The One To Buy Is NOT What You Think! Ford Excursion vs Chevy Suburban 2500 

diesel 6.7l and the new 10 speed

Exactly,7.3 s 430 hp is quite a leap from the original 260 hp v10 .

6.7 with a 6r140

even a 6.2 v8 would be decent.

You can thank the epa for letting this not happen

Spot on. Great review

Only issue is the excursion was never offered with a reliable engine like the 2500 suburban was.

@@Back_door_bandit_98 lol wat? The 7.3 is one of the most loved diesel's in history. The biggest downfall to the v-10 is it spits plugs occasionally. Takes 30 mins to fix usually. I've also see them in the 2-300k frequently.

@@mr.kcfromthe8138 spits plugs? my V10 has 289k and never spit a plug....torque them to proper torque and they don't come out.

@@Back_door_bandit_98 😆 🤣 😂 the 7.3 and the v10 are easy 500k mile engines I'd say the v8 gassers have the same issues 300k. He'll I get 19 mpg in my wife's 7.3 4x4 13mpg towing a 8k camper loaded seats and dogs in the back...

Yea but the Expedition has never really been a hardcore off road vehicle. It's been a big SUV. It's always been tend for families with like 4 or 5 kids.

Lol. The Expedition has always been a "pavement princess" since day one, same with the Explorer.

Bring back the 3/4 ton Suburban as well, except base it on the Silverado 2500 HD platform.

@@jonlosito2004 Honestly I don’t really see no point of expedition, minivans offer way better utility at a cheaper price than a expedition

@@aimxdy8680 yea I know. Minivans used to be in high demand back in like 1980s to early 2010s, and my parents used to own a 2005 Nissan Quest and it was very practical. I miss that minivan soo much it was my childhood. And now crossovers and SUVs are soo tremendously popular, and there’s just too many of them nowadays, and I’m not usually a fan of them, (except for sporty SUVs and off roaders which are also in high demand now).

also anyone with an excursion do your self a favor and install a hellwig rear sway bar it made a world of difference in handling and drive comfort

Yeah I keep my 2001 Ford excursion XLT V10. Easy to fix and dam near fun to drive.

The V10 was more reliable than the V8 in most cases

More horsepower & torque with the V10 than the 7.4 though.

@@galevest4545 LOL A Triton v10 reliable that's a good joke.

@@dedalliance1 believe me I know know how much garbage the Triton is.

Probably not a good idea to tell a Ford guy that a Triton is junk unless you're ready to pull your dildo out js

And General Motors can have a heavy duty Suburban and Yukon XL.

@@abutts02 heavy duty but not a Ford! That Excursion is built Ford tough, period. No comparison between the two.

7.3, nothing else.2000 on. keep up services, last million miles..they say.. im in aus. they sell 2003 s/duty,7.3, here for 80k. new ones are 160k..

Ford licensed the name recently with the tbird so yeah don’t be too surprised when they get a power stroke excursion going.

@@harrywalker5836 new ones like the gas 7.3 or low mile diesel

go do a video on that bad girl!!! id love to have one in 7.3l

@@nowaysam6349 LOL not a bad idea! I'll have to borrow it from her.

A great "Little Old Lady" car!.

Disagree 8.1 suburbans basically run for ever have 320k on mine and it's been towing trailers over 10k lb daily since new never let me down once still purrs and much better to drive than an excursions way more nibble and quicker

And they are built Ford tough, not like a whimpy GM product

The transmission will go out before the engine will. Just take good care of her and you might see 500K.

Mine has 435k. Still running strong. Will never part with it.

Proper maintenance can put a 7.3 beyond 1m miles.

@@tskraj3190 IF you regularly check the transmission fluid level, rather than waiting for it to slip, it can last a long time.

I finally found a 2000 EXC with the 7.3 just over a year ago and getting ready to start that project. I have an ‘02 550 crewcab with a 10’ flatbed and LOVE IT. Found my Tahoe WAY too small for the fun travels I like and figured the Excursion would be the best fit. Can’t wait till she’s done!

Any difference in fuel economy between the 6.8 & Godzilla?

Yep it had 16k miles and i agree with the guy who bought it if i had the money i would too its my dream truck

On the Excursion,they are cool unique vehicles,but the reality is they aren’t that great as a people mover, and they aren’t a great tow vehicle they are a lot less capable and less stable than a 3/4 ton crew cab pickup .They ride like crap, they feel bigger than they are and in a 4x4, they wander on the road ,they don’t even have enough payload to fill the seats let alone tow anything most are 9000 gvwr and the 4x4 diesel weighs around 8200 lbs ,my Toyota Corolla has more payload at 990 lbs. The wheelbase is relatively short for its height Andy what it’s supposed to be able to pull. This leads to sway and proposing . The suburban is a lot better choice way more civilized and comfortable , much better visibility and more payload and similar towing capabilities.The frame on the 2500 suburban seems too be the same as a 1500s, very small especially in the rear section . I wish they built it on the HD platform in the 2001-06 they didn’t.

