The Original Arthur - Red Dead Cut Content 

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They should’ve have used the “Vengeful Arthur” lines for low honor.

It's easy to feel sad about cut content, but just remember how much they gave us

From the way John described his time in the gang in RDR1, this version of Arthur would've definitely been more fitting, but I'm still happy with the way they wrote him in the end.

This angry Arthur would have one-punched Micah and killed him. JEEZ

I wish they kept the vengeful voice lines for low honor Arthur

A good arc with this vengeful arthur is realizing he’s no better than Micah or Dutch, making his redemption more impactful

I'm relieved that this was cut because this game is already heart breaking as hell without arthur's newborn dying at beginning

I think vengeful Arthur is cool in theory, I think a big problem you see with this is people go “oh this would have been so awesome cause of how I have imagined it in my head.” This also would have to completely overhaul a lot of the side mission, I just don’t see this much colder Arthur helping a guy take animal pictures, looking for Dino bones, or rock carvings immediately after coming down the mountain

“Tell me exactly where… or I’ll smash your head clean open” words can’t describe how cold and frightening that line is. Roger Clark is a goated voice actor 🔥

4:17 THAT IS ONE HUGE BABY, HOLY MOLY

That "i'm sending you to hell' was scary af

4:53 Just a heads-up, but this is not Eliza in the screenshot. It's a different cut character discovered in the files as 'Leon's niece' who would've been part of the larger Guarma storyline. The Leon in question is one of the rebels we save from hanging in 'Savaegry Unleashed'.

'Vengeful Arthur' genuinely resonated with me and seems like it could've been a powerful character arc in its own right. A bitter outlaw lashing out at the world for losing his son in a way so far out of his control and goes on a dark path for most of the story. Until he's forced to confront his death and makes peace with it, seeing that vengeance has only left him hollow. That and his imminent mortality, makes him dedicate his last days to helping others, ending grudges (John), and getting his friends out of Dutch's own vengeful mission so they can have a life where's his was wasted. A darker Arthur definitely had the capacity for a redemption story imo. IDK, if it would've been better, but I think it could've potentially been more complex and maybe not as palatable. Not that the current Arthur isn't complex or has flaws, but he feels too put together and likable. His biggest sins mainly come out of the circumstances he's in, where's this Arthur would've had deeper, more personal failures to reflect on. Which is why I feel they leant a little to hard on the movie cowboy with a heart of gold is my and this is even reflected in his design. I also think it would've made for better low honor runs while also working for a high honor playthrough.

Isaac and jack would have to get revenge together if Isaac wasn’t cut dead.

I feel like this version would fit more with the redemption story. A lot of people agree that current arthur wasnt a complete bad person from the start and had some kindness in him but i feel if we had the original, he wouldn't have such good in his heart and it would make the ending more powerful and compelling, it would show how even the worst of men could change for the good even if its a slight change.

also the original arthur is tall and big, peoples describes him as a mountain man

I honestly like the current game Arthur more than the original one. Original one is cold and very aggressive but I feel like the original one would be just straight up nothing but bland and boring. He doesn’t have the pretty boy look I prefer too. So glad we got the current game one

That opening trailer is *THE* hardest edit I've ever seen, nothing else compares.

Never thought I'd see an acoustic cover of a song about the Vietnam War used for a western game... but it actually fits

"YOU'RE A DEAD MAAN" That line is just perfection, rage incarnate.

i argue that having this in the game would make arthurs final sacrifice of saving john and his family that much more meaningful since we (the player) will literally witness arthur lose his own family on-screen

Now this..THIS is a very well done video good sir! Accurate yet emotional, awesome dude!!

Arthur og voice sounds badass and scary at the same time keep those videos coming you got a sub

6:01 that gun fire transition was clean

That intro has such beautiful cinematography! The panning shots, the close ups and actions shots, so good! And the music fit the theme very very well! Really makes you feel like the gang is this ominous dark presence that people fear.

Paint it, black, is such a perfect song for Arthur. He lost his family and now, all he has left to live for is the van Der Linde gang

Love it! Thank you! 🙏 great deep dive into characters

would have been better like this, there would be a starker contrast from the beggining to the end(if you change Arthur's personality with your choices), and he could start at minimum honor(maximum dishonor)so it's harder to build up the meter unlike the final game where we start at Neutral.

Really enjoyed hearing that music from Mafia 3 :) thank you for that, its like two different worlds come together for a moment (well in my mind anyway) and great info here.

Saved to watch later. Thanks for the content!

