Riddler Struggles to solve the Hardest Riddle of them all. Jokers Asylum: Riddler #comics #content #explained #explore #new #batman #dc #dccomics #joker #riddler #arkhamasylum
@@meliponalord8892 who, his neighbors? Who they gonna call? Gordon? I mean, if i see many supervillains visit some dude and leave peacefully, i would keep my mouth shut, aint wanna be Bane next victim or go to Ras naughty list
@@osirisshadoll4572 They did threaten Eddie. But I'd get suspicious that Eddie is a supervillain, and do an anonymous report to the cops, which would obviously eventually reach a superhero because that's just how it happens.
Do you think those are some balls? How about on the very same page (3:03), Bane threatens to snap Eddie's neck for not complying with him, only for Eddie to ask on the next panel: (where they change Bane to Killer Croc) "Is that a promise?" And get this, while saying that, Eddie only looks bored too, no terror, no brown-pants mode.
They didn't really show up. The story tells that one of the bat villains came asking for riddler's help. It doesn't specify who he/she was and keeps showing random bat villains playing the role of this mysterious one.
I'd like to think that the joker has manipulated or "convinced" all the main baddies from gothom to get at batman. He uses the villians like pawns to play with Batman and when ever they get out of line, he either sets them straight or replaces them. Truly an evil genius
I think it’s the Joker, on the fact that in this comic he wears the same purple gloves as riddler and the fact he never shows up to Riddler to plan something alongside Riddler.
@Mullet-Man Comics I always suspected Joker too but based on the old trope "how does a character telling the story know about it if he was supposedly not there?" He's technically never implied he wasn't there, but the visuals never show him there either so which of the two are we to believe? We clearly can't trust the visuals since even those were manipulated to hide Eddie's real visitor. If Joker really is complete unreliable narrator then I think it's also possible he made all of it up for gossip or something. Edit: but then again by that latter logic, could he have possibly made up every other story in the Joker's Asylum series too?
Plus, any of the other villains would have likely figured something else out not caring much that Nygma didn’t want to help them. And to The Riddler himself he wouldn’t be solving the riddle by doing this. But to the Joker? What fun is it for The Riddler to give up and and simply be Edward Nashton? Where’s the game in it? And it’s not like he wouldn’t know exactly how Edward would react. The Joker is a master manipulator as much as he is anything’s else. Most other villains, even if they knew about why he quit, would have probably just thought to kill her, but then the riddle would go unsolved forever.
The visitor was Clayface. Joker even mentions during the climax of the book that he's already shown you the answer, and the shapeshifting giant is the only one who could pull those transitions off in real time.
I kinda figured Clayface would've just used his powers and impersonated her directly if anything, instead of going through the hassle of taking a hostage,.
I love how Gotham's criminals are basically a big family. They stopped by to see if Riddler had a new scheme, but we all know they really stopped by as a wellness check.
Nope, the hints are in the story. It is full of visual and written references to the cards in a deck. "king of clubs". Diamonds, Ace, the woman holding a flower as the queen in the cards does. But there is one single card from a deck missing. One that never gets a visual reference. The card that beats them all. The card that wins by not following the rules. The Joker. He was the villain needing Riddler to work with him.
@@suleymanbabak1973 that does make sense when you put it like that, the reason I almost instantly assumed it wasn't the joker was I could never imagine him as a dark "serious" looking figure without springy or "Bouncy" hair indicated in the dark outline or wearing a bold get-up. But I still think it's someone else because I rewatched the video and found a joker card hint at 3:30
There's a choose your own adventure comic with riddler. It's a small thing but I highly recommend any riddler fan to read it. Imo and the content creator I watched it from, it's the best showcase of the riddlers character.
I love this story for the simple fact that it slaps Riddler in the face due to his narcissism. The dude is essentially painted as a giga-incel in this story. Sending a million gifts and paying off her debts, and then abandoning his entire crime empire to chase this random ass girl which he talked to for like 18 seconds, all so that he could prove to himself that he was capable of solving "the riddle" he imposed on himself.
I think it was the joker since he’s both the narrator and he’s the only one not shown in the story. Love Joker’s asylum, you should do killer crock next because it’s the best one in my opinion.