@@JohnDiMartino Tf are you talking about? The towing capacity for the last year of 7.3 excursion (2003) is 10,500-11,000 thats more than gm trucks from that year💀

@@JohnDiMartino best towing vehicle to exist from 20 years ago my dad had one

@@JohnDiMartino the excursion has a payload of 1500-2000 pounds. I can seat 8 and everyone's luggage comfortably. While towing 10k lbs easily. I haven't had a 2500 suburban but I've had A 1500 and wouldn't go back to one from my excursion if I had too. Are there better trucks at towing? Absolutely. Do they seat 8 while doing it? Na

What a shame my wife swings my dually around and fits our 3 kids just fine in it.

It would be hard to trade down much further than that.

That's surprising.

@@captaininsano2777 I think when most people say no mechanical issues ever, they mean nothing major. Hell I know a guy who got 340000 miles out of his Ford Ranger with no major mechanical issues.

@@deejayimm That doesn't count. Ranger engines and transmissions aren't really Ford. They come from the Cologne, Germany plant and they are designed and engineered by Mazda.

@@tskraj3190 the 3.0 vulcan?

@@deejayimm Yes. The Vulcan is not really a Ford motor nor is the 2.6, 2.8, 2.9 or 4.0L.

I feel it really depends on what your going for. I like both for different reasons

the stupid U-joints for the 4WD are a pain in the ass, as is the wheel bearings and auto hub seals. It's more rugged but at the same time service sucks.

I also have a 94 k2500 with the 7.4. It’s not a show car or a hot rod, but it’s been very reliable. Even pulled a couple skid steers with it. May be using it to tow a 30 foot camper before long. Won’t knock the excursion if you have one without the 5.4, but I am a gym guy at heart.

Had one myself. Got 300K trouble free miles out of it.

I had the 1990 454SS which is basically the same TBI 7.4 powertrain and same front suspension as your suburban. You should put a tune on it. It wakes it up and it will still be reliable. I miss that truck, but I sure do not miss the 10MPG haha.

That's because in a work truck, TORQUE is more important than horsepower.

Love my 1998 454 2500 burb, barn doors for life is right!

They should have only come with the 7.3. Great vehicle! Mine has 285k miles on original engine/transmission. Only had to change a couple of o-rings and high pressure oil sensor on engine. Starters, batteries and alts have been replaced a few times as on ALL vehicles with almost 300K miles on them. Still pulls 13K lbs like a champ!

two totally different design criteria. in an off-roader im all about Solid axles, in a family hauler? Give me IFS

ford sucks ass always has..

Apples and oranges. Compare targeted off road vehicles to family haulers.

solid axles are always going to be better than ifs, less parts that wear down, easier to work on and, they are way more reliable and durable in every aspect, especially when you have a 3/4 ton , you should really have a solid axle, and if all your doing is driving your family around, whats the point of having a 3/4 ton

Solid front axle will always be my preference.

After my fourth injection pump I got rid of my 6.5

you should have purchased the Excursion! You could have sold it for more than you paid for it today IF you had taken good care of it. Suburbans - NO THANKS ON ANYTHING FROM GM>

What are you throwing in the back of a suburban that is going to max out the payload?

@@markst.germain9286 Lift pump bad? Fuel sock clogged? Seems odd to go through that many without an underlying issue.

@@rockandroll4689 My Suburban is worth more than I paid for it, and I get people wanting to buy it all the time. They're both desired and rare and shooting up in value.

Hybrid with like 650 lbft of torque and their 10 sp would be sweet in an excursion

@@kyleyates8172 or the new ford 7.3 gasser with a 10 speed. And the 1000 ft/lb of torque 6.7 powerstroke would be a nice upgrade.

@@shaneolsen9394 The grand wagoneer L is probably the modern ford excursion

@@TecDLogic it's in the right direction but not quite. The grand wagoneer L had 6 lug axles and a heavy duty truck had 8 lug axles. With the capability of heavy duty trucks today I want an suv on a 1 ton frame and chassis that seats 9 comfortably and tows 15k. That's my complaint about most large suvs if you fill the seats with passengers your payload is done and you cant hardly tow anything

I had a 2001 6.8 liter v10 limited excursion. I never had any issues with any of the drive train. I pulled trees over, upright, drug friends out of mud holes on 40's and bigger tires. Only negative thing i could say about the excursion was it was thirsty as hell for fuel.

