The Only Frame Data Guide You Need - SFV Season 5

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This is the complete guide to frame data for SFV, season 5. This video goes over the practical things you need to know about frame data, and how EXACTLY to use frame data to your advantage and see an immediate improvement to your gameplay.
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@namillerable 3 года назад

the youtube algorithm blessed me this morning with your content. Good stuff dude!

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

May the algorithm continue to bless us both

@Frankieyoo222 3 года назад

Thank you for the “step by step” explanation for novice player like myself! The way you breakdown “frame” and showing examples outside of video game was masterpiece! I finally understand the importance of frame data!🤣

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

I'm glad you found the video helpful :)

@bonobostv1250 Год назад

Can't believe it took me until watching this video to find out what "on block" and "on hit " meant. Thanks.

@smokeback 3 года назад

this video helped me properly implement hitstun in the current game development

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Wow that’s awesome! Glad I was able to help out with that.

@sugoikhalsa7015 Год назад

Great explanation for a new player like myself who just started to get into fighting games. Subbed 👍👍

@rhondahoward8025 3 года назад

Well, this feels a lot like homework... but for a fighting game, it's the best kind of homework there is!

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

You gotta do a little research, but it’s part of the fun when you discover something you didn’t know and use that knowledge to immediately win more matches

@rhondahoward8025 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim Thing is, can this apply for fighting games across the board, and not just Street Fighter?

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

@@rhondahoward8025 the knowledge of how frame data works is basically universal. The actually numbers themselves are specific to whatever game you are looking at

@rhondahoward8025 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim I remember learning how to do what are called "cancel combos" for the first time with DBZ Budokai and I was blown away by how easy it was once you get the right timing down. It's gotten me excited to get better at fighting games, so I can escape being a dreaded "button masher".

@pipejrm 3 года назад

Finally I get to really understand frame data! So, it's time to do the homework and for my Ken to get out of silver! Thanks a lot dude, you got a new subscriber. Greetings from Chile! Hope you're doing well in these hard times

@keyboard1234567890 3 года назад

I made it to gold on pure instinct and gut feelings, time to do some homework to push myself further now lol

@bamb00zld 2 года назад

Finally, a video that actually explains frame data in a way that makes sense.

@nahdontevenstart 3 года назад

how to enjoy SFV 1. enter training 2. get overwhelmed 3. try arcade/online 4. realize i need to spend 3 more years in training counting frames

@nahdontevenstart 3 года назад

no but actually this helped a lot, i’m trying to main Balrog and i can’t deal with Lucia’s pressure to save my life

@larsliljeberg3970 3 года назад

Have been wondering for years how? frame dater works and what it is?,this video explained it very well,i know understand the importance of it. you earned yourself a subscriber.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

I'm glad I could help you out! Frame data is indeed very important

@DTortu0 3 года назад

This is a wonderful video! Actually useful and informative Side note: Ken's H tatsu is -4 ob, but in vt1 he is -2

@naquan59 3 года назад

Does it mater he's going to raw shaoyken right after either way.

@chachawho435 3 года назад

@@naquan59 if it's -4 you can punish always with a light normal so why would it matter?

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

See, knowing that fact is doing your homework. I can lead yall to water, but yall gotta drink

@BenyattaMondatta 3 года назад

i was literally just thinking how good a video like this would be yesterday, amazing work

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

I wanted this to come out yesterday, but I am glad you found the video!

@ogfkite 2 года назад

This is helpful! Thank you! But. That Slo-Mo Poison slapping Akuma bout killed me. Lol.

@jlc541 2 года назад

At last I understand why frame is si important thank you dude great job :)

@DelasVC 2 года назад

Hmm, who put this video together though!? I'd really like to thank him!

@The808Ohana 2 года назад

Aloha, just wanted to drop some gratitude for this video as it helps a lot. You've explained it simply but thoroughly I was someone who bought sfv day 1 but never took the time to look into frame data and what it all means. I found your video last night and I've been in training mode since, can't wait to see if you make sf6 content 👍

@ExcaliburPrime7 3 года назад

Great video. Btw I love the online Ken example lmao

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

That hk tatsu is the first thing i learned to punish. It's like a rite of passage

@Street_Hawk Год назад

Hi, I kind of understand you more compared to other tutorial makers. Could you please do a fresh detailed tutorial series for SF6 (newcomers and advanced), assuming the viewer would only watch that? I know you'd have to repeat a lot of stuff that you have already explained in your past videos, but trust me a beginner really loves having everything in one single place in a well-organized and easy-to-understand format.

@lot8113 2 года назад

Cool video, but maybe it's a little too similar to Core-A's one on the same topic. 2 minutes in, and you pretty much used the same clips, same examples, same everything. Not that I think you can't do that, it's a bit weird to watch. Still, the video is pleasant to watch and well put together, so props to you. Edit: later in the video, you actually take a different route, so I guess my annoyance was limited to the beginning.