I think the mysterious person who set up the riddler was joker. Joker mentioned "They had built him a house. But it was a house of cards." Joker, while telling this story, built a house of cards and on the last panel he knocks the house of cards down. I believe this symbolizes Joker being the one to give a little nudge that would lead to the riddler solving the "riddle" and the house of cards (riddler's obsession with jessica) to fall.
It's also quite ironic that the Riddler wanting to be the smartest man in room, ended up not even acknowledging the very answer right in-front of him at first. He is a criminal, and his personality isn't even great. So he ended up trying find an answer to her former lovers. Only to revert back to what her first impression saw... A brutal and uncaring man.
Riddlers whole weakness is his Ego and Narcissism. I bet he knew the real answer but hated the real answer for the life of him. Also i think its the joker who threatened the girls fathers life cause it is already obvious why riddler decided to quite as a villian among other villians and that rumor probably spread among batmans iconic villian groups.
How wild is it that villains in full costume were just showing up to Riddler's apartment? You're telling me nobody noticed Clayface and Killer Croc wandering the halls??
It was black mask who kidnapped the father. The reason I think so is because Black mask had the same pattern on his tie as Jessica had on her dress the same day she met the riddler in that heist. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
I mean the figure certainly looks like black mask tbh. and it's certainly in his character to do something like this if for whatever reason he wanted to team up with the riddler
@@OK-yy6qz I agree. If I remember correctly, Black Mask was the last villain who visited the Riddler, leaving with a sinister line. I believe it's stupid for people to blame Riddler or The Joker because it wouldn't make much sense and it would be too obvious.
@@tree9208 tbf Joker is an unreliable narrator. Only one person visited the Riddler. The panels just kept showing different people because Joker didn't want to reveal who. It could be black Mask,or the Joker or Clayface. But i like the idea that it was Black Mask. There are a few clues on the Joker as well though. Like he's wearing the same purple gloves as the riddler wore when he killed the girls father. And he said the change the Riddler had was like a house of cards,then the next panel is him tearing down a house of cards
riddler clearly was infatuated with this woman. at the start, there was no riddle. he really liked her. imo, what killed the fun for him is that the riddle was solved too quickly, and by a solution he didn’t come up with. his joy conflated with doubts, and he became disillusioned, even though he did like her
I think it was clayface. I think Clayface is the only Villian that visited Riddler which is why it's one long continuous conversation between (supposedly) different villians (some of which would have no interest in teaming up with the riddler anyways). He's also probably the one that killed the Father. Although the most logical answer is probably just the Joker himself
Deadshot - he went to Eddie's house, he is famous for guns,and is part of task force X,so probably thought he could stop one of Gotham's most infamous criminals by making Jessica love eddie
Honestly I think the most obvious suspect would be one of his henchmen, maybe out of loyalty in an attempt to help his boss achieve happiness or move on or they just wanted their boss to stop moping about and get back to work.
That joe goldberg comparison was wild accurate. And ended up doing what Joe did when he got what he wanted, he wasn't satisfied and he missed the thrill of the chase.
The visitor was Black Mask. When Riddler first meets Jessica at the museum, she’s wearing a dress covered in clubs. Later on in the comic, Black Mask shows up at Riddler’s apartment wearing a tied covered in clubs. Then, when Jessica’s father shows up at her door with a gun to his head, she’s even holding a three-leaf clover. On top of that, the visitor’s silhouette matches Black Mask’s, exactly. Need I say more?
Why not? He’s one of, if not the most, dangerous gangster in Gotham. He has a knack for torture, and is willing to do whatever it takes to get what he wants.
I am glad you brought this one up, I love Joker's Asylum, I think it's a really underrated series, hope there's a third one someday. Also I never figured out who that one mysterious person was, is there an actual answer? I always assumed it was the same person visiting the riddler, only showing multiple villains to muddle the answer.