Ford......says it all

I have a f350 with the 7.3 L desil and I am having a hard time trying to find a smaller truck that is half as good no car or truck in today's world can compare

Yeah... I had one as well, and it would be just over $500 to fill it here currently if I still had it....

I have one right now, but unfortunately the 7.4L just started knocking. 😢

Really? Because I sell hundreds of trucks a year and the only Excursion I see with any value is the 7.3. The 6.0 and 5.4 are almost unsellable and the V10 sells as a curiosity.

I love the V10, 235,000 miles and still going strong, quiet and reliable, had to replace coils every now and then,whereas the GMs hardly ever go bad.

We have a f350 with a flat bed at work. That v10 is going strong at 470,000+ with no rebuilds, only thing ever done on it was plugs and egr valve.

My 2000 Excursion V10 is going strong at 247,000 miles and going. Leaks nothing and will rip 12k lbs down the road with ease....

That’s because he’s biased

I agree!! And even funnier that those Chevy dashed are Notorious for cracking, I’ve never once in my life seen a Superduty dash cracked

And chevy still to this day hasent made a seat as comfortable as fords.

Have to agree, like the Super- Duty Excursion interiors better the Chevy dash does seem to deteriorate.

@@nickd.4512 this generation leather seat is really comfortable. A lot softer than the fords. My dad has a tahoe with these seats and are great for long trips.

One purchases a Ford for durability not the dash........GM sells for the dash...it's for snowflakes

And he says the GM interiors are high quality lmao 😂 you have

@sneakypete187 oh for sure, quality and GM interiors are words that dont go together. I own a 2002 F150 and that interior is much better than a 2002 silverado interior.

​@@jibrilthegreat35if you like bubbles. Fords the winner

@@samholdsworth420 I like boobs and butts that are round, I see nothing wrong with bubbles. My other truck is a 2012 Raptor, chevy only wishes to make a truck as capable and cool as that.

Of the era, stock for stock, gimme the 8.1 every time. (Although my experience is limited to pickups....) Mo' powah and I really prefer the 8.1's torque curve. The V10 is capable, but I really got tired of listening to it spool up for hill climbs. Even if it doesn't have to, I could listen to that 8.1L rev up and pull all week. The V10/Triton spark plug thing was pretty inconvenient too. Also, for on-road towing or a daily driver... the GMT800 is an amazingly comfy truck that rides and handles with far better manners than the Super Duty. Those solid axles come with a price.

I’ve owned both, v10 first and currently own an 8.1, the 8.1 is a much better motor in my opinion, way more power, and in the trucks you get the 5 speed Allison, that extra gear makes a world of difference, lastly it actually sounds like a big block and not like a Honda Civic like the v10 does,

8.1 will eat a v10 all day long. It has a huge stroke and it's a true big block.

When you're pulling it's all about the stroke. More cylinders with a shorter stroke equals higher rpm. Good for race engines terrible for pulling. Ford has had some terrible engineers over the years. They are all guilty of this but ford takes the cake.

The rhino spray on bedliner could be used on the under carriage too help protect your frame

GM has always lead the truck market for innovating cheapness! I can only laugh at bowtie boys that are in denial of this fact

The 1987 model year was GM's first year for TBI on its truck line up. 88-91 GM still made square body Burbans, K5 Blazer, and 1 ton 4dr crew cab, and cab chassis models. I have a 90 K5 blazer, and love the manual (reliable) 4wd system, and TBI 350.

Depends on your location, west coast gas or diesel prices are high right now.

He should compare the 8.1 Vortec to the v10

@@screwstontxrippimpcripdjsc3630 494ci vs 415 ci...the 8.1 SHOULD have more power than the 6.8. If I were a Chevy guy, I'd be concerned if the V10 came anywhere close to the 8.1.

Suburban with the 8.1 liter will out tow all three. The 7.3,6.5 and the V10. I have a 94 c2500 suburban diesel currently.the power is less than the 7.3 by far. But I get 22 mpg in the diesel suburban. I've owned 2 excursions. 1, 7.3 and 1, 6.0 diesel. The 6.0 would run circles around the 7.3 PSD .like 100 more HP. I can't afford to buy a 7.3 excursion. There like gold right now. The biggest suv ever made!

I'm torn between the two. GMC yukon xl or Ford excrusion. Help me out please

​@@marcusmcpherson5296 for me personally it's no competition. EXCURSION HANDS DOWN. 100%. I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT!

