honda crate motor 2000 miles ago. New custom paint. PC3/Hypercharger Cobra exhaust, new shocks etc. You get the idea. I looked at quite a few "green title" bikes, some with less miles. In the end all the info I got from the dealership including the Carfax or whatever the pics etc. It was by far the best deal. I'd buy it again.
My salvage bike = laid over a new CBR600RR after a couple months back in 2010. 1 livable fairing crack, but the scratched/ gouge in the frame was the reason for the total. Nothing bent though. $800 to buy it back from the insurance company after they paid it off , a new clip-on and throttle tube/cable - been riding it since.
I've put clear title wreaked bikes back together. Good bikes, put together right, rode them, then sold them. Did not do it to make money, but I did make money. Did it because I could buy the damaged bike so cheap and I've been working on bikes since I was 11 years old. I enjoyed working on them.
You can usually go back to the original salvage company and find the exact reason the bike was salvaged. Always check the frame especially the welds. If there is paint popped of the welds you can be sure there was structural damage aka bent frame. That doesn't mean it's up repairable. People are shocked that some bikes are salvaged that do not appear to have significant damage. Bike parts can run up price wise quickly not including the labor to repair. Also check with you insurance company to be sure they cover salvage titled bikes, not all insurance companies will insure them. Also the coverage will be significantly less should you have a accidently. Retail wise they bring about 50% of normal retail as a guideline. Sometimes a little more or less depending on the market and availability . I have owned quite a few and as long as you check them out well you should have no uncommon issues and you save a few bucks to boot !
Wow, I was going to buy that bike, but I'm glad you steared me in the right direction . Wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft. pole now. Thanks for the advice Sean.
Probably wouldn't get this bike but if you're a new rider looking for your first bike. I would definitely give a salvage a chance. Ride it for a few minutes. Check that all the gears work. It doesn't act funny as you pick up speed. The engine is smooth. Etc. You're probably going to drop it anyways. Trade it back and forth between friends to get used to riding before buying a good bike. Get some good use out of it. Just make sure it gets checked out by a mechanic or a friend who knows what they're doing
Just a story to share...I.bought an 03 Harley Road King. I have performed all of servicing. It is now 18 years old with 79,000 miles clocked. Here is what has been done to this bike: oil and filter changes @ 3000 mile intervals, 3 batteries, 4 sets of rear brake pads, 3 sets of front brake pads, 6 rear tires, 3 front tires, 2 windshields, one headlight, and nothing else. Still has original irridum sparkplugs. Timing chains and tensioners were checked @50,000 miles and showed only slight wear. I use 20/50 Kawasaki lawnmower oil, 140 wt gear oil in trans, and Lucas primary oil ( also changed every 3000 miles ). This bike has never failed me. I intend to ride it for the rest of my life. Everyone tells me that they have never heard of a story like mine. Has anybody out there had as good luck as I've had with my bike? To me, this has been the best money that I have ever spent. Not even one bolt has came loose....
I paid $3500 for my '07 V-Star 1300 3 years ago. But it had 70,000 miles on it. I've put another 4800 on it and it's still running better than the day it came off the assembly line. Mainly because of the hyper charger and power commander I installed on it.
Long ago, I bought a rebuilt truck hit in the side and insurance totaled it. FOUR wheels...ok, but no way EVER would I ride a TWO wheel wrecked motorcycle, lol!
My salvage title bike was a disaster, I feel like all this headaches took 6 months out of my life it could have been enjoying riding.. I bought a salvage title truck in 2020 got inspected it's been great and I got it for a third of what truck sell now with covid prices.
I bought an R title bike from Utah, the bike had been stolen and rebuilt by a friend. Registering and insuring it in Alaska was not a problem, and selling it later in Texas was easy too. Sounds like a Pennsylvania problem.
Actually buy a salvage title if you have the skills to rebuild. A guy bought my 08 Road Glide with 15k mikes only to tear out the engine and replace it with a hot engine he built. Not for me though.