@Toni-qe3ov 3 года назад

Thanks buddy!!

@pinecone3713 3 года назад

Well it was about time I looked at a frame data vid since I always complain about my matches (it’s just me being salty since I wanna take fighting games competitively and don’t really know the fundamentals:/) but I kinda got and understanding of it, but I am gonna watch it like two more time cause it was too much for my brain lol. (Also subbed I haven’t checked your content yet but hopefully it helps new players like me

@mikecrotch7214 3 года назад

Very Nice I'll apply this as soon as I get my ps4 fixed

@icedrgon 3 года назад

This has helped me SO much.

@TheGoodGoodMan 2 года назад

Thanks

@reau66 3 года назад

Seriously thanks for all of the amazing content!

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Thanks for watching homie :)

@KaizenMaster007 3 года назад

HI NJK, The contents in this video are explained well! I am aware you want to allow the novice to learn about the subject without the complexity of advanced topics distracting them trusting that they will figure out the rest as they improve. I'd like to note this isn't a complete guide for Frame Data. It is a complete novice guide on the subject. I've subscribed to your channel because I appreciate your help teaching the community! I look forward to seeing more of your videos. I'll be sharing your videos with my students as I've done with this one. Keep up the great work and contact me if you'd like to meet on a call. - KaizenMaster

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words homie! And yes, that is exactly my mindset with these videos. Give new players a good enough foundation to work with, and if they need to get into more detail, they will be motivated enough to do that themselves.

@ArvelleWhitaker 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim Hello, Kaizen sent me! i am now a subscriber to your channel!

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

@@ArvelleWhitaker thats sick man! Hopefully the video was useful

@funcionapramim 3 года назад

3rd time RU-vid recommends your Channel. 3rd time I learned alot. Ok.... auto Subscribe.👏👏

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Haha I’m glad you learned something! Thanks for the sub :)

@Limit5482 3 года назад

I felt that Ken ex DP so hard

@RA-lw5gp 3 года назад

As a game developer, i have a question I can't seem to solve or find the answer to. How is it that there are multiple active frames, yet, there is consistency in hit advantage and block advantage? I mean.. It makes a big difference when a hit connects on the first active frame versus the third active frame for example. Let's say the move has +1 hit advantage. Does it have that on the last active frame or the first? No, it always has +1 hit advantage. Which mechanic ensures this consistency? Great video, I liked & subscribed immediately :)

@Fernando_Ribeiro 2 года назад

basically a deltatime running the logic before it even renders the visual frames

@koalabearkhan145 2 года назад

That ken scenario just gave me ptsd. Now I know, and now I can punish it. thanks a lot. Great video

@smokeback 3 года назад

love this thankyou for making the video.helped me understand stun alot more easier.keep up the good work just got a sub

@thechucklman 3 года назад

Holy, love the editing :D

@gerarda8926 3 года назад

Keep up the great work man! The FGC appreciates it :)

@SoulFistGaming 3 года назад

I've always just eyeballed it to get a general sense if which moves are safe and which aren't But in sfv I feel like that has led me to hit a ceiling However I have no intention of trying to learn frame data outside of key moves being safe or not

@abelin5568 3 года назад

Guile’s rolling sobat is -4 on block. Can ken punish it with a standing low kick? Please explain using frame data. I believe it’s because the sobat has a 19/20 frame recovery. Not sure so a little help please.

@jangonauta 3 года назад

Thank you bro.. i finally got it.

@KGershkoff 3 года назад

Great video, one issue though... All of the frame data you may ever know is thrown out the window when used online. Lag adds anywhere 10 and 10,000 frames. So, anything that you do that is anywhere between -2 and +2 is STILL going to get punished!

@dactyl2400 3 года назад

ur very good at explaining stuff ty for this video 🙏🏽🙏🏽

@royaguilarrojas 3 года назад

Great content man! Keep it comming! I like to study all this things, r u still doing twitch?

@biddergick2890 3 года назад

I know how to study frame data, it’s just like taking test though when you play online or against someone are you gonna remember all that 😂? But great video and explanation

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

it is definitely way more fun to just play and figure things out

@biddergick2890 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim Exactly my favorite thing was to mess around with what options I would have after Mika’s forward fierce punch, since it leaves opponents in a -3 and you in 3+ this opens up many options, now I’m tampering with Bison and Seth.

@fdamoreg 2 года назад

i just play and press buttons lol, when those buttons are punished by faster attacks i make a note and move on. technically frame data knowledge and "doing your homework".

@selimc3347 3 года назад

Hi bro, if you make a video on corner pressure or how to avoid from corner pressure, it will be great!

