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Why Learning "Frame Data" Is Important! - In Fighting Games 

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@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Sorry for no upload for the month. Kinda was dealing with personal stuff. Im back and ready to go!
@Mkfan963
@Mkfan963 3 года назад
Is fine we all been there
@user-je2hy8tq2p
@user-je2hy8tq2p 3 года назад
Welcome back
@billy2zenki
@billy2zenki 3 года назад
stay safe, did you joined any MK11 tournament before/current?
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
@@billy2zenki Im not a tournament player, I just like to play for fun.
@iiTzRamon
@iiTzRamon 3 года назад
Let's go Just do IT with more MK😂👍
@joelgonzalez701
@joelgonzalez701 Год назад
The work this guy puts in his videos literally makes me wanna cry, cus he section's the video so you can skip or rewatch a section if you want, he explains EVERYTHING with detail and in different ways so you can understand perfectly, etc. Like I've never seen any RU-vid put in that much attention and work on a video. But what makes me wanna cry is that even though he does all that, he still has problem with people not understanding his vids, therefore hi loses views, and therefore he does not get as much views/money as he SO MUCH deserves
@malintended
@malintended Год назад
Its a great video but dayum, cry worthy? Bro went deep
@phranzayt8616
@phranzayt8616 2 месяца назад
The glaze is insane but I agree
@jacobmcguire9174
@jacobmcguire9174 3 года назад
This guy is like the soccer coach for 16 year olds showing the team a professional soccer game on tv and pointing out every little thing to learn how to play like the pros. The information is very important, but the mindset of the common idiot playerbase will completely negate anything they could learn from it. Great video dude! Keep up the content
@Marcus96s
@Marcus96s 2 года назад
Actually I think that this is the perfect video to watch while also doing it in practice mode ‘frame data’, I honestly understood the whole concept of it by the end of the video. Now I just have to go see which attacks are safe on block and which gives me a advantage and how many frames I have to play with. (I know this is a old comment but I’m commenting for the algorithm to hit people sub boxes lol)
@mattiguess8094
@mattiguess8094 3 года назад
The intro is like a math video for kids lmao
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
That was the goal! 🥸 😆
@1ntoTheAbyss
@1ntoTheAbyss Год назад
I’m 8 years old and this was helpful!
@huhsnare
@huhsnare Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@DEADMANPLAYS
@DEADMANPLAYS 3 года назад
Man I've watched it like 3 times already need more of these advance strategies videos maybe one showing how to juggle the Combo or how to stop button mashing ❤️❤️ much love mate Take care
@n1mand
@n1mand 3 года назад
I need to force myself to stop button mashing and keep calm.xD
@AquosFrost
@AquosFrost 3 года назад
He literally has multiple combo videos already, which you can watch.
@joandarc441
@joandarc441 3 года назад
Me playing Marvel vs Capcom and jojo bizarre heritage: what's that?
@FrostshadowStudios0310
@FrostshadowStudios0310 2 года назад
Frame Data is in every freaking fighting gsme, peanut!
@stealthwarrior3617
@stealthwarrior3617 3 года назад
It has begun, I've been looking forward to this.
@kololemaba6777
@kololemaba6777 3 года назад
Most of us know about frame data but just so entertaining to watch the edited (meme?) part of the video
@shadowninja1275
@shadowninja1275 3 года назад
Now I know what Hit advantage and Block Advantage is, Thanks! What a good tutorial video.
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@zehanjo
@zehanjo Месяц назад
This is a great video for absolute beginners like me trying to dip their toes into understanding frame data. ❤
@violetkalico
@violetkalico 3 года назад
Trying to understand all this at once, almost had a stroke. This is more math than online school has given me.
@hopelesound
@hopelesound 2 года назад
Thank you, finally can understand about frame data
@Zorxeng1990
@Zorxeng1990 4 месяца назад
I know Im a bit late here, but what a great video! Thanks for this!
@enenra5803
@enenra5803 3 месяца назад
Such a helpful video! also what’s the background music please
@hugotussin
@hugotussin 3 года назад
shoutout to mans, improved my gameplay so much
@zymieredempsey842
@zymieredempsey842 3 года назад
thank you for being back hope you get to a mill
@n1mand
@n1mand 3 года назад
Nice, it's like the tutorial from MK11 with voice!xD
@tylerjabroni5
@tylerjabroni5 Год назад
We need an updated one with MK1 content!!🙏
@pooritech
@pooritech Год назад
Thank you man. Your intro I more informative than 99 of the content on the topic. Thank you! Insta sub.
@FalconDove
@FalconDove 3 года назад
super helpful, also aided explaining frames to a few friends
@Running_from_the_Dog
@Running_from_the_Dog 3 года назад
very comprehensive. i will now subscribe! learn positives and negatives to earn bigger positives (winning)
@romuloprieto2529
@romuloprieto2529 3 года назад
That intro is so funny xD
@VlPULTRA
@VlPULTRA Год назад
Very helpful Video I never really cared about all these frame data things :)
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@tuannguyencanh6096
@tuannguyencanh6096 3 года назад
Very informative stuff. Easy subscribe man I hope you also do a combo video combo on Kotal Kahn soon as i want to learn him. Your videos taught me Sub Zero and Scorpion well
@-ziiin-
@-ziiin- 2 года назад
Jade-Main and I can already tell that she's a slow poke after the explanation at 02:10
@TomTheEGamer575
@TomTheEGamer575 3 года назад
Lol great video I was wondering why when I do a certain attack I was not able to do another one which gave the other person time to attack back.
@psi_Jaidyn
@psi_Jaidyn 3 года назад
Me not understanding single thing but enjoying the video
@musahyussif3068
@musahyussif3068 2 года назад
This is my first time watching but I love this video
@tyroneegure6155
@tyroneegure6155 3 года назад
Thanks for all these vids But please could you add that controller at the top? It helps wit the timing
@ayeitsmeangel9875
@ayeitsmeangel9875 3 года назад
Bro keep doing these they are so entertaining 😎ima subscribe
@alecfriar7060
@alecfriar7060 10 месяцев назад
I’ll just hit triangle 4 times in a row works most of the time lol
@hazeldown8645
@hazeldown8645 4 месяца назад
Nice dude thanks for this
@thotho2209
@thotho2209 3 года назад
You make me a good play thank you very much, I really appreciated
@jeremyhayes6585
@jeremyhayes6585 3 года назад
Yep you said this involves math. Ight imma head out! 😂😂😂
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Aha I knew it! You are one of those 👀 jk.
@comicslayer9394
@comicslayer9394 3 года назад
Your back lets Gooo
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Lets goo!!!
@mrsleepy3395
@mrsleepy3395 3 года назад
Love your videos mate
@633frost
@633frost 3 года назад
This is really helpful, thanks!
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@k1NGMcFather
@k1NGMcFather 3 года назад
how did you get that liu kang skin
@ghostsauce1443
@ghostsauce1443 Год назад
You caught me right when I was about to leave 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Gameup2332
@Gameup2332 3 года назад
why when i try to do a special at the end of a combo it does not come out or miss when it does come out
@EcksDeeSlayer11
@EcksDeeSlayer11 3 года назад
whats the intro song?
@koolduck_2498
@koolduck_2498 3 года назад
Me who already know this : interesting
@sittthugyii6514
@sittthugyii6514 3 года назад
Thank you for this video.
@detlef171
@detlef171 2 года назад
Dawg im dyin
@batboythecool
@batboythecool 3 года назад
Who knew I was doing math the whole time 👀
@golden.5013
@golden.5013 6 месяцев назад
actual not bad at explaining why cant u be my math teacher?
@einstein9063
@einstein9063 3 года назад
I feel so good, I liked the video before he told me too I'm soooo cool now😎
@nicowenis777
@nicowenis777 3 года назад
great vid thank you
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
thanks for watching
@ericknavarro2985
@ericknavarro2985 3 года назад
Nice!
@kaungkhant3760
@kaungkhant3760 2 года назад
You are the best
@forkp5363
@forkp5363 11 месяцев назад
thanks
@fgcbird
@fgcbird 2 года назад
If anyone sees this and understands frame data I would love some clarification. If someone has a jab that is 7 frames of start up, but is plus 9 on hit, why can you not just jab infinitely on hit? If you are +9 and jab has 7 frames start up, if you jab again the hit box should come out again 2 frames before the opponent can block right? So in the corner why can't you just hit jab jab jab jab etc on hit? (this may not be the frame data of a jab and if that is why this doesn't work please let me know. I am very new to this so I want to make sure I understand this fundamentally) edit: looking at the framedata I think maybe that is it? Fast startup moves can't have more hit advantage than their startup otherwise you could just chain them on hit?
@TheRealTact
@TheRealTact 2 года назад
Because recovery frames
@trulybeastly2636
@trulybeastly2636 3 года назад
Awesome vid
@MrKgray12
@MrKgray12 2 года назад
Really helped thanks
@tempgang6594
@tempgang6594 3 года назад
Do a mileena kombo video
@neoconnor4395
@neoconnor4395 5 месяцев назад
I may be incredibly ignorant in suggesting this - but I feel in general, learning frame date is a waste of your time (but yes, I'm still in pursuit of understanding the concept).. Yes, it only helps if you're competing at high levels, but you can still get very far - certainly far enough as a casual, by just learning the game via trial and error. I'm beginning to pressure myself into learning and understanding frame data, and I'm having a rough time because at the end of the day, I probably don't NEED to be spending the amount of time I already spend playing these fighting games, and I've done quite well at MK1 and Tekken 8 without any knowledge of frame data whatsoever. I've landed on the leaderboards and in MK1 in particular I always ride the line between God and Eldergod (the 1st and 2nd best ranks), and I want to get better! So I look to frame data and I'm like yeah, okay, but this is the difference between having something I already know from experience being explained to me in technical terms, and learning these things via experience playing the game for hundreds of hours. Of course, knowing frame data never hurts, but is watching videos like this really going to help the casual player more than actually playing the game? I feel like this is something you could use when playing professionally, but in order for it to be truly useful you'd already have to be invested in the game to nearly unhealthy levels. I know from experience, because here I am trying to learn this stuff, but it also leaves me scratching my head, with the knowledge I will still beat the vast majority of people who watch videos like this, simply from having played the game more. Then games like SF6 come along, almost suggesting people re-learn these concepts and at that point every game makes it's own rules, and is it really practical for casual players to sit down with a pen and paper to learn all this? My guess is no. This knowledge will only be put to use by the top 1% of players. Everyone else would be better off simply playing the game. Maybe I'm just frustrated trying to grasp these concepts, but I could also just watch videos on RU-vid that SHOW me when to punish certain characters after certain moves, without knowing the numbers for everything. So is frame data today, with what we can learn from actually watching RU-vid tutorials, still relevant? And it might be! But I'm trying to understand why..
@azo0oz9900
@azo0oz9900 2 года назад
Finally understood the must important thing in fighting games after years 😭
@beayns9694
@beayns9694 3 года назад
I don't get it
@heretickishyt
@heretickishyt 3 года назад
Why can't the jabs be of unversal frame for every character
@FrostshadowStudios0310
@FrostshadowStudios0310 2 года назад
Because some guys pack more power than others.
@hourblood2974
@hourblood2974 Год назад
300 hours later, am here at this video 🤡
@punyajeetdas2514
@punyajeetdas2514 5 месяцев назад
What if block advantage is 0
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 5 месяцев назад
Then no one has the advantage. It’s now to who ever has the fastest attack can win
@Makhai808
@Makhai808 Год назад
What is cancel advantage
@Mitchcraft.
@Mitchcraft. 3 года назад
Omg a 90min advert , wtf is going on with youtube lately, scam ads and now a full bloody movie on religion 🤯 get it fixed youtube
@mauricerobinson3184
@mauricerobinson3184 3 года назад
👍🏿
@Hunterslammer
@Hunterslammer 3 года назад
Anything on countering? I somehow countered a hit and used a wake up while standing up. Used a bar of defense too and looked like I gained armor. Unsure how I did it but I’ve seen someone do it with frost in a ko op match. Just wondering if anyone knows more. Also did it once while going into a combo, and special cancelled it into an environment interact. All on accident.
@Duck-xy3gx
@Duck-xy3gx 3 года назад
that was a flawless block go watch his video on that topic
@Ok-fq4fd
@Ok-fq4fd 2 года назад
I dont learn frame data becaude there's something called lag
@stephenjennings555
@stephenjennings555 3 года назад
In all honesty, you kinda learn frame data just by playing
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
That’s the longer road , but yes
@tron0150
@tron0150 2 года назад
So framedata turns fighting games in turn based games that just go quick. Thats kinda lame. At least in some games there are 0 frames options, so it's not that bad.
@DEADMANPLAYS
@DEADMANPLAYS 3 года назад
I can't fucking say how happy i am to hear your voice man! how you doing ?? I hope you're doing goood take care of yourself buddy
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
I really appreciate this. Thank you. I’m doing fine now, real life stuff are in the way sometimes. Glad to be back
@justsomeguywithoutamask9602
@justsomeguywithoutamask9602 3 года назад
Yes!!! i've been waiting for this Now i'm going to watch this video 69420 times
@MrImasta
@MrImasta 3 года назад
Yeah me too!🤣✌
@NameLess-sg5xe
@NameLess-sg5xe 2 года назад
whats the background music?
@ricemonsta25
@ricemonsta25 3 года назад
Me still waiting for the full Rambo guide
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Not going to lie, it’s been so hard wanting to make step by step. Been doing it for 2 years lol
@ricemonsta25
@ricemonsta25 3 года назад
@@MadDoggGames Ik man I’m just joking with ya. Make the content you wanna make😁😁😁
@thenightwolf1997
@thenightwolf1997 3 года назад
Maddogg first off I wanna thanks you for helping me learn my favorite mk11 characters. I'd like to request a shao Kahn step by step guide. Hope you able to get to it. Keep up the good work
@TheNightmareAngelYT
@TheNightmareAngelYT 10 месяцев назад
I love the intro. And thanks for helping me learning about this frame data stuff. When I was reading it on the tutorials, it just seemed like words on a screen. This makes more sense now. And if this applies to all fighting games, then that's a bonus. Thanks.
@savages-on-deck
@savages-on-deck Год назад
Shit didn’t really make sense tbh and none of this is gonna help me do combos so what’s truly the point in any of it
@miller_koth
@miller_koth Год назад
Thank you so much for making this video! I've been a fighting game fan ever since I first played Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, and while I've never been a button masher, I've never truly understood the mechanics of what I was doing. Now I finally get it and can use it to my advantage! Thank you!
@JCUBrilliant
@JCUBrilliant 3 года назад
0:00 Video Preveiw 0:45 Video Intro 1:38 What is Frame Data? 2:05 Start-up Frames 2:53 Active Frames 3:38 Recovery Frames 4:10 Consequences 4:39 Block Advantage 6:07 Hit Advantage 7:43 Frame Trap 8:20 Flawless Block Advantage 9:03 Reading Frame Data 10:52 Video Outro
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
this helped alot. Thank you
@JCUBrilliant
@JCUBrilliant 3 года назад
@@MadDoggGames you are welcome
@Yashtcm
@Yashtcm Месяц назад
Awesome guide, ty
@sergiu2021
@sergiu2021 Год назад
The text on 4:40 is confusing. Less than -7 is -8, -9 and so forth, greater than -7 is -6, -5, -4 and going up.
