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The ONE Time You SHOULDN'T Backlight... 

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Backlight is the way to go...except when it isn't.
How come no one told me this?
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Комментарии : 77   
@AndreiLucaa
@AndreiLucaa 8 месяцев назад
Cool stuff! More Cine Tracer content 🔥
@brackendegn8694
@brackendegn8694 8 месяцев назад
I love imagining some RU-vid DP stumbling across Patrick’s channel and hearing him tell them they’re not very good and imaging their face. 😂
@flochfitness
@flochfitness 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@robinprobyn1971
@robinprobyn1971 8 месяцев назад
@@flochfitness I think a lot of the really good ones are a bit insecure , or humble enough to know they are always learning . Even Sir Roger and others Ive read about, always say they are nervous on the first day , or don't like to see rushes or look into the viewfinder to calm their nerves and not have to answer any questions was another one.
@JLSTibu
@JLSTibu 8 месяцев назад
Cine Tracer for your breakdowns feels so OP. I would suscribe to your Patreon again if you do a series of only Cine Tracer content like this. It's really great.
@Visethelegend
@Visethelegend 7 месяцев назад
His courses are done with cinetracer
@keith-knittel
@keith-knittel 8 месяцев назад
My go-to for extending golden hour has been to diffuse the subject from the sun and bring in a light to "offest" once it really starts going down, instead of blocking it out completley. This gives you a few more minutes if needed, but after a while the sky gives it away and it looks too lit. Then using neg on the opposite side (where you were using your light mat). Cheat the camera to the shadow side of the line. My thought process was to have the neg on the other side of the subject from the sun. Same subject positioning from the sun, but opposite of your neg and light setup here. I'm probably wrong. Going to try this setup next time! Thanks for the breakdown
@Studio23creation
@Studio23creation 8 месяцев назад
Nice one ! But why not use diffusion for the low sun and maybe neg on the other side, instead of the neg shadow and bounce you propose, which introduce a big issue : the direction of main light on the talent is opposite to the direction of light on landscape, thus creating a very artificial look ?
@bearcammedia
@bearcammedia 8 месяцев назад
the neg would not wrap around the talent, it would take away the ambient wrap that he is going for. As I see it...
@robinsquares
@robinsquares 6 месяцев назад
Good solution! But I wouldn't say this creates an artificial look. We're used to seeing humans in the shadow of a big object at sunset.
@innastateStudios
@innastateStudios 7 месяцев назад
Great video and software! Wow incredible! I read a long long time ago in a landscape photography book, while using a pol filter, the best location to point the camera at for the bluest sky look is a 90 degree angle 📐 away from the sun ☀️ 🤗
@flochfitness
@flochfitness 8 месяцев назад
This is amazingly helpful. Please keep learning what you are screwing up and sharing it with us. 💪🏻
@SketchBenjamin
@SketchBenjamin 7 месяцев назад
phenomenal. Thank you 🔥 And I love that you didn’t edit out the stuff when your computer’s dying
@kwa42
@kwa42 8 месяцев назад
this is absolutely fantastic thank you soo much for the video! appreciate how well you take maximizing shooting time, scheduling and wide shot coverage into consideration
@greggant88
@greggant88 7 месяцев назад
These cine tracer breakdowns are a fun change up from the usual breakdowns. Would love to see more of them!
@stu9000
@stu9000 8 месяцев назад
I’m shooting my first feature right now and we just had a sunset scene that this would have been handy for 😂 Thanks Patrick
@drewh79
@drewh79 8 месяцев назад
this is such a great lesson, cheers bloke
@NikolayZhukov_nio
@NikolayZhukov_nio 7 месяцев назад
As always till very end. Thank you so much for your time and sharing this brilliant technique 🙏🏼
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
1% gang
@DavePattenFilm
@DavePattenFilm 8 месяцев назад
Seconding everyone's comments on more cine tracer content, this is excellent
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
more is on the way
@jaredfilms
@jaredfilms 8 месяцев назад
But doesn’t the key then feel off since the sun is lighting the background but now the key (which is ambient or bounce) is coming from opposite direction? If there’s a building on the blocked site I think it would work but other than that?
@Studio23creation
@Studio23creation 8 месяцев назад
yes ! i commented the same thing. seems off.
@elliotonl8839
@elliotonl8839 8 месяцев назад
I guess it depends what look you’re going for. Dune as an example implements some cool blocking & comp to make it feel natural. Sometimes you need a lot of level on the key to illustrate an expression (especially in the current commercial space)
@purplekloud1
@purplekloud1 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for explaining so well
@yottstwitch7222
@yottstwitch7222 8 месяцев назад
Please do a video on backlighting techniques and looks in camera.
@dukecha
@dukecha Месяц назад
Not sure if you'll get to this comment since video was uploaded 6 months ago, but I was wondering how you decided which side of the subject to backlight from. If there is a key light wrapping around a subject, when do you stylistically choose to backlight the key light side and when you choose to backlight the shadow side?
@DanielScotch
@DanielScotch 7 месяцев назад
Great content bro! valuable info
@haxstir
@haxstir 8 месяцев назад
IMHO when she's in shadow the soft key, even though soft, is to directional to feel like magic hour. You'd have to use other bounces and reflectors to cover left, right and top to get a real feeling as if it's magic hour that then matches real magic hour when the sun sets.