If that's a Tour model, couldn't it have stock hard/soft bags? That and the dents on the tank could easily put that thing near resale value of they got damaged during a theft, insurance wise.
@@martincvitkovich724 Looks better than most Harleys. Doesn't matter if it's a "squashed Bug out of a Godzilla movie" or just a good ole incredibly reliable Yamaha cruiser platform.
Why do you say that the 1300 and 950 are a huge step up from 1100? The 1300 has like 8 more horsepower and under 20 ft lbs more torque, and the 950 only has 50 horse and tops out at 90 mph
Agreed...bit of an over exaggeration, and I also remember a video of him on an 1100 saying "not that much of a difference between 1300 and 1100" Common problem with salesman is forgetting what they said in the past.
I buy all my bikes from salvage auctions. The insurance company will salvage a bike for tipping over or light scratches. When I’m ready to upgrade there’s always somebody with a clear title wanting to trade for my newer lower mile bike. Then I just sell the clear title bike and repeat.
I buy crashed, salvage and insurance bikes and they normally can be fixed like new for under $300. Junk title can be a trick but it can be done. The best value is a salvage bike 50% is about right so always buy these bikes. Worst possible advice is to NOT buy this bike.
I'm thinking the other way around lol. It's already been approved in PA, but if you live outside of PA you may have to go through the process again to satisfy your state??? I don't know. Sounds right.
I could see possibly buying an R-title if it was a historically significant bike like an old Indian or something, other than that there are thousands of bikes for sale with few(er) issues
My dad's 2004 1100 Vstar got t-boned at a stoplight and it broke a 2-inch piece off the rear fender and it got totaled. I wanted to buy it back at the auction but needed a dealer license or whatever. They gave him $4,000 for the bike and he paid $2900 at least.
Your dad should've been able to buy it back from the insurance company before it went to auction. Most of the time you have to ask your adjuster. The insurance most likely will receive a wholesale/auction value for the motorcycle. If you ask/agree to buy it back they sell it to you for that amount.
Totally had to get an R title from Maryland and I live in PA. What a pain in the ass. You can’t even get the title transferred until it passes the enhanced inspection. I got it done with my F4i and it was all good and done and now the fork seals are leaking, so I bought a Harley from my local dealer and all is well lol.
I’m UK so things are different maybe. I crashed my bike and was very seriously injured. I wasn’t fit enough to sort the bike out and it was just easier for me to have the bike as a right off. There was possibly not much damage. I just couldn’t physically or mentally sort it out. So maybe this bike has the same story?
Not a US citizen, so all this title stuff you've got going on there is really strange to me. But if the bike was properly rebuilt or repaired, got inspected and was declared road worthy again, why don't they just drop the whole R-title malarky and issue a new, clean title? We have a sort of similar thing here, if a vehicle has a WOK-status, you can only get that sorted by taking it to a specialised inspection, where the vehicle is checked to see if it still meets it's homologation criteria and therefore can be re-registered under it's certificate of conformity. Or it can have to have an individual inspection done, which when passed yields a new certificate of conformity. Either way, as soon as either inspection is passed, the WOK-status is removed from the title and the title is essentially clean again.
If I were to buy a salvage title, I would have to go thru crap to get it licensed....... If a dealer buys a salvage title, they just fill in the form saying it is good to go and the state accepts it Clearly only dealers are honest, I certainly would put a piece of crap on the road and ride my grandchildren(not born yet but you get the idea) on it hoping for the best While a dealer would never allow a piece of crap on the road and my grandchildren are his utmost concern So the state has clearly thought this thru and based their decision on mone.....I mean safety I liked the 950 better than 1300
I mean the only reason you shouldnt buy a rebuilt is if you are in the business this guy is in of flipping without wrenching, because they dont hold their value.....However if your gonna buy a used bike and keep it for a long time its actually better than buying just a used bike with a clean title due to the bike being completely torn down rebuilt to factory standards and being inspected. You dont have to do the process he is talking about, the guy who is flipping the bike does all that shit with the DMV in their respective state so they can get the R-title.....