The gun the visitor holds bears a stark resemblance to the gun the Riddler is holding after shooting her dad. Further the silhouette kind of reminds me of that oh the bit where he's wearing the cardigan, mostly due to the collar and frequent use of Riddler's shadow. However the line "Ol' Eddie Nigma didn't realize how easy it really was" suggests it can't be the Riddler. I suspect the answer has something to do with the constant imagery of card suits but I can't make heads or tails of it. Just a reminder of the Joker? Or a hint that he was shaping events (and by extension was the visitor)?
The fact that joker is talking about the story in such detail and with such enthusiasm implies that he has personal stake in it. Knowing how joker likes to corrupt people, it was most likely him. It does sound too easy to point and say that joker did it, and it could be anyone, since joker never gave a concrete answer, but none of the other villains would care enough to try and get riddler with his girl, and Joker being a chaotic little rodent would definitely be down with putting another criminal on the street.
Ok having gone through it 3 times, some of them are a little abstract but I reckon all 52 cards are shown bar J of Clubs (or Clovers if you prefer). Though there was also a 12 of Hearts and 17 of Diamonds, I dunno what to make of that. And a number of cards came up multiple times, but I didn't keep track of duplicates.
@@amanwithnoplans6592 well it could also be the Riddler himself, either snapped into a disassociative episode or got black out drunk either way its a possibility that he was the visitor and just doesnt remember as for the joker telling the story, well he just likes telling cruel "funny" stories, remember the comic where he tells us the story about two face torturing a scarred firefighter? he had no involvement in that story but was still the narrator in fact, this comic and the twoface one are from an anthology series about the joker telling stories about the other gotham villains
I absolutely love the idea that the Riddler just rents a random apartment in Gotham. Everyone knows about it but the police doesn't care. And every now and then the other villains come over to watch Quiz Shows and play Clue or they invite him to commit crimes together. Wholesome.
i think the joker was the one who did it, or at least a henchman he sent, since he would definitely be the type to cause as much chaos as possible by keeping of all the villains as villains
Since it turns out these Clayface was the one who threaten the Dad, I guess kind of ended with some kind of wholesome ending. Riddler’s friends taking action into their own hands to break the deadlock was seemingly heartwarming
Probably was Joker. He knew all the details of the story, he could've been the one constantly sending people over to recuit Riddler into a plan, and Riddler wouldn't have felt like he solved the riddle if he _forced_ her to love him. It's a very in style way of Joker re-villainizing someone.
Riddler is one of the smartest villains other than Lex in Batmans gallery. So it would make sense that if Riddler isn't doing any activity like doing a 10 step bombing riddle heist then it would make sense for the other villains to wonder what happened.
My guess is that it can be a henchmen of the Riddler who wanted his old boss back, or it could be Joker dressed up as a random bald guy wanting him back to mess with batman, or it could be Jason Todd also wanting him back to mess with batman (I like this one because his outfit matches most with the silhouette and Jason would absolutely point a gun at someone AND do anything to kill batman). Those are my guesses though with the Joker being the most unlikely and Jason being the most likely and a random goon being a second choice.
My suspects: Joker - This seems like the exact thing he would do upon hearing about it because if they did continue to be a couple it would be a fake and hollow lie which he could use to frick up the riddler later or if it didn’t he could have ruined the proverbial riddle by changing the answer Al’goul: Seriously, getting the league to do this for him so he could get a useful piece back onto the board strikes me as his kind of move. He probably could tell it was all just puppy love The henchman he beat up at the start: The boss needed a wake up call was all.
@@shauryapandey6018 I just don’t see clay face as that petty. I really don’t. Clayface would kill, no doubt, but I don’t think he is petty enough to get involved in the love life of someone as insufferably smug and irritatingly disruptive as Edward.
They made the head silhouette shiny and smooth to throw us off, but the trench coat and silk shooting gloves are a distinct Joker style. Also the Joker has been known to click and grease his hair back.
If the mysterious figure in 3:40 wasn't the riddler, the joker, or any of the other villains that we saw before then the mysterious figure has to be the henchman that riddler smacked before in 1:09 For one reason or another it's the only thing that makes no sense and yet does It doesn't really matter because the end result is the same, heck it could've been batman.