@remidays6664
@remidays6664 6 месяцев назад
Nice clip!
@isaakkimmel6951
@isaakkimmel6951 8 месяцев назад
Fantastic! Thank you for your knowledge :)
@coudik
@coudik 8 месяцев назад
amazing video as always! i have one point tho. it the bg would be more complex, now its front lit - meaning very flat, right?
@JacoxNovak
@JacoxNovak 8 месяцев назад
Gotta try this out, for me this is really out of the box, haha, good stuff
@wenjun_n
@wenjun_n 7 месяцев назад
Loved the technique, but this method still probably be quite the challenge for places near the equator. The weather changes and the sun angles just don't play nice.
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
i've never used the equator excuse before for poor results but I will definitely add it to my arsenal for travel jobs in the future
@OuterEastLLC
@OuterEastLLC 8 месяцев назад
Great info. Thanks for sharing.
@MarineSwan
@MarineSwan 8 месяцев назад
why you dont use a diffuser like a full silent or 1/2 for sunlight? am i missing somenthing?
@younglil7943
@younglil7943 8 месяцев назад
I guess because in the setup he showed, it would’ve been front lit
@thepropolys
@thepropolys 8 месяцев назад
Why is he using a light to represent a bounce? Is the luminosity supposed to be analogous to different bounce materials?
@DLHMedia
@DLHMedia 8 месяцев назад
You mention starting the sunset look at 3pm, but wouldn’t the sky be blue until sunset time? How would you match the closeups with the wide with a blue daylight sky? Thanks for all your work- I’m also a Patreon sub and love your insights.
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
less fov the closer you go means you have a higher chance of being able to control the bg
@thomasjguyton
@thomasjguyton 4 месяца назад
Wow so damn helpful
@oleksandr785
@oleksandr785 7 месяцев назад
Neg the whole scene is not always an option but anyway maaan this is so insightful!!!
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
if you can't neg the whole scene you made a mistake before you even showed up
@westwoodmanorfilms7779
@westwoodmanorfilms7779 8 месяцев назад
Good Stuff! Thank you.
@leoquesto9183
@leoquesto9183 8 месяцев назад
Why must thou rock? Because ‘tis thine calling, Rocker! Another big banger.
@MansionFilms
@MansionFilms 8 месяцев назад
Well done
@jackbarron8880
@jackbarron8880 8 месяцев назад
Backlight everything....made a difference to my cinematography.
@virtualcircle285
@virtualcircle285 8 месяцев назад
These 3d tutorials in Cin data are great
@lucatraverso529
@lucatraverso529 8 месяцев назад
very helpful!
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
I'm glad!
@atari1001
@atari1001 8 месяцев назад
But wouldnt the background be front light and flat such as landscapes and buildings?
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
find a way
@braxtonwoullard1188
@braxtonwoullard1188 7 месяцев назад
What is the name of this software?🤔
@cinema-q
@cinema-q 8 месяцев назад
This is brilliant...
@michaelrankine2801
@michaelrankine2801 8 месяцев назад
Love this cine tracer content
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 8 месяцев назад
everybody seems to like the cinetracer stuff the best. the people have spoken. more to come
@MylonasFilms
@MylonasFilms 8 месяцев назад
Cine tracer was killin me. I hope you get better at it 😅😂😂
@chelo111
@chelo111 6 месяцев назад
@MarioGarcia-cp2ql
@MarioGarcia-cp2ql 8 месяцев назад
Hi! Do you know the name of that computer program for lighting simulation?
@jaredfilms
@jaredfilms 8 месяцев назад
it’s cine tracer
@qiyuantan
@qiyuantan 8 месяцев назад
its Cine Tracer
@MarioGarcia-cp2ql
@MarioGarcia-cp2ql 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@haxstir
@haxstir 8 месяцев назад
@@MarioGarcia-cp2ql you have to run it inside Unreal Engine.
@studiojoua
@studiojoua 8 месяцев назад
Hi ! What about diffusing sunlight and putting the neg to the other side ?
@Studio23creation
@Studio23creation 8 месяцев назад
yes, exactly what i commented ahah. would be more natural. seems simpler too.
@younglil7943
@younglil7943 8 месяцев назад
I guess because it would’ve been front lit like that, and even if you diffuse the sun as a side light, there would still be the sky problem
@vinc74600
@vinc74600 8 месяцев назад
@@younglil7943 we can move the talent angle and camera a little to have back lit and almost the same sky/background situation.. the setup he presents remains interesting and can be useful in particular cases
@CritterElectronics
@CritterElectronics 7 месяцев назад
Which program is this ?
@tutorials859
@tutorials859 8 месяцев назад
more stuff like this in 3d
@TinyCometFilms
@TinyCometFilms 8 месяцев назад
I'm not very good at cinematography the way you used to be not very good at cinematography back when you were actually not very good at cinematography
@wanderingdp
@wanderingdp 7 месяцев назад
i know that feeling
@miloplacas
@miloplacas 8 месяцев назад
Epiccccc
@cockerjc
@cockerjc 8 месяцев назад
Great work.
@Braedin
@Braedin 8 месяцев назад
I’ve shot into that bright 20+ stop DR gradient in the sky after the sun is gone and regretted it every time. 🫡
@deonvnzl
@deonvnzl 8 месяцев назад
same! haha. this is a great episode.
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