They're one of the 400,000 mile gas engines. With routine maintenance, and not a whole lot else, these engines will run forever. Just torque the spark plugs periodically.

LMFAO you can’t call it a good engine if you have to worry about the spark plugs flying out of the hood and to the guy that said 400k with routine maintenance what do you call tightening the spark plugs every 10k miles? That’s not routine maintenance theirs a reason the 6.8 v10 wasn’t used for very long. A 6.0 vortec or 8.1 vortec will blow the doors off any triton engine in reliability and overall power.

@@Back_door_bandit_98 the vortec they’re own share of issues as well but I think they are all great engines. The V10 and the Vortec motors

@@Back_door_bandit_98 ignorance is abundant with the V10 spark plug issue. The spark plugs, if torqued properly to 25 ftlbs.....Will not come out. 285k on my V10, off roading, towing a 31' trailer, Im not easy on it and never had a spark plug issue.

@@Back_door_bandit_98 talk about misinformed. Hahaha. My dad has a 2002 V10 F350 that pulls his boat and camper around (not flat straight roads either) with over 300,000 miles on it. No spark plug issues. Doesn’t have to retorque them. Nothing but regular maintenance. It’s been so little trouble and so reliable that he refuses to get rid of it for a diesel, even though he wants a diesel. The V10’s only had one actual problem for people that perform proper maintenance. That’s that they get like 10mpg absolutely no matter what you do. Set your cruise on the highway with the wind helping you? Still 10-11 mpg.

Its a 1 tonner. They used to make a 1 ton Suburban, but stopped with the 2000 Suburbans.

@@michaelbenardo5695 What was this supposed 1 ton burb called?

@@DeezNuts-sx9jd C30 for the Chevy, C35 or C3500, depending year, for the Jimmy.

@@michaelbenardo5695 So basically, my original comment stands. No old ass C30 Burb could ever keep up with an Ex.

@@DeezNuts-sx9jd That's not my point. My point is modern Suburban vs Excursion. Naturally, the Excursion, being a 1 tonner, wins.

Were you picking up young chicks in your suburban?

@@jibrilthegreat35 I have no comment 😈

Did you buy the excursion new? Also how often did you change the trans fluid?

@@AB-coyote My uncle bought it new and had records. He took it to the dealer he bought it from and followed their recommended maintenance schedule. He never towed anything heavier than his bass boat. I bought it with 120K miles. Transmission was acting up at 130K and failed at 135K. Shop I always dealt with said they do alot of them. Rarely did they see one last more than 175K miles. Other than that it was a solid rig.

$6,000.00 for a trans??? Glad my old truck is a stick. I know how to rebuild a manual transmission myself.

The ford has more HP and Torque

@@TFLclassics perhaps the difference lays on the power/torque curves and not on the final numbers? maybe the suburban has more low end torque because of the bigger engine, and when it comes to acceleration, power to weight ratio is essential. anyway, great video, i'd rather have a suburban, looks comfortable and that nineties look feels simple yet timeless to me

6.0 or 7.3?

GM never made a "Supercab". Explains why you never saw one.

@@stankymcgee6742 You know what I meant..

What about the chevy 3x3. Those were 4 doors in the 70s and 80s

Don't take less that $20k for that

Is it amazing?

@@88tcoupe yes it is.

@@88tcoupe amazingly amazing

Agreed!

I will penta vouch for amazing. So far 100% amazing, 5 for 5. Who cares if 7.5-11mpg? Worth it. And a sleeper. Looks very close to its 1500 little brother.

You are comparing a truck to a GM product, get out! Look at how the Excursion is built an compare it to a burb, it's literally a joke. GM is not built like a Ford or Dodge, but you like the dash,......snowflake!

only good 6.5t are the ones built by IH,,seeing gm cant build engines, of any type.. the 6.5t is based on a 50,s buik gas engine. thats why they look like a gas engine.. small..

John I currently own 2 Excursions and 7 Ford trucks. My company truck was ( retired now)8.1 GMC 2500 and I have drove plenty of 2500 Burbs as well and my comments are based on experience not brand loyalty. I usually don't respond or respect people who resort to name calling, it usually indicates a limited ability to communicate.

A 350 in a suburban is useless. I never understood why people would buy one.

@@jefferyepstein9210 odd you say that, my 2500 with 350 has done all I have asked it to do.

@@johnsmith-ko8ud Get one with the 454 and you will notice the difference.

@@jefferyepstein9210 350 is more reliable and doesn't suck the same amount of gas idling as it does towing lol

@@jefferyepstein9210 Performance wise they're almost the same. They pack good torque

I agree