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Personally I could see it being Joker who pushed the “do it or I kill your dad” bit. Nigma was trying to solve her, find the answer to what she wanted in a love interest. Threatening her dad would be like a cheat code. You got the prize without the work, without the real answer. Not his style. Bug Joker giving Nigma why he thought he wanted to watch Nigma go back to Joker’s idea of fun and watch this woman suffer? Yeah, that seems like a good fit.
it might be unrelated but the silhouette of the man with a gun at 03:40 and the pose the Joker has in the bottom left panel at 04:33 are pretty similar...and the timing
Here are some interesting implications for some characters it might be. This is more of a what-if than theory. Joker: The obvious answer. This implies that the Joker wants batman to have more adversaries. He enjoys controlling people’s lives as long as they annoy batman. The joker sees riddler(and possibly other villains) as less of a third wheel to the batman-joker dynamic than the bat family (ref. Death of the Family). Riddler: This reinforces the idea that Riddler has no idea what affection is and he desires to “win” by any means necessary. This shows a superiority complex which we do see in the Hush movie. Raas Al Ghul: This would imply that Raas actually sees Riddler as useful. Batman: This would confirm that Batman has a superhero complex. The batman is nothing without villains. Bruce Wayne is just an alter ego and he cannot stand to lose Batman.
It’s possible it could be the royal flush gang, since the characters in several panels have playing cards themes like penguins diamonds hat, harley quinn hearts, poison ivy spade leaf, and other pages have playing cards Easter eggs.
@@deckie_ And one panel has a painting of a Crying Jester. All the other panels display a specific card from a deck of cards. So, once you remove all 52 cards, and the Sad Jester from a deck of cards, you're left with only one card: The Laughing Joker.
Such an interesting story with elements of reality mostly speaking about we think we love someone we will do anything to be with them until we're actually with them we realize we're mostly into the chase gosh how I learn how much that's just the majority of looking for love real love you have to really know what it is it's hard to explain but when you feel it you just feel it
one of these days someone is going to figure out that the riddler is not the joker. the joker is the one with the card theming. hell, i'd have accepted the queen of hearts thing from the mad hatter, too.
But Joker is the one telling the story. That's why she is the Queen of Hearts. It's a clear signal of our narrator, a Cleber way to remind us that Joker isn't the most reliable guy out there. It's also a clue for who was the mystery guy (the whole card symbolism)
that's probably part of the solution to the comic but I'm way too tired right now to look it up and go panel-by-panel analyzing it from what I've seen reading it myself it looks like it's a different card for each panel - there's always a different number of each symbol (2 hearts in riddler's eyes/9 'spade' books on the shelf), or they have a number accompanying it instead My best guess is that you're supposed to find out which card is missing from the standard 52-card deck, or maybe you're supposed to analyze each character to find the motif on their outfit, and then match it to the ace of hearts motif on the panel with the visitor Might be off, might not, but whatever
It took the Riddler like 3 time too figure out maybe being a super villain where she literally met him while trying to rob a place might have been the problem
I personally think it was riddler who threatened jessica. He was pretty fast to lose interest, almost like he solved it. The other villains could be ver possible, however, none of them would be halted completely to the point of not being able to do their plans without riddler. They'd just go find a different route.
I personally think it was Riddler. Because a riddle isn’t solved unless he “figures it out” himself. But I love when comics do that. They leave things open to interpretation. Batman comics do that a lot.
One thing that gets me with this story is what's the painting Riddler took? It's always turned away from the viewers where you can only see the silhouette. It never gets a name until the very end where Gordon calls it "The Howl." What's the significance of that name? And what does it have to do with the features vaguely defined in the work itself, which seems to me be, two people holding out hands to each other?
This is a very good question - I didn’t notice this detail upon my first viewing. I’m really curious to know the answer too. I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone else mention this. Do you think that’s based off of a real life panting, maybe..?
The man was very clearly the Joker. It's in his personality. He wants Gotham to stay the exact same shit hole it is and that can't happen if any of the rogues gallery end up becoming rehabilitated.
Joker is literally the only villain to do it for shits and giggles... The other ones would need some ulterior motives, like power and valuables, but Joker? He would do it just because...