People who buy motorcycles are usually rebellious folk. So telling them not to buy the bike makes them want to buy the bike... Makes me want to buy the bike...
Lol... Florida man... Local sheriffs look at the bike to determine if the bike is safe... and verify the vin... then provide their signature. It's that easy
Southern Pennsylvania has some great roads with scenery to ride, my wife and I have rode around the Gettysburg area a number of times and haven't found too many roads that are not nice to travel.
R u entitled with a R- title? Great ,honest video ! In certain state's once r- title clock ticking at 9 year date period bike can't be sold for streets ,parts or salvage only! Beware do the math-homework.
So if someone in Ohio bought this bike would they get from you guys a bill of Sale that we could use to prove to Ohio BMV ownership and use that Bill of Sale during the inspection of the motorcycle? Or would Ohio want to see something fixed?
My car has a rebuilt title. What was the cause? A deer ran into the door and quarter panel. Fixed the door and quarter. Just cosmetic damage, no physical damage. Took it to the Louisiana State police office had them look at it got the paperwork. Went to the DMV. Paid them im good.
Buy the bike if you own a vstar..your going to need the engine when yours breaks...they are junk after some riding..everyone I know of has broke in m some strange way.
Too much money in my opinion. Look around on FB Market Place...you can get one for not much more that's not an "R" title....just my opinion...I wouldn't pay that much for that bike with a salvage title. Here in Ohio theres a dealership that sells nothing but salvage title bikes. Check out there prices, it's called Racers Edge..
I was on CycleTrader and the bike was listed on Racers Edge with you guessed it, salvage title, no wonder the price was lower than most. Took a look at their listings and most are titled as such. But there was no mention of that on CycleTrader 🤔
I have bought at least 10 salvage bikes from Racers Edge (mostly Harley’s). I fix them like new and ride them until I want to do another project. I’ve sold most on Craig’s List at a discounted price or traded back to Racers Edge. They are good people! The bikes I by from them have a Ohio Salvage title. One I do the repairs here in Pittsburgh, I take the bike to a local enhanced inspection shop. They do all the paperwork and take the required pictures for the state and send it in. About three weeks later, I get my rebuild title. Enhanced inspection is about $280.00. Never a problem with getting insurance.
I’d run it through DMV just to see or have someone run the vin through a PD. I know a few ppl in NJ. I’d buy it and find out how to flip it for my use. I’m looking for a 1300 or above.
I just heard that hell has just frozen over, and an honest sales man on RU-vid telling me to not buy something.....I got to go out and buy a Lotto ticket.
Rebuilt bikes/ cars are 100% ready to be plated and titled. Lets also be clear that you CAN NOT plate a SALVAGE title bike at all. You need to stop using SALVAGE and REBUILT as interchangeable title types because they are not. Salvage title are the ones that take work getting them to rebuilt but its not a big deal. You just have to show a parts list. And to boot in my state there is no inspection to get the bike road legal other than to check the VIN to make sure nothing is stolen. Also you are WRONG on what totals a bike. It has nothing to do with using OEM only parts and its not over 100% of the of the market value of the bike. A bike (or car) gets a salvage/rebuilt title when the cost of the repair (with new, used or re manufactured parts) exceeds 70% of the market value of the bike. And all of that has a BIG variance of what will and wont be totaled. The mood of the insurance company adjuster, the owner when it was wrecked, the current cost of fixes (labor cost, paint cost, parts cost). Been in the business doing this for 25 years and my dad has been doing it for 40+ years. Also values of rebuilt titles are generally 2/3 of clean title comparable machines.
Yeah, back when i was looking for a bike last time i came across a dealer bout 2 hours west of SRK. Every bike they had was R title... and most any of them you could tell it was. Most didnt have a smooth surface on any metal part, tank, fenders, accents... so i just stopped looking there. Any bike there could easily just be an auction bike at Copart(where wrecks go to be sold after insurance writes them off). but as i am like 2 years late on this video... and i already have a 950 tourer that is likely worth more then this.. dont worry i wont buy this bike :p