@samuelguo7533 3 года назад

woah almost 600. see u at e3 next year johnny

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Thanks samuel guo

@IVPixel 3 года назад

Sadly Poison's qcb lphp got nerfed I cri evritiem

@iamahorseradish3860 3 года назад

Thanks for the great video, guess I’ve got some homework to do.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

it's ok, we always have homework we should do

@lukagamer9616 3 года назад

Yeah i understand the frame data thanks i'am suscríbete your channel

@And3cha 3 года назад

Nice video, perfect to rookies

@johnjohnson3390 3 года назад

In practice mode how do you know what the start up frame is if the data indicator changes all the time?

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Not sure what you’re asking. Also, best to ask a discord server this question. Let me know if you’d like an invite to one that’s good for newer players

@johnjohnson3390 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim the data shown when you hit in practice changes. It doesn't show the actual start up frame. It does show plus or minus on block but that's it

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

@@johnjohnson3390 to find start-up frames of moves, you need to use FAT Online. It shows the frame-data for all moves. Link should be in the description

@mikef8846 3 года назад

Is the math at 7:53 correct? If the fireball is -2 on block, a 6 frame medium would be beat by a 3 frame light, because it would come out in only 5 frames. You would need a 5f or faster medium buttone, because that would beat the 3 frame light because of the priority of medium over light.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

I should have been more explicit about this, since I meant you need a 6f or faster normal to beat the st.lk > fireball > st.lk chain. Otherwise, you are correct

@mikef8846 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim Ok, thanks for the response. I just wanted to make sure that I am understanding it. A few months ago I reached gold (4001 LP to be exact) and then stopped playing. Now that the colder weather is here, I am going to get back into it and try to take my play to the next level.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

@@mikef8846 That's awesome dude! What things are you working on to try to get to plat and beyond?

@mikef8846 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim I think at this time, I want to try some other characters and perhaps bring each one up to gold. I also want to gain more general character knowledge, such as who has invincible wakeups, overheads, etc. In the long run that may help me bring my main to plat and beyond.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

@@mikef8846 that is fair, but i dont think you need to actually use other characters to learn them. Doing some research for even a couple minutes will be enough. If you just wanna try other characters though, definitely go for it. New characters are always fun

@blackneotheone2978 3 года назад

It a trap 🤯

@bloodmoon920 2 года назад

Where do you see start up frames in training mode?

@psfanboy79 Год назад

So…you need to know what your opponents frame data is to? Or no?

@smenkinsa 3 года назад

wow and i thought timing items in quake was hard

@Quartered_Rodent Год назад

Just be a robot and calculate. Jeez, so simple.

@Linoangelo00 Год назад

so +frame moves are ALWAYS safe and -frame moves are always unsafe?

@doubleeeeeee Год назад

+ is always safe, - is unsafe if they have a move faster than the -. For example if your move ends up -2 for you, but their fastest move is 3 frames, that is still a safe move for you as they cannot punish it.

@thebirthdayskeleton2927 3 года назад

Please help a fella out. How do I turn on the frame data in training mode? I can't seem to find the option to do it and the only thing I can do is turn on that shitty option that makes my character red or blue.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

That option is indeed a pretty crappy option. I believe the frame data is called attack data. So press start, and in the first pause menu, with the restart option and the start and side positioning options, there's an option called attack data. That's the frame data option. While you're at it, turn on the key display option, which shows you what inputs the game is receiving from you.

@johntziannis359 3 года назад

I don't understand frame traps which is probably why I'm still in Silver.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

The understanding will come with time. In the meantime, try doing the ryu stlp > stmp frame trap and try to understand why it works

@johntziannis359 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim I sent you a friend request. Wanna go a couple of rounds? To see where I am at and why i can't rank up.

@verter28 3 года назад

could I get the link to that spreadsheet?

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

You mean the framedata spreadsheet right? I can't believe I forgot to link this earlier, sorry. fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/home

@verter28 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim yes, thanks

@m0xiemarlinspike 3 года назад

I feel stupid

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

This is a mood

@m0xiemarlinspike 3 года назад

@@NotJohnnyKim great video 👍

@mroblige1018 3 года назад

Do your homework Online shotos : Dp Dp Dp Dp Dp Dp

@matthewhuntley8373 3 года назад

I could've just watched core a's video lol All your examples are the same.

@NotJohnnyKim 3 года назад

Core A is the goat

@elliotching1142 2 года назад

the part I don't like your video is you show lots of text on screen yet you speak verbally that is completely different to the screen, and i need to rewind over and over and over and over to listen carefully what u have spoken

@fatemakeus 3 года назад

All of the contents of this video is just basic. And you do ONE EXTREMELY WRONG, the active frame and the recovery frame of the move is super important. And your video is miss leading...pro players use frame data to create counter hit combo and meaty combo. Meaty combo is extremely important in pro play, it is completely depends on active and recovery frame. I assume you know it ...