The Origins of the Jewish Etrog

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This video explores the origins of the Jewish Etrog and why the Etrog became associated with the fruit of a beautiful tree found in the Bible. We explore when the Etrog was know in the land of Israel from an archaeological perspective, as well as its original habitat.
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English: Enthroned King of Ur
Date 14 April 2019
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Description Apadana Hall, 5th century BC carving of Persian and Median soldiers in traditional costume (Medians are wearing rounded hats and boots)
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Author Arad
Description English: Hala Sultan Tekke Mosque at the Salt Lake in Larnaca, Cyprus
Русский: Мечеть Хала Султан Текке около Солёного озера в Ларнаке, Кипр
Українська: Мечеть Хала Султан Текке біля Солоного озера в Ларнаці, Кіпр
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Description Deutsch: Einblick in eine Talmud-Seite (Detail)
Date 2 January 2007
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Description English: Maimonides Commentary on the Mishnah
Autograph manuscript on paper
Egypt, 12th century
Presented at the National Library in Givat Ram, Jerusalem
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מוצג בספריה הלאומית בגבעת רם, ירושלים
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Description English: The four-species market in Sukkot - Bnei Brak
עברית: שוק ארבעת המינים בסוכות - בני ברק
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Date 18 September 2013
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Description View of different types of sechach (sukkah roofs).
Date October 2007
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@TheReverendJones-lv5bz 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing this, I’m not Jewish but came across this fruit and was curious as I have heard of it before but not aware of it’s symbolism in Jewish religion, Shalom!

@Emotionalsavage281 3 месяца назад

I have already exposed that expensive non-lemon 🤓 ☝️

@ephy1973 3 месяца назад

3 hadassim NOT 2

@miki09876 2 года назад

Fascinating video. Seems like a uniquely Jewish custom

@PlainsPup Год назад

I had no idea the citron (etrog) was not native to the Levant!

@yossikenner882 Год назад

What about the absence of the Etrog from Nehemiah 8:15? The text imports olives instead. And how about 2 Maccabees 10:7 where the Etrog is missing as well? It seems like the evidence of Etrogs being in the Levant was actually very rare, and that it would be inaccessible for most people, whereas the olives would be, and as seen in Hosea 14:7 where it is called Hod, or splendor.

@JoeBack Год назад

Hi, Thanks for your comment. The text in Nehemiah 8:15 is dealing with the construction of actual sukkot not the taking of the four species as a separate mitzvah we know today. In fact, this verse is the subject of debate in the later rabbinic sources (TB Sukkah 12a-b) as to what materials can be used to construct the roof and walls of the sukkah. As for 2nd Maccabees: I don't think this could be used to refute a rabbinic tradition especially as it is referring to Chanukah and not specifically Sukkot. It was written in Greek by an Alexandrian Jew, who was copying from an earlier 5 volume set by Jason of Cyrene at the earliest 10 years after the Chanukah story, but could have been written as late as 70 BCE. In a number of places 2nd Mac. contradicts the original book of Maccabees (which is generally agreed upon as having being written as an eye witness testimony.) In the meantime, we have the writings of Josephus mentioning the story of Alexander Janneus being pelted by Etrogs when he failed to do the water libation properly during that same time Antiquities Ch13:5.

@yossikenner882 Год назад

@@JoeBack You're welcome for your response. True, the verse in Nehemiah is talking about putting many of the four species as the roof of the sukkah, which is very similar to what the Samaritans and many Karaites do. 2 Maccabees is later than 1 Maccabees, yet we all know it is earlier than Josephus who lived during the end of the first century CE. One can also dismiss the claims of 2 Maccabees as being a special holiday celebration on Chanukah and thus it lacked the Etrog. However, despite all that, the very idea of the Etrog not being native to Israel during the 1st temple period makes it difficult to imagine the rabbinic tradition went back all the way to Moses. These sources give us a small glimpse, yet it seems a more probable explanation would be the Etrog slowly gained popularity until it became dogmatic custom that only the Etrog is allowed.

@JoeBack Год назад

@@yossikenner882 I do appreciate what you are saying about the existence of the Etrog in the first Temple period and back. Beyond the circumstantial evidence mentioned in the video, we have no evidence for Etrog in the land of Israel earlier than the 5th century BCE. (Parenthetically speaking, if indeed the Etrog pollen from the archaeological dig at Ramat Rachel is from the 5th century BCE, the Etrog would be contemporary with the arrival of Nehemiah in Israel in 444 BCE). That said, I am loathe to say something didn't exist or doubt a claim ( in this case that the Etrog originated from Moses). There have been too many archaeological discoveries that prove naysayers wrong. Currently thinking of the idea that nomads could not have a complex kingdom. This was consensus until about 10 years ago. Today it has been debunked by findings in southern Israel and Jordan. It could be that Jewish tradition is wrong, but I am will to consider it true until it can be proven false.

@yossikenner882 Год назад

@@JoeBack Yes I understand the absence of evidence is not necessary evidence of absence. But on the flip side, we need to evaluate the evidence we do have, not the evidence we don't have. There are times I have more sympathy for example, the question of the domestication of camels and Abraham owning camels. The lack of widespread domestic camels doesn't mean that a few individuals are incapable of owning camels, especially if they come from outside the Levant. I would also point out, that I have used an Etrog this year as well for the four species, and not an olive branch.

@ephy1973 3 месяца назад

8. 15? That is talking about the Succah