@darkkarter3321
@darkkarter3321 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the Frame data content men
@carlmahome1
@carlmahome1 3 года назад
Smh I just want to play the game 🥺
@iiTzRamon
@iiTzRamon 3 года назад
Can you show a tips and tricks combos video with raiden? I‘ve been watching but apparently you haven‘t done any of raiden or have i missed something?
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
I’ve already uploaded one for him now
@iiTzRamon
@iiTzRamon 3 года назад
@@MadDoggGames a ok,i see thank you
@iiTzRamon
@iiTzRamon 3 года назад
haha i love this intro.😂😂👍
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Glad you liked it! 🤣
@VSSgamerX
@VSSgamerX 3 года назад
Thanks bro
@bigzealot
@bigzealot 2 года назад
Still cannot believe you have to pay for frame data in tekken 7
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 2 года назад
Me either. One of the things that put me off when I bought the base game of Tekken 7.
@MiniNinjaPK
@MiniNinjaPK 3 года назад
Nice video and excellent points! The way of conveying them is also beautiful.
@sujeewanarulselvan1316
@sujeewanarulselvan1316 2 года назад
Bro i have unlocked 6 Brutalities for spawn with character tower and race against time brutal difficulty. But after that i cannot unlock anymore using those two. PLZ help me to unlock other 4
@ImarBenIsrael
@ImarBenIsrael 3 года назад
I feel like this video I'm about to watch own important to a casual like me but should also be sent to nrs devs so they know too because their game go against why frame data is important from my point of view
@a.a.2752
@a.a.2752 2 года назад
i won't lie you lost me towards the end but at least i can now understand the terminology everyone seems to use around the fanbase :')
@thotho2209
@thotho2209 3 года назад
I loved the section when you said less brainpower hahaha
@OpuppetS
@OpuppetS 3 года назад
i made a combo for kung lao that can completely wipe the opponents health
@mustafaalsaleh6288
@mustafaalsaleh6288 3 года назад
Yo yo I'm joking always got me off guard man 😂
@marcclay9125
@marcclay9125 Год назад
Awesome video man thank you
@jacktheBEAR-py8jp
@jacktheBEAR-py8jp 3 года назад
Can you make a combo guide for shao khan plz?
@venuskratos6311
@venuskratos6311 3 года назад
Oh my God nice intro haha 😂 😂 😂
@AJKingOD
@AJKingOD 3 года назад
Haven’t watched the video yet, but based on the intro...I agree
@tendiboi912
@tendiboi912 3 года назад
lol
@GhettoManAF
@GhettoManAF 3 года назад
great video..
@tomacheteful
@tomacheteful 11 месяцев назад
Best explanation ive heard yet. Very well done. Thank you!
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 11 месяцев назад
You're very welcome!
@MrImasta
@MrImasta 3 года назад
Awesome video Maddogg!🔥🐐🌟
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed
@kombatant648
@kombatant648 3 года назад
so out-framing your opponent is the key?
@MadDoggGames
@MadDoggGames 3 года назад
Ultimately yes. The whole point in fighting games and in real life is to attack and not be getting hurt. And the easiest way to do that is knowing frame data to keep you safe.
@donut2111
@donut2111 3 года назад
No because if your opponent knows you're frame trapping them they can just block everything instead. At which point you might realize that if your opponent is gonna block you can just grab them which they aren't expecting. Except once they do start to expect the grab they'll mash on you or try to punish. Mind games all the way down
@danielalejandromirandasanc8826
@danielalejandromirandasanc8826 3 года назад
Hi, im a sheeva stomp player👍 nice video
@user-zg8mr9rp9o
@user-zg8mr9rp9o 3 года назад
Eat poop
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