The Original Arthur Is Cold Amazing Video

I would have liked to have seen the angrier and more violent Arthur as it would have given him something more substantial to redeem from and it would explain away certain interactions with people in the world and how they view him such as the O'Driscolls fearing him and labelling him "Van Der Linde's Bruiser" and even Jimmy Brooks being absolutely terrified of Arthur. Also the way certain gang members are stand offish with Arthur at times for example when Grimshaw thanks Arthur for helping save Tilly she gives him a backhanded compliment about being good but only sometimes. To add it would coincide better with the way the narrative progresses and it definitely shows that this was the original plan for Arthur's characterisation.

paint it black 😵 guitar hero nostalgia

I think it would have been great to have a more dark Arthur at the start of the game then see him slowly change his way through the game and accepting what happened to his child all of that anger and hate it would have been pretty cool i like the Arthur we got but he wasn't that bad he did beat up that guy that gave him tb but i feel like he wasn't that bad

I like to think that original Arthur is the myth of Arthur Morgan from people who knew of him, while the Arthur we got was the real one

My god your editing skill is beyond this world

what a badass fucking intro killer job

I think it would've been better if Arthur is much colder and have that appearance. Imagine playing a devilish character that is haunted by the death of his son, dismantling everyone in his path and couldn't get a goodnights rest from dresming about wolves or his family. I think the redemption would be unforeseen or drastic in that regard. It's like playing as Micah where you feel he is hopeless and wouldn't change and then in a blink of an eye he slowly coming in to terms with the death of his family, accepting that fact, and the fact that his days with TB is coming to an end resl soon.

The Cut version of Arthur implies the Arthur Morgan we got is uncircumcised

Lovely mate, now I have something to watch on my way from TAFE

is nobody gonna talk about how dope the opening part of the video was

Man will forever be impressed by your video editing skills Hat-off 🎩

how is barely anyone talking about that opening sequence?? THAT WENT HARD AF

The most I'd like to play is Arthur's Beta Model. He looked so more natural, not like some playgirl model

Dude that intro went so hard. GGs my man.

lets just imagine Arthur's redemption to high honor ending with the events of this cut content. imagine the journey he will go through as a character from cold and vengeful to caring for others. I would love it if Rockstar makes this a little DLC or makes a second version of the game like this. they already got some of this content, I feel like it would make the redemption of Arthur feel more satisfying at the end, like you actually committed your time to making Arthur a good guy

i absolutely loved the editing man! grrat showcase of rdr2's beauty

What a beautiful video, especially that ending. So sad yet so relaxed

Red Dead is already crazy… but you know how much crazier it would be if they didn’t cut all this content.

this video has crazy good editing bro, wonderful video

Actually I love that game gets darker as we play and pass chapters. Hanging out with gang and exploring the world without any sadness on first chapters is a beautiful starting point for the game.

Amazing line from Dan Houser

6:06 this line makes me want to see this vengeful arthur

Just want to say that the first 1:15 with Paint it Black was amazing. I replayed that a bunch of times. It fits so perfectly together.

I can't lie, I would like to see this version of Arthur in the original game, however, fitting him in there would be a very difficult job. We must stop analyzing things based on our own tastes; in general, Vengeful Arthur would make people not have as much empathy with him, causing less attachment. His redemption marked by his death would be technically more impactful, but in practice it wouldn't shake us as much because we don't have as much attachment to him due to the lack of empathy that his cold version would cause. That's probably what the developers thought, deciding to change the trajectory of the story. Of course, we can think that this would fit very well in the low honor version, also making a much bigger difference between high honor and low honor playthrough - something very interesting. In practice this would not be possible. Why? We must remember that in the beta version it was planned that Guarma (formerly Guama) would basically be another game; there would be a giant map, saloons, shops, explorable areas, collectibles, etc., but in the end we only received a micro-island with a linear story made up of half a dozen missions. The game's epilogue would also basically be RDR1 Remake, being extremely faithful in several aspects to the first game, but we also received just that rubbish, where the only good thing was actually the story. Doing this kind of thing is extremely complicated, costs a lot of time and money, and is not always possible. Furthermore, no other game came close to what RDR2 did, even with so much content cut it is still the best game in the history of video games. In short, we're lucky to get what we got, even though it's cool to explore the cut content and feel sad imagining everything we could have gotten more.

i never thought id be more scared of a video game character than i am after hearing those pieces of dialogue, just sent chills down my spine, i see why they cut that out

I think if they ever made rdr3 as a prequel to rdr2 it should be about the events right after the death of his son and where we get to see this much colder and brutal Arthur get revenge and try to accept the death of his son and somehow move on

Pretty cool cut content ngl appreciate this! 💯

Loved the intro!

Arthur’s son cut content makes a lot of sense considering the game does start with a death but it’s Davey instead of Isaac

It would make more sense to arthur incentives john to be a good father for jack

This is truly one of the best videos ive ever seen

I wish the lower honor that you have as Arthur affects what lines of dialogue would be used

One of my favorite details in rdr2 is during the cornwall confrontation in valentine, the reflection in arthurs eyes make it look like his eyes light up like the eyes of a predator at night.

Think how many secrets Red Dead redemption 1 has that we will never know.... due to it coming out in 2010

Those voice lines would've been so good in a similar context to what they wanted to do. Especially since in chapter two arthur gets a rep in valentine for being a trouble maker anyways. Plus this would pair very well with the camp convos with molly and Tilly where arthur vents about hurting innocent people. Would have been great

damn bro only intro deserves at least 100000 views… incredible work!

That intro was so rad bro, keep up the good work

He probably wouldn’t have tuberculosis because Strauss would think he would kill Thomas and Strauss even said don’t kill anybody

The intro feels like an intro for a Red Dead HBO show

I feel like we should of had 7 chapters with ch1 being a tutorial in new austin and the end of ch1 being the Blackwater Massicar and then ch2 being the snow and so on

As compelling as I think Isaac freezing to death at the beginning is, it would’ve made Arthur a very bitter and somber character all the way through the story, right from the start. This would hugely detract from the best aspects of his character and the pivotal personality traits that push his redemption arch.

This video a masterpiece

I do still like that they ultimately went with a more mature arthur. Really makes it believable that hes not just any outlaw in the gang like bill or micah but hes closer to hosea and dutch and a decision maker. Which is why the other people towards the end start listening to arthur as he tells them to leave. Idk how well redemption would work if arthur was just ruthless and crazy

Original Arthur wouldn't let Micah slide

That intro was fire

What if in the final version Issac would have been killed by the Odriscolls and Arthur could go on a few revenge missions.

Oh wow! This would have been a vastly different feeling game if it kicked off like that. Honestly as great as the story arc is, I think this might have driven home the “redemption” aspect in a really interesting way. Having him being such a vengeful trainwreck at the start. It would give low honor play-throughs more fuel for the fire and give high honor play-throughs some real palpable feeling of Arthur having redeemed himself by the end. Really interesting to imagine how different that game would be! Great edits btw!

First John felt like they watered him down, now I learn Arthur was meant to be more serious? Man this sucks...

I forgot that Roger Clark is Irish, his natural accent always surprises me every time I hear it lol.

This was the ultra low honor Arthur 💀

Cool video man the editing was top notch you are talented

I’d need to hear what the rest of this hypothetical alternate “Vengeful Arthur” would have been but in concept, it would have been preferable. We’re told a lot that Arthur is supposed to be a mean, ruthless bastard but even in the early chapters, he’s humanised too much and given too many likeable moments for this opinion to really form. It’s why the Strauss missions stand out a lot as Arthur is uncharacteristically cruel to people in those in ways he just wasn’t in other scenes. You like Arthur pretty much from beginning to end when I think the game wants you to feel conflicted over whether he is a good man but the vast majority of players never question that much at all because of how likeable he is. So if he was consistently cruel and violent early on before having something of a Damascene conversion after Guarma, I think you have a much stronger story and a much more obvious redemption arc for him as he begins to stand out from Dutch and co, while they remain no more than the kind of brutish thugs Arthur was at the start.

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Honestly with all the cut content and all, I wouldn’t even want it because red dead 2 story was absolutely perfect. I loved every moment of it

This story makes more sense in relation to Arthur's redemption, and all he did to save Jhon and his family. His baby is gone, but he tried his best to give Marston a chance to have a family life. I wonder how many times Arthur looked at young Jack thinking how his soon would look like.

I probably would have played Arthur as he was originally presented; a vengeful and miserable man. I’m glad this content was cut, otherwise I likely wouldn’t have given him the honorable end he deserved.

Game doesn’t even feel like it has cut content because there’s so much in it😂

Normally, i would get sad over what we could have had, but i love arthur as he is, and I wouldn't want to change it

That voice actor of Dan Houser has a great future ahead of him 👍🏻

i really would’ve loved to see this arthur make the game, dark opening and all. imagine starting with the honor bar all the way in the negative and having to make your way up to high honor. i think that could’ve really expanded arthur’s morality struggle in chapter 6. almost like in spite of the bad life he lived and the terrible loss of his son, he finds hope for himself. imagine the sister calderon interaction with arthur explaining about how horrible he was.

Another thing is there are also voice lines from the New Austin and Blackwater sheriffs suggesting that Arthur could’ve accessed these places. Maybe (in-game) you could’ve gone to both places, only the second the law saw you or you hung around town for too long they would start chasing after you. (Just my theory)

The aggressive lines sent me so many chills. That arthur is even more terrifying than when he goes after micah in the low honor ending..

Very well made👏👏

I want to address Arthur’s cut dialogue. I remember hearing about an ending, where if Arthur has very low honour, he would join Micah or Dutch. I can’t seem to recall the exact details, but I don’t know if it took place at the end of Arthur’s story or the very ending where you kill Micah. Regardless if this ending for Arthur was real and was indeed cut, this could be leftovers from that specific time in development, where this ending was once planned and to be playable. The reason it was supposedly cut was for time. I don’t know if Arthur survives if the player receives this ending or his tuberculosis didn’t exist yet. but I gave up my search. I’m going to assume this was made up though, but hearing this dialogue had brought it to the front of my mind. I thought to bring this up, as most people don’t really know about it, or it was simply made up. Hearing the dark dialogue arthur had said, has made me thought of this for some reason. Like if the player has very low honour, while the game encourages you to have good, the ending where he dies is your punishment, while the good could may be where he lives. I don’t know, but this is just my thoughts.

Vengeful dark brutal Arthur makes sense for the beginning of the game because he's an outlaw, then when he learns that he's sick he changes.

Years later, from 2018, people are still making content off of rdr 2, which just goes to show how great and majestic that game actually was

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ya arthur losing a child at the start would have changed the whole tone