Dragon King Oscurare really? freya just wants her family to be safe from Marcel. Btw if freya wasn't here Elijah would probably be in a coffin right now so stfu
Glad Elijah stopped Freya from saying something not nice to Hayley. I understood both their points of view. Freya was robbed of her family for years and now has them back and Hayley does not believe in the end justifies the means.
We also have to remember that Keelin has or had a life. She was becoming an ER Doctor and yet it’s put on pause because her venom can be used to save The Mikaelsons should they get bitten by Marcel again or if someone gets their hands on his venom
i understand why freya is so determined to keep the wolf hostage. she wants enough venom to ensure her family's safety. im starting to understand now that freya is the one sibling that would go beyond the other mikaelsons (even elijah or klaus) to do what needs to be done no matter how cruel it is. And for her attitude towards hayley, its unjustifiable....i mean, even though she is planning to hold an innocent girl hostage doesn't mean what hayleys saying isn't the truth. i feel that freyas view of the world has been corrupted because of the troubles of her childhood and the current predicament they are in. she feels that no matter how good or pure a person claims to be, they can always be corrupted showing that the world is indeed a bad place
Hayley thinks everything revolves around her. Hayley has done worse for her family. But when Freya does it for her family she's horrible? Hayley thinks she can take anyone on. That's what got her killed.
@@di9403 then maybe hayley should have also been called out for her actions more. Also, what's worse is that freyja is acting a lot like klaus, who elijah compared to her description of dahlia back in season 2
Animal Lover if you were keelin you would want your freedom just as much. it isnt fair to be held against your will for something you have no contol over
I don't think Hayley's first "real instinct" is to be noble, but at least she is trying to change for the better(like Klaus), for her daughter.. Freya hated that her innocence was taken at a young age, yet she thinks it's a "necessary evil" that Hope loses hers. As a way to protect the family? Hope is family, and so is Hayley. Evil breeds evil, I don't think Marcel is the most similar to Klaus from season one. I think that's Freya. She doesn't care what she has to do, even to members of her own family. She believes she knows best, and others who aren't blood aren't as important, but still rightly sacrificial for the good of the family. (Though, I really do think Klaus loves Marcel like a son). Hope's innocence, Kol's true love. I wouldn't hate her attitude so much if she felt a little bit of remorse. To me, it seemed like she couldn't understand what he was so upset about. Then with Hope, saying she can live without her innocence when she hated her mother and aunt for not protecting hers. I don't hate Freya, not after everything she has done for the family. However, to me she's like her mother and her brother Niklaus. She is letting her own fear control her. Which is causing her not to care about the consequences of her actions. Necessary evil, loss of innocence, new problems arise so now repeat. I think if she only does things this way, even to protect her family, she will just end up endangering them as well. I hope she starts to change, I fear how she'll see the other children. As children who need to be protected and saved with Hope, or a necessary sacrifice for her family in this "cruel, cruel world". I do not want to see Freya as that kind of person. As I've already said, I only hate her attitude right now. I don't hate her.
RIGHT! She isn't scared to speak her mind out, I don't know why everyone's so mad at her for trying to keep Keelin captive when Elijah and Klaus literally killed thousands to assure their own family's safety which is way worse than what Freya's doing
@@cherrycherryboomboom7297 with a son named Nik named after Niklaus & he was made by Freya keelin & Vincent two witches & werewolf this kid is gonna have a hell of a temper
honestly what she said that she can't live without her family it really shows in legacies where she won't even talk about her family because of how much it hurts and almost uses landon as a replacement tbh
I don't know why people hating her. She just wants to put her family's safety first. Once marcel attacked them you would all thank her for doing this. I love Freya 'cause she has become the big sister of the siblings that she truly is.
The Mikaelsons all have their own interpretation of "Always and Forever", and this motto require a big price. I think Kaelin is just one of that price, and honestly speaking I feel no pity for killing a wolf to save the whole family.
Hope is a Mikaelson. Sooner or later that innocence will be tarnished. And we all know Hayley is only protecting her because she is a she wolf like her but if she's other race she won't give a shit whatever Freya do to her. Kol and Elijah would have been dead now if without their sister Freya's trick. She is only doing what she knows best for their Family.
Freya just want to prevent trouble of searching last ingredient to the "cure" in case Marcel bit them again. Keelin is the only remaining member of her pack that is why Freya holding her tight.
i think freya might be slightly envious of Hope. she doesn't want to be but she is. hope has all these people around her who love her and want to protect her, where as Freya had none of that. Hope is allowed her innocence she has people protecting her from the big bad world. Freya's siblings lives weren't all that troubled- bar klaus until esther turned them while Freya was stuck with daliah which has made her bitter and jaded. Freya wants to protect the siblings she longed for, she wants to protect them. she can't understand any other way of doing things. there is no right and wrong when it comes to saving her family. to her Hayley releasing the wolf is like a betrayal, which is why she goes to say Hayley isn't one of them.
RIGHT! Freya put everything aside to save them, hell she even sacrificed her friend Davina to save her brothers, not once hesitated to give herself up for their family and they treat her like this? Hayley needs to understand Klaus and Elijah straight-up murdering others to keep themselves safe is so much worse than Freya wanting to keep a girl captive.
