Great and helpful tips thanks, Just question, what is the real differance to weight to peg or sit on back of seat , , Both should be transfer to weight to rear tire, Technically any differance?
There is a deference in your ability to move on the machine. With your feet on the pegs and body and butt off the seat you can then move your hips back and forth with much more efficiency. Check this video out, specifically 5:20 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9We23F-KyGk.html
@@rejzo-production Your center of mass might be lower if you sit versus standing, but the ability to *quickly* move your center of mass left, right, forwards and back is probably more important so you can balance your bike in changing situations. Not to mention sometimes you need to de-weight your bike or compress your front/rear suspension for some techniques, all of which require standing as the first step.
simple physiology of human body .... there are no proprioceptors * your body balance sensors * between your legs when sitting. it's in ankles; knees and internal ear.... ;) so closed loop of balance info can come to ankle on footpeg, then knee, them internal ear then brain and all loop back to load back peg and adjust body. try it just sitting just on bicycle seat or on a super narrrow seat at home, legs out of ground
I wouldn’t have thought it was even possible to ride through a rock pile like that and yet you went through it so smoothly. I subscribed to also learn this magic. Well done.
EXCELLENT info. I watch many videos where I'm mumbling to myself "get your feet on the PEGS!!" At 62 and shorter than 5'7", I'm trying to remember this ALL the TIME!! EXCELLENT VIDEO!!1
This has got to be 1 of the best videos for progressing a skilled rider to the next leval of becoming 1 with there bike I have ever seen ... your an absolute legend RL 👊🏻🏁🏁
Beautiful. Crystal-clear and educational as always. Sitting in technical situations for me is admitting defeat; I try to avoid it at any cost and I know I got something wrong when it happens.
as usual, very helpful and useful tips. I will never be a Jarvis rider but learning and applying this skills has made my regular trail rides that much better
Recovering from injury ....gonna practice foot dabs in my garage ! Thanks for helping us remember that there's always more to learn about riding and something you can get better at.👊✊✊✊✊
Awesome video, once again. I've noticed this very thing over the years of getting better at hard enduro. As long as you can keep one foot weighted on the peg, you can make it over almost anything.
Dear Rich, thank you so much for your lessons and learning! For me, you're the best teacher of enduro theme)) Thanks to you, i've got many things realized early been beyond of my mind)) God of enduro bless you!))) *handshake*
Great video Keep them coming. You dont get more traction sitting on the rear of the seat. The pegs are closer to the rear tire and put more force into the tire than sitting on the seat does. When trying to get over an obstacle and Im just spinning the rear tire, I put one foot on the peg, push down and use the clutch and throttle at the same time, I get better traction and get over the obstacle. works every time. I'm nowhere near your level, but the technique works :-)
Love your channel and the breakdown of specific moves. I am looking for a used trials bike to practice on as I'm not ready to see my expensive (for me) enduro bike. Keep up the good work!
I've only been riding single track/enduro style riding for a few years, and at 54 yrs old and out of shape, technique is paramount to having decent days on the bike. That said, this is a REALLY good video for guys trying to improve their skills, but still haven't made sense of what dabbing is for, when to do it, when you should try to stay on the pegs and throttle through etc.
Another excellent video. Instead of practicing the controlled, side/ side dab between logs how about trying it on off camber. It’s a rewarding challenge to be forced to dismount on the downhill side of the bike while keeping the bike balanced. Your knee pit or ankle are often all that’s left on the seat.
I need to train more on this, its not easy with short legs though. But it's very obvious when you ride in tough terrain, when both feets are down its game over, i rather restart the section/obstacles if possible :)
Sometimes when you don’t need the help of the suspension you can get more traction sitting on the rear of the seat. Everyone knows when you want to clutch start a bike and traction is limited you will drop to the back of the seat. And you usually do this after you’ve already tried it from the pegs with no success.
I’d disagree. I’ve had much more success, as a light rider, bouncing my weight to the back of the bike, while standing on my pegs. If I drop/sit to the back of the seat, I’m not able to get the grip
I'm barely a gumby at enduro/hard enduro, but I can observe some mechanical issues here; Stand on your seat, when you push that seat sideways back and forth, your feet physical move 1 foot to the side in order to move the seat 1 foot to the side, when you stand on your pegs, and your feet move 3'' to the side the seat also, again, moves 1 foot to the side + - . there is no 'mechanical advantage' here, however you are increasing your mobility 4 fold, you essentially become 4 times the rider that you were when you predominantly sat, you can flick the bike all over the place as required in hard enduro. Here in lies or lay the trade off; it's comfy and takes less energy to sit on the bike, true ( I do that a lot), but as is mentioned in this video, the topic of this video is keeping the momentum, once you've lost it, it's difficult to regain it, you then can exhaust yourself carrying your bike from rock to rock or log to log etc... So in the long run, all things being equal, in challenging situations, it pays huge dividends to stand and ''not weight the ground''. I'm always looking for opportunities to sit and rest instead of stand lol, but I know the difference, and this video makes that even clearer.
The control you have over wheel spin boggles my mind. But what I really want to know is do you think you would have that same control on say a 2018 ktm xcw carburetor. I do understand I won’t be able to ride like you on any bike but I’m looking at buying a 2018 xcw. Thanks!
Exactly! Not being a young man I have had to spend many, many hours on the stationary bike, rower and weight work to get good leg strength - and all that just to be able to stand comfortably for a long time while riding. But it has been worth it! 🦵🦵💪💪👍
Hell yeah! Great info. I don’t know if it is me or the bike but, my WR450 seems really unstable and hard to static balance. I get on the CRF450R, and have minimal issues. What gives? Either way i think the WR is going away for a 2 stroke of some sort.
Stroke Brad here(lost balance) Can't wait to try this at low to no speed. Last year I couldn't get off the seat at all, now I can stand going up and downhill on asphalt(short stints), and a little bit coasting downhill on a dirt road, uphill is still a no go, but can't wait to use this skill and then more uphill dirt roads standing. your tips, have really been a playbook to recovery, Big thank you!! Haven't seen you in a while, hope your racing lots and surviving the heat!! Cheers
Hey Rich, maybe you touched on this in another video, but are you on a EX? I would've figured a hard Enduro rider would prefer the EC. Comment on that?
I'm 6'2" Its definitely an advantage. But Mario Roman is about the same height as you. Around 5'7" 5'8" he does these techniques with ease. It's more about the time you put in.
I might consider sliding forks a few mills up, a little sag at the rear to cover the height difference. It's nice hearing from a pro. Liked that. Thank you
The most important unspoken hard enduro technique, be over 6’2” tall. Don’t think so? Trials bikes have no seat to give frame/crotch clearance. And every hard enduro pro is tall as hell. MX guys are small, hard enduro guys are tall with long legs. If you are an honest instructor, you would say that.
Graham Jarvis is under 6 foot Mario Roman is 5’8”. Sandra Gomez is 5’6. Height helps absolutely. But being 6’2 isn’t a requirement. That’s your second try looking for something to hate. I’d say less time commenting and more time riding might help you.