They had enough cures and it is sooo childish that Freya's sooo determined to keep that wolf hostage...i know and hate often for how many the mikaelsos have killed but freya has killed before and her murder of davina and torturing this girl was disturbing considering she was put to this fate for a thousand years and she is doing this upon others.
It's interesting that Freya finds it so easy to keep Keelin prisoner. After, centuries of having her life and freedom controlled by Dahlia. All that time kept from her family and having a real life. All because Dahlia wanted to use her power. She seems to find it so easy. I guess the point is we become the people who raise us. I really dislike Freya. You would think she would want to protect Hope's innocence if possible or at least try.
It's funny because Klaus even said that in season 2. No matter how much he hates it, he is the son of Mikael and Freya is proving that deep down, she's not that different from Dahlia.
In that case you must hate the whole Mikaelson family? Rebekah, Kol, Elijah and Klaus killed numerious amount of people, which is way worse than what Freya's doing, just to keep themselves safe, in that case, they're just like Mikael
@@rupantihoque1059 I think the difference between Freya and the rest of the family in this particular scene is while every one of them would kill to protect eachother they don't try to justify it and if they do say its in the name of family it legitimately is. I agree that in the beginning when they first take Keelin to make the cure, that was "normal" for them and in the name of family but at this point in the show Freya has already made many cures. Keeping Keelin captive after creating a substantial amount is just wrong. Also... her being cruel to Hayley just because she isn't getting her way is pretty childish.
@@projectoverchord Being cruel to Hayley to keep her family safe IS reasonable, killing (which the rest of the family does) is way worse than what's Freya's doing
freya and elijah are the reason they were all in that mess in the first place, without hayley they would have died. Hayley is hopes mother and freya had no right to make decisions that can negatively affect hope, if hope saw keelin in the barn she would become traumatized. Everything hayley said was right, freya was out of line.
@@sweetpilly9765 Here's the thing, without Elijah and Freya, Hayley would be dead, killed by Lucien, Freya's decision to keep Keelin active assure their WHOLE family, assures Hope will grow up with a family by her side. Freya was indeed cruel, but she was right, there was NO way a Mikaelson child could grow up innocent, Hope after was way more traumatized by her own father lmao
I'm really starting to hate Freya this season it's like she has this personal vendetta against Marcel knowing that she's part of the reason why he hates the Mikealson's
HadesKing ofdarkness1294. your preaching the gospel my friend. anyone who says different is just a Michaelson lover. in some of the comments people are actually defending her saying just because she also doing it to protect family it's ok. but if they were placed in such a position minds would change real quick
JBaby Lucus when it comes down to it the Mikealson's are just selfish bastards who only look out for themselves if that includes turning a ally into a enemy
She just does to much n is a complete try hard, her excuse for everything is “for family” like stfu it’s getting annoying, she does crazy shit that not even klaus agrees with. Atleast Hayley realized that all the shit they doing “for family” is bad
@@Actuallymel 1 killed Davina 2 tried to keep Kellin hostage even when she had more then enough of the cure 3 tried to put the mikaelson burden on hope when she was like what 7 4 was abt to say that Hayley was not a mikaelson and was abt to say some crazy things 5 would have killed Hayley if she Elijah didn't come in
Girl you barely stood a chance against Esther, what makes you think you stand a chance against Freya who is a firstborn and is more powerful than Esther.. smh she really thought she could beat Rebekah in 3x09 and Freya..
She doesn’t think she can beat them. In 3x9, she had to defend herself from rebekah. She couldn’t just there and wait for rebekah to rip her head off. She is not fighting them, just defending and stalling.
I’m a fan of Bonnie and Freya and I just realized that Freya is more stronger than Bonnie. Bonnie needs ancestors to hurt originals but Freya can easily snap their neck. But maybe because of the racist thing in TVD that’s why her character is look quite mess. I want more for Bonnie
Well it's not that he just chose Hayley. Freya was basically saying that they don't even have to try and grant Hope a somewhat normal Childhood without horrors, simply because she is a Mikaelson and none of them had a normal Childhood without Horror. Elijah spent a 1000 years to get Klaus back into a place of happiness from the suffering he had to endure while growing up, and to redeem him. Now he heard Freya casually contemplating taking that chance away from Hope aswell.
Yes, because Davina was just a 'purpose to serve'. She didn't deserve a happy life, or a peaceful afterlife right? She's just a pawn to play in Freya's book.
She didn't mess with shit, she was brought into it by Marcel, then was manipulated by Klaus where people that she cared about were killed. All she did was fight back from the crap that the Mikaelsons put her through, and consequently killed by them. She died at 18 for god's sake, and even then she wasn't at peace, Freya had to go exile her.
Elaine S i mean ur not wrong about that but even after people stopped manipulating her she still stay to bring back kol which is understandable but she still fucked over the mikaelsons and every one gets there karma and im not saying it as a hater cuz i someone liked davina but that was the only thing freya could do to stop